Street Fighter Alpha 2 tier list

master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.comJoined: Posts: 447
Since SF Alpha 2 is my favorite SF game Im going to post my tier character rank list:


Top Tier

Ken
Akuma
Evil Ryu
Ryu


Midle Tier:

Sagat
Charlie
Chun-Li
Rose
Guy
Sakura

Low Tier:

Adon
Bison
Sodom
Dhalsim
Rolento

Very Low Tier

Birdie
Gen
Zangief
Dan


I didnt post Shin Akuma because as everyone knows hes GOD Insane Tier, if anyone has different Tier list please post it.
CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
A2 - Chun,Ryu
Garou - Kain

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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    master akuma = Vampire Savior ?

    Hmm...........
  • master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.com Joined: Posts: 447
    Originally posted by Peen Che Whay
    Are you are sure about your tiers bro
    think chunli should be top tier dawg she is a fuckin beast in that game .

    Chun Li is good on Alpha 2 but the way that I play shes midle tier, for me Ken is a real beast with great CC :) (imo)

    how you put your tier list on Alpha 2?

    btw: nice avatar you got.
    CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
    SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
    A2 - Chun,Ryu
    Garou - Kain
  • SaBrESaBrE BAI BAI Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    uhhh.

    established top tier for a2 for the bast 7 years have been

    ken
    rose
    chun-li
    ryu

    and theres no way anyone is better than them, especially ken, rose and chun. ryu isnt godly but has the right stuff. rolento is a very close 5th just for his damn near 100% ghetto cc...
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  • master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.com Joined: Posts: 447
    Originally posted by SaBrE
    uhhh.

    established top tier for a2 for the bast 7 years have been

    ken
    rose
    chun-li
    ryu

    and theres no way anyone is better than them, especially ken, rose and chun. ryu isnt godly but has the right stuff. rolento is a very close 5th just for his damn near 100% ghetto cc...

    So your Alpha 2 top list is like:
    1 Ken
    2 Rose
    3 Chun-Li
    4 Ryu
    5 Rolento

    and besides that do you have listed about how you rate the rest of Alpha 2 characters?
    CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
    SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
    A2 - Chun,Ryu
    Garou - Kain
  • SaBrESaBrE BAI BAI Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    yeah the rest suck for the most part. except maybe charlie and sagat.. i dont think no one pays attention to the rest of the cast after the top 5
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  • TSTS pbbbbbbt... Joined: Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    IIRC A2 2nd tiers after the first go something like

    Sakura
    Rolento
    Sagat

    [everyone but]

    Dan
    Birdie
    Gen

    Go check the old A2 vs A3 thread.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I agree with sabre on the tiers except i still feel hun li is top just cause the prioty of most of her moves( especialylow forward) and her cc level 1 with can do like half if not more if you hit right .
    you dont even need her level three.

    Ryu is very hard to play on that he is sitter so is chun an rose fuckin sitters.
    His cc is the best in that game ha haha ahahahahaha ahahaha haduken 80 percent

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  • master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.com Joined: Posts: 447
    I still play Alpha 2 and I love it, I wish I had some of my friends to play again but they all stoped playing this game vs me :evil:

    Some of you guys talked about Chun Li: imo shes a very good "Pressure" character on Alpha 2, her down + MK has a really great ground range and a good Alpha 2 player that is making pressure with her down MK pressure range can change sometimes with a trow due her speed, this way some oppenents will be forced to do something stupid :)

    Any more comments about good Alpha 2 characters?

    If anyone has a tier list please post it here.
    CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
    SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
    A2 - Chun,Ryu
    Garou - Kain
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Top 4 fight each other really well. Chun stuff can be countered:
    Ken can kick AC her cr.MK-->fireball and knock off a nice chunk of her life
    Rose can just cr.MP Chun's pokes
    Ryu can fierce fireball her in her face

    About Chun doing high damage with a Level one:
    Ken, Rolento, and Sagat have equally good CCs at level 1
    Rose can do equal or better damage with her level 1 Illusion

    Chun uses level 3 for her Lightning Legs custom (cr.HK, Roundhouse Lightning Kick till almost empty, Roundhouse Rising Kick at the end).
  • mr.sagatmr.sagat OG Vegas Titan Joined: Posts: 1,697
    I play Chun in every street fighter game and I agree that i think she is tier in alpha 2. I am not a genious the real person to ask would be a real "Chun" player like Apoc. I am sure he could put an end to this question....
  • master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.com Joined: Posts: 447
    Originally posted by mr.sagat
    I play Chun in every street fighter game and I agree that i think she is tier in alpha 2. I am not a genious the real person to ask would be a real "Chun" player like Apoc. I am sure he could put an end to this question....

    On Alpha 2 Chun Li is a good pressure character due her speed and her down MK that has a great ground range, her Deadly CC Zone is very good on anti-pressure situations but not as great as Ken or Akuma (imo)
    CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
    SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
    A2 - Chun,Ryu
    Garou - Kain
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Did Gief get crappy all of a sudden? I'd put him right there with Rolento.. maybe lower.

    Gief vs Rolento is a great match. Keepaway vs haha-I-got-in-you're-fucked. Knees into SPD is good again. Too bad most SPD attempts get owned by CC.

    Rose is STUPID. S-T-U-P-I-D. Any idiot who is on the level to cancel into super can learn Rose in 10 minutes and beat every other idiot who doesn't know Rose. Low strong really is that good. :(
  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Sakura had a good cross up combo, where if you blocked wrong you were fucked and she could repeat it.

    Zangief did hold his own, after all my friend did ban my brother from playing as Zangief, Rose, Sakura, Rolento, but he never banned Ken or Chun Li...

    They're good in their own right, but I'm sure Gamest had Chun Li is top.
  • master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.com Joined: Posts: 447
    Originally posted by ShinjiGohan
    Sakura had a good cross up combo, where if you blocked wrong you were fucked and she could repeat it.

    Zangief did hold his own, after all my friend did ban my brother from playing as Zangief, Rose, Sakura, Rolento, but he never banned Ken or Chun Li...

    They're good in their own right, but I'm sure Gamest had Chun Li is top.

    Zangief on Alpha 2 has serious problems vs a good Ken or Akuma, now about Chun Li I can't say the same because her speed and MK has a great ground range and works very well as a pressure tool, also: Chun Li MK on the air has a very good angle since her jumping speed is good (way better than Zangief) but overall a good Ken or Akuma can damage Chun Li anytime/most times due their Deadly CC Zones and other important weapons.

    Drag: many people talk good stuff about Zangief on Alpha 3 (since I don't like A3 I can't talk much about it) but on Alpha 2 Zangief is (imo) very low tier, his Deadly CC Zone is nothing when we compare it with Ken, Ryu or Akuma, all of his supers can be stoped with regular moves and his grab range is smaller than any Shoto Deadly CC Zone, etc...
    CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
    SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
    A2 - Chun,Ryu
    Garou - Kain
  • kane_warheadkane_warhead Blanka forever Joined: Posts: 1,532
    Originally posted by master akuma

    Drag: many people talk good stuff about Zangief on Alpha 3 (since I don't like A3 I can't talk much about it) but on Alpha 2 Zangief is (imo) very low tier, his Deadly CC Zone is nothing when we compare it with Ken, Ryu or Akuma, all of his supers can be stoped with regular moves and his grab range is smaller than any Shoto Deadly CC Zone, etc...

    Dude, The Valle CC is not the only CC in Alpha 2 ok. Zangief has high priority in his attacks which makes him a threat. Don't reason that 360 or 720 throws are hard to do.... Some people can do those moves with ease, and Zangief doesn't rely too much on his Throws... His Normals are threat enough.
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  • DeathstrokeDeathstroke Insane Shotokan Joined: Posts: 82
    My List

    Ken
    Akuma
    Rolento
    Sagat
    : : S S F I V AE [ G u i l e :: A k u m a ] : :
    : : S F : 3 S [ R y u :: A k u m a :: A l e x ::C h u n - L i ] : :
  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Originally posted by master akuma


    Zangief on Alpha 2 has serious problems vs a good Ken or Akuma, now about Chun Li I can't say the same because her speed and MK has a great ground range and works very well as a pressure tool, also: Chun Li MK on the air has a very good angle since her jumping speed is good (way better than Zangief) but overall a good Ken or Akuma can damage Chun Li anytime/most times due their Deadly CC Zones and other important weapons.

    Maybe you're better than my brother, but thats unlikely.

    Also Chun Li had a better CC than Ken or Akuma did. Doing 50-60% damage on a level 1 CC is just insane.
  • caliagent#3caliagent#3 Caliagent Bobblehead Joined: Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Originally posted by ShinjiGohan


    Maybe you're better than my brother, but thats unlikely.

    Also Chun Li had a better CC than Ken or Akuma did. Doing 50-60% damage on a level 1 CC is just insane.

    Don't mind master akuma, he thinks the shotos can do no wrong.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Master Akuma: Have you seen the length of Zangief's df+roundhouse sweep? That thing is huge! Start your CC with that, then mash out the greenhands and end with lariat. you gotta love the short/forward into greenhands, end with SPD CC though.

    I know Gief's got some problems, but last I remember he was right there under Sak/Rolento.
  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Originally posted by caliagent#3


    Don't mind master akuma, he thinks the shotos can do no wrong.

    I'm familar with MA, I am friends with Infected Jester. And I've read his position on how bad Zangief supposively is lol
  • omniomni Joined: Posts: 476 admin
    Chun Li
    Ryu/E.Ryu
    Ken
    Rose

    Sakura
    Zangief
    Rolento
    Charlie
    Sagat

    Akuma
    Sodom
    Adon
    Dhalsim
    Guy
    Bison

    Dan
    Birdie
    Gen

    There has been some debate of Ryu vs. E.Ryu between Kris G./Omar and the rest of the country but they both belong in top tier somewhere. E.Ryu loses the ability to do Strong DP as wakeup (as well as Akuma) but he has lots of Custom Tricks to make up for it.

    Sirlin thinks that Rose is the weakest of the top tier simply because at high levels she gets AC Reversal'ed the majority of the time and people were learning how to custom through her Low Strong with some consistency.

    Chun Li outright beats everyone though. Half the game simply doesn't work on her and she beats amost everything with low forward. Plus she has a command overhead that does block damage and is bufferable and her Level 1 CC does 50% even if you jump in with it (say vs. Dragon Punch). She lacks nothing in this game. Plus Low Forward XX Fireball is natural AC Reversal against stuff like Ken's AC (if he AC's the Low Forward) since she bends back to throw the fireball, hella stuff misses her.

    One of the best versions of Zangief ever IMO. Jump in Knee (with Forward) into SPD is near impossible for majority of the cast unless they have meter. Plus you can grab on 1st frame of them getting up, so say vs. Rose who has no reversal aside from meter you can knock her down and grab her if you are in range. Even though down/toward+Roundhouse is the worst way for him to start off customs (yes it's got distance but a lot of stuff beats it cleanly) his customs do mega damage with Jab green hands.

    Rolento has one of the best normals in the game and cannot be blocked on reaction - low fierce. It has to be blocked low in this game and you can play footsies with it rocking fools. His custom is no joke and he has tricks like Kick AC into Custom for some serious damage.

    Japan never really played A2, especially as much as america did. A2 is definitely an american game like MvC2, we know wayyyyyyyy more about this game than Japan, easily.

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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    But didn't Japan beat us in this game too? Like at the original USA vs Japan series?
  • omniomni Joined: Posts: 476 admin
    Originally posted by ShinjiGohan
    But didn't Japan beat us in this game too? Like at the original USA vs Japan series?

    Nope, there has never been anything remotely close to usa vs. jpn in a2. the first time valle went to jpn he played a2 and beat everyone up (not sure who he played but I know Daigo didn't play) and I never heard Gunter talk about how he got beat down and last time I was there I got 37 wins with Guy.

    Bas just told me that there was never a big A2 tourney after the Gamest tourney. shrug.

    I have no doubt in my mind that Japan would be good at the game if they played it, they just didn't play it.

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  • master akumamaster akuma akumacombos.com Joined: Posts: 447
    Originally posted by ShinjiGohan


    Maybe you're better than my brother, but thats unlikely.

    Also Chun Li had a better CC than Ken or Akuma did. Doing 50-60% damage on a level 1 CC is just insane.

    Since everyone on this board thinks that can beat me on every fighting game I don't care if you say that even your grandmother can beat me with perfect on Alpha 2 :D

    btw: when I'm talking about Deadly CC Zone on Alpha 2 I like to use it more as a anti-pressure weapon, even if Chun Li CC can do bigger damage then Ken or Akuma the Deadly CC Zone works better with the way that I play with them, and as you the Deadly CC Zone is unblockable once the opponent is standing, and that's all about the range and time when CC is activated that makes the Deadly CC Zone so Deadly (I hope you understand what I'm saying because sometimes it's hard to explain what I want due my english)

    Chun Li is a good character but not just because of her CC, on ground Chun Li is a great pressure character because of weapons that she has like her down MK that has GREAT range and it's FAST, also Chun Li MK on the air has a great angle and togheter with her speed that's another plus, since she has more cool weapons I can fear a player that really knows how to use Chun Li because I know how good she can be on good hands but for the way that I play Ken or Akuma take most part of the cake :)

    Drag: I know about that (Zangief's df+roundhouse sweep) since 96 and it's not that good (once I get home I can explain you better)

    caliagent#3: I'm not saying that Shotos can't be beated, I know that characters like Chun Li are hard to beat when played by good A2 players, but the way that I play makes characters like: (Ken or Akuma) great agaisnt defense and pressure players. (that's why my teir list is like I posted it)
    CvS2 - C Vega,Hibiki,Morrigan,Cammy,Sakura,Blanka,Sagat
    SSF2T - Vega,Honda,Dhalsim,Chun
    A2 - Chun,Ryu
    Garou - Kain
  • kane_warheadkane_warhead Blanka forever Joined: Posts: 1,532
    Originally posted by master akuma


    Since everyone on this board thinks that can beat me on every fighting game I don't care if you say that even your grandmother can beat me with perfect on Alpha 2 :D

    btw: when I'm talking about Deadly CC Zone on Alpha 2 I like to use it more as a anti-pressure weapon, even if Chun Li CC can do bigger damage then Ken or Akuma the Deadly CC Zone works better with the way that I play with them, and as you the Deadly CC Zone is unblockable once the opponent is standing, and that's all about the range and time when CC is activated that makes the Deadly CC Zone so Deadly (I hope you understand what I'm saying because sometimes it's hard to explain what I want due my english)

    Chun Li is a good character but not just because of her CC, on ground Chun Li is a great pressure character because of weapons that she has like her down MK that has GREAT range and it's FAST, also Chun Li MK on the air has a great angle and togheter with her speed that's another plus, since she has more cool weapons I can fear a player that really knows how to use Chun Li because I know how good she can be on good hands but for the way that I play Ken or Akuma take most part of the cake :)

    Drag: I know about that (Zangief's df+roundhouse sweep) since 96 and it's not that good (once I get home I can explain you better)

    caliagent#3: I'm not saying that Shotos can't be beated, I know that characters like Chun Li are hard to beat when played by good A2 players, but the way that I play makes characters like: (Ken or Akuma) great agaisnt defense and pressure players. (that's why my teir list is like I posted it)


    Dude, there are far more cc's than Valle CC(deadly zone bleh).

    Can you explain why Zangief is not good at Alpha 2?
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  • ShinjiGohanShinjiGohan Joined: Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Originally posted by master akuma


    Since everyone on this board thinks that can beat me on every fighting game I don't care if you say that even your grandmother can beat me with perfect on Alpha 2 :D

    Seeing how my grandma never picked up a fighting game, she can't beat you :p

    Did I say he'd perfect you? Nope.

    But he would beat you in A2.
  • ShinRyuXShinRyuX Joined: Posts: 136
    A2 Gief is like one of the best versions ever like Omni said(yo what's up Derek!!). He has SO MANY options on the ground and in the air it's not even funny. Ken and Chun does well against him because they have solid anti airs and can keep him at bay. Ken can just do standing mk which counters him cleanly. Chun can cr. roundhouse all his jumpins. A smart Gief will just use that as a setup for jump in CC to go through them. There are no 100% safe anti airs. Rolento can also give him a hard match because he has some of the best pokes in the game(cr. fierce). However, he can't counter Gief's jumps cleanly a lot of times with the standing strong. It often trades. If they abuse ground pokes like Rolento's cr. fierce, Gief can bait it out and go for the jump in. You can also CC a whiffed move on reaction. I can't see a reason why Gief would not be good in A2. His jump in options, insane priority on certain normals, plus CC ability = too good. Very close to top 5.

    Everyone knows Chun Li is #1. Ryu, Ken, Rose, Sakura, Gief are probably the best set of characters. I'm not sure about Rose, however. It depends on several factors but mainly if you can/cannot get around the crouching strong. If you can take that weapon away from her, she will have a tough time winning.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    japan can't be that bad at a2, they whored out chun in the national tourney :)

    compare this to mvc2 where they picked dhalsim and evil sakura :eek:
  • SaBrESaBrE BAI BAI Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    japan got beat down for free from our players. japan does not like a2. they pretty much quit playing the game after the gamest tourney that ohnuki won and declared the game "garbage". and the gamest tourney took place only a couple months after the game was released iirc. omni, correct me if im wrong....

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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,234
    SaBrE wrote: »
    japan got beat down for free from our players. japan does not like a2. they pretty much quit playing the game after the gamest tourney that ohnuki won and declared the game "garbage". and the gamest tourney took place only a couple months after the game was released iirc. omni, correct me if im wrong....

    jae! sup homie! one of these days i will come down and see the carolina guys!

    The Japanese generally do not like games that are fast. MVC2 and Alpha2 fit that category, Alpha2 is slightly faster than Super turbo, KOF, Third Strike and all the other fighters Japan generally dominates.
  • RagingStormXRagingStormX Team Arcade Stream Joined: Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Why did you necro a 10 yr old thread.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,234
    10 yrs? WTF. lol
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