The Hollywood sexual harassment thread. Here, "horny" stands for "hands off right now, you!"

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Mods can delete this if it's wrong to have it for whatever reason.

But there's been so much shit popping up in the wake of Harvey Weinstein that I felt it needed its own thread for news stories and discussion. Harassment stories are coming out left and right, not just for Harvey, but for other Hollywood people too.

So, to start off, here's the article that kicked off the whole firestorm. Long read, so the gist is just that it lists girls Harvey harassed and says he paid them off.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/18/business/harvey-weinstein.html

Here's a more recent article that details what's happened with Harvey since then. Listing all the individual articles with harassment claims would have been too much.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/18/business/harvey-weinstein.html

Like I implied, this has had a snowball effect.

Amazon executive Roy Price was put on "leave" and then resigned after a female showrunner told Amazon about harassment she endured from him. She told Amazon a while back, but they're just now doing something about it in the wake of Harvey.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/media/roy-price-amazon-resigned/index.html

The kid from "Stranger Things" dropped a talent agency when his agent through that agency had several sexual harassment claims levied towards him.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-blaise-godbe-lipman-assault207102019-story.html

There's probably tons of shit I haven't even mentioned. I was hoping you guys could fill that in and talk.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,273
    edited October 21
    Fuck Hollywood. Weinstein's behaviour was apparently an open secret. But, the stupid whores put up with it to make it big.

    Yes, they're whores. I wouldn't be saying that if they had spoken out en masse - they'd have my sympathy if that were so.

    They're the most famous people in the United States, if not amongst the world. If someone needed to lose their career to expose him, so be it - they're the victims, it's their fight.
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  • WellmanWellman Joined: Posts: 3,995
    The fact is probably several women did come forward with the claims before but no one cared. Much like with Cosby this is only blowing up due social media , evidence due Weinstein's stupidity and Weinstein being in a weaker tier of power players then he was a couple years ago.

    Time will tell if this doesn't cycle through The industry for a few years before perverts in power and those that would purposely sell themselves anyway don't wind reviving this culture underground.
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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,569
    Cosby was probably another massive open secret, like he be drinking with his boys boasting about the co workers he was fukkin then 10 drinks later he was revealing how to defeat 'hard to get' tactics.

    Like I dunno if this is even thread worthy a topic cause it should just be a blanket given, wanna be rich and famous? Gonna need to take the dick. Except for Cosby ofcourse hes just a mad fuckin rapist. Gotta draw the line between starlets getting the couch and co workers getting the shaft.
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  • a15kkoa15kko Joined: Posts: 5,825
    I like how Harvey ain’t say shit about those 40ish white women claiming he did something but Lupita does it and he’s quick to defend himself. Fucking trash
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,465
    edited October 21
    Wasted wrote: »
    Fuck Hollywood. Weinstein's behaviour was apparently an open secret. But, the stupid whores put up with it to make it big.

    Yes, they're whores. I wouldn't be saying that if they had spoken out en masse - they'd have my sympathy if that were so.

    They're the most famous people in the United States, if not amongst the world. If someone needed to lose their career to expose him, so be it - they're the victims, it's their fight.

    What? A lot of them probably weren't as famous when he harassed them and were likely told they'd never have a career if they didn't "play ball." This guy was powerful enough to ruin careers and I can't even imagine what it would be like to be forced with the choice of either blowing the whistle on one of the most powerful men in the industry or having a career. It's a choice no one should have to make but people deal with it in different ways. Whistleblowing isn't easy, if it was, everyone would do it.
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  • BullDancerBullDancer Mentos, The Freshmaker Joined: Posts: 9,450
    DoctaMario wrote: »
    Wasted wrote: »
    Fuck Hollywood. Weinstein's behaviour was apparently an open secret. But, the stupid whores put up with it to make it big.

    Yes, they're whores. I wouldn't be saying that if they had spoken out en masse - they'd have my sympathy if that were so.

    They're the most famous people in the United States, if not amongst the world. If someone needed to lose their career to expose him, so be it - they're the victims, it's their fight.

    What? A lot of them probably weren't as famous when he harassed them and were likely told they'd never have a career if they didn't "play ball." This guy was powerful enough to ruin careers and I can't even imagine what it would be like to be forced with the choice of either blowing the whistle on one of the most powerful men in the industry or having a career. It's a choice no one should have to make but people deal with it in different ways.

    By sucking Mr. Weinstein off, and being an opportunistic parasite? I'm so glad those type of women didn't have to find other employment, because I'm not down with working with people who will "do whatever it takes".

    Yes, it's a choice no one should have to make, but my thing is, that rape is not a choice. And if being raped is not a choice, then these women weren't raped like they claim. And technically I guess all of these broads were whistle blowers. Just not the good kind.
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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,423
    If you gotta suck a nigga's dick to get in showbiz, change careers or find another route.

    Never understood the difficulty in that. . .
  • ReirakuReiraku Joined: Posts: 863
    One person in that Reddit thread said Kotaku is going to break the story. If they do, I'm going to laugh my ass off.
  • axeman61axeman61 My Baby Blue. Joined: Posts: 4,791
    Yeah; my spine went cold when I read about that dude. He was exploiting all those little girls for years.
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  • StockyJamStockyJam My nigga Networkingyuppy Joined: Posts: 5,743
    a15kko wrote: »
    I like how Harvey ain’t say shit about those 40ish white women claiming he did something but Lupita does it and he’s quick to defend himself. Fucking trash
    wait wait...
    Lupita got touched by this Hut?!?!
    he must die now.
  • StockyJamStockyJam My nigga Networkingyuppy Joined: Posts: 5,743
    edited October 22
    Weeaboo wrote: »
    If you gotta suck a nigga's dick to get in showbiz, change careers or find another route.

    Never understood the difficulty in that. . .

    i think youre simplifying.
    you gotta understand just how hard it is to get your foot through the door.
    showbiz isnt about how talented you are. how skilled you are at your craft.
    its about who you know.
    i'll give you a perfect example of what i mean.

    this fat fuck.....
    and im not saying he isnt talented...
    but this fat fuck was best friends with Dustin Hoffman's son.....and he and Hoffman's son would make prank phone calls and Hoffman would walk in the room and lol at his stupid shit.
    next thing he knows Dustin Hoffman invites him to read for part in a movie.
    boom.
    he's in the door, in A list movies, and making millions.

    there are dudes, who spent years in acting classes, went to school majoring in theater, working odd jobs to pay bills while they try their hardest to make a name for themselves in off off broadway plays...
    who are true, dedicated thespians who sincerely believe that acting is an art form and consider themselves the utmost practitioners of their craft...
    who will never ever ever find themselves even in a 30 second commercial let alone a full length film.

    and this fat fuck gets in the door for amusing Dustin Hoffman with stupid unfunny prank phone calls in his house.

    thats Hollywood.
    thats life.
    in that particular art form(theater/acting) its 90% luck and 10% talent. unlike other art forms like fine arts, music, and writing where your talent actually has a direct consequence on how far you get in life.

    if life gave you these two choices:
    A)suck Weinstein's dick and get a movie deal, get millions of dollars, and be set for life
    or
    B)continue doing it the honest way, keep busting tables as a waiter all day long so you can act in a way off off off off broadway dingy theater, getting paid shit not only as a waiter but as an actor too, for 10 to 15 straight years after taking a million acting classes and having graduated college with a diploma in theater/thespian. only to have to quit your dream because no producer/director ever got a chance to see your acting prowess due to how obscure your performances were in no man's land town....

    trust me.
    you are sucking dick to get in that door.

    edit:
    im a painter/fine artist.
    ive been one for 20 years.
    this winter i am going to attempt to sell my hundreds of paintings at soho tribeca...
    but i have to be practical and realistic.
    mozart, van gogh, frans hals, and rembrandt died broke and bankrupt...and they were gods in the art world.
    even if you are the most talented motherfucker at your craft...
    you can still die broke and in obscurity.
    talent doesnt automatically gift you the world.
    you can be mozart good and still die broke and remain an unknown.

    2nd edit:
    and before you ask me the theoretical question...
    if i would suck dick to get into the door of success as a painter in soho/tribeca
    i will answer.
    not only would i suck dick....i'll fucking murder your whole family and wear their skin while dancing a jig if it meant getting out of these damn projects, out of my mom's apartment, off government assistance, and finally have some money in my bank account that isnt pennies and nickels.
    in a heartbeat without giving it a second thought.

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    Hecatom wrote: »
    io wrote: »
    Welp, guess I'm back posting here while neogaf implodes lol
    Anyway welcome.

    General discussion doesn't seem as popular as it was back in the day. Site been on the decline?
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  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,810
    edited October 22
    Nvm
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    io wrote: »
    Hecatom wrote: »
    io wrote: »
    Welp, guess I'm back posting here while neogaf implodes lol
    Anyway welcome.

    General discussion doesn't seem as popular as it was back in the day. Site been on the decline?

    Since 2009 and SFIV.
    Add the advent of reddit, discord, facebook and sites like eventscrubs
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  • GraphicGraphic Waifu Fighter V Joined: Posts: 666
    Hollywood is a crazy place. Just look how long it took to get this information to the public, or what people are classifying as an open Hollywood secret.

    It reminds me of the Penn State football coach sexual abuse scandal.



    Adding to stockyjam's post, I have a very talented friend of mine that moved out to CA to be an actor after graduating from college. I consider him one of the most talented people I have ever known and he did all he could to make it work (joined a union, constant interviews etc). The highlight of his career was saying two sentences on an episode of Law & Order.

    Connections will always trump talent in Hollywood.
  • WellmanWellman Joined: Posts: 3,995
    NickRocks wrote: »
    No one would be complaining if it was chris hemsworth rapin all these women

    I get the joke but for the sake of balance, I have to step in and say there is always a difference between sex and rape. While not on the level of Hemsworth, a pretty rapist like former NFL player and analyst, Darren Sharper, still caught time for his shit.
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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,423
    StockyJam wrote: »
    Snip.
    And guess what? That's your & the people who want to get into showbiz prerogative. I'm a firm believer they everyone has a choice in the career they pursuit.

    I'm a amateur writer and you can bet your ass I would love to be a writer for a production company here in ATL, but would I sell my soul for that position? Fuck no!

    Why is it simplified? Because it's just that simple, you have a choice. . .always remember that.
  • XvideosXvideos Xvideos Joined: Posts: 3,299
    edited October 24
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/bimadewunmi/lets-talk-about-black-women-in-hollywood-and-harvey
    Buried beneath the sickening story of Harvey Weinstein's abuse is another story — the problem of casting women by their fuckability — and who that leaves out.
  • axeman61axeman61 My Baby Blue. Joined: Posts: 4,791
    That's the most troubling thing too. We may never really know how many did take him up on his offer, assuming he wielded real power. If he made good on his promises at all, then at least SOME of those who did are stars now. What actress is going to reveal that? No matter how good she actually is, the knowledge that she sucked and/or fucked for one of her big breaks will follow her around for at least a few years.
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  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,465
    edited October 25
    Absolutely. Entertainment is a tough business because there's no real regulation and when someone does something like what Weinstein did, it's hard to get them because courts aren't always going to be able to make a case, and there's no HR department to run to. Actors are probably 1099'ed by the studios so it's not like they're employees in the strictest sense.

    Weinstein isn't getting ousted because of all the accusers that came forward, he's getting ousted because his colleagues refuse to cover up and protect him anymore. Let that sink in...
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  • BustaWolfeBustaWolfe Joined: Posts: 223
    edited October 26
    Apparently this isn't common knowledge that girls have to sleep with sleazy movie producers to get their roles? They even explicitly show this in movies and television.

    Are people going to be more surprised when they find out that girls can sleep their way up corporate ladder?
  • axeman61axeman61 My Baby Blue. Joined: Posts: 4,791
    edited October 26
    Should I change the title somehow to include all the entertainment industry's revelations of sexual harassment? Or keep it Hollywood? Stuff is coming in that isn't 100% movie/tv/film related, but still in the entertainment industry.

    There was a mega-chef who owned a series of famous restaurants, John Besh, who stepped down thanks to sexual harassment allegations.

    Now, Terry Richardson, a famous photographer who has had allegations in the past, is officially blackballed starting this week.

    Those are just two minor examples.
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    edited October 27
  • traxustraxus Joined: Posts: 341
    edited October 27
    People have always slept their way to the top in Hollywood. Not sure what all the fake outrage is about. From my understanding Harvey wasn't the boss of these women. He used "I can make you a star" as a pick up line. A man trying to get laid isn't a crime. I'll take this matter seriously when all the women who throw themselves at celebrities & executives to get their careers going start getting fired for sexual harassment.

    Maybe, but consider how much of their lives these young people (it's not just girls) may have invested into starting their acting careers. They might have spent all their money/taken out loans on classes/college/moving to california/etc. before being faced with something like this. Surely some of them didn't have a reliable family to fall back on either.

    Many were underage when it happened to them as well.
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    Spacey plays with boys? That is legit shocking.

    Seems like the type of gay guy I'd hang out with. He doesnt have that annoying gay lyspe that makes me what to kick puppies.

    I can also see him using his status as a great actor to force guys with him. He plays a villain too well.
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