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  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,898
    edited December 5
    flicky wrote: »
    Winter Soldier and Black Widow actually work really well as a team, especially with Time Stone. Both of them have bouncing projectiles and combined with teleports and her overhead hop, it makes seeing them things hard let alone reflecting them. She also has Shuma Gorath's eye balls so any hit seems like it leads to ridiculous shit. Both of them seem reset heavy, Bucky seems a bit of a Cable function and Black Widow seems a bit of a Jill function, screen control and mobility. I like them both.

    Venom is just easy mode character, kind of similar to Sigma in the last DLC pack, with Black Panther and Monster Hunter being a lot more technical to use.

    So what you're saying is popular characters = face roll status? I'm gonna be playing Venom like:
    anigif_original-22152-1449686638-7.gif
  • AlMoStLeGeNdArYAlMoStLeGeNdArY Optimize or Die Joined: Posts: 2,367
    Alright my quick thoughts on Winter Soldier.

    QCF LK. This move is really good it going to his main zoning tool and pressure tool. Short hop qcf. Lk is going to be a must to take full advantage of this move. It can be reflected but you can block or sometimes the bullets collide with each other. Shouldn't really be a problem if it's advancing guard. Something else you can do is his shield upon landing. So even if the bullets are reflected back nothing happens to you.

    D,d, p. This move makes him a ground god. His shield will protect him from a lot of moves. Somethings beat it but a lot of stuff wont. Lows launchers some specials and super will beat this. This should allow you to control the ground pretty strong. You still have access to guns so you can shield projectiles and win zoning wars. HP is an overhead should be able to set up hard to blockables easily.

    QCF.p haven't really seen anything that impresses me about this move. It does have some super armor. Not really sure how much. I'm not really sure about the purpose of the H version of this move.

    QCB.k the nades seem pretty interesting going to have to play around with these a bit more to see how mucb potential they have.

  • Riot55Riot55 King Scrub Joined: Posts: 859
    edited December 5
    Okay anybody find any dirty trap or web zip setups with Venom? Currently trying to optimize a tag from Hawkeye after landing freeze > freeze > poison > gimlet (tag), where Venom can then come in and do his qcbL web command grab thing. Normally he kinda rushes forward and tries to hit but I can't get this consistent for a pickup with Power Stone or anything else. Is there a way to control this followup at all? The few times I've gotten it to work with the power stone wallbounce, I don't know kinda setup you can get but I think with the qcf LK claw thing since it still barely hits and knocks opponents into the air where they recover, I wonder if there's some kind of crossup or trap setup here.

    Also his grounded super seems like it does bad damage and leaves no followup but I thought I remember seeing in a video where you can do something after it. How do you use this thing effectively?
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  • Evil CanadianEvil Canadian T.Hawk is a good guy Joined: Posts: 9,519
    Man did the patch buff the arcade mode ai? going through it to get some colours real quick and the AI actually did an honest to god combo against me. I have never seen that before.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,946 mod
    Maximilian accidentally found that you can combo after his qcf kk super so should be ways to do it

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  • NickRocksNickRocks Knock Knock Joined: Posts: 22,878
    Im just happy venoms back...but man do i miss rushdown pressure venom. His j.hk is sorely missed. His new air special is aight. The traps are whatever, maybe im playing venom wrong but im tryna be up in ppls faces w him not running away. Hes sposeta be a mobile super grappler

    Venom looks sexy af in red tho. Red nova/venom gang
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  • AlMoStLeGeNdArYAlMoStLeGeNdArY Optimize or Die Joined: Posts: 2,367
    Man black widow gonna put some hurting on people lol.
  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Yum Yum Joined: Posts: 7,461
    I can't believe how fun they all are.

    Bucky especially. I'm putting time into that character.
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  • flickyflicky Super Nintendo Chalmers Joined: Posts: 876
    flicky wrote: »
    Winter Soldier and Black Widow actually work really well as a team, especially with Time Stone. Both of them have bouncing projectiles and combined with teleports and her overhead hop, it makes seeing them things hard let alone reflecting them. She also has Shuma Gorath's eye balls so any hit seems like it leads to ridiculous shit. Both of them seem reset heavy, Bucky seems a bit of a Cable function and Black Widow seems a bit of a Jill function, screen control and mobility. I like them both.

    Venom is just easy mode character, kind of similar to Sigma in the last DLC pack, with Black Panther and Monster Hunter being a lot more technical to use.

    So what you're saying is popular characters = face roll status? I'm gonna be playing Venom like:
    anigif_original-22152-1449686638-7.gif

    Not exactly saying they're baby tier, it's just Venom has a lot of easy combo extenders like Sigma does compared to the others. For example, launch qcb+p, launch qcf+p, launch abcd, is a combo I came up with in like 30 seconds, Winter Soldier and Black Widow takes a little bit more thought to play as them. It doesn't speak anything about Venom's neutral though, he's just a good character for beginners who's both visually impressive and functional even at a low level.
  • UnSaxon51UnSaxon51 I'm dreaming of a green Christmas Joined: Posts: 4,270
    GhostTear wrote: »
    disney really gonna buy fox...damn son...

    On one hand, I'm super excited at the prospect of X-Men/FF being fully under the Marvel house.
    The childish slapfight between Marvel and Fox was old before it started.

    On the other hand, though, that's one more notch in the belt of the Great Mouse Empire...
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  • AlMoStLeGeNdArYAlMoStLeGeNdArY Optimize or Die Joined: Posts: 2,367
    I think I found my Winter Soldier bnb hopefully someone has something a bit better. I'm probably going to run soul storm with Bucky. His shield seens pretty silly with another character in the fray.
  • KingCrimsonKingCrimson CFN: OldManRage Joined: Posts: 1,384
    edited December 5
    Man did the patch buff the arcade mode ai? going through it to get some colours real quick and the AI actually did an honest to god combo against me. I have never seen that before.

    I only played Arcade Mode for the first time last night (which was after the patch), but the AI did a combo that took about 65-75% of my character's life away. It included at least two level 1 supers with the characters being tagged out during/before supers to continue the combo. I'm not sure if that was typical pre-patch but that surprised the hell out of me.
  • AlkipotAlkipot Mayoral Upper! Joined: Posts: 2,033
    I expect many a video from you @Evil Canadian I don’t wanna think, I wanna steal! Get to work!

    *cracks whip*
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  • thiagoeisthiagoeis Just press the buttons Joined: Posts: 662
    Maravilla wrote: »
    GhostTear wrote: »
    disney really gonna buy fox...damn son...

    What does this mean for MVCI?

    High level salty play

    - I try to play:
    MvC:I: Reality-Ultron/Chun, Time-Ultron/Chun, Time-Cap.Marvel/Ryu, ?-Venom/?
    DBZ: Trunks/Piccolo/Yamcha
    UMvC3: Chun-Li/Doom/Strider, Taskmaster/Chun/Hawkeye, Task/Doom/Hawk, point Hawkeye and point Vergil (troll) teams
    SFV: Alex, Guile and Ryu (CFN id: trakkerzorg)

    Other games:
    - I play 4fun or when someone asks:
    GGXrd: Slayer
    SFxT: Combinations of Poison, Jin, Ryu, Vega(Claw), Yoshimitsu, Guile and sometimes Chun
    MSH: Psylocke and Spider-Man
    MvC: Gambit, Spider-Man, Ryu, Strider. Trolls with Zangief, Venom and O. Hulk
    Super Turbo/HDR: Guile, Vega(Claw)
    3rd Strike: Akuma, Ryu. Trolls with Alex and Twelve
    USFIV: Vega(Claw), Ryu. Fools around with Seth and Poison

    - Stuff that I should practice more but I don't:
    DOA5LR: Kasumi
    MvC2: WarMachine/IronMan/Doom. Also weird teams with Rogue, Gambit, Ken, Akuma and other mid tiers
    CvS2: A-Guile/Ryu/Vega, A-Terry/Ken/Vega
    KOF XIII: Terry/King/Kim
  • NationsCapitalNationsCapital Joined: Posts: 6
    Man did the patch buff the arcade mode ai? going through it to get some colours real quick and the AI actually did an honest to god combo against me. I have never seen that before.

    Yep saw the same thing. The ai on very easy did a 75% on me earlier.
    Afterwards it let me walk up and kill it though, so you know, whatever
  • CyberPhoenix0252CyberPhoenix0252 Joined: Posts: 542
    Finally getting the hang of Venom, even managed a few 6k combos too.

    Winter Soldier and Black Widow are pretty fun, but something about them seems a bit... off for me. I can't exactly put my finger on it.
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  • MythicMndMythicMnd Joined: Posts: 4
    Really enjoying the new characters. Did anyone already mention that you can tiger knee Venom Barrel? Seems like it opens up interesting possibilities. You can also tiger knee Widow's LK command grab. You don't get as much range as her grounded HK grab, but you get much better follow ups.
  • Evil CanadianEvil Canadian T.Hawk is a good guy Joined: Posts: 9,519
    Alkipot wrote: »
    I expect many a video from you @Evil Canadian I don’t wanna think, I wanna steal! Get to work!

    *cracks whip*

    Sure!

    just gotta steal from some other people first :skull:
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,830
    I'm loving Bucky. Short hop j.qcf LK will definitely piss people off. I wish the dummy setting for this game weren't shit so I test how much shit metal shield could stop.
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  • MaravillaMaravilla Joined: Posts: 276
    thiagoeis wrote: »
    Maravilla wrote: »
    GhostTear wrote: »
    disney really gonna buy fox...damn son...

    What does this mean for MVCI?


    Hell yea! Already hyped!

  • Ben DamonBen Damon Model pants anyone? Joined: Posts: 602
    Random but, how sick would it be if they gave us a remix of that Xmen theme?
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  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Yum Yum Joined: Posts: 7,461
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
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  • Kalyx triaDKalyx triaD Serious Business Joined: Posts: 3,187
    Ben Damon wrote: »
    Random but, how sick would it be if they gave us a remix of that Xmen theme?

    Ah I see you haven't learned...

    Their themes will likely be Walmart versions of Ottman's themes. Marvel will continue to have the Marvel side being 'so cinematic' musically.

    This is the way it is now.
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  • appoappo ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Joined: Posts: 4,792
    Alkipot wrote: »
    I expect many a video from you @Evil Canadian I don’t wanna think, I wanna steal! Get to work!

    *cracks whip*

    Sure!

    just gotta steal from some other people first :skull:

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  • GhostTearGhostTear Vanessa for MVCI! Joined: Posts: 2,765
    My only beef with black widow is why they didnt give her a dress

    Space stone black widow/gamora
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  • Evil CanadianEvil Canadian T.Hawk is a good guy Joined: Posts: 9,519
    BUCKY MY BOY

    You got armoured moves
    Metal shield owns everything
    bionic arm super is full invincible until after it hits

    BUCKY, YOU ARE A BIG BOY!!!!!!!

    Although for a large lad, he's awful small, but get him some of that gattaca surgery and we can fix that.
  • amrraedamrraed Bombeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!! Joined: Posts: 4,833
    I like winter soldier. I feel that he can annoy people and yay on invisible metal knuckle sandwich.
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  • MilesRieyMilesRiey Cavalry is here Joined: Posts: 5,610
    BUCKY MY BOY

    You got armoured moves
    Metal shield owns everything
    bionic arm super is full invincible until after it hits

    BUCKY, YOU ARE A BIG BOY!!!!!!!

    Although for a large lad, he's awful small, but get him some of that gattaca surgery and we can fix that.

    All it's missing is the mask, would've gone from 10/10 to 11/10
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  • BMsirhc1313BMsirhc1313 I'm 0ld Joined: Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Maravilla wrote: »
    GhostTear wrote: »
    disney really gonna buy fox...damn son...

    What does this mean for MVCI?

    Means Magneto.
  • MaravillaMaravilla Joined: Posts: 276
    Maravilla wrote: »
    GhostTear wrote: »
    disney really gonna buy fox...damn son...

    What does this mean for MVCI?

    Means Magneto.

    Hopefully wolvie,deapool,cyclops too.

  • WorstPlayerWorstPlayer Calm Yourself Joined: Posts: 4,898
    It was all in the cards, capcom knew EXACTLY what it was doing with this DLC and fan baiting and it's getting all my moneys.
  • KingCrimsonKingCrimson CFN: OldManRage Joined: Posts: 1,384
    Unfortunately since there were no X-Men at launch, even if they do start putting them out as DLC, there's going to be a fair amount of fan favourites missing...

    I can't be the only one that would love a modern all X-Men fighting game. Give me everyone from Wolverine to Rogue to Nightcrawler to Colossus, from Magneto to Sabretooth to Juggernaut to Apocolypse.
  • CyberPhoenix0252CyberPhoenix0252 Joined: Posts: 542
    edited December 6
    I just pulled off a 70% combo with Dante* against a Spencer/Dante player today.

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  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,619 mod
    Widow is insane
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  • JohnPauliukJohnPauliuk Joined: Posts: 421
    Bucky is super oppressive. He can lock you down very well. Black widow has great mobility and mixups. Her downward grapple move lets her cancel her movement at any time and allows for good setups.
  • k4polok4polo Your Lethal Assassin Joined: Posts: 4,725
    edited December 6
    Widow is insane

    Indeed. I am maining her personally.

    Bomb setup galore.
    End combos with Bomb then mix-ups.
    Lock them down and set a bomb.

    She is solid but more important to me, fun to use.
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 57,946 mod
    How u lern da cawmbos so quik?

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