Street fighter EX thread(EX, EX+, Ex+@, EX2, EX2+, EX3)

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  • Lord_RaptorLord_Raptor Joined: Posts: 8,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah EX1 worked, just ran slow as fuck. Emulation wise EX 1 & 2 ran fine on ESPXE.
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    zinc was already my favorite for fast speed sfex arcade emulation
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    zinc was already my favorite for fast speed sfex arcade emulation
    I'm going for accuracy not speed.
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  • AceKombatAceKombat (́◕◞౪◟◕‵) Joined: Posts: 698
    EX and EX2 series played fine last time I used Mame . It probably depends on CPU specs if it can handle it or not , which is why Zinc is probably most preferred overall for the arcade emulation .
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    Well impact was the first emu which emulated sfex, which then evolved into zinc, then those same emu authors added it to mame via software rendering and no cheats so it was slower but supposively more accurate. but most modern computers should be able to handle it no problem.
  • DonkusDonkus Still in space! Joined: Posts: 476
    Been trying to play EX3 after quitting SF for a long time. But it's frustrating because the only PS2 controller I have is made by gamestop. It has zero precision and this makes playing the execution-heavy EX3 nearly impossible.
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    Try local stores, I've been seeing some around me that still sell the DS2 controller.
  • geadomgeadom Reversal Counter Hit Joined: Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Dont know if it was common knowledge but something i found on EX3...

    Blocking standing (instead of crouching) GREATLY decreases block stun. Bison Scissor kicks, Blanka Balls, and even V. Rosso momentary pressure can be punished easily (and the universal cr.mp to cr.mk link of allmost all characters). Makes a lots of matchups (V. Rosso in special) more easy. The drawback is that youre vulnerable low...

    But anyways, i supposed all of you already knew this (found out this past weekend).

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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,204
    If you guys coulda kicked the ST dudes off the cab we coulda had more EX2/2+~

    Which would have achieved what? I don't play stick. I only barely tolerated it because I wanted to try TTT2 on the cabs. Unless that was a supergun with pad ports.
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  • Saotome KanedaSaotome Kaneda Watch your back Joined: Posts: 5,332 mod
    Which would have achieved what? I don't play stick. I only barely tolerated it because I wanted to try TTT2 on the cabs. Unless that was a supergun with pad ports.
    learn stick dammit :V
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    SFEX3 tournament this weekend at UFGT8. Don't miss it.
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  • Saotome KanedaSaotome Kaneda Watch your back Joined: Posts: 5,332 mod
    Not bad matches, never bothered to see if Kairi could divekick after air super FB before. lol Did Momosan play EX before? he looked like he was playing a completely different game's Gief for most of the set, dunno why it was still so effective against you.
    So you have it or you're just linking that for no reason? =p
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,204
    Not bad matches, never bothered to see if Kairi could divekick after air super FB before. lol Did Momosan play EX before? he looked like he was playing a completely different game's Gief for most of the set, dunno why it was still so effective against you.

    I'm a weak player against grapplers in general unless I'm playing a strong zoning character or something. Me messing up Hokuto's combos from being rusty didn't help matters and uh, I didn't know Gief could punish Hokuto's block cr.HK with a combo into super...I don't remember him able to do that in EX1. We're gaming again on Thursday so I've got time to hit practice mode I guess. I really don't like fighting Gief in general though.
    So you have it or you're just linking that for no reason? =p

    I ordered it. It seems like a good stick I guess, so its what I'll be using.
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  • Saotome KanedaSaotome Kaneda Watch your back Joined: Posts: 5,332 mod
    I'm a weak player against grapplers in general unless I'm playing a strong zoning character or something. Me messing up Hokuto's combos from being rusty didn't help matters and uh, I didn't know Gief could punish Hokuto's block cr.HK with a combo into super...I don't remember him able to do that in EX1. We're gaming again on Thursday so I've got time to hit practice mode I guess. I really don't like fighting Gief in general though.
    Yeah he can 360 it on block at the right range in ex1 IIRC. I do remember the sweep being slightly slower in EX2 though. Regardless you shoulda been s.MPing him out of the air. =p
    I ordered it. It seems like a good stick I guess, so its what I'll be using.
    Good. See you at NEC/FR then!
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    I probably have about 11 hours of SFEX2P casuals, about probably about 5-6 hours of SFEX3 casuals plus tournament. Casuals will mostly be untitled since I didn't bother to get the name of every player that went to the cab, but one guy I'll know and mark his. CAJ814

    Got 2nd to justin in EX3 this year. Had 8 players so it went ok I guess. It'll be a while before I can upload the footage though. Lots of Darun play though, mostly CAJ814 lol
  • Return of ShikiReturn of Shiki Your favorite game sucks Joined: Posts: 4,386 ✭✭
    Sorry I couldn't make it this year, because I really wanted to play in that EX3 tournament.

    Why is flying from Charlotte to Chicago like 2x more expensive than flying from Charlotte to Las Vegas????
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,204
    Yeah he can 360 it on block at the right range in ex1 IIRC. I do remember the sweep being slightly slower in EX2 though. Regardless you shoulda been s.MPing him out of the air. =p

    Yes, or cr.HP.
    Good. See you at NEC/FR then!

    I take it that means you agree its a solid stick?
    I probably have about 11 hours of SFEX2P casuals, about probably about 5-6 hours of SFEX3 casuals plus tournament. Casuals will mostly be untitled since I didn't bother to get the name of every player that went to the cab, but one guy I'll know and mark his. CAJ814

    Got 2nd to justin in EX3 this year. Had 8 players so it went ok I guess. It'll be a while before I can upload the footage though. Lots of Darun play though, mostly CAJ814 lol

    Looking forward to the EX casuals. Kind of bummed you lost to Justin; it hurts to see who, in my eyes is a specialist lose to Wong but I guess the silver lining is that it just proves more than ever how the EX series rewards SF fundamentals and solid play so much more than other later titles using the SF name. I'm interested in knowing who you used in the tourney/casuals? I'm guessing Ken or maybe Garuda?
    Sorry I couldn't make it this year, because I really wanted to play in that EX3 tournament.

    Why is flying from Charlotte to Chicago like 2x more expensive than flying from Charlotte to Las Vegas????

    That makes two of us; but with that distance, expense and us having to do work now (didn't you tell me you have two jobs now at FR? I do work third shift now myself). Hopefully next year but honestly I'm hoping we can maybe get something set up at Final Round. I saw Larry running an ST (or was it HDR) side tourney this year. Perhaps we can speak to him about us doing the same for EX.
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  • Saotome KanedaSaotome Kaneda Watch your back Joined: Posts: 5,332 mod
    Yes, or cr.HP.
    or s.RH or any other dumb fucking buttons hokutohasfuckthatbitch adfasdfdsafdfsffsaf
    I take it that means you agree its a solid stick?
    Not many sticks nowadays are actually ass. But yeah this one is good to go. Shouldn't have too much trouble if you mod it either.
    I saw Larry running an ST (or was it HDR) side tourney this year. Perhaps we can speak to him about us doing the same for EX.
    Hopefully Larry can get more staff to help out so things like that can be put out there easier. The ST event is more or less a given than an "ask if we can run it" thing considering it's his cab and board. Kajoq usually brings his supergun too so that makes it easier to sell.

    However if something IS gonna happen it's gonna have to be once he announces the next FR dates so we can try to get a setup going. I can bring my board if necessary, or we can play on PS2 or w/e. You know, he never did get to play as ex2 Blanka. lol
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,204
    You pretty much have to know Gief is going to jump to use st.RH as AA. It beats him out at specific angles and when he uses some normals...not always reliable. Cr. HP is a lot better but it will sometimes trade with gief. Especially gief j.RH

    I always bring PS2 for EX games, but I'm actually looking forward to playing on arcade version. No load times, better resolution and textures. I should have a camera by then, too. I want to play Larry in some EX, no doubt about that.
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    Well EX3 blanka has the air roll which Larry might like ;)
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    Huh. Turns out my friend and SF4 sparring partner also played EX2/EX3 back in the day. He brought that up when he saw and old cab at one of the arcades here. Guess it's time to prep the PS1/PS2 then... been meaning to revisit the EX games and CvS2 anyway.
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    Going through the EX footage from UFGT8, looks like several hours of SFEX2P has no sound... So sorry about that when you look up the videos some of the videos will have no sound.

    Also since some of these video recordings are several hours long, and I didn't write down anyones name they'll largely be untitled. Though most of the P2 Darun play would be from CAJ814 and more often than not I'm the one playing against him on P1 side.
    But as they're uploading they'll be here.
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,204
    Its about time. Any EX1 footage?

    Also lol Webster.
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    No EX1 footage, perhaps next year we'll do EX1 instead.
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    Currently uploading the SFEX3 tournament matches, subbed them all so you know who is who. Will later try and edit the description to somehow show where in the bracket they were.
    Ok, also went on ahead and edited the order of the play list so it goes 1 round, 2nd round winners, winners finals, 1 round loses, 2nd round losers, 3rd round losers, losers finals, grand finals.

    starts the 1st match of the 1st round of the SFEX3 Tournament. enjoy.
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    "But that's SRK for you. SFIV could have a feature where Chun-Li steps out of the TV and gives the players blowjobs, and some would still complain because she wasn't Sakura." --Azrael(?)
  • RukunetsuRukunetsu Joined: Posts: 51
    Rather shameless of me, but I had no idea this thread existed. Here are a few EX-based remixes I've done over the years. I'm not the most avid EX player, but I'm a big fan of the series. That said, I hope they're somewhat enjoyable.




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  • kev_the_bevkev_the_bev triumph. Joined: Posts: 391
    it would be so dope if ex2+ came out on XBLA and PSN
  • geadomgeadom Reversal Counter Hit Joined: Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    it would be so dope if EX3 came out on XBLA and PSN

    Fixed :)

    @Rukunetsu: Cool remixes.
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    Well any EX game with good netplay on PSN and XBLA would be dope.
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    Fixed :)

    @Rukunetsu: Cool remixes.

    Thanks G - and I agree. A release on the various marketplaces/networks would be awesome indeed.
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  • geadomgeadom Reversal Counter Hit Joined: Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Not to hate, but excels IMO kill EX2 as a competitive game , so, it would die pretty quick on PSN / XBL.
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  • AceKombatAceKombat (́◕◞౪◟◕‵) Joined: Posts: 698
    Not to hate, but excels IMO kill EX2 as a competitive game , so, it would die pretty quick on PSN / XBL.

    Can you explain why ? I'm pretty sure Excel has some sort of effect in making the game more balanced . Otherwise , Gief would cause big trouble to the cast .
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  • geadomgeadom Reversal Counter Hit Joined: Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Gief? Big Trouble? In a game with Hokuto/Area and a GREAT cast that can antiair/play footsies and recover from any frame disvantage /trap for just having meter? hell nawwww

    Excels:

    Antiair everything.
    Can be linked / comboed / done in succesion. Even some throws lead to... more excel (lol)
    There´s no Alpha Counter in this game. No air block, either.

    They just kill the use for a lot of supers, antiairs, combos, etc of the game. Making the (REALLY GREAT CORE) game dumb. Its just excel after excel and who can land them first. Its a shame, the game is REALLY a great step up from EX1.

    All of this is IMO, of course.
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  • AceKombatAceKombat (́◕◞౪◟◕‵) Joined: Posts: 698
    Gief? Big Trouble? In a game with Hokuto/Area and a GREAT cast that can antiair/play footsies and recover from any frame disvantage /trap for just having meter? hell nawwww

    Excels:

    Antiair everything.
    Can be linked / comboed / done in succesion. Even some throws lead to... more excel (lol)
    There´s no Alpha Counter in this game. No air block, either.

    They just kill the use for a lot of supers, antiairs, combos, etc of the game. Making the (REALLY GREAT CORE) game dumb. Its just excel after excel and who can land them first. Its a shame, the game is REALLY a great step up from EX1.

    All of this is IMO, of course.

    You make it sound like everyone has to use Excel , but if you play with someone like Sagat , he can't even get big damage using Excel . Sagat's Supers are really useful for punishing unsafe attacks like blocked horizontal Blanka Balls for example .

    If Hokuto's is such a problem for Gief for jumping , then don't jump... From the matches I seen with Gief VS Hokuto from A-Cho , usually Gief comes on top but Hokuto still has some chances . Most of the normals in this game are RECYCLED btw so most people have the same normals animation with an exception of certain characters . Gief has some good normals of his own on the ground (*looks at Cr.Roundhouse*) so he doesn't have to always have to rely on being in the air to get some momentum . Gief just has to properly play patient with Hokuto , and once Gief corners Hokuto , Hokuto is not in a good position at all .
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  • geadomgeadom Reversal Counter Hit Joined: Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    As i said, all of this is IMO. I dont play the game that much, im talking in my EX1 and EX3 experience, i try to STAY away from EX2 as far as i can. Im sorry, that game is SFA 3 deux for me :(
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  • 4neqs4neqs thick_thighs Joined: Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Found an EX2 cab in the new city I moved to. Had some of the SF4 guys call up the EX players that they knew. Will upload casuals to my YT in the coming days.

    Sorry no sound, had to remove because the karaoke and other background noises were too loud. :(
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    As i said, all of this is IMO. I dont play the game that much, im talking in my EX1 and EX3 experience, i try to STAY away from EX2 as far as i can. Im sorry, that game is SFA 3 deux for me :(
    I'm of the same opinion. But if you can manage to find some people play EX2+ with you without excels then yeah its better than EX1.

    But if this game really got competitive, then people would learn all the excels and make it like A2 or A3. Or A groove CvS2. But around here the game isn't competitive so there really isn't a need to really learn excels and you can get by against the competition without it.

    At UFGT8, most of the time it was me against Caj814 who both never really used excels and the game was pretty fun. But this wasn't serious. If EX2+ even had a scene like skullgirls or kof then you'd bet that you'd have to learn those excels really fast. Or get left behind.
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    Totally agree with you, Shinji. CC's always ruin FG for me. Like KOF13, that game seems mad dope, until someone has meter..
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    Course an argument can be made that at least excels benefited everyone and momentaries not so much. But still Blanka with crappy momentaries (and a fucking air ball)can frustrate anyone. Even JWong. Vega can be a bit annoying, but they really needed to speed up his claw dive (move and recovery on miss, or successful knockdown hit). Maybe not ST levels of speed, but improve recovery by 5 frames and increase the speed by 5% and you have a vega with crappy momentaries that still scarey.
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    Shinji, i play Shadow and Sagat (in that order, EX3). I want to replace Sagat, but i cant find a suitable partner for shadow. I SUCK at ryu, btw, so tell me, who would you recommend?

    PD: Im trying Sharon, so if you can give tips and stuff for her, ill apreciate it :)
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    Gen used to team Bison and Shadow and did pretty well, but eventually dropped shadow for D.Dark. My friend also likes to team Rosso with Shadow. Shadow is really a super hog, so you probably would want a character that can build super and not rely on supers to be effective (incase of emotional flow).

    I never really played much sharon. Sabin had a pretty good sharon and chun team that beat me pretty well. Though he had trouble against a Ken and Ryu team. Though I have a tendancy to get hit by Sharons Meteor rifle so that doesn't help me much lol. Shes got some mixups between her momentaries and flip kick special (that can throw as well).
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    Found an EX2 cab in the new city I moved to. Had some of the SF4 guys call up the EX players that they knew. Will upload casuals to my YT in the coming days.

    Sorry no sound, had to remove because the karaoke and other background noises were too loud. :(

    more of the same, from another guy recording



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  • Griot of the Lost LegendsGriot of the Lost Legends sapientia vicit timor Joined: Posts: 14
    Hey Ex guys, I have some questions on SFEX3. I just bought a copy and the game is pretty fun. My friend and I have been playing, but...some things don't make any sense to me.

    I understand how to use the momentary combos that are straight forward, like Ryu's Shoryuken->Tatsumaki and Hadoken -> Red Hadoken ->Tatsumaki. Ryu, Evil Ryu, Garuda, Hokuto, Dhalsim, Bison, Sakura, Nanase, Sharon, Guile, Gief,Sagat, Skullo, Blanka's are all easy enough to get. All of the others I don't get.

    Ken, Kairi, Jack, and Pullum's P momentary combos I don't understand how to use. Can these extend combos?

    D.Dark's and Area's K momentary combos I don't understand how to use. I don't think Sharon's is guaranteed either.

    Rosso, Vega, Darun, and Shadow Geist seem to have crappy useless momentary combos. Am I too scrubby to see the application, or do some characters just have shitty momentary combos?

    I've been having fun playing this game, but it seems like other than Rosso and D.Dark, characters who have good momentary combos like particularly shotos, and Sagat, can really rape characters who can't do as much damage. Sagat is ridiculous in this game. The create-a-character guy Ace seems like crap tier. No momentary combos and his moves do no damage. Even the hard ones suck.
  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭
    Ken's p. momentary can be used to catch an opponent off guard and throw them when they're in block stun from a hadouken or something (technically they recover before you do, so more often than not they'll counter you, but still probably worth throwing in there every so often to surprise them).
    Kens k.momentary can be used after a hadouken to get more hits, used to extend the length of time you have to start controling your second character on tag in, or get some more hits off a shoryuken (try and time it on the last hit)

    Kairis k.momentary can be used like Kens/ryus after a fireball, his p.momentary can work well to make your DP's safer on block
    Jacks p.momentary like kens roll can be used to surprise your opponent after either hit or block special, kick can extend juggles slightly (c.hp, homerun hero, kick momentary) after they've been launched with qcbX2+p. You probably be used to surprise your opponent as well if the keep blocking low after a blocked special, allowing you to go for the throw, or 360p, or whatever.
    Pullums p.momentary combo can be good off an air drill (won't combo), I don't believe it really has much purpose beyond that. You probably try it on a blocked dp, with hp to probably jump over them and cross them up, or lp to run away.
    D.Darks kick is good to make blocked wires safe (could start some block strings as well), could also be used to get in another hit after a landed wire
    Area's kick is good again to catch opponents off guard if they block yoiur qcf+p's
    Rossos are both entirely for rushing down and mix ups.
    Vega... yeah dives are really too slow to have any real point IMO. If your opponent is bad at avoiding wall dives/throws then that might be an option for ya.
    Darun p.momentary really only has 1 use that I can see. You parry something with his ppp, and momentary the recovery allowing you to go into a combo.
    darun k.momentary again is really only used to catch your opponent sleeping off a blocked lariat.
    Shadow p.momentary can be used off a qcf+k when blocking to encure block damage, it might juggle as well if the qcf+k hits I think.
    k.momentary could probably be used to cross up your opponent if they block either the qcf+p/k, or to gain ground/build super on a landed qcf+p/k

    For Ace there are some theories that he does more damage if you level up his moves. But to be honest I never really measured the data prior to leveling him up. He does have 2 infinites but they're both a pain in the ass to pull off. Lightning kick infinite (think desk's chunli in sf4), and a lv3 lp.shoryuken if perfectly executed with launch the opponent into the air in a juggle state and you can repeat it 12 times to kill your opponent. Best luck I've had with that is negative edging the lp.shoryuken. He also gets a few specials that can be done in the air (hadouken, blanka ball, hurricane kick, fairy gift etc...)

    Sharons is all mix ups, but they feel too slow to be of any real use. Granted if they were much faster they'd probably be too strong.
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    I don't think I ever leveled up all of Ace's moves. The f~b+lp+lk command grab was too hard for me to do. The rest I did manage to do.

    When you start off at lv.0 all of Ace's moves do terrible damage, just as you said. When you get them to level 3, the normals still do about 1-3 points less, and the supers and meteors do at least 4 points less. For example Guile's sonic boom does 16 damage. At lv0 Ace's does 12. At level 3 Ace's does 15 damage.

    Some basic tricks/combos with Ace...

    Ace can combo a c.LK off his normal throw, similar to Bison. He can then cancel the c.LK into either a Somersault, Hagan Syo, or Rolling Attack. Both the Hagan Syo and Somersault can then be cancelled into Double Somersault.

    Hagan Syo deflects projectiles at all levels. It cancels really easily from his moves.

    His triple break is nerfed until you get to lv3. Before that it doesn't juggle properly. Best used after a Justice Fist or Canassa.

    Justice Fist lv 3 does something like 40pts of damage.

    Shoran has a lot of invincibility to trade of for it's terrible rage. It's good canceled off a justice fist or canassa.

    Aragyouji is completely invincible at the beginning of it's animation. It can even go through Bison II's Green Pyscho Cannon. At level 3 it does decent damage.

    Zenpo Tenshin has no invicibility frames until you level it up to 3. Then it actually has a few. If you hate the Gigag Gladiator motion, set Zenpo Tenshin as one of your moves. Do a jab Zenpo Tenshin motion, and then do the Giga Gladiator. Also you can use the Zenpo Tenshin command to start a SPD or FAB.

    When you hit with an Ex-plosive, Ace can usually follow it up with a f.MK depending on how close he is.

    Just as ShinjiGohan said, Ace has an infinite off his Lighting Kick. You can either use c.MP, Lightning Kick, c.MP. Or you can use c.MP,cLk, Lightning Kick. It's a great way to build meter and do damage at the same time, but your opponent also gains meter. Even if you can only do 3 in a row it's still more damage than a super combo.

    The Lv3 Shoryuken can do an infinite juggle. Execution wise, it's no different from an Electric Wind God fist in Tekken. Even if you can't do 5 in a row just doing a Jab Shoryuken into a Fierce Shoryuken does more damage than the average Super Combo.

    Rolling Attack is a pretty solid move with the QCF+P motion. You can do all sorts of stuff with it. Really fun with Sonic Booms.

    Stun Palm does great damage at level 3, but the execution is way stricter than Virtua Fighter.

    The Galaxy is actually worth the trouble. I can't remember the exact damage, but at level 3 it's stronger than Shadow Geist's meteor, which is over 150 damage. Normally when you combo into a meteor combo it does a lot less damage than the meteor combo by itself. The Galaxy has the best damage scaling of any meteor combo in the game. If you do jumping HK, standing HK, Galaxy, it will be the same damage as doing the Galaxy without a combo. This makes for game ending Tag juggles.

    Ace is god tier with the Shoryuken lv3. Without that, it's not hard making a top tier Ace. If there ever were serious tournaments for SFEX3 I'd imagine he'd be banned.
  • 4neqs4neqs thick_thighs Joined: Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some more SFEX2 casuals between my friends...
    using spoiler tag to make it load faster
    Spoiler:
    "But that's SRK for you. SFIV could have a feature where Chun-Li steps out of the TV and gives the players blowjobs, and some would still complain because she wasn't Sakura." --Azrael(?)
  • TNBTNB Bye. Joined: Posts: 1,180
    shouldn't ken have a loop of some sort ib ex2 plus with shippu jinrai>cancel?

    other characters with launch supers usually have a loop of some kind.
    Skills and attitude prove worth as a player, not the internet.
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