X-Men: Children of the Atom thread

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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    That wasn't any help?
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  • wolverine-masterwolverine-master Trinidad's finest Joined: Posts: 1,763
    it is, it is
    this game sounds so hard man.
    i never had to put this much effort into a game before.
    it usually comes natural to me.
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  • mvcplayermvcplayer AKA HAKIRU Joined: Posts: 390
    it is, it is
    this game sounds so hard man.
    i never had to put this much effort into a game before.
    it usually comes natural to me.

    I also thought this game is hard but it just feels like it because its not like the traditional capcom fighting games that we deal with now where everything starts off with a launcher and then simple combos like lp.,lk.,mp.,mk.,hp. the combo system is just very different which I don't mind but believe me I used to think msh's wolvi was the best out of all the games he has been but i was wrong lol he's the most powerful at cota :looney:
    Coolness. Ever get on 2df/2dfighter.com? Some nice replays up there.
    Was nice to see Hakiru and 192 fight again.

    hey sorry for cutting our last set short. I just wasn't in the mood to play that night :( let's play again soon
  • mr.hadokenmr.hadoken Old School Style For You Joined: Posts: 621
    WM, ya wolvie is alot different in this game. Go into speed mode on here and he has an infinite dash standing short,standing jab repeat. Low roundhouse, low fierce and you can two-in-one that into drill claw or super. After any of his jump moves hold back and he will go backwards making him an excellent runaway character as well. His super acts as an alpha counter as well....so it stops rush down, supers at close (such as Omgea and Cyke) etc. etc.
    Good hit...but not enough power.
  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    No prob, Hakiru. GG's.
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  • wolverine-masterwolverine-master Trinidad's finest Joined: Posts: 1,763
    hmmmmmm
    i guess i'll stop bitching and go practice.
    i'm looking at wolvie, and maybe see what the rest of them can do later.
    thanks guys, you all helped alot.

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  • hlidskjafthlidskjaft Joined: Posts: 32
    if anyone wants to play xcota on 2d just send me a visitor message. I'm terrible at it though, i just started playing, and surprisingly i found it really fun. I only know how to use omega red, sentinel a little bit.
  • NydrinNydrin SUPREME DUCKER Joined: Posts: 192
    This game is on ggpo now if anyone here doesn't know yet. Someone hook it up with the spiral combos and tricks.
    <fuson909> yeah sboquals at denjin had an unusal large amount of a2 players
    <fuson909> ed ma was like hey how do u turn blue and move fast
    <fuson909> i was like
    <fuson909> bitch
    <fuson909> are u kidding me
    <ShinJNwrk> haha
  • -JuNo--JuNo- Joined: Posts: 185
    tryin it out myself i played it a long time ago but never really got into it im givin it a try now.. sentinel and wolverine are fun to play as and sentinel is a beast :)
  • SlartibartfastSlartibartfast Game Researcher Joined: Posts: 624
    Ports?

    Sorry if this has been answered already - search hasn't been cooperating for me today.

    Is the Saturn port better than the PS1 port of this game? I have the PS1 version and have started filling-out my Saturn collection and was wondering if it was worth re-buying it. I know the vs games are much better on the Saturn but wasn't sure about COTA and MSH.
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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    Saturn port is better, but still not perfect. Lots of frames missing and some slowdown, but not nearly as bad as PS1. Same with MSH except slowdown I hear is proportionately worse.

    Nydrin, did those replays I linked you to work? If not, I'll try to get them converted to video.
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  • wolverine-masterwolverine-master Trinidad's finest Joined: Posts: 1,763
    jedah, are you back?
    i've been wanting to talk with you.
    can you message me or call, please.
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  • NydrinNydrin SUPREME DUCKER Joined: Posts: 192
    Saturn port is better, but still not perfect. Lots of frames missing and some slowdown, but not nearly as bad as PS1. Same with MSH except slowdown I hear is proportionately worse.

    Nydrin, did those replays I linked you to work? If not, I'll try to get them converted to video.

    I couldn't get it to work unfortunately. :(

    edit: scratch that, got it to work now but without sound. (which is fine)
    <fuson909> yeah sboquals at denjin had an unusal large amount of a2 players
    <fuson909> ed ma was like hey how do u turn blue and move fast
    <fuson909> i was like
    <fuson909> bitch
    <fuson909> are u kidding me
    <ShinJNwrk> haha
  • SIMPLY_HUGOSIMPLY_HUGO 1 infraction away :( Joined: Posts: 1,575
    Ice beam! Ice beam!!

    Arctic attack!!!
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  • wolverine-masterwolverine-master Trinidad's finest Joined: Posts: 1,763
    hey jedah...its about time they see what we've been up to.
    ok cota fans...get crazy while i present to you:
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    sort of off topic...you can play mame games online?

    Is it laggy? this sounds like the greatest thing ever....
  • DeadlyRave-NeoDeadlyRave-Neo Joined: Posts: 500
    sort of off topic...you can play mame games online?

    Is it laggy? this sounds like the greatest thing ever....

    yeah............:confused:
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  • JamRockJamRock Joined: Posts: 64
    I was just wonderin....how the hell do you beat magneto cause I can never beat him and also is this combo an infinite wit storm cause I only got up to 15 hits but the combo is 2 or 3 c.lk into a high lightning attack and start all over again...is this rlly an infinite??
  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    Whenever you juggle/hit magneto out the air, he recovers with j.HP. You can abuse this to reset him endlessly. Try with Cyclops, get under him in the corner and jab gene splice away. If he starts his bubble, super it away then try to repeat.

    Combos tend to depend on who you're doing them on, characters have some different pushback/recovery properties. Who were you doing it on?
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  • JamRockJamRock Joined: Posts: 64
    I was doing the combo on magneto in the corner
  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    c. MP xx Hard Lightning Attack is easier/more consistent.

    A funny thing happens with Storm's chained c.LKs. If timed right, you can "stand cancel" one of them, so that the hit comes out but you have zero recovery (it'll almost look like Storm hit them with nothing). If you do this, c.lk x2~3 (stand) Hard LA will combo (and can infinite), as it's faster.
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  • Buster CannonBuster Cannon Cool head, heated heart Joined: Posts: 3,446
    This game is actually pretty fun to play! I'm using Iceman, but I'm interested in learning more about him. HP, HK, HP Ice Beam is more or less a bread and butter combo after a MP throw, and Arctic Attack works after a throw as well. His dash is also quite useful on offense and defense. Any other tips for playing him?
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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    Jump/superjump down+HP, HK (empty chain). The falling ice rock (d+hp) can make it hard for people to advance on or under you. The Normal jump version can loop combo on alot of standing characters (the jump down+hp rock can be blocked low though).

    Your anti airs (and launchers) are stand HK (if they're in front/above), crouch HK (directly above) and in some cases s.MK (very fast). Stand HK is also good for ground control. If they get pass that and you're in recovery, superjump away.


    Iceman's an interesting mix of rushdown and space control, just got to be careful when committing to his slow specials. Avalanche (same p + k) has great dizzy power though.
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  • SiDSiD Joined: Posts: 205
    great game, but damn.. when you play on a competitive level the very easy dizzies ruin the game..
    SiD
  • wolverine-masterwolverine-master Trinidad's finest Joined: Posts: 1,763
    jedah is the shit.
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,200
    Anyone got strats for Akuma in this game? I can pick this up for Saturn easy and he's the only character I care to play....
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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    SiD - Turn down the damage, doesn't stop the dizzy issue but at least it hurts less ;)

    W.M that's a kickass av.

    Akuma can dizzy just about anyone with hard hit xx hurricane kick if the special hits twice after that. Air fireballs and hurricanes build meter extremely fast. Akuma's hands with his air fireball are unblockable too. If block state wasn't already triggered, they won't cause it if they touch. Ground fireballs are kinda sucky so air is what you mostly wanna use.

    DP super is instant and 100% invincible for most of it, so it makes a great guard cancel. Super fireball is unblockable if someone lands on it.

    The counter DP special (hcb + p, uses meter) catches a ton of stuff that hits above foot level. It'll catch Omega Strikes, Shoulder charges, Drill Claws... It actually won't catch lightning attacks or any of storm's punches (electric charge I guess)

    Tiger knee his fierce SRK (toward, tiger knee motion) and it'll go to the ceiling. Useless in a ground combo (they won't go that high) but good against those trying to stay at the top of the screen (hi Storm).


    Downsides - he takes damage like a bitch, bounces off the ground for a really long time when thrown, and bounces strangely off Omega Red's ground coils thrown right (long enough to get a super after).

    There's also an issue with his switching chain.. (zigzag1 when standing, zigzag2 when crouching), gives him the ability to stand cancel light attacks, so c.lk, walk, repeat is an infinite, if you can time it right about 90 times. Worst part is it's a blockstun infinite too, which makes him broken beyond belief. Although in actual gameplay, despite people using it, he isn't unbeatable by any means.
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,200
    SiD - Turn down the damage, doesn't stop the dizzy issue but at least it hurts less ;)

    W.M that's a kickass av.

    Akuma can dizzy just about anyone with hard hit xx hurricane kick if the special hits twice after that. Air fireballs and hurricanes build meter extremely fast. Akuma's hands with his air fireball are unblockable too. If block state wasn't already triggered, they won't cause it if they touch. Ground fireballs are kinda sucky so air is what you mostly wanna use.

    DP super is instant and 100% invincible for most of it, so it makes a great guard cancel. Super fireball is unblockable if someone lands on it.

    The counter DP special (hcb + p, uses meter) catches a ton of stuff that hits above foot level. It'll catch Omega Strikes, Shoulder charges, Drill Claws... It actually won't catch lightning attacks or any of storm's punches (electric charge I guess)

    Tiger knee his fierce SRK (toward, tiger knee motion) and it'll go to the ceiling. Useless in a ground combo (they won't go that high) but good against those trying to stay at the top of the screen (hi Storm).


    Downsides - he takes damage like a bitch, bounces off the ground for a really long time when thrown, and bounces strangely off Omega Red's ground coils thrown right (long enough to get a super after).

    There's also an issue with his switching chain.. (zigzag1 when standing, zigzag2 when crouching), gives him the ability to stand cancel light attacks, so c.lk, walk, repeat is an infinite, if you can time it right about 90 times. Worst part is it's a blockstun infinite too, which makes him broken beyond belief. Although in actual gameplay, despite people using it, he isn't unbeatable by any means.

    Thanks. a few bnb combos?

    (I think they were mentioned earlier in the thread, but I'm too lazy to look) and good/bad match-ups?
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  • IapetusIapetus Strategic Planning Joined: Posts: 408
    "Let's attack aggressively!"

    In my journey to become a less *****y FG player, I have noticed while playing I have no idea how to attack. Yes, I am aware you have to press buttons (der der) but I have no idea how to do it correctly in way that isn't like a retard coming towards you. This is my problem in all games but it is pretty prevalent in COTA.

    So let's take Wolvie vs Wolvie - a matchup that seems retarded not to understand, but since my acumen sucks, I need help. How do I rush in without being an idiot? How do I turtle without getting screwed? I am not looking for combos here, more like patterns I should watch for and such. Yes I know slide and fierce is godly, but how do I get in without being at disadvantage after block stun?

    P.S. - In ST I am slowly learning when to hold block and not in order to get out of (b)lock stun. Any tips on how do that in this game? Much appreciated.

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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    Some Akuma combos:

    Anywhere-
    Airthrow (bounce), Airthrow, MK or HK hurricane (if it hits twice, it'll dizzy)

    c.LK, c.MK, c.HK xx Fireball

    Vs. Standing Characters, point blank, non-dash c.LK, jump forward HP, HP air fireball (actually hits Wolverine, but not worth effort due to low damage)
    or
    s.LP, jump forward HK, HP air fireball


    Corner:
    Dash HP, c.HK, s.HP, s.HK xx any DP. There's a window to throw or juggle after, how big it is depends on how high up the combo sent them.

    Dash HK (2-hitter) xx Fireball super, jump forward MK, j.HP xx Hurricane (almost anyone up to heavyweights, might miss on Wolverine)

    Random tricks:
    Knee bash throw (MK)- Midscreen, if you hold forward, they'll flip away. If you threw with Back + MK, they'll land near you (and always near in the corner). Heavier characters land fast and have little time to get anything out, leaving them vulnerable to another throw. They can, however, try to throw you first or jump out.

    Dash combo xx Hurricane - With the dash momentum, even if it doesn't combo, the hurricane kick is going to be bouncing them around, potentially into a cross up situation.
    ----
    Regarding Wolv vs Wolv and mid/long range attacks, usually whatever came out second is going to win (or at worst, still trade). Drill claw is almost always going to beat s.HP if the tip of the claw touches. It'll trade if the HP hits at a point where the hand is inside the "X" slash.

    This should give you an idea of when things trade and when things get stuffed.


    Some block strings -
    - c.HK, c.LP (once or twice), repeat, can also do a s.MP after the kick and crouch cancel the MP into another kick.
    - c.LK, jump d+HK xx j.LP.
    - speedup and just about anything
    - c.LK, Slide xx SJ, j. d+HK stomp over their head, XX drill claw.
    and of course dashing HPs to poke and drill claws. Sometimes it takes being a little psychic, knowing when to SJ and drill claw up or straight ahead if they try to SJ over your ground game(or forcing them into it).

    On defense -
    Jumping backwards and SJ'ing out is typically your best bet if you're pinned in the corner and you don't have meter to GC Super. You also can jab through strings that are too slow, and s.HK through overhead attempts that are too slow, or tornado claw through obvious drill claws. Jumpins that aren't "deep" enough and close block string links done too slowly can typically be thrown through.
    but how do I get in without being at disadvantage after block stun?
    Their blockstun? Straight drill claw, SJ and drill claw down diagonal, or SJ stomp on their head with down drill claw. If you're far enough away (out of s.HP range), stomp cancel and run back in, but always be ready to SJ backwards on a dime like it's your block button.. or run up and block.
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  • wolverine-masterwolverine-master Trinidad's finest Joined: Posts: 1,763
    this thread has been quiet for awhile now.
    and today, NO!, 5 mins ago, i had an epiphany.
    i dont think yall canadians know about this, but here in the u.s, rivalry is tough between the east and west coast.
    mostly in the fighting game genre.
    we dont hype it as much...maybe we should.
    see, vic got his thing going on...gootecks, etc..
    no one in ny or canada got anything major going on.
    names like lmx, joker, shiro and mkp ring names over here....but where else are you guys known?
    my point is, lets get out there.
    i'm obviously ny's mouth piece, but i'm far from the best.
    fuck ny vs canada....lets hype usa vs canada.
    maybe unknown canadian players will show their face.

    seriously, look at it.
    it will sell...it will bring old faces back.
    TEAM USA: madhatter, jason, omar, buckethead, muthafuckaaaa, me, vic, justin, arturo, stormqueen, battousai, kourin.

    TEAM BACON: joker, shiro, sid, cb, mkp, lmx, aznretro, 1hit, shiro's girl(to fight our female gamers).

    see what i'm saying people.
    i can get this started if yall with it.
    tomorrow, i can get a vid of some of the guys calling out canada...(no beef, just hypeness)
    i've been making alot of moves lately...i got alot of ideas.
    if everyone here is serious about xvsf, then lets break the confined rules of this thread and lets step out.
    lets make our own tourney....we have big names in this community.
    call it FIGHTER'S REVENGE.
    xvsf vs mvc2 vs cota vs msh vs cvs2....how many of yall play those?
    are you guys down for an xvsf combotition?
    do these ideas sound good?
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  • DeadlyRave-NeoDeadlyRave-Neo Joined: Posts: 500
    heres a funny vid
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,200
    heres a funny vid

    Deadly Rave, i can get this shipped for Saturn, would you be willing to play whenever we meet up back in GA?
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  • seasofcheese929seasofcheese929 Sonic Boob! Joined: Posts: 354
    qcf light punch.
    sitting duck for many frames.
    what the fuck, Iceman.
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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    Decent block and hit stun on your opponent though. Not psylocke, akuma, or wolvie lockdown but i'm sure it gives some frame advantage
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  • seasofcheese929seasofcheese929 Sonic Boob! Joined: Posts: 354
    Iceman's qcf lp on the ground won't hit a damn thing.
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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    I must be confusing it with mp ice beam. lp version looks like it should otg alright. I'll check next time i pick him heh
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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    Anyone know Japanese and interested in taking a crack at this?

    http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Dice/5286/xmugen.htm

    GeoCities US was killed off by Yahoo recently, and don't know how soon until GeoCities Japan is next.

    Yamamoto's page might have some interesting stuff too -
    http://www.vc-net.ne.jp/~yamamoto/

    And Bakufu (who is on 2df/ggpo) has a blog - http://gtech.3418.jp/wiki/index.php?COTA
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  • GWMadHatterGWMadHatter The Lone Wolf Joined: Posts: 104
    Good to be back wasn't feeling well these days.But I can translate what the geocities one means.With google translate it goes into title permanent and immediate death combo.He explains the characters 100% combos, and what situations you can do them in it's actually interesting .He goes into high detail from what works and at what point he also explains I think glitches.He kinda reminds me of you jedah ministry.

    And Bakufu explains that colossus and wolverine is the strongest talking about dmg and combos and the game system,He also links his 2df replays.Yamamoto has a replay of magneto doing a combo I believe but can't see it cause no Realplayer codec.
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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    Interesting stuff. The web translator i used says that iceman is the strongest character in thoery, but in reality there is no such thing? i dunno i need to learn japanese already. Also
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