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Mystic Gohan Thread - Potential Unleashed

FrozteyFroztey Break the CuffsJoined: Posts: 10,911 mod
edited January 30 in Dragon Ball FighterZ
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  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    Nakkiel combo video.

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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    Corner BnB 6.4K / Solo 1Bar

  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    edited January 30
    Good mid screen combo only using one bar and an assist from Black (it should work with SSJ Goku and SSJVegeta, will test later.)



    Annotations: 2L - 5L - 5M - 2M - 3H - j.LML - dj.LL(Call Black)L - dash 5M - 3H - Super Jump.LML2HH - j.LML2H - dj.LLH - j.2S - Level 1 Super or Level 3
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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    Mid-screen BnB 5k / Solo No bar

  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    I got a question for you Adult Gohan mains: The reason I'm not seeing a lot of machine gun kick loops BnB, is because it scales badly?
  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    Weeaboo wrote: »
    I got a question for you Adult Gohan mains: The reason I'm not seeing a lot of machine gun kick loops BnB, is because it scales badly?

    I'm still learning most of the BnB I have seen around. I have a hard time doing combos on this games because I'm not used to the double jump mechanics.

    Will give it a try with the machine gun when I get the BnB down.
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  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    edited February 1
    7k combo/1bar/solo/on the wall

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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    Corner BnB 5.8K / Solo 1Bar

  • shunsukeshunsuke I like turtles Joined: Posts: 90
    7k combo/1bar/solo/on the wall

    Freezer specific ?
  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    shunsuke wrote: »
    7k combo/1bar/solo/on the wall

    Freezer specific ?

    Tbh I haven't try it yet as I'm trying to learn to do the more easier combos.

    What's the best combo from mid screen no bar solo from him?
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  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    shunsuke wrote: »
    7k combo/1bar/solo/on the wall

    Freezer specific ?

    Tbh I haven't try it yet as I'm trying to learn to do the more easier combos.

    What's the best combo from mid screen no bar solo from him?

    I think 2L 5M 2M 3H j.MLL2H SD j.ML2H j.LLL should be his best.
    If Gohan is Level 1, you can replace the la j.LLL part by j.LL2H 214+L.

  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    edited February 1
    SHwoKing wrote: »
    shunsuke wrote: »
    7k combo/1bar/solo/on the wall

    Freezer specific ?

    Tbh I haven't try it yet as I'm trying to learn to do the more easier combos.

    What's the best combo from mid screen no bar solo from him?

    I think 2L 5M 2M 3H j.MLL2H SD j.ML2H j.LLL should be his best.
    If Gohan is Level 1, you can replace the la j.LLL part by j.LL2H 214+L.

    I cant do the last j.LLL

    I guess I need to do the extra jump on it but still not high enough to land the jLLL.

    Is there something I'm missing?
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  • GonoXLGonoXL Joined: Posts: 48
    edited February 1
    SHwoKing wrote: »

    I think 2L 5M 2M 3H j.MLL2H SD j.ML2H j.LLL should be his best.
    If Gohan is Level 1, you can replace the la j.LLL part by j.LL2H 214+L.

    you can fit another L into the part after the super dash so it's SD > LML2H j.LLL
    If you plan to use DHCs afterwards skip it for scaling though.

    Also when hes level one you can do a longer ground string first. I haven't confirmed anything damage wise but 2L L M 2M 3L 3H j.MLL2H seems to work. Hold the 3L until it passes 4 hits to get the full 9.
  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 577
    edited February 1
    Finally manage to did that one. Yeah I need to practice a lot to get this combo down. I guess I will do with my regular 4k combo with out the 2H before the J.LLL for the moment on MP.
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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
  • DurangoDurango RangoTheMercenary Joined: Posts: 136
    Does Gohan (Adult) click well with Goku and Vegeta for assists?
  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Weeaboo wrote: »

    Just to nitpick to be exact for the very first portion actually vegetas assist, the final fireball can be deflected to make yourself invincible if you will. only the first so many are undeflectable/unflyable out of block stun.
  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    @dialupsucky

    Wanna pick your brain here; after the initial deflect how quick are you able to get a normal, special or super out in a block string like this, frame-wise?
  • FrozteyFroztey Break the Cuffs Joined: Posts: 10,911 mod
    Durango wrote: »
    Does Gohan (Adult) click well with Goku and Vegeta for assists?

    I think literally anyone can click with Goku and Vegeta's assists
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  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Weeaboo wrote: »
    @dialupsucky

    Wanna pick your brain here; after the initial deflect how quick are you able to get a normal, special or super out in a block string like this, frame-wise?

    Well in this final version it is not instant anymore I know that much, it certainly isnt as free as it was in past beta. Couldnt tell ya how fast it is not a frame data dude, if its just reflect you can reflect into anything immediately but now my guesstimate is it looks like when the character is done with their initial swipe of their hand or whatever they do to deflect then you can cancel with a normal special whatever.

    Anyway cool video, I was just being anal really since vegetas assist and him stand alone with those moves curiously they "fixed" them if you will in that you cant deflect through it for free.. but didnt bother to do that for the very last hit of the fireball for some reason meaning if you see it you can still theorectically mash at the end and youll deflect for free. Curiously as well gotenks spam fireball some of the fireballs in it as well are deflectable. Go figure. like the developers got lazy and just threw a couple freebies in their for ya
  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    edited February 3
    IOH Fuzzy utilizing Ex machinegun kick

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    Beware of using EX Legs with Adult Gohan at Lvl 1:

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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    edited February 6
    Man! I was getting punish like a muthafucker in rank this afternoon for doing that :D

    I thought I was doing something wrong, thanks for the info bro.
  • DurangoDurango RangoTheMercenary Joined: Posts: 136
    Can someone tell me the point of Gohan's rapid flying kick and Potential Unleashed?
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited February 7
    Flying Kicks is a complete part of Gohan's pressure. You can litterally finish every blockstring with 2H 236M. It is safe but minus. With a proper assist it is not only safe, you can just continue you offense. 2H 236H is plus on block and gives High/Low mixup in the corner. 236L is unsafe and not usefull until someone found something with it, maybe in a corner combo.

    Check Yogaflame24's Youtube, there's a recent video between a GG and an UNIEL player. One of them use Gohan and use Flying Kick blockstring all the time.

    With Potential Unleashed Level 1, you gain access to some new possibilities. 214L or M H will always teleport above your opponent’s head wherever he is. You can for exemple finish combo with j.LL2H214L instead of j.LLL for a bit more damage.
    3L is a new move (same as the second move of LLL autocombo).
    The autocombo is different as well.

    After that every level enhance Gohan’s damage up to Level 7 where you gain acces to reverse beat strings which open new combo potential.
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,371
    Also, at some of his higher levels the damage on his ex qcf specials starts to surpass lvl 1 supers.
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG


    Level 1 give access to a vortex using 214H after a smash 2H.
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    SHwoKing wrote: »


    Level 1 give access to a vortex using 214H after a smash 2H.

    Tested it and it is indeed untechable. You always get up the same way. Have to test if you can connect a 214H without Level 1 using an assist.

  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    That was fucking beautiful man, just amazing.
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I’ve made some lab about 214H.

    You don’t need to be level 1 to connect it. Just use a proper assist. Tien, Vegeta, Yamcha works for exemple.

    If Gohan is level 1 or above, he can do it by himself without an assist using 2H or j.H that should smash (when camera angle is triggered).
    In both situation, assist or level 1 you have to sacrifice your 2H smash or 214H will not HKD.

    So you’ve land 214H, what do you do now ?

    In mid screen :

    An easy and effective setup I’ve found is maintain 8 to jump vertically. From there you have different options :

    j.H : one of the option you will use the most. They cannot TP. Reversals are too slow, Gohan can block while landing. So basically they have to block it.

    Once they learn to respect it :

    Empty jump 5L : very fast low. You can mess around with the timing using j.2S
    Low height IAD j.H : will crossup. You can thet follow with 5M,2M etc…
    Low height IAD 2S 5L : with proper 2S timing, you can land in front or behind your opponent.


    In the corner :

    You can connect 214H without an assist. I have to search for optimal combos this way.

    Vertical jump setup still apply but you’ll lose the crossup possibilities.
    On tall characters you can j.H land j.L and they will get hit if they try to crouch after the j.H. Have to check the timing and how you can convert from there.
    I also need to check if you can do it mid screen.

    Note that you can also use meaty 6M, timing is tricky to connect with 5L. IMO that is one of the worst option as 6M can be block on reaction.
    More to come probably.


  • flighflighflugitflighflighflugit Joined: Posts: 1,910
    I thought if you delay tech you can get the up tech from any ground slide
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I thought if you delay tech you can get the up tech from any ground slide

    You cannot delay wake up in this case. There's only one way to get up.

    BTW the 214H must be air 214H in order to get the untechable KD. On the ground your opponent can tech.
  • EmblemLordEmblemLord Lord of all Lords Joined: Posts: 5,845
    Weeaboo wrote: »
    Mid-screen BnB 5k / Solo No bar


    Not a true no bar combo.


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  • WeeabooWeeaboo The Dream is dead. . . Joined: Posts: 1,597
    -sigh-

    Why bro?
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Weeaboo wrote: »
    -sigh-

    Why bro?

    He needs to be Level 1 to do that. Standard Gohan Bnb in Level 1
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    You don't deserve to know my name !
  • SHwoKingSHwoKing Joined: Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    That’s a very good combo. Thanks for sharing. 5700+ and more than 2 bars is very good indeed.
  • NaerasNaeras Terribad Joined: Posts: 3,617
    SHwoKing wrote: »
    That’s a very good combo. Thanks for sharing. 5700+ and more than 2 bars is very good indeed.

    And it starts from a light. >_<
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