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  • TizocTizoc Joined: Posts: 11,406

    Say did anyone else catch the fake Spider-Man villain on Young Justice? I think Josh Keaton may have voiced him too, sounded similar. Peter David wrote the episode but I think Greg Weisman of Spectacular Spider-Man fame was having a bit of fun lol! :D

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    Actually that's Black Spider, he appeared in a previous episode of Young Justice-
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Spider#Television
    ...What surprised me was that one of their teleporters is a friggin' Police Box XD
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  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    Teen Wolf...

    Funny you mentioned that. In the first episode of Ultimate Spider-Man Peter repeated the same line from Teen Wolf about Scott and Boof running away when they were kids but they just kept going around the block. Of course it was Pete and MJ instead.

    So far Spectacular Spider-Man is better than Ultimate Spider-Man IMHO but the first few eps were alright. I'll keep watching.


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    I liked Ultimate Spiderman, it's like a more kid friendly version of Batman BatB~
    ...and Sano you did watch Avengers' Season 2 premiere right? Doom was a boss in it \m/
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  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    ...and Sano you did watch Avengers' Season 2 premiere right? Doom was a boss in it \m/

    Oh yeah I saw that episode really early during New York Comic Con last year. I liked how they used the Fantastic Four and Doom.
  • THE_KZATHE_KZA ayy lmao Joined: Posts: 961
    so I went to 2 Avengers vs X-Men launch parties lol. I got to meet Ed Brubaker the guy is relaxed and down to earth. I wanted to get the Avengers vs X-Men fitted so bad but they didn't have my size. My friend ended up getting one.

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  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    Nice! I was busy last night with the new SFxT DLC colors and costumes, making Poison look like Mystique and stuff. No launch parties for me lol!

    Read the first issue of Avengers vs. X-Men just now though. Off to a great start!
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Thanks, Sano. Sometimes I forget how nerdy we truly are.
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  • THE_KZATHE_KZA ayy lmao Joined: Posts: 961
    I let my friend borrow SFxT for Gundam Extreme VS. Avengers vs X-Men #1 was good but I shouldn't have looked at the previews beforehand >_>
  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    Shout out to this week's ASM too. Spidey mixing it up with real world politicians word! Maybe if he actually attended congress and punched people in the face like he did in this issue the economy wouldn't be so bad. Nah. :rofl:
  • blazeu25blazeu25 blaze it up Joined: Posts: 2,054
    man i just finished reading issue 00 and 01 for AvX and jesus christ what a godliek start for a comic. i dont even read comics liek that but im hyped as hell for this one. got a few questions tho.

    1. why is wolv and beast not with the xmen?
    2. who is hope summers? relative to cyclops?
    3.wheres prof x?
    4. didt magneto hate the xmen?
    5.wasnt deadpool in the avengers?
    6. wheres the green hulk? or why is he red now?
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    Snip

    Excuse me for greentexting but

    >5
    >Deadpool
    >He's a merc
    (Though I haven't been paying attention to most Marvel comics so idk)

    Also I know there really isn't a sort of continuity between concurrent events but Deadpool should be dead shortly
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  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    man i just finished reading issue 00 and 01 for AvX and jesus christ what a godliek start for a comic. i dont even read comics liek that but im hyped as hell for this one. got a few questions tho.

    1. why is wolv and beast not with the xmen?
    2. who is hope summers? relative to cyclops?
    3.wheres prof x?
    4. didt magneto hate the xmen?
    5.wasnt deadpool in the avengers?
    6. wheres the green hulk? or why is he red now?

    1. Wolverine and Beast are with the X-Men, it's just that the team is split into two factions. One side is with Cyclops in Utopia, another side is with Wolverine at the school. Long story short, those with Cyke and those with Wolverine have different views on how the last remaining 200 Mutants should go about their business. Read Schism.

    2. Hope is a Mutant that is destined to be the Messiah that will save the Mutant race from extinction. Born in our time but raised in the future. Currently it's unknown if she is blood related to Cyclops. Cable raised Hope in the future (that's why her last name is Summers) and Cable is Cyclops' son so Cyke is kind of Hope's adopted grandfather lol! Hope may be the reincarnation of Jean Grey but we don't know for certain.

    3. Haven't seen Prof. X in a while but he's around, down with Cyclops. Cyclops leads the X-Men now (well, those that didn't side with Wolverine).

    4. Most of the time Magneto and the X-Men had opposing views. All of the movies and cartoons shed light on this relationship so hate may be a strong word for their dynamic. Anyway he's with Cyclops because there's only 200 Mutants left and they all have to stick together. He also gave Cyclops his props for being an overall bad ass and being a BETTER RULER than Mags and Prof X. CYCLOPS! FUCK YEEEEEAH!!!!

    5. No. Deadpool was down with Iron Man during Civil War but that's about it.

    6. Green Hulk's around but not with the Avengers. Red Hulk is Thunderbolt Ross, the crazy general dude from the Hulk movies.




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  • Kusanagi FireKusanagi Fire Joined: Posts: 52
    Wow, sometimes I forget how different the current 616 Marvel universe is compared to the "classic" universe we often see in movies.

    Avengers vs X-Men had a good start with issue 1, but I was hoping it would be a bit longer. Maybe I was just enjoying it and didn't want it to end where it did.

    Amazing Spider-Man was amazing (sorry, sorry). I was freaking out a bit when they showed Spidey punching a politician, but it made perfect sense afterward. Sinister Six vs The Avengers was a great battle. Can't wait to see how Spidey turns this around.
  • THE_KZATHE_KZA ayy lmao Joined: Posts: 961
    Journey into Mystery should have been a Eisner nominee. just saying
  • blazeu25blazeu25 blaze it up Joined: Posts: 2,054
    wow thanks alot for the replay sano. lot of good info to keep me updated :D. so why is there 200 mutants left? what happened to the others? anyone major died? besides jean grey of course lol
  • WishWish Joined: Posts: 24
    Wanda jacked all but a few mutants for their powers. That's one of several reasons everybody's so salty at her.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(comics)
  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    Wanda said "No More Mutants," and her magical powers reduced the Mutant population to 200 Mutants, basically removing powers from a lot of Mutants. Do not read House of M, the story where this happened. It sucks IMHO. This is REALLY all you need to know.

    Behind the scenes this happened because Marvel felt there were way too many Mutants running around. To the point where any character could show up in any book and just say they were a Mutant leaving writers to not bother with origin stories, IE how they got their powers and so on.

    There was an entire island of Mutants on Genosha, and that island got blown the hell up killing a lot of Mutants. Later on Scarlet Witch did her thing.

    Marvel wanted to bring it back to the 60s - 80s when there weren't that many Mutants. In the 90s-00s there were millions. MILLIONS...

    So yeah they've been playing the endangered species card for a while now.

    Another reason behind all of this was it wasn't long ago that the entire Marvel Universe was really focused on the X-Men comics. In the 60s it was Fantastic Four, not sure about the 70s but 80s and 90s were really all about the X-Men. Major crossovers like Inferno and Onslaught flowed out of the X books. Marvel wanted to stop this and make the Avengers comics the focus of the Universe. Just like Justice League is the focus of the DC Universe. Adding Spider-Man and Wolverine to the Avengers was another way to accomplish that. Along with having less Mutants and stuff.

    Oh and if you want to read a good story that addresses Scarlet Witch's Mutant reducing, read Avengers The Children's Crusade. Great artwork and it serves as a nice prequel to Avengers vs. X-Men too. Hell it might even prove to be better than Avengers vs. X-Men when all is said and done. Heinberg write more comics please....

    http://marvel.com/comic_books/collection/31727/avengers_the_childrens_crusade_ohc_hardcover

    Major deaths? Nightcrawler died trying to protect Hope. There's a Nightcrawler from another dimension running around though but the regular Nightcrawler is still dead. There have been other deaths, but most of them have come back in some shape / size / form. Except for Jean (unless Jean is Hope of course).
  • blazeu25blazeu25 blaze it up Joined: Posts: 2,054
    thanks again for the info. now i wont feel lost when i read AvX. cant wait to see the fights.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    House of M isn't any worse than any of the other typical Marvel comics that people here seem to like. I actually think it's much better than average. It's a superhero story that relies more on the fun and sheer spectacle of the genre, rather than a superhero story that takes itself so seriously that it amounts to nothing more than continuity pornography.

    Out of all the event/crossover comics of the past decade, you could do a helluva whole lot worse than House of M.
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  • THE_KZATHE_KZA ayy lmao Joined: Posts: 961
    Fear Itself and Secret Invasion are examples
  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,598 mod
    House of m was meh to me but it setup alot.

    Avengers disassembled was much more enjoyable imo.

    I've love ever mega story they have done besides fear itself. Couldn't bring myself to care about it. And honestly it seems like that story had a bigger impact on the xmen than it did anyone else.

    SI was really good IMO, it just all fell together right. Also it gave me a much bigger respect for the skrulls and super skrull.
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  • SanoSano SRKSANO on PS4 Joined: Posts: 13,062 mod
    House of M isn't any worse than any of the other typical Marvel comics that people here seem to like. I actually think it's much better than average. It's a superhero story that relies more on the fun and sheer spectacle of the genre, rather than a superhero story that takes itself so seriously that it's amounts to nothing more than continuity pornography.

    Out of all the event/crossover comics of the past decade, you could do a helluva whole lot worse than House of M.

    Zeph I think we had the House of M conversation before and it's probably just an agree to disagree thing.

    I thought Fear Itself was worse than House of M, I'll give you that much.

    You really should check out Avengers The Children's Crusade because Heinberg does address (fixes) certain things that Bendis was doing at that time that added to issues people had with HoM. Like there being no Chaos Magic and Scarlet Witch just erasing Mutants all on her lonesome because she was a villain for a day or whatever. I honestly think it's a much better read than HoM and it touches on all of the things you need to know prior to jumping into AvX.

    Just my opinion of course.
  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,598 mod
    So scarlet witches mutant power is magic officially right?
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  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Zeph I think we had the House of M conversation before and it's probably just an agree to disagree thing.

    I thought Fear Itself was worse than House of M, I'll give you that much.

    You really should check out Avengers The Children's Crusade because Heinberg does address (fixes) certain things that Bendis was doing at that time that added to issues people had with HoM. Like there being no Chaos Magic and Scarlet Witch just erasing Mutants all on her lonesome because she was a villain for a day or whatever. I honestly think it's a much better read than HoM and it touches on all of the things you need to know prior to jumping into AvX.

    Just my opinion of course.

    I just read Fear Itself last week. (Found all the issues in a 50-cent bin.) I didn't like it as much as I wanted to, considering it was Fraction and Immonen. I still think Marvel's secret crisis crossover war events are a lot better than DC's, with the exception of Final Crisis.

    I'm gonna check out The Children's Crusade when I can find it for cheap because I really enjoyed the original Young Avengers story. But I don't like it whenever writers think they have to "fix" things that another writer did. Bendis' worst comic ever was that New Avengers story where he tried to explain Xorn and Magneto after Chuck Austen did some stuff in the X-Men books, and that was so totally pointless. Still, he probably started off with the noble intention of fixing a crappy story [which Austen probably wrote in the first place to fix a crappy story that Claremont wrote in New Excalibur (which Claremont wrote in the first place to fix an amazing story in New X-Men)]. Do you see how incestuous that is?

    Likewise, I don't care if Chaos Magic is real or not... It's an imaginary story. I don't care about the intricate background, character profiles, etc. prior to reading AvX... It's a comic about two superteams punching each other in the face. Do people even care if the Phoenix is coming back or not? Does it matter WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON? No. The comic is called "Avengers Vs. X-Men." Why would this comic need a detailed explanation? Are comic book readers mentally retarded or something?

    I'm sipping my Haterade right now.
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    Lol AvX doesn't need an intro. Marvel in my eyes crafts almost every story as if it's someone's first comic as much as you actually can with a 40 plus year back story.

    But this isn't my first trip to the rodeo or yours either. We could start reading at issue 5 if we wanted to with no problems.

    Like Schism, ATCC is an enjoyable read that catches you up to speed with things that are going on, but to a lot of us this isn't necessary. However to someone like Blaz, if he wants or not these are good tales that address a huge chunk of his questions.

    I still think that finding answers in anything you read is better than having anyone describe it to you on the net. Or looking up Wikipedia and stuff like that.

    As for you Zeph, you know I love you like a brother but I can't talk about House of M anymore maaang! I just want you to read something newish we can discuss!

    Fixes well, when they are good it's fine and when they are bad they are not. I guess most of the time they are bad, but not in ATCC's case. Bendis dumped on Scarlet Witch a scootch too much for my tastes making her a Magic Mutant eraser. Don't say her fake magic is fake! You made my Vision and Scarlet Witch comics cry.

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  • WishWish Joined: Posts: 24
    You do have to wonder why they felt the need to turn Wanda into such a punk, and so flimsily.

    I'm actually enjoying AvX, but how good it is in the end will depend on how much story they're willing to commit, and whether or not they're willing to have anything that matters happen. I just don't want to see a cop-out, like Galactus shows up and they have to team up to fight him and nobody wins. The Phoenix macguffin is lame, but it does pose a nice conflict - now I want to see somebody win and somebody lose.
  • NeREMIXEDNeREMIXED [S.H.] Joined: Posts: 1,954
    Final Crisis was such a cluster fuck. I still can't comprehend what went on.

    I thought the main House of M was pretty good. I read all the tie ins but they were very very boring. But I suppose they were there to give you a sense of what each characters "perfect" lives would be and how Wanda messing with their heads would cause them so much anger towards her.

    I do think it should be read to fully understand why things are headed in the direction they are with AvX. Of course it's not a necessity but again you gain a greater sense of everything when you've read it. Avengers Disassembled/House of M and Second Coming imo should be read.

    Fear Itself...caca. I seriously did not care for it. I do intend to buy the trade however just to add it to my Marvel event trades.
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    So scarlet witches mutant power is magic officially right?

    Missed this question before. Chaos Magic was re-established as being real before ATCC, ATCC just had a refresher on the subject IIRC.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    I still think that finding answers in anything you read is better than having anyone describe it to you on the net. Or looking up Wikipedia and stuff like that.

    I agree to a certain extent, but this definitely is not true in all circumstances. Having someone give you a summary of events or just looking it up on Wikipedia is far superior to the actual experience of wasting your time reading a crap comic.

    Take Xorn for example again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorn
    It takes, what, five or ten minutes to read his Wiki page? Would you rather waste ten minutes of your life reading Xorn's Wiki, or waste three hours, a lot of money, and your soul reading a bunch of crap Chuck Austen comics and The Collective arc in New Avengers? It's no choice at all, my man. Plus, the Wiki even has nuggets of the behind the scenes politics that went behind the reasoning for Marvel's editorial mandates - a story far more interesting than anything that could ever fart out of Chuck Austen's pen.

    Fact is, Wikipedia exists to save us from having to slog through mountain piles of stupid comics.
    As for you Zeph, you know I love you like a brother but I can't talk about House of M anymore maaang! I just want you to read something newish we can discuss!

    Fixes well, when they are good it's fine and when they are bad they are not. I guess most of the time they are bad, but not in ATCC's case. Bendis dumped on Scarlet Witch a scootch too much for my tastes making her a Magic Mutant eraser. Don't say her fake magic is fake! You made my Vision and Scarlet Witch comics cry.

    I don't read any new stuff. I'm behind on the times. I told you I just got around to reading Fear Itself for the first time last week. Ever since they went to $3.99 a pop (or $2.99 for 18 pages and 17 ads) I lost my excitement over serials. They broke me, bub. They broke me.

    The only new comic I bought was last week's issue of Supreme, which I'm guessing no one here gives a damn about because it doesn't have Wolverine using his claws to fight Scarlet Witch's magic (which doesn't exist).

    I also buy whatever Brubaker/Philips joint comes out on the racks... But again, the lack of Wolverine, Spider-Man, Batman, Deadpool, etc.
    Final Crisis was such a cluster fuck. I still can't comprehend what went on.

    Read the Wikipedia entry, then.
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    Carnage USA kinda had an unsatisfying conclusion. I don't think it could have ended any other way but it just felt meh
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    Joss Whedon answers who would win in a fight, Black Widow or Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Fun!

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    So far just read Fantastic Four and New Avengers.

    Fantastic Four as usual was like DAMN! Hickman got tired of beasting at Marvel's present so he decided to beast Marvel's future! :rock:

    In New Avengers Bendis did his whole talking head thing for the Avengers vs. X-Men tie-in ordeal. C'mon dude get with the prog! Do I have to send you some Dragon Ball Z DVDs man! :annoy: Lol I liked the Spider-Man and Wolverine conversation though. :rofl:

    EDIT: Caught up. Wolverine was pretty cool. I found the entire Carnage USA series to be really average except for the artwork which was my main reason for reading it.
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    I enjoyed Childrens Crusade except the last one : / ..As for Wanda iirc Strange stated it was chaos magic but her new powers that dealt with House of M saga is something to do with the life force energy, Its in the CC series.
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  • WellmanWellman Joined: Posts: 4,011
    I highly recommend Scarlet Spider, I was enjoying this series before cemented it as the best new Marvel series since Journey into Mystery hit the stage last year.

    Bah, to all this Children Crusade talk, that story let me down like a hot stacked stripper suddenly revealing toward the end of a lap dance that she had a small Johnson tucked in the g string.
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    Kaine's no Ben Reilly, but I'm planning to stick with it. They just don't ridicule Texas nearly as much as Texas deserves to be ridiculed.
  • TizocTizoc Joined: Posts: 11,406
    People still don't get what happened in Final Crisis? That book made sense to me by the 2nd time I read it. Heck anything Morrison writes makes sense on a re-read...and it becomes more enjoyable ^_^.

    Anyways, Avenging Spiderman was kickass this week, great humor and Spidey talking down Punisher was terrific.

    The new comic book for the Avengers cartoon was good too. Panther was amazing in it to boot-
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  • Kusanagi FireKusanagi Fire Joined: Posts: 52
    Seriously, Hickman? Fantastic Four was great. I really love that revelation just like the Franklin revelation shown in the previous issue of FF. It's nice to have a comic where things matter and characters are developing.

    Winter Soldier was also a good read. Really enjoying Brubaker on a solo Bucky book. New Avengers, the first AvX tie-in, seems to operate in between events shown in the main title as usual of Bendis. Not a fan of this style of "tie-ins" although I enjoyed Luke and Jessica's talk.

    And yeah, Avenging Spider-Man? Great stuff. I'm happy to have a comic of that quality follow up issue 5 with Spidey and Cap nerding it up. Can't wait to read the rest of The Omega Effect. Luckily the rest of the series should be coming out weekly.
  • akumatruniggaakumatrunigga Joined: Posts: 3,312
    House of m was meh to me but it setup alot.

    Avengers disassembled was much more enjoyable imo.

    I've love ever mega story they have done besides fear itself. Couldn't bring myself to care about it. And honestly it seems like that story had a bigger impact on the xmen than it did anyone else.

    SI was really good IMO, it just all fell together right. Also it gave me a much bigger respect for the skrulls and super skrull.
    My problem with SI is the fact that the majority of the vibranium is in Wakanda. Also it is the most common one and known in the MU. You would think the main story would be there. Yes BP/Storm kicked some ass but what if the main fleet of the skrulls showed up? But then again BP would probably figure things out sooner and the story would end quickly lol.
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