Info on the Old School SF Scene?

ilitirit

What I remember from Old School SF:

"DP is easy to do! Just walk forward and fireball!"

Getting into heated arguments when you win because of "patterning" (tick/empty throws)

Scrub rules: Can't hit a dizzy opponent if he says "Mercy!"

Guile's flashkick was called "blade kick", and the arc came from the switchblade he had hidden in his boot

Travelling for hours to find new competition

Travelling for hours because of a rumour that SF3 was out (Red Wave bootleg)

Different spots had different top tiers because most of the local cafeterias only had 3 button cabs, and each machine had a different button combination (Usually 2 punches + 1 kick. Gief was low tier)

Cursing the dumb joystick first time I played ST because for some reason my DP's weren't working anymore

"beep-beep duuuunggg kee!" (spinning bird kick)

Wasting credits trying to reach Sheng Long

Glitching the burning drums on bonus stage to fall through the screen


Aaah the old school was fun

Ni8wing

Hey Old schoolers out there who been playing SF2 forever.

What's a faster game arcade Hyper Fighting or arcade Level 3 Super Turbo?

Right now I'm in an HDR remix binge and man this game awesomely addicting!!!! It's so freaking fast!!! It's funny how my mind is processing the moves at such a quick pace. It's like I'm on speed. I wonder why I never played a fast game like Marvel.

bitkid

Its funny reading some of these posts around times when a new SF game comes out and the OG players will say like how it will get them stoked on SF again. I have a feeling that this is going to happen till the end of time, or until Capcom decides to stop putting out SF games altogether, whichever comes first. What would you guys do if Capcom didn't make a new SF game anymore? Is there any particular game in the series that you would then decide to play above all others or would you just stop playing?

Guile75

The only game that i can imagine would consume me like SF does, would be a 3D (very important), kinect enabled (perfect) 1st person fight night boxing game... maybe.

Axl_m4ster

BRPXQZME, post: 63140 wrote:

Common misconception; it was in development before SF2 was released (both released the same year, similar graphic style, yeah, it looks like a SF2 knockoff superficially, but the fighting system is just way too weird in comparison). It's more like an SF1 knockoff; the timing it takes to play FF is ridiculous.

true.
the only real problem with Fatal Fury, was that you could never find a cabinet around, anywhere, at any time.
i eventually got Fatal Fury for the Sega Genesis. loved it. i don't remember the game having strict timing for moves though. i remember using the code for unlocking Geese Howard as a playable character. he had his attack reversal, which countered every other character's move, regardless if it was a normal move, or a super.
homboy was 'broken' as hell.
i remember when i first saw MK1.
for peeps who weren't around at that time, Mortal Kombat was the SF4 of its day.
it had so-so gameplay, but stunning 3D graphics that was a novelty for its FG genre.
thats the only thing MK had going for it, aside from the fatalities.

i don't really have a SF2 great story, since it wasn't so shocking/new for me, since i had already played SF1.

i remember the first time i played SF1. it was at a laundymat right across from where i lived. it was also at a bodega 1 block away.
i marveled at its graphics, its sound effects, and its gameplay.
i didn't know exactly how to pull off Ryu's 3 supers, since there really wasn't anyone who really knew. but i spammed half circle/quarter circle movements plus punch, and sometimes haduken/shoryuken came out, but it was iffy.
i never beat that game.
the farthest i got to was Birdie.
Birdie was different in those days. he was white, had neon colored mohawk hair, super tall, and had a vicious jumping headbutt(i think it was his super) that destroyed your full life meter in 4 seconds flat.
i wish i knew the correct stick inputs for Ryu's 3 supers, maybe i would have been able to reach Sagat and put that shoryuken scar on his chest.
i was in the 7th or 8th grade in my first encounter with SF1.
when SF2 came out. i was in 1st year of HS, i think, and i remember playing in laundrymats, arcades, bodegas, budda spots, video rental stores, etc...
i remember being given 3 bucks every day to buy caferteria lunch with, buying/eating a 75 cent burger or sandwich, and saving the rest of those daily 3 dollar rations to go play SF2 right after school, every single day, every week, for a year.
i went hungry and thirsty for SF2.

if the supers were easy/reliable to pull off in SF1,.....
and people could actually play each other,
and you could choose any character from the game instead of only ryu or ken.....

we would all be talking 'bout the "remember da good ol' days of SF1" instead of SF2.

edit:
i forgot to mention Samurai Shodown1 was out in SF2 days, along with World Heroes Gorgeous, but those cabinets were hard to locate, but those games were super fun to play. especially SS.
i remember the thrill of cutting down bamboo trees with my sword while battling in the bamboo forest. shit was epic.

Jion_Wansu

Jion_Wansu, post: 63121 wrote:

Stayin' alive, we old schoolers should never forget this thread.

I used to remember spending all my lunch money on SF2. They had an SF2 WW or CE machine almost everywhere I went. At the pizza places, bowling alley, Safeway, a sports bar, a movie theater, 7-11, etc. My friends and I used to go to the pizza places to eat and play SF. If there wasn't any good comp we then walked or road our bikes to the bowling alley or Boxseat (a sports bar). Every now and again we went to the 7-11. The 7-11 had WW, CE, CE rainbow edition, Heavy Barrel and some shooting game. I think it was Terminator 2 or some stuff. And of course it had 1 pinball machine. Anyways, the scene nowadays is pretty much dying. It's kinda sad. Man, those were some good old times back then.

Where are all the old schoolers?

Abhi

Man I posted back in 2003 and 2004 for this thread

Newtype Andy

Nice bump!

Jubei Kibagami

Thanks for reminding of this great thread. I remember reading it like around 10 years ago. Gonna have to give it another read for old times sake.

blockhead

This was a great thread I read the whole thing in one sitting. I wish I was born earlier so that I could have gotten into the scene earlier. I played Street Fighter 2 growing up but it wasn't until later I got serious about it. I feel like I missed out on a lot because of that.

Kinniku Buster

It's infinitely better than the "scene" is now and will ever be.

itsOneO

When SF2 dropped, I can honestly say it changed my life. haha

I remember seeing it for the first time as a kid in Brooklyn in '91. I practically LIVED in that Blimpies and fed that arcade machine, losing, winning, and learning.

The Coney Island scene was CRAZY. It was literally a ROW of Street Fighter 2 CE cabinets lined up side by side. The small ones were for practice, but then there was a "competitive machine", where u just had to stand in line & test your skills.

SF2 was everywhere in the 90's. It was always cool to find a SF Rainbow Edition and pull off crazy stuff. We would have air hadoken fights. And try to do that massive 360 piledriver that laps the screen about 8 times until the driver finally lands & it takes 100% damage. lmao

SSF2T was a very dope time too. Akuma's debut was AWESOME. Hidden characters (like Reptile also) meant SO MUCH MORE back then. You got massive props for reaching him, and the adrenaline rush you get when all the ppl are behind you cheering you on is unreal. The Akuma code @ the character select screen was a word-of-mouth thing, and was actually kind of difficult to pull off. I will admit that I used him a few times in competition even though I knew he was broken (i was a kid though lol).

X-Men: Children of The Atom was amazing (Akuma Code >__< !!!) . Marvel Superheroes amazing times! But XMen vs SF changed the game for everybody. It was a sea of ppl playing that. Loved it! Ppl were playing Alpha series, but VS games were KILLING EVERYBODY.

When SF3 dropped, I saw the distaste with my own eyes. It wasn't the learning curve, it was the fact that only Ryu & Ken was in it. They really shouldve added a few more SF2 ppl, because thats all i heard from casuals and vets alike back then. But the ppl that loved SF, still played it and appreciated it. There was also alot of "2D is dead" debate back then too.

Everything started to fall apart around Tekken 3/Tekken Tag, when VF3 turned out to be weak & when MK4 really sucked. The last hurrah was MVC2. We grinded out those credits to unlock all the characters. CVS1,CVS2, and SVC was cool but the scene was on the death bed by then. The internet was accessible to everyone, and the best games could be played at your leisure at home.

I feel sorry for these kids that never witnessed the arcade scene when Street Fighter blew up. Its a completely different feeling playing online in your house, and playing in a dingy pizzeria with 6 ppl watching u. And their quarters are up and you're down to your last two quarters, so you GOTTA win. I even feel like I play differently nowadays, more carelessly. The only thing comparable to that feeling is the tournament scene. RIP Street Fighter golden era lol.

I WILL have a SF2 cabinet in my home one day.

TarkanX

I'm not sure if I ever posted in this thread, but I wanted to say that I remember this thread from when it was created about 10 years ago, and it is still one of the greatest threads I have ever read. I still read Jcasetnl's posts about 2-3 times a year... it puts a smile (and a frown, for obvious reasons) on my face.

Sarangha

http://www.twitch.tv/ultrachentv/b/320510817

A goldmine of old school info from an OG SF player turned VF player LA_Akira. He talks about happenings even before Jeff showing up. He might be the first player to fly and play the Japanese. Very interesting from start to finish imho.

DanDan

Sarangha, post: 7066574, member: 609 wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/ultrachentv/b/320510817

A goldmine of old school info from an OG SF player turned VF player LA_Akira. Very interesting from start to finish imho.

Wow! I love stuff like this, man. Always exciting to know how shit went down back in the day.
Wish more people were more open to learn about old school habits, competitive attitudes and the like.
Would definitely tone down/remove the stupidity of some community members who only know SFIV (08? 09?) and onwards.

Sarangha

DanDan, post: 7066610, member: 21760 wrote:

Wow! I love stuff like this, man. Always exciting to know how shit went down back in the day.
Wish more people were more open to learn about old school habits, competitive attitudes and the like.
Would definitely tone down/remove the stupidity of some community members who only know SFIV (08? 09?) and onwards.

They are at a point of finding their groove in the current games and after years of experience their curiosity will lead them to inquire about this subject. I'm talking about the younger players specifically and not basing my opinion on join dates alone.

tataa8P

I feel like this thread has to be stickied somewhere down the line so that newer players can have a glimpse of SF in the FGC history prior to diving into the newer threads. whenever somebody bumps this thread, I kinda browse it and then proceed to play some ST for a couple hours and then I feel great again.

8P

Radiantsilvergun3

DanDan, post: 7066610, member: 21760 wrote:

Wow! I love stuff like this, man. Always exciting to know how shit went down back in the day.
Wish more people were more open to learn about old school habits, competitive attitudes and the like.
Would definitely tone down/remove the stupidity of some community members who only know SFIV (08? 09?) and onwards.

Well you gotta remember their young/new and don't know any better really. SF4 is their SF2. At one point we where all young/new and dumb. We all had to grow into the players we are today. Give the new generation time as well, the ones that stick around in a meaningful way will also evolve into worthwhile players.

Not to say I don't shit on em from time to time either cuz man some of are fuckin duuuuumb.

DanDan

Good points dudes.

deadfrog

Sarangha, post: 7066574, member: 609 wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/ultrachentv/b/320510817

A goldmine of old school info from an OG SF player turned VF player LA_Akira. He talks about happenings even before Jeff showing up. He might be the first player to fly and play the Japanese. Very interesting from start to finish imho.

Yeah man, that episode was SO GOOD.

Sarangha

deadfrog, post: 7069294, member: 5849 wrote:

Yeah man, that episode was SO GOOD.

I had no idea Jeff was in desert storm. I also like the fact that they touched upon the players giving their own slang terms for certain moves like razor kick. I think that was common place in the 90s no matter where you played. You know you played SF2 in the 90s when you pronounce Sagat the way LA_Akira does lol. The crazy amount of versions of the initial SF2 release were totally new to me, pure gold.

Radiantsilvergun3

Sarangha, post: 7069313, member: 609 wrote:

I had no idea Jeff was in dessert storm. I also like the fact that they touched upon the players giving their own slang terms for certain moves like razor kick. I think that was common place in the 90s no matter where you played. You know you played SF2 in the 90s when you pronounce Sagat the way LA_Akira does lol. The crazy amount of versions of the initial SF2 release where totally new to me, pure gold.

I always feel like my little brother was born too late cuz he does this shit. He has his own name for a lot of moves in fighting games and even names for combos an shit. A lot of em are pretty funny imo.

deadfrog

Radiantsilvergun3, post: 7069327, member: 5737 wrote:

He has his own name for a lot of moves in fighting games and even names for combos an shit.

Just get in there and hit 'em with the old

Fudd

This thread is officially more than 10 years old now.

And it's still the best damn read on SRK.

eltrouble

Fudd, post: 7304450, member: 4180 wrote:

This thread is officially more than 10 years old now.

And it's still the best damn read on SRK.

That's because there's more interesting and relevant stories and information in this thread than the vast majority of SRK combined.

Jazz

You know a thread is good when you get hype reading it again 6 years later

oldschool_BR

bitkid, post: 63203, member: 5986 wrote:

Its funny reading some of these posts around times when a new SF game comes out and the OG players will say like how it will get them stoked on SF again. I have a feeling that this is going to happen till the end of time, or until Capcom decides to stop putting out SF games altogether, whichever comes first. What would you guys do if Capcom didn't make a new SF game anymore? Is there any particular game in the series that you would then decide to play above all others or would you just stop playing?

I stopped playing the new games since A3 (included), since they were just too bad. A2 was the last acceptable version, and even that one I sort of dislike, now. It would be so much easier to fix it then to release completely new crap with completely modified properties over and over. As for the question itself, it's been years that I only really play ST, and some CE when I do not find people with good ping on GGPO or Supercade.

PointBreak91

Criminal that pure ST and Alpha 2 still aren't on Live. I played some HDR ranked last night and it was just a sorry succession of weak ass pullers. Lamers like that would be asked to leave and then forced to leave in a '90s arcade.

Axl_m4ster

i blame SF4 for teaching em bad habits and causing lack of fundamentals.

they probably get on hdr thinkin that these will work:
keep spamming weak attacks till its massive hit stun leads to unblockable ex bullshit or vortex.
and turtle like a bitch all day till your ultra saves your ass
fadc everything(oops! no FAs in SF2...what to do what to do?)

ShotgunSteve

man, this thread takes me back to High School. I spent all day in leadership class for about a week sifting through all these posts

Jion_Wansu

Fuck yeah! Best thread ever!

rukawa_kaede

Reading Jcasetnl's posts brought alot of memories :D

Saving this thread for later
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Fudd

Whew, thank God this thread is still here. I get scared it'll disappear every time there's some kind of big forum change.

Joe Asakura

I find it funny how we can feel nostalgia over a thread whose original discussion was on nostalgia to begin with....kind of like a message board "Inception".

This too is my favorite SRK thread. First read through it during my High School years, now coming back to it as a recent college grad. Still chuckle at the "Remedial Edition" story!

taiji

Nostalgia overload! Haha first time I played sf2 was during a vacationin Reno. I was about 8 & I remember someone teaching me the sonic boom.. wow how time flys!!

I love everything capcom has done pre sf4, ST & A3 will alway have a special place in my heart.

PointBreak91

taiji wrote: »

I love everything capcom has done pre sf4

lol, dat shark jump

Maybe some more of you old schoolers who prefer real fighting should do an LA, and check out VF? Mind games for dayz, and none of this slow assed, runaway bs trash everywhere, that's for sure.

SirMixahLot

@taiji wrote: »

Nostalgia overload! Haha first time I played sf2 was during a vacationin Reno. I was about 8 & I remember someone teaching me the sonic boom.. wow how time flys!!

I love everything capcom has done pre sf4, ST & A3 will alway have a special place in my heart.

What up Taiji? Still rocking Mageto?