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  • Rhio2kRhio2k Senior Member Joined: Posts: 11,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    , but when they make stupid-ass mistakes like that when writing the script, I get rather annoyed. I'm just glad that they treat their other anime licenses with more respect now, because I believe they'll do a great job with One Piece.


    I still believe they'll screw it up somehow. Everyone seems to try to kid-ify One Piece. Even the japanese-made fighting games are super-deformed (which is why I'll never play them).
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    Much obliged, my good man!

    How about them Android Saga plot holes, huh?

    Thanks to the dynamic duo of Terry Klassen and Christopher Neel, Tao Pie-Pie was supposedly a general in the Red Ribbon Army and Dr. Gero was the mastermind of the whole thing! Oh, and Bulma knew Goku ever since he was five.

    Sure, those mistakes didn't carry over to the Dragon Ball (Klassen and Neel were long gone by then), but what's done is, unfortunately, done.

    I can tolerate the DBZ dub, but when they make stupid-ass mistakes like that when writing the script, I get rather annoyed. I'm just glad that they treat their other anime licenses with more respect now, because I believe they'll do a great job with One Piece.

    Well, shit... ANY company would do, as long as it's not 4Kids!

    wat pot holes:lol:
    I actaully didn't notice any big ones in the cell/andriod saga so wat r some :bgrin:
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  • Autocrat1Autocrat1 BRING ON HALF-LIFE 3 Joined: Posts: 3,408
    wat pot holes:lol:
    I actaully didn't notice any big ones in the cell/andriod saga so wat r some :bgrin:
    -SSJ2 Gohan killed 8 Cell Jr.s...Cell only shat 7 of them (1 for each remaining Z Fighter - Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, Piccolo, Goku, Trunks and Vegeta)

    -Cell gets entire upper torso blowed da fok up by Goku, but comes back to life. When Cell self-destructed and came back to life (again) later, he mentioned that as long as one cell in his head exists, he becomes immortal, therefore refuting the former argument.
  • semijuggalosemijuggalo Joined: Posts: 577
    Ted Cole was a great voice actor for Yamcha, but he sucked ass as #17 in the Ocean dub of later episodes.

    Anyway, regarding the videogames......

    I can't believe it took them so long to make DBZ games that don't totally suck! However, it seemed as if Webfoot Technologies were hellbent on perpetuate that fact when they made the first 'Legacy of Goku' game and that disgraceful fighting game, 'Taiketsu'!

    Heh, Frieza caresses his balls... It's even MORE inappropriate the more you think about it!!
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    -SSJ2 Gohan killed 8 Cell Jr.s...Cell only shat 7 of them (1 for each remaining Z Fighter - Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, Piccolo, Goku, Trunks and Vegeta)

    -Cell gets entire upper torso blowed da fok up by Goku, but comes back to life. When Cell self-destructed and came back to life (again) later, he mentioned that as long as one cell in his head exists, he becomes immortal, therefore refuting the former argument.

    :lol: I though he spat out 8 one for each fighter and 2 for one of them (goku or Vegeta or Trunks) but I could be wrong b/c I haven't seen that episode/s in a while or maybe he spat one off camera :lol: .

    As for the cell thing that made sense to me b/c he originally came from a single cell that had all of the warriors in it and he does have piccolo's cells so that made sense to me that he could regenerate most of his body at a much faster rate after he absorbed 17 and 18. So you basically had to destroy all of his cells so when Goku destroyed his upper torso he still had enough cell and energy to regenerate himself so he wasn't dead then and Goku also knew this too b/c he knew it wasn't over.

    As far as cell saying he's immortal that's just basically him smack talking like freeza or vegeta would do although it's not really true.

    :bgrin: Although I gotta say the Buu Saga definitely had some plot holes and GT big time. :rofl:
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    GT sucks massive goat balls but is A Hero's Legacy worth checking out? They have it at my fye store for $7.99.

    Toriyama actually created that plot hole about Cell needing to have all of his Cells destroyed, and then saying as long as the core remains in his head, he'll survive. Same thing is said in the manga.
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    <---Goku's been through a hell of a lot of voice changes.
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  • Autocrat1Autocrat1 BRING ON HALF-LIFE 3 Joined: Posts: 3,408
    GT sucks massive goat balls but is A Hero's Legacy worth checking out? They have it at my fye store for $7.99.
    Hell no.

    Goku Jr. is one annoying beeyotch.
  • Batman77Batman77 Mr. D-Pad Man Joined: Posts: 1,170
    GT sucks massive goat balls but is A Hero's Legacy worth checking out? They have it at my fye store for $7.99.

    Toriyama actually created that plot hole about Cell needing to have all of his Cells destroyed, and then saying as long as the core remains in his head, he'll survive. Same thing is said in the manga.

    :lol: I'm not fully understanding how cell needing all his cells (or his mayne cell) destroyed when he's made from a single cell (that have other people's in it) is a plot hole but it's all good :bgrin: I thought they explain it before that happened but if I'm wrong O well. :razzy:

    but as far as the buu saga goes I really don't understand how buu goes from fat to a skinny brown one that eats him then looks more normal (Super buu) then they take the fat buu out and then he turns into Kid Buu :wtf: that to me made no sense.

    fat + skinny = normal/super
    normal/super - fat = kid?

    :lol: that just doesn't add or minus right
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    but as far as the buu saga goes I really don't understand how buu goes from fat to a skinny brown one that eats him then looks more normal (Super buu) then they take the fat buu out and then he turns into Kid Buu that to me made no sense.

    fat + skinny = normal/super
    normal/super - fat = kid?

    that just doesn't add or minus right

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    :lol: you know I read it all and it still doesn't make full sense. I knew about this info before but no matter how hard I try it doesn't make sense. you pretty much have to use the terminator 3 excuse of "it just happens" and leave the explanation and reasoning out the window :lol:
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  • MrQuotesMrQuotes WOLFFYYYYY!!! Joined: Posts: 2,025
    as badly drawn out as DBZ was by the time it got to buu saga, i have to admit kid buu was one of my all time favorite characters. all business and no bullshit, he comes back to being and whats the first thing he does? blows up earth. no dialogue, no buildup, just ggpo earth, kid buu accomplishes what every enemy has tried to do for 350+ episodes
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  • semijuggalosemijuggalo Joined: Posts: 577
    Here's a little bit of trivia...

    According to Trunks, the Androids appeared on May 12th. However, when you watch Terminator 1 again, notice that Kyle Reese was sent back to May 12th, 1984.

    Coincidence? I think not. Especially, when you think about Trunks's filler flashback, which featured him walking through a rundown building, occupied by crying women and children, as well as men sporting Capsule Corp. jackets and swords. Can you say "human resistance base scene"? It even ends with #17 and #18 barging in and shooting up the place!

    Well, #17 only fired off a single shot from a handgun, but you get the idea.

    Anyway, my point is that Terminator was obviously a big influence on Toriyama when creating the Androids Saga.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,580
    <---Goku's been through a hell of a lot of voice changes.

    LMFAO @ the Unknown voice...oh god.....oh man..i'm dying..please..oh god...lmfao..
  • ReggieHadokenReggieHadoken Power Up Joined: Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    as badly drawn out as DBZ was by the time it got to buu saga, i have to admit kid buu was one of my all time favorite characters. all business and no bullshit, he comes back to being and whats the first thing he does? blows up earth. no dialogue, no buildup, just ggpo earth, kid buu accomplishes what every enemy has tried to do for 350+ episodes

    Oh I love Kid Buu. One of my fav DBZ villians right after Cell. In a way, Kid Buu is like Kefka. How many villians in Final Fantasy have tried to destroy/take over the world and fail. Kefka actually succeeded in destroying the world. Kid Buu succeeded in blowing up the planet.

    T2 influenced Toriyama-San for the Android Saga? Cool beans.:lovin: I love that saga.
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    T2 influenced Toriyama-San for the Android Saga? Cool beans.:lovin: I love that saga.

    More like T1 influenced the Androids Saga.
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    I prefer Super Buu to Kid Buu.

    Kid Buu was a savage that killed everything in his path, Super Buu was the first one to basically come to Kami's look out, then while bored eliminated most of the world's population, like he was playing Duck hunt without the damn dog.
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    Here's a little bit of trivia...

    According to Trunks, the Androids appeared on May 12th. However, when you watch Terminator 1 again, notice that Kyle Reese was sent back to May 12th, 1984.

    Coincidence? I think not. Especially, when you think about Trunks's filler flashback, which featured him walking through a rundown building, occupied by crying women and children, as well as men sporting Capsule Corp. jackets and swords. Can you say "human resistance base scene"? It even ends with #17 and #18 barging in and shooting up the place!

    Well, #17 only fired off a single shot from a handgun, but you get the idea.

    Anyway, my point is that Terminator was obviously a big influence on Toriyama when creating the Androids Saga.

    :lol: well that's a good wait no great movie to take ideas from so I'm not bothered at all if he did take the idea from it :tup:

    as for Kid Buu although it makes no sense how you get Kid Buu from super buu :rofl: but thinnking back on it that part of the saga was cool b/c it was straight to the point but it took way to long to get to something like that. I do like the fact that vegeta couldn't beat him but kept coming at him like a savage. But wat I don't like is Goku beating him w/ the spirit bomb b/c by that time I just got tired of him using that on just about every major villain b/c by then it was just played out and it takes way too long to do.

    that's another reason why I like the android/cell saga better b/c goku doesn't beat cell or finishes him off, heck I don't think Goku beat anybody for that whole season :lol: giving others like piccolo and tein and gohan and others a chance to shine :cool:
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    I loved GT, but more so the latter half when the fighting kicked in. SSJ4 design > Yellow haired variations of the same shit for SSJ1-3.

    Also, them Dragons were awesome.
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    :lol:so wat's the next DBZ game to come out? and when does it come out? :smile:
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    My fav saga could be the Android/Cell Saga. Goku was outta of action for a while so we got to see some other characters shine like Piccolo beasting on first stage Cell, the AWESOME Piccolo vs. 17 fight (which should be airing on Toonami very soon) and Tien held off 2nd stage Cell so 16 and 18 could escape. And then you've got Gohan in SS2 form beating the crap out of the Cell Jrs. without even trying.

    Speaking of Gohan in SS2 form, I know Goku coached Gohan with his Kamehameha beam battle with Cell. Now it normally takes two hands to do the Kamehameha Wave but Gohan did it with one hand. I've been wondering, did Goku actually help him shoot off the beam or was he merely there in spirit for support? Either way, that scene was freaking dope.

    My fav DBZ movies:

    History of Trunks: This movie really does a great job of showing just how messed up Trunks' future really was. And one handed Gohan was a beast. That last fight he had against 17 & 18 was awesome. In vol. 17 of the DBZ manga (which as someone already state, is where this movie originated), Trunks was already a Super Saiyan. I thought it was better in the movie that it took the sight of Gohan's lifeless body to awaken Trunks' Super Saiyan powers.

    Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan: Starts off slow but it picks up when Broly goes insane. 4 Super Saiyans and a Super Namek couldn't handle him. That scene where Broly is charging and kicks Piccolo aside like a beach ball is drop. And I can't forget when he took Goku's Kamehameha at point blank range was like "The eff was that?"

    Bojack Unbound: Bojack and his crew were RUTHLESS!! They have no sense of honor and will easily gang up on Gohan and his friends. I actually think this is my fav movie. Gohan going SS2 and easily offing two of Bojack's flunkies was awesome.
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    I think it was a more spirit thing.
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    Yeah, those movies are great, especially the Bojack movie! The fight between Tien and Trunks was pretty awesome and Reggie's right...... Bojack and his crew were fuckin' hardcore! Since the movie takes place sometime after the Cell Games, the movie could've been considered canon, if not for one thing: How in the hell did Bojack know about Goku?! Unless he could hear Gohan communicating with him from Other World, I'd chalk that up as sloppy writing.

    I was glad to see the movie on DVD, because the fansubbed version I DL'ed from Kazaa a long time ago, while decent, was apparently lacking in visual quality. What I mean is that I never noticed when Gohan and Bojack rushed each other down through the explosion caused by their final blasts. Makes sense, because I always wondered how Bojack wound up behind Gohan when he died.

    World's Strongest is another one of my absolute favorite DBZ movies. I would like Tree Of Might better, if not for the fact that the Z-Fighters were USELESS in the movie. Even Piccolo got fuckin' jobbed in that movie! Turles blasted his ass THREE separate times! Lord Slug was good, because...

    -Goku gets the piss stomped out of him
    -It was cool seeing him ransform into a proto-Super Saiyan
    -proto-SS wears off and he gets stomped some more
    -Piccolo saves the day
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    Yeah, those movies are great, especially the Bojack movie! The fight between Tien and Trunks was pretty awesome and Reggie's right...... Bojack and his crew were fuckin' hardcore! Since the movie takes place sometime after the Cell Games, the movie could've been considered canon, if not for one thing: How in the hell did Bojack know about Goku?! Unless he could hear Gohan communicating with him from Other World, I'd chalk that up as sloppy writing.

    I was glad to see the movie on DVD, because the fansubbed version I DL'ed from Kazaa a long time ago, while decent, was apparently lacking in visual quality. What I mean is that I never noticed when Gohan and Bojack rushed each other down through the explosion caused by their final blasts. Makes sense, because I always wondered how Bojack wound up behind Gohan when he died.

    World's Strongest is another one of my absolute favorite DBZ movies. I would like Tree Of Might better, if not for the fact that the Z-Fighters were USELESS in the movie. Even Piccolo got fuckin' jobbed in that movie! Turles blasted his ass THREE separate times! Lord Slug was good, because...

    -Goku gets the piss stomped out of him
    -It was cool seeing him ransform into a proto-Super Saiyan
    -proto-SS wears off and he gets stomped some more
    -Piccolo saves the day

    I've never seen World's Stronest or Tree of Might. Gotta check those out.

    Lord Slug was DOPE!! I hear some fans didn't like it. After seeing it, I don't know why they were complaining. Everyone got some time in the spot light. Goku & Krillin using Kamehamehas, Piccolo totally owning one of Lord Slug's goons (even broke his arm), Gohan own some guards, and Goku.... well does what he always does.

    Super Android 13 was another good DBZ movie.
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    Lord Slug fight ending also had a little homage to the end of the 1st Piccolo fight in DB which was cool. Definitely my favorite DBZ movie, but I've only seen like 3 of them, and Piccolo is my favorite character.
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    :lol:so wat's the next DBZ game to come out? and when does it come out? :smile:

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    anyone ever play dbz hyper dimension? that was one of the best fighters ive played, even though im sure that game is broken as hell.
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    hyper dimension's good.

    edit: haha, I found a quick for Goku. Not rly a Goku player (prefer Vegetto/Gohan), but this isn't bad imo~
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    I recently saw the Bojack movie again and I forgot how much I loved that one. It was especially good, because it started out pretty lighthearted, but once Trunks, Gohan, Krillin and Doskoi are announced for the tourney finals, everything starts going to shit and the REAL asskicking begins.

    Plus, the movie provides the viewers with a very important reminder.....

    Don't fuck with SS2 Gohan or you will be kicked in two and exploded!
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    anyone ever play dbz hyper dimension? that was one of the best fighters ive played, even though im sure that game is broken as hell.

    I loved that game. I'll never forget the day that my friend imported it and we spent hours hacking the tabs out of his SNES so that we could play it. We were both really scrubby, so the fact that it was broken didn't really make a difference. Damn, now I want to play that game again. The only thing that I preferred in the older DBZ fighters for the SNES were the beam clashes where both players just had to mash like crazy to see who would win, that was just too much fun.
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    Does anyone know when season 3 will be coming out? I wanna see frieza rape everyone
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    I wanna see frieza rape everyone

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    The series should have ended after the Frieza saga. IMO, anything exceeding Super Saiyan is overkill.

    Goku: I will fight you now Vegeta. I will turn Super Saiyan!
    Vegeta: Oh yeah? I will turn Super Saiyan 2!
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    Moot.
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    The DBZ movies are generally awful, but there are a few great ones. Movie 12 is unusually comedic for a DBZ flick, and there is one moment with Vegeta that is priceless. Movie 13 is the only one that has much in the way of a story.

    Sorry for referring to them by numbers, but I can never keep their names straight.
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    You know I'm gay

    huh?
    The series should have ended after the Frieza saga. IMO, anything exceeding Super Saiyan is overkill.

    Moot.

    I agree, but i dont mind the android/cell arc tho....but, everything after frieza wasnt as good imo
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    I loved that game. I'll never forget the day that my friend imported it and we spent hours hacking the tabs out of his SNES so that we could play it. We were both really scrubby,

    We could tell THAT just by the fact that it took you hours to do something that should take less than 3 minutes...:rofl:
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    All Im saying is that they could have made a new series based off the Future Trunks Saga...I mean if any of you played Dbz: shin budokai 2 another road it was a good story but was taken in the wrong direction..look at it like this

    -include movie villians as regular villians

    -two new sayins (trunks's sons)

    -Videl and hercule still alive....Videl training to be the strongest human..

    -hyperbolic time chamber is still up

    - Majin buu can be the first season villian

    - Supreme Kai is still alive


    throw in some ex characters and what not, a few touch ups here and there...use the animation from the buokai 3 game and you got yourself a semi-solid sries
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    We could tell THAT just by the fact that it took you hours to do something that should take less than 3 minutes...:rofl:

    We treated that like it was brain surgery, we were so worried we were going to somehow destroy the SNES or something ridiculous. :lol:
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    All Im saying is that they could have made a new series based off the Future Trunks Saga...I mean if any of you played Dbz: shin budokai 2 another road it was a good story but was taken in the wrong direction..look at it like this

    -include movie villians as regular villians

    -two new sayins (trunks's sons)

    -Videl and hercule still alive....Videl training to be the strongest human..

    -hyperbolic time chamber is still up

    - Majin buu can be the first season villian

    - Supreme Kai is still alive


    throw in some ex characters and what not, a few touch ups here and there...use the animation from the buokai 3 game and you got yourself a semi-solid sries

    -videl will never be stronger than yamcha, kurrin or tien....not matter how hard she trains
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    -videl will never be stronger than yamcha, kurrin or tien....not matter how hard she trains

    and why not? im sure she can train just as hard as they did...I was going to rule out the theory of the hyperbolic time chamber she her body would get ripped to shreds but that can be over looked...



    what do you think? Is that a great idea for a side series?
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    Does sound good. How would Majin Buu play out? Would we see Super Buu and Kid Buu or would it just be Majin Buu (considering that Super Vegeta couldn't destroy M.Buu and Trunks is not as powerful, unless he builds up his power over the saga).
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    The DBZ movies are generally awful, but there are a few great ones. Movie 12 is unusually comedic for a DBZ flick, and there is one moment with Vegeta that is priceless. Movie 13 is the only one that has much in the way of a story.

    Sorry for referring to them by numbers, but I can never keep their names straight.


    Broly movies were pretty good. . .the third was trash, but they had run out of ideas for him anyways. . Still get goosebumps whenever I see him go SSJ for the first time, and start beastin everyone. . .

    The Garlic Jr. one was decent since it actually came back,and made the only filler arc for DBZ. . .even if the way he came back made almost no sense. . .

    Bardock movie I always like. .. there was something epic about it. . .

    Trunks movie. . .had super badass grown Gohan. . .not emo pussy Gohan. . .that alone was enough

    Super Andriod 13:made no sense to me at all. ..but the voice actor for the english movie was too good. . .

    Bojack. . .really just didn't feel it. . .

    Cooler movies.. . .. first one I liked the end fight. . and the whole Cooler realizing he was to blame for his family's death. . Metal Cooler was baddass. . .but the movie sucked. .

    Janemba . . .. funniest movie and the Hilter cameo was just too fucking good. . .
  • DanSCDanSC Joined: Posts: 606
    toriyama need to work on dbz again, his other mangas after dbz sucks..he can still come up with story after DBGT storyline, like lets say after everyone die included goku, the earth is in danger again, many people got killed by invaders but theres no one strong to save the earth, so king yama have to bring back the crew back to life to save the earth and we have a brand new dbz!
  • Shadow Ace 50Shadow Ace 50 Chaos Control A hoe Joined: Posts: 2,377
    Does sound good. How would Majin Buu play out? Would we see Super Buu and Kid Buu or would it just be Majin Buu (considering that Super Vegeta couldn't destroy M.Buu and Trunks is not as powerful, unless he builds up his power over the saga).

    well..just like the original majin buu saga.. fat buu is all destroying crap and trunks tells him he is to strong to be controlled by a talking bug (red ribbon redneck) majin buu kills him and is free......then hercule befriends buu and the killing stops...heres the twist...instead of buu creating evil buu he stays the same throughout the series....until that one movie with everyone from hell coming back..

    thats all I got so far
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    well..just like the original majin buu saga.. fat buu is all destroying crap and trunks tells him he is to strong to be controlled by a talking bug (red ribbon redneck) majin buu kills him and is free......then hercule befriends buu and the killing stops...heres the twist...instead of buu creating evil buu he stays the same throughout the series....until that one movie with everyone from hell coming back..

    thats all I got so far

    So far so good. :tup:
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    I love the Cell saga, think its the best of all.
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    toriyama need to work on dbz again, his other mangas after dbz sucks..he can still come up with story after DBGT storyline, like lets say after everyone die included goku, the earth is in danger again, many people got killed by invaders but theres no one strong to save the earth, so king yama have to bring back the crew back to life to save the earth and we have a brand new dbz!
    Why would he? He wanted to end it with Goku defeating Freeza and dying on Namek. He was persuaded to stay on, and he eventually bowed out at the end of Z. They made the TV-only GT without basing it on his comics, and it was a monumental step down in quality from Z.

    After penning 42 volumes of Dragon Ball and having the creative direction pretty much constantly fucked with, why would Toriyama ever want to return to the franchise?
  • DanSCDanSC Joined: Posts: 606
    Why would he? He wanted to end it with Goku defeating Freeza and dying on Namek. He was persuaded to stay on, and he eventually bowed out at the end of Z. They made the TV-only GT without basing it on his comics, and it was a monumental step down in quality from Z.

    After penning 42 volumes of Dragon Ball and having the creative direction pretty much constantly fucked with, why would Toriyama ever want to return to the franchise?

    because first, he only good a db/dbz, and second i want more DBZ dammit (with more earth characters involve)!
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