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  • Ki ShimaKi Shima This tiger isn't dead.... Joined: Posts: 8,310
    Ki Shima wrote: »
    Ki Shima wrote: »
    remember when everyone knew years ago NOBODY in fiction was touching anyone in DBZ? yeah I'm thinking it's more interesting this way actually, if Toriyama nerfed them on purpose I have respect for that, and he probably did

    Nigga, they are universe busters now. If the creep continues, EoS Goku will be like this:

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    yeah they didn't even mention superman grew bigger than planets as well. amazing art

    thats why I could never see superman as legit, his powers are so random. dude is being hurt by cars thrown at him, bleeding from being attacked by magical beings; magical beings basically making him look like a normal man. dude punching and shit like he's in WWE. nah man fuck that guy. make the Z fighters look broken, we watched them actually work hard for it

    DB has some of the dumbest power creeps in shonen history. The power levels scaled logically in DB but went to shit in DBZ. At least superman has some effort to scientifically explain his powers, goku and everyone else just develops and a new transformation "just because."

    Also why did they say goku turned into a super saiyan when clearly he has electric sparks all around him when he fought that Kai...the animators gotta be more consistent with that shit.

    They just mentioned what it is "it's a super saiyan" you're not paying attention to their description.

    Superman is a western story so they have western viewpoint of the reality behind his abilities. We all know science changes too so let's see in a few decades how superman's scientific explanations sound. This happened to john carter so expect the same for superman
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  • jebopjebop Joined: Posts: 6,890
    dab00g wrote: »
    The blue sparks signal ssj2. Against zumasu he was at first level. It was pretty telling about the training

    Where goop vegetta was a harder fight

    He was SSJ2 against Zamasu. You could clearly see the blue sparks around his golden aura when he powered up.

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    That is fake, photoshop, you're lying, Santa is real, etc etc
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  • DatSpardaUserDatSpardaUser Joined: Posts: 2,532
    Ki Shima wrote: »
    Ki Shima wrote: »
    remember when everyone knew years ago NOBODY in fiction was touching anyone in DBZ? yeah I'm thinking it's more interesting this way actually, if Toriyama nerfed them on purpose I have respect for that, and he probably did

    Nigga, they are universe busters now. If the creep continues, EoS Goku will be like this:

    4688662-7746391696-45601.jpg

    yeah they didn't even mention superman grew bigger than planets as well. amazing art

    thats why I could never see superman as legit, his powers are so random. dude is being hurt by cars thrown at him, bleeding from being attacked by magical beings; magical beings basically making him look like a normal man. dude punching and shit like he's in WWE. nah man fuck that guy. make the Z fighters look broken, we watched them actually work hard for it

    DB has some of the dumbest power creeps in shonen history. The power levels scaled logically in DB but went to shit in DBZ. At least superman has some effort to scientifically explain his powers, goku and everyone else just develops and a new transformation "just because."

    Also why did they say goku turned into a super saiyan when clearly he has electric sparks all around him when he fought that Kai...the animators gotta be more consistent with that shit.

    Science hand wavy bullshit is still bullshit.
    I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
  • JLALloydJLALloyd Joined: Posts: 743
    Goku vs Zamasu wasn't a special fight but man the music is fucking good and Nozawa still has a lot of energy in her voice. The music that starts when goku blocks Zamasu back hand is great, I think it played already in a Black scene.

  • DatSpardaUserDatSpardaUser Joined: Posts: 2,532
    I really like they brought the very thick lightning from the manga to the anime with Super. It's a small detail, but it's nice to see those little bits being brought over here and there.

    Beerus smirking when his boy surprises Gowasu is great as well.
    I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,874
    edited August 2016
    I found a channel that has a shitload of DB-DBZ moments in Japanese and I know it's run by one of you "TEH DUB IS TEH ONLY WAI!" fegs cause he posts this vid:



    " A RARE moment the dub did right" XD
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,782
    The original Funimation dub sucks. It got better with the Uncut and Kai versions, but the original JP score and voices will always be the best.

    Don't even start this argument again.
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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,874
    po pimpus wrote: »

    Don't even start this argument again.

    Slow your roll nigga. I just thought what he said was funny.
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  • WolfkillerWolfkiller Equal Opportunity Destroyer Joined: Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    That flip kick to the face was fucking awesome. Show needs more fun fight choreography like this and the Return Of F minion battle.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,782
    Newsflash! You're not supposed to take anything in DB all that seriously outside the fighting.

    Nozawa portrays a far, far greater range of emotion and acting than anything Jewish Superman voice Schemmel's done.

    Go back to bitching about Gohan having a happy ending to his character arc because he's a good husband and father and isn't abandoning his family to go around blowing up planets.
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  • DatSpardaUserDatSpardaUser Joined: Posts: 2,532
    Malaysian dub is 3 tiers above japanese

    That ain't a fair comparison. Malaysian dub is the ST Akuma of DB dubs, with Japanese being O.Sagat.
    I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 8,623
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Newsflash! You're not supposed to take anything in DB all that seriously outside the fighting.

    Nozawa portrays a far, far greater range of emotion and acting than anything Jewish Superman voice Schemmel's done.

    Go back to bitching about Gohan having a happy ending to his character arc because he's a good husband and father and isn't abandoning his family to go around blowing up planets.

    I don't know if I'd consider relying on Vegeta and Goku excellent parenting.

  • AlphaCharlieAlphaCharlie Joined: Posts: 1,061
    edited August 2016
    I found a channel that has a shitload of DB-DBZ moments in Japanese and I know it's run by one of you "TEH DUB IS TEH ONLY WAI!" fegs cause he posts this vid:



    " A RARE moment the dub did right" XD


    I'm sorry you can't appreciate greatness. The awesome V.A's along with Falconer's great music? The original funimation dub of DBZ is legendary.

    po pimpus wrote: »
    The original Funimation dub sucks. It got better with the Uncut and Kai versions, but the original JP score and voices will always be the best.

    Don't even start this argument again.


    Yes. Because there is no argument.

    Falconer's SSJ3 theme alone > Japanese DBZ's entire score....


    Greatness:
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,034
    MasakoX > Schemmel > Nozawa

    But for music, yes JP > US for the most part.

    Vegeta's theme is still godlike tho
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  • FoolinfectionFoolinfection Big fish in a little pond 4 LIFE Joined: Posts: 2,207
    And the dbz thread cycle starts once again....
    Welcome to the internet. God help you if you have an opinion.

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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,874
    And the dbz thread cycle starts once again....

    Po is just easily triggered
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  • DatSpardaUserDatSpardaUser Joined: Posts: 2,532

    You can say what you want about the NA dub but that goku sounds confident, he sounds powerful and like a man you can believe has what it takes to fight the foes he does. He sounds appropriate to his age and his experience. Do you honestly see most 40 something year old men sounding identical to their childhood self...they grow up and I think the NA goku sounds like a grown up legitimate hero. I'm a purist in most cases but in this situation having goku sound like a kid is just dumb. If gohan can sound more his age then why can't goku, plz have a seat.

    Congrats, you dumbed down the character in order to fit the bastarderized version of DB that the US got. Bonus for being completely ignorant about what you are talking about because even for Kid Goku, Gohan and Goten, Nozawa does different voices for each. Add in Bardock, Adult Goku, SSJ4 Goku, Teen Goten, Adult Gohan and now Black. Every single one of those has a unique flair to the voice.

    Don't project what you want the character to be and complain about what he actually is. That's beyond retarded.
    I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
  • jebopjebop Joined: Posts: 6,890
    Don't mention Faulconer in this thread, the weebs don't like it.
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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,782
    CASIO KEYBOARD MAN™

    Fixed.
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  • FlameAngelZFlameAngelZ I'm gonna fuck you up! Joined: Posts: 972
    Guys I have the following questions:

    Was Gohan SSJ or SSJ2 vs Dabura?

    Who would win between SSJ3 Goku and Mystic Gohan?

    Who is stronger between Super Buu and Kid Buu?

    These questions, along with the superior version of DBZ has plagued humanity for years, with many more to come.

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  • DatSpardaUserDatSpardaUser Joined: Posts: 2,532
    Wasted wrote: »

    You can say what you want about the NA dub but that goku sounds confident, he sounds powerful and like a man you can believe has what it takes to fight the foes he does. He sounds appropriate to his age and his experience. Do you honestly see most 40 something year old men sounding identical to their childhood self...they grow up and I think the NA goku sounds like a grown up legitimate hero. I'm a purist in most cases but in this situation having goku sound like a kid is just dumb. If gohan can sound more his age then why can't goku, plz have a seat.

    Congrats, you dumbed down the character in order to fit the bastarderized version of DB that the US got. Bonus for being completely ignorant about what you are talking about because even for Kid Goku, Gohan and Goten, Nozawa does different voices for each. Add in Bardock, Adult Goku, SSJ4 Goku, Teen Goten, Adult Gohan and now Black. Every single one of those has a unique flair to the voice.

    Don't project what you want the character to be and complain about what he actually is. That's beyond retarded.

    Schemmel does King Kai in addition to Goku. knows how to play different characters.

    Your analysis of Nozawa is irrelevant, Schemmel doesn't play the entire Son Clan.

    It's not Schemmel's fault for the characterisation of US Goku. He is an actor, nothing more.

    Schemmel's Kaio is god awful though. Like, really, really bad. People mostly talk about Goku, but Kaio and Roshi are truly terrible with no real redeeming qualities.

    Why is my quick note on how many character's voice is irrelevant though? THe poster mentioned that Goku sounds exactly the same as a kid and adult and that's just flat out wrong.

    The voice, especially tone, is inherently tied in to the characterization. You really can't disasociate one with the other, especially this late in the game. I give him a pass for the OG dub because the scripts Funimation had were beyond salvaging so they had to make up, but next to none of the nuances of Goku are captured in Kai or newer material and that's not on the writing, but on the VA and the voice director. Unless you believe he has no input whatsoever on the character he has been voicing over a decade.
    I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,034
    edited August 2016
    Goku doesn't have nuance. He's a savant.

    Whatever sway he may or may not have doesn't matter. He's not the director.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,034
    Why is my quick note on how many character's voice is irrelevant though? THe poster mentioned that Goku sounds exactly the same as a kid and adult and that's just flat out wrong.

    The difference between Nozawa's Goku, Gohan or Goten is more about actual vocal range. Her adult Goku DOES sound almost as high-pitched as her Kid Goku, Gohan or Goten.

    Compare that to say, MasakoX's Goku and Gohan. While his performance isn't official, his is a much more obvious distinction of voices than Nozawa.

    Yes, she can differentiate them in the characterisation, but the voice she uses is almost identical between them.
    SFV: Ken, with THAT ORANGE COSTUME

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  • JLALloydJLALloyd Joined: Posts: 743
    edited August 2016
    Ill never forget the first time I played Budokai on PS2, it was the first time we had to play with the US voices here in France and man that was so bad. I was a kid and thought perfect Cell sounded like a president (
    seriously... "Ok planet give me that stupid energy... This is were it ends. Huuuuuuuuuh" no please...
    ), teen Gohan like an adult... It didn't feel like Dragon Ball at all for me.
    I was used to the JAP voices because in the French dub they left most of the shoutings untouched. But yeah I guess if you grew up to this you can actually like the US dub... For me you missed a lot of DB's charm with the voices and OST.
  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,778
    Besides we all know spanish goku is best goku
  • DrellyFishDrellyFish Joined: Posts: 4,459
    Eh Im used to JP Goku. A long time ago that shit threw me off. But it fits for how he is in the JP version. I know its kiddy and blah blah but thats what nigga acts like. Im trying to imagine Goku with a man voice and I can think of is those hella deep JP voices which wouldnt fit

    JP Goku and US Goku sound right for their respective portrayals imo.