General character discussion (NO tier lists please)

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  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,911 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    KOH, when you're done with Olimar, do Ganondorf next!

    EDIT: on second thought, maybe I should cover his techniques since he's my main. Nevermind, man.
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  • -=KOH=--=KOH=- In Japan Joined: Posts: 1,572
    I'm about 40% done with the Olimar list, his is going to take the longest out of every character, his attacks have weird properties that need to be noted.

    Also, I'm going to K.O marth with all of his attacks to give you guys a general idea of what his best k.o's are, as well as test knock back at a few different percentages, its going to take a while.

    Also, I just got a capture card so I'll be able to record anything weird that I find.
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  • Omega ViscantOmega Viscant TIMTravel>TimeTravel Joined: Posts: 4,069 mod
    lol, i can tell you his best ko's - u-smash, f-smash, d-smash, blue pikmin forward or back-throw, purple pikmin up-throw, uair, and dair (to spike)

    ...seriously.
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  • scum gale 88scum gale 88 yo! It's SYBOK! Joined: Posts: 1,739
    Im having such a hard time countering metaknight, his attacks are just too fast!
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  • vasAZNion13vasAZNion13 Thank you Gene. Joined: Posts: 2,368
    i'm having a hard time against FD ledge. this character is just too good.
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  • scum gale 88scum gale 88 yo! It's SYBOK! Joined: Posts: 1,739
    i'm having a hard time against FD ledge. this character is just too good.

    ..............
    Im assuming that was some sort of jab at my previous post?
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  • vasAZNion13vasAZNion13 Thank you Gene. Joined: Posts: 2,368
    ..............
    Im assuming that was some sort of jab at my previous post?

    not really a jab, i was just taking ur wording format to make my crack at the FD ledge more clear.
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  • scum gale 88scum gale 88 yo! It's SYBOK! Joined: Posts: 1,739
    well, Im glad you gave that ledge a piece of your mind. FD ledge has caused its fair share of troubles for all of us, we dont need any more unwed teenage mothers.

    allow me to reword.

    Im having a difficult time countering metaknight, its hard to find an opportunity to attack since the majority of his moves (tornado! AAARGH!!) make it tough to move in for a hit. any tips for countering this masked golfball of pain? does meta even have any counter characters?
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  • EmblemLordEmblemLord Lord of all Lords Joined: Posts: 5,781
    Snake rapes MK hard.
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    well, Im glad you gave that ledge a piece of your mind. FD ledge has caused its fair share of troubles for all of us, we dont need any more unwed teenage mothers.

    allow me to reword.

    Im having a difficult time countering metaknight, its hard to find an opportunity to attack since the majority of his moves (tornado! AAARGH!!) make it tough to move in for a hit. any tips for countering this masked golfball of pain? does meta even have any counter characters?

    PROTIP: The top of mk's tornado is the most vulnerable, shield throwing is very effective against him as are most heavyweight and sword characters.
    Any of the top (snake n marth especially, but also rob, pit, tl, and zelda rape MK hard.

    Fixed:wink:
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • SN3SSN3S Scraggly Rogue Joined: Posts: 342
    So where's all the ganondorf love? :lol:

    Anyways, I figured I should start lurking around here since I love Brawl. I've got some vids up here if anyone wants to watch 'em. However, I'm pretty fail at the game, so whatever.

    See you all around.
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  • G.O.TG.O.T #1 Haggar fan Joined: Posts: 2,164
    So where's all the ganondorf love? :lol:

    Anyways, I figured I should start lurking around here since I love Brawl. I've got some vids up here if anyone wants to watch 'em. However, I'm pretty fail at the game, so whatever.

    See you all around.

    actually pretty good. Got some mix-ups to ya.
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  • No defenceNo defence idk -_- ? Joined: Posts: 1,025
    actually pretty good. Got some mix-ups to ya.

    I Find Toon Link really easy to control. Toon link is enjoyable to play with.

    I am a CVS 2 player . Never thought I would have fun playing Brawl. I hated on Smash, because None of the character did what I wanted them to do.( / fit my play style)

    For somebody with only 6 hours of smash game play under my belt do you smashers think

    Toon Link is a good starter character/ cuz I am a novice?.:wonder:
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    Toon link is a very well rounded character; he has decent projectiles, great smash attacks on the ground, even better aerial game (his dair is beastly), and because he can do everything reasonably well and is fairly easy to use imo he's on the the very best characters.

    I just started using him but my early impressions lead me to believe he has a lot of potential.
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • SN3SSN3S Scraggly Rogue Joined: Posts: 342
    I just started using him but my early impressions lead me to believe he has a lot of potential.

    QFT; He's very solid overall. If you enjoy playing as him, I don't see why not.

    I played metaknight last night, and because of you I used his neutral B. It is a beast :lol:
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  • scum gale 88scum gale 88 yo! It's SYBOK! Joined: Posts: 1,739
    Falco's awesome.

    fuck your fucking falco. its all about TEH BOWSAR!! ARF ARF ARF!
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  • Arkayne17Arkayne17 Stop it meg. Joined: Posts: 2,857
    fuck your fucking falco. its all about TEH BOWSAR!! ARF ARF ARF!

    Lol , Bowsercide FTW!

    So wait.... Bowser is a dog now? :lol:

    So is Lucas dead to the SRK folk : (.
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  • BigJonStud12BigJonStud12 Great Stick of DOOM Joined: Posts: 97
    Lol , Bowsercide FTW!

    So wait.... Bowser is a dog now? :lol:

    So is Lucas dead to the SRK folk : (.

    Who's Lucas again? :confused:




    Just kiddng :smile:!
    Every once in a while, I like to use Lucas. PK FIRE FOR THE ZONE! Though, I would use Bowser over Lucas at any tournament. But that's just my preference.
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  • Arkayne17Arkayne17 Stop it meg. Joined: Posts: 2,857
    Who's Lucas again? :confused:




    Just kiddng :smile:!
    Every once in a while, I like to use Lucas. PK FIRE FOR THE ZONE! Though, I would use Bowser over Lucas at any tournament. But that's just my preference.


    Lol , well I could understand Bowsercide over PKF hmmm.. not a hard choice eh?
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  • RekanoRekano ONE MORE ONCE Joined: Posts: 602
    fuck your fucking falco. its all about TEH BOWSAR!! ARF ARF ARF!

    THIS MAN HAS THE RIGHT IDEA!
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    So where's all the ganondorf love? :lol:

    Anyways, I figured I should start lurking around here since I love Brawl. I've got some vids up here if anyone wants to watch 'em. However, I'm pretty fail at the game, so whatever.

    See you all around.

    Gdorf's problem is the fact that his attacks and runspeed are all too sluggish to combo effectively.

    In those videos I suggest using less Thunderstomp and Fair, and after a Flame Choke use his Dtilt. It's a guaranteed hit. Also, seriously, a Dark Leap at close range vs Marth? Totally awesome. He can't counter or nothin.

    But still, not bad at all.

    EDIT: Oh! Also try using air Wizard's Foot a little later. If it comes out faster they can't react giving you the impact-damage.
  • Zero-SR388Zero-SR388 ODIUM Joined: Posts: 111
    Gdorf's problem is the fact that his attacks and runspeed are all too sluggish to combo effectively.

    In those videos I suggest using less Thunderstomp and Fair, and after a Flame Choke use his Dtilt. It's a guaranteed hit. Also, seriously, a Dark Leap at close range vs Marth? Totally awesome. He can't counter or nothin.

    But still, not bad at all.

    EDIT: Oh! Also try using air Wizard's Foot a little later. If it comes out faster they can't react giving you the impact-damage.

    You don't try to combo with Gannon.
    You only really combo up to 4 hits with him, and that's only if it's set up REALLY nice.

    Even though he's slow, he can still lock people down with his strength.
    And he can counter projectiles fairly easy.

    And his uair is REALLY good, and hits 360 degrees, and is a great edgegaurd.
    And his uair can also be combo'd after using his dthrow .
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    You don't try to combo with Gannon.
    You only really combo up to 4 hits with him, and that's only if it's set up REALLY nice.

    How the hell do you combo 4 hits with ganon? I main him and have never been able to do that.
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • MGSMGS RTJRecon Joined: Posts: 1,038
    how do you get the shadow link..not the creepy looking one with the red eyes i mean the one thats a complete shadow..u fight him in one of the solo event things so its been programmed into the game but is there anyway to make him playable?
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  • AQUA-PURAAQUA-PURA @theasianloner Joined: Posts: 1,634
    Are there any tutorials around?
    and is there a thread somewhere I can find all the acronyms and nick names etc? I don't get what tilt means mainly...
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  • BIG BAD MOGBIG BAD MOG Tough, yet Fluffy Joined: Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    What the heck is a tilt?
  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    it's one you press the directions stick slightly instead of fully and then A.
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • BIG BAD MOGBIG BAD MOG Tough, yet Fluffy Joined: Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Alright, I'll try that out. Sounds weird
  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    Yeah so I just started maining marth, trying to space correctly online is gay. He's got good ko power though on the tippers.
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • FOBioFOBio Whaddup!? Joined: Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    it's one you press the directions stick slightly instead of fully and then A.

    Dammit, I thought you can only do tilts by holding down the direction instead of tapping it. No wonder people can do tilts a lot more easily than I can. IE: I always jump before doing up tilt and sometimes I run instead of doing forward tilt.
    Why bring logic to a discussion?
  • Carbunkle FluxCarbunkle Flux Joined: Posts: 748
    One way to help this is to take off Up-Jump. You get so much more control over your air game when you do it that way IMO.
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    If you're heading to SB3, I'll run some Ganon/Marth matches with you. That's one of my favorite matches. :tup:

    Ganon is one of my mains as well. Haven't had ganon mirrors in a while.
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • shurfshurf Joined: Posts: 239
    For a sticky, its weird to see this thread hasn't been touched in ages.

    Anyway, I wanna bring up Yoshi since he used to be really under rated not too long ago. I would find it hard to believe if people still see him as low tier. Sooo many useful techs were discovered with him. His bair is rape. Bair->Utilt->Uair is rape even if it is a little predictable. I've seen Yoshis place high in regional tourneys so I'm actually glad I didn't quit maining him. So much potential...
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Yoshi is decent but never give up on your main. Before the game out i wanted to main ROB and been using him ever since but did not think he was going to be a top character.
  • Mambo SauceMambo Sauce Joined: Posts: 140
    How the hell do you dodge Metaknight's FS?

    anticipation...since ppl tend to try n mind game u and use the FS u can try n knock it out or anitcipate it and dodge..thats it really but tbh im not worried bout MK's FS its his damn tornado i cant stand Dx
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  • *P*L*U*R**P*L*U*R* Joined: Posts: 43
    The hitbox for his FS projects pretty far out but it's really narrow. Try staying above or below him until you can knock the Smash ball out of him.
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  • SmashchuSmashchu Joined: Posts: 124
    For a sticky, its weird to see this thread hasn't been touched in ages.

    Anyway, I wanna bring up Yoshi since he used to be really under rated not too long ago. I would find it hard to believe if people still see him as low tier. Sooo many useful techs were discovered with him. His bair is rape. Bair->Utilt->Uair is rape even if it is a little predictable. I've seen Yoshis place high in regional tourneys so I'm actually glad I didn't quit maining him. So much potential...

    I tend to disagree with most ranking of the characters, Yoshi being one of them. He's a good quick characters overall and he has a decent recovery now. His only problem are his smash moves aren't very strong, but otherwise, he's a good character.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I tend to disagree with most ranking of the characters, Yoshi being one of them. He's a good quick characters overall and he has a decent recovery now. His only problem are his smash moves aren't very strong, but otherwise, he's a good character.

    He would be if he could jump out of shield.



    When he's in his shield, he's 100% committed, which means good presspoure games rape him.


    Shield is so good in smash (low shield stun, low shield drop, easy perfect shield timing), that having a shield that forces you to be so committed is crippling.
  • Destruc(t)1veDestruc(t)1ve Just Call Me Fuller Joined: Posts: 1,008
    GnW FTW!!!
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