Fighter's History Dynamite thread

kenurankenuran KerberotteJoined: Posts: 2,068
This thread is for disscussing Fighter's History Dynamite (aka Karnov's Revenge)
So what's your take on the Data East made fighter. I find it to be pretty fun and genarally solid. I'll be poping in and out to to post info for the characters

EDIT: I take it all back. Game sucks
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Tops is Karnov, followed by Lee and others in A Class..I got the tiers in my thread first page of the older one already...

    Do you want them??
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  • DA GAMEDA GAME Version 3.5 Joined: Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I posted a combo video in Fighting Game discussion.I'll be more than happy to post it up for you guys.This game brings back a lot of memories.It came out in 1994 when Darkstalkers,Super SSF2 Turbo & King Of Fighters 94 all came out.I mainly used Mizoguchi & the Tae Kwan Do chick with big legs.I didn't know a thing about combos back then but I do remember performing one with Miz that involved his super fireball & it took off almost 60% of an opponents lifebar.
  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    We will be having a tournament for this coming soon and more casuals so stay tuned!!
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  • DA GAMEDA GAME Version 3.5 Joined: Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Here is the combo video

  • FullMetalRossFullMetalRoss That Hurt! Liar... Joined: Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I thought ray was better than lee by alot? He just deals with Karnov soo much better than Lee does, plus he has great easy to get into combos.

    Don't forget the karnov warp glitch...
    Charge b,df+k~hp (thats kara cancel the charge kick into the slide)

    Primary use is to follow after a fireball, for crazy hard to block cross up shennanigans.

    Baloooooon!

    umm yeah this game is great, I wish I had people to play it against it's one of my favorites by far.
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  • NocturnalNocturnal SNK Supporter Joined: Posts: 2,977 mod
    I thought ray was better than lee by alot? He just deals with Karnov soo much better than Lee does, plus he has great easy to get into combos.

    Don't forget the karnov warp glitch...
    Charge b,df+k~hp (thats kara cancel the charge kick into the slide)

    Primary use is to follow after a fireball, for crazy hard to block cross up shennanigans.

    Baloooooon!

    umm yeah this game is great, I wish I had people to play it against it's one of my favorites by far.

    If I remember correctly the fireball becomes unblockable when the glitch happens. I think both Lee and Ray are pretty even actually. They have good combo potential and both can deal with Karnov as well.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    If I remember correctly the fireball becomes unblockable when the glitch happens. I think both Lee and Ray are pretty even actually. They have good combo potential and both can deal with Karnov as well.

    I just can't see Ray being so high in this game......I can deal with him MUCH easier than say Lee or Jean. I play Zazie,Marstorious,Mizo,and Matlock.
  • FullMetalRossFullMetalRoss That Hurt! Liar... Joined: Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    If I remember correctly the fireball becomes unblockable when the glitch happens. I think both Lee and Ray are pretty even actually. They have good combo potential and both can deal with Karnov as well.

    I thought the only reason lee did good against karnov was because he can TOD him or something? I don't quite remember. I didn't know about the fireball becoming unblocakble though. Thats pretty cool.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    I also think that Ray and Lee are pretty even....I agree..
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  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    well after many years I finaly can play this game occasionaly as my brother apperently umm got a copy to.... say... Umm.. anyway...


    Anyway I cant play that much so, a couple noob questions. Whats the timeing on mizoguchis hurricane kick links. I feel like I almost get them more when I mash then when I try and time it. So my question is it acctualy easier then im thinking? Also whats a good BB with him, right now im doing something to hurricane kick then ethier link duck p/k, to stand hp shoryuken something to that extent. Obviously he has combo video shit but in general thats what im useing. Though I do know that super shoryuken links after hurricane kick, so acctualy is that a better bread and butter assumeing you time it? Just hurricane kick link super shoryuken. Will that do more damage then lk, hp, shoryuken?


    Anyway yea I cant play that much, so im being lazy and n00bish I guess... Anyway thanks...

    More or less posting just to bump this thread. shrug
  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    Hey I'll play some casuals with you guys, but it's been a LONG time since I last played so don't expect much. Games with me would be more for fun than for competition.
    So if any one wants to go a couple than just hit me up.
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  • Slash CharlotteSlash Charlotte Chonshu's handmaid Joined: Posts: 90
    I play Marstorius and I just recently got into the game so hit me up on messengers if you wanna go a few rounds.
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  • Running WildRunning Wild Rock You Like A Hurricane Joined: Posts: 3,183
    It's an awesome game, I got into playing it a bit more awhile back and uploaded some matches I had over Thanksgiving with a buddy on Kaillera p2p. He pretty much got me into this game, otherwise I might of passed it up and stuck with just RB2.

    Here's my channel http://youtube.com/profile?user=WildTengu

    This game is a major spam fest with about as much strategy has Pong, but it's surprisingly fun. Ray, Mizoguchi, and Lee are my favorites. I'm trying to learn Yung Mie and Zazie a bit, I played DynamoWolf at a few rounds and he just floored me with both of them. Plus Yung Mie has those monsterius thighs going on like Chunners, so bonus points for her.
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  • Josh-TheFunkDOCJosh-TheFunkDOC Double Dutch! Joined: Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Eh, definitely not a spam fest, and an interesting game...

    I just play Lee right now and look for low HP -> hop punch combos. Try to link stuff from the big fireball thing and fail miserably. I'll be down for some games if anyone's interested. =)

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  • ChibiPotPieChibiPotPie Epic Joined: Posts: 347
    I use Yungmie, Feilin, Ryoko, Mastorius and Mizoguchi. Up for a game anytime.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Marsotorius is an interesting counter character to Lee and others believe it or not!
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  • 46494649 Certainly, they existed. Joined: Posts: 1,301
    Tops is Karnov, followed by Lee and others in A Class..I got the tiers in my thread first page of the older one already...

    Do you want them??

    i would say the tiers now look more like this

    s: karnov, ray
    a: zazie, jean, marstorious
    b: samchay, lee, mizoguchi, clown
    c: ryoko, matlock, yungmie
    d: feilin

    this is in the aftermath of the INH dvd, the mikado vids, and a ton of casuals with east coast players.
    it's also based a lot more on matchup specifics. for instance samchay is really good at keeping marstorious out, but all marstorious needs is like two good setpieces to win the match because of his insane damage. so he just edges him out tierwise.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    I believe that tier list is very accurate..esp since have seen Marsotorius counter people Like Lee with EASE.
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  • kenurankenuran Kerberotte Joined: Posts: 2,068
    Wow i forgot i made this thread. Anyway here is the largest tourney ever for this game (3 on 3 format) released on DVD as the Great Grapple Insanity.

    Part 1 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8049651895256659066

    Part 2 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8452732042787061514

    Part 3 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1083091326188664604

    Part 4 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8040912204030676321

    Part 5 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2760548062508694564 (END)

    Samchay battle http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-442086317439177433

    Messing with the CPU (AI tricks) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6428676070039335321

    P.S. I'm certain Ryoko is bottom tier
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  • Running WildRunning Wild Rock You Like A Hurricane Joined: Posts: 3,183
    If you're gonna throw around tier listings, you better list reasons why as well. Every character in this game has something good going for them for the most part, no one in particular just plain out right sucks or is completely dominate.
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  • Diet SNK With LimeDiet SNK With Lime BUTTxROCK Joined: Posts: 226
    I found this game pretty cheap for the MVS and I'm seriously considering picking it up. I liked the SNES version of the prequel, even though it was about the biggest rip off of SF imaginable, and I've only heard good things about Dynamite. Plus, who doesn't like Misoguchi in KOF:MIA?
  • 46494649 Certainly, they existed. Joined: Posts: 1,301
    If you're gonna throw around tier listings, you better list reasons why as well. Every character in this game has something good going for them for the most part, no one in particular just plain out right sucks or is completely dominate.

    Feilin is trash, sorry.
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  • RushedDownRushedDown back in the usa Joined: Posts: 2,046
    samchay is a beast
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    Note to self must fill out patent paperwork on Home Depot Vagina

    Isn't that just Lowe's?
  • RushedDownRushedDown back in the usa Joined: Posts: 2,046
    Isn't that just Lowe's?

    wtf u live in providence?

    we need to play
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  • 46494649 Certainly, they existed. Joined: Posts: 1,301
    samchay is a beast

    i agree, fool is like o.sagat. everybody has to change their strategy against him.
    tiers might change again, but really the game needs more players.
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  • Running WildRunning Wild Rock You Like A Hurricane Joined: Posts: 3,183
    Feilin is trash, sorry.

    Your on crack, one of my buddies plays with Feilin and she is a beast of a woman.
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  • Virtua_LeonVirtua_Leon Gal me seeeerious Joined: Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    There's no way around it felin is crap, crap damage, crap combos, crap moves, in relation to everybody else.

    Personally i think you're being very generous with mastourious ranking
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  • 46494649 Certainly, they existed. Joined: Posts: 1,301
    yeah, gwyrgyn told me that about mars too, lol. that's actually one of the first things i wanted to discuss with people eventually.

    Running Wild, i'd love to play your "buddy" and show them how terrible the Karnov vs. Fei Lin matchup is. Imagine being locked down forever. FOREVER. Yeah, it's kinda like that.
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  • Running WildRunning Wild Rock You Like A Hurricane Joined: Posts: 3,183
    You can find him in GodWeapon most of the time, his name is DynamoWolf. Fei Lin isn't his main though, he's mainly a Yung Mie and Zazie player, with a bit of Clown thrown in for lulz. Last time I played him though, he floored me with Fei Lin.
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  • SohSoh Thunder God assisted Joined: Posts: 74
    Stop bitching on the tiers, japanese players have done the job for you :rofl:

    http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/39/matchupzw9.png

    translation please :lovin:
  • 46494649 Certainly, they existed. Joined: Posts: 1,301
    good shit Soh, where'd you find this? source?
    looks like it's Karnov, Rei, and then, well my japanese fails.
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  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Acctualy its ray, lee, zazzy, taekwando girl, karnov, samgay, mizoguchi, clown....., vegas gay cousin, guiles gay cousin, chun li, ryoko, geifs straight cousin.
  • ThrowTheDiceThrowTheDice Yahooey! Joined: Posts: 246
    A bit of a silly question, but for some reason Ray's super dynamite won't work when I'm on the 1p side. It works perfectly on the 2p side, so I don't know what's up.
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  • SnatcherSnatcher The True Enemy Joined: Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I can't do Ray's super dynamite at all, which sucks, because I was planning on picking him up... It's just "Charge Back, Forward, Forward + Punch", right? No special timing?
  • Josh-TheFunkDOCJosh-TheFunkDOC Double Dutch! Joined: Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    That chart seems pretty wack. Just because it's Japanese doesn't mean it'll be good - we've found one for RB2 that said Tung was top tier!
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  • SohSoh Thunder God assisted Joined: Posts: 74
    For those who don't have an account on combovideos.com i have uploaded the Amusement Popy Tournament held in 7/2/2005.

    PART 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=_g4oTru80sM
    PART 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=_T9IwKR7sLM
    PART 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=KQQZujz68xQ
    PART 4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6n57GZoeok

    good shit Soh, where'd you find this? source?
    looks like it's Karnov, Rei, and then, well my japanese fails.

    i found it on an old site, i can't remember the link, maybe the site is still up.
    we've found one for RB2 that said Tung was top tier!.

    Can you PM me that tier list,please? I've tried to find a RB2 japanese tier for many years but I've never found anything, and yes I consider Tung very high.
  • ThrowTheDiceThrowTheDice Yahooey! Joined: Posts: 246
    That chart seems pretty wack. Just because it's Japanese doesn't mean it'll be good - we've found one for RB2 that said Tung was top tier!

    I agree. There is NO WAY that Mastriartus has the worst matchups in the game.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    I agree. There is NO WAY that Mastriartus has the worst matchups in the game.

    I agree on that too..people are smoking some mad crack..Marsotorius IMO has the BEST matchups in the game...

    He beats a lot of people that others have hard with like Lee and others.. Double German FO' LIFE fool! :rofl:
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