The Stick man cometh: Mr Game & Watch

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  • GorehoundGorehound Awesome, Awesome to the Max! Joined: Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Yea tell me about it. Snake is probably one of G&W's worst match ups (besides marth.)

    I can handle Marth players, I try to do some surprise attacks against him!

    But Link's bastard Arrow/Wind Boomerang/Bomb spam and Snakes bastard grenade spam destroys all of G&W strats, I can't even get near them for a clean hit :tdown:
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  • OromanOroman .... Joined: Posts: 584
    I can handle Marth players, I try to do some surprise attacks against him!

    But Link's bastard Arrow/Wind Boomerang/Bomb spam and Snakes bastard grenade spam destroys all of G&W strats, I can't even get near them for a clean hit :tdown:

    Yea but, when you get in close that's when you can take them down. As far as taking down Snake you'll need to pay attention to where he plants his bombs. Toon Link is easier for me than Link. Toon Link is light and that will work to your advantage.
  • PozerWolfPozerWolf Gummies, yum! ;o Joined: Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    G&W is so fuckin' good.


    Hey, supposedly its possible to link G&W down smash after a down throw.
    Is this true? I've seen people try to pull this off on me during tournaments, but I always tech it. Wondering if they are missing the timing, because it seems like people tend to make a big deal out of it when it comes to talking about G&W.
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  • mashermasher Chun's booty itches Joined: Posts: 348
    got any G&W match vids folks?
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  • Agent 54cAgent 54c I are a penguin! Joined: Posts: 393
    Has anyone tried edge-guarding with G&W's A rapid? My friend said it was possible.
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  • dizzynecrodizzynecro ゾインクス! ゾインクス! Joined: Posts: 959
    Game and watch is amazing in this game, A-tier for sure. Turtle(back air) rapes sheilds and is safe as hell, up air's new "pushing" effect is REALLY good, other than allowing you to annoy your opponent(which is good) You can space them for smash attacks or just keep them off the ground if they have a bad air game, (like olimar). Forward smash is reall strong now and its a little slow but lasts really long so it punishes spot dodge. Key has very little lag so its great, you can spike with it if you hit right but its hard. Also fastfalling the key accually slows it down to normal fastfall speed so you can mix it up to make it less punishable. Bucket is insane killing potential and great help in some match ups. Down smash kills even if you dont sweet spot and even easier if you do! forward air has an awesom hitbox just dont land until its gone. Dtilt is GREAT edge gaurding if you stand right at the edge and spam it, due to its huge hitbox. Its also just a really good poke. UP b is great because you are not vulerable afterward and upB->key->upB is really nice. nair is great for coming down since it combos into up tilt the air stuff.


    down throw can be used for tech chasing like ganon so its awesome.if they roll run over and grab them out of the end and do another down throw. If they just stand or do a getup attack sheild grab them and downthrow. it does not combo into down smash but if you tech chase with it, one thing people do is just sit there and you can punish with downsmash. it does combo into down tilt if they dont end up behind you. It can go on a long time if you guess right.
  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    If you want to get smash balls easily, use neutral air. You wouldn't believe how many times I grabbed the smash ball with that attack alone.
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  • NomacNomac Joined: Posts: 8
    I am G&W player since Melee and he's got pretty much good improvement since that time. Too bad most of his attack lost some knockback... The old neutral air with the parachute was really, not that I don't like the new one, but it's kind of different use now. I am not sure that G&W is a top tier though... he's been a lot improved from before but still have some problems. I don't understand why this character is so slow with his side dodge and cannot take too much damage, they should have at least make G&W side dodge faster...

    Anyway, I do have some trouble against Wolf theses days, fast attack, good priorities, and good range... If you think Snake or Marth are the word match up against G&W, that's not the case for me, it's really Wolf that is causing me trouble, if you have some hints to give, that would sure help me haha.

    But Top tier or not, I was able to get at the Final of a tournament organized in the school of my girlfriend, but I did lose to Ike... I was beating him until he spams me with Fair, but I did improved since that time, hoping that I will beat that guy the next time !

    And finally, if you want to add me for Smash, you can ! I do need more worthy opponent online (since I know only two people and they are not really good -_-) to improved my fighting against real people instead of CPU...
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  • ShintoShinto Mr. Solo Dolo Joined: Posts: 1,586
    And finally, if you want to add me for Smash, you can ! I do need more worthy opponent online (since I know only two people and they are not really good -_-) to improved my fighting against real people instead of CPU...

    Kool whats your location?


    oh yea I'm hoping on the G&W train cause he seems just right for me now.
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  • zakkyzakky rawr Joined: Posts: 1,340
    Just won a tourney today with G&W. The man is just too beastly. Turtle for life, but I really think what won it all for me was D-Throw into D-Tilt into tech chase. I racked up damage like a fiend in this manner. One thing I did notice throughout the whole tourney was Snake is a damn hard match-up. I think every other character is very manageable, but I had to work extra extra hard to beat every Snake I came up against. I was worried about Marth but Snake is so much scarier. Corneria helps a lot for this match-up though.
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  • NomacNomac Joined: Posts: 8
    Kool whats your location?

    I'm at Montreal, Canada so it can be trouble with the connection with some of you -_-

    Anyway, it's always better with player then CPU even with some lag...
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  • catchafirecatchafire My Crew Joined: Posts: 2,496
    I'm no expert at brawl, but had a good time playing with him today against my friend. I'm also not knowledgable of the game, but tried his Bair where I would turn the opposite way and then up and quick attack button. I'm not sure how to short hop, but I would like to learn. His projos are also excellent for keeping folks away...
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  • catchafirecatchafire My Crew Joined: Posts: 2,496
    How do I short hop?
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  • BigJonStud12BigJonStud12 Great Stick of DOOM Joined: Posts: 97
    How do I short hop?

    To short hop, you lightly tap the jump button. If you press it all the way down, then all you going to do is a normal jump.
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  • X_xX_x You mad? Joined: Posts: 468
    Noone shows G&W love?..= /. Game and watch is too beastly. I would still main him even his only move was down throw. Rar'ing bairs is too good.
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  • mashermasher Chun's booty itches Joined: Posts: 348
    Is it me or is G&W overrated? I think every1 tossed him on the top tier wagon a little to fast. If he fight a character with better priority he's basically fucked.
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  • X_xX_x You mad? Joined: Posts: 468
    Its because game and watch has alot of options and is one of the best overall characters in the game (imo). Plus, how many characters have batter priority then g&w? G dub can do so many different things and approach so many different ways. He has excellent recovery, high priority, ability to tech chase several moves, high knock back, pretty much immune to projectiles, amazing bair, low lag moves, and the list pretty much goes on and on.
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  • dizzynecrodizzynecro ゾインクス! ゾインクス! Joined: Posts: 959
    I think game and watch is underrated if anything lol, he's to good.
  • X_xX_x You mad? Joined: Posts: 468
    Game and watch is good no doubt but i don't see him being underrated. He's pretty much high tier in everyones tier list and i don't think he deserves to be top tier. GnW has a lot of shortcoming that stop him from progressing to top tier. Mainly his lightweight and predictable moves/approaches.
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  • omfgomfg Joined: Posts: 2,028
    Game and watch is good no doubt but i don't see him being underrated. He's pretty much high tier in everyones tier list and i don't think he deserves to be top tier. GnW has a lot of shortcoming that stop him from progressing to top tier. Mainly his lightweight and predictable moves/approaches.
    agreed. I don't get why anyone else doesn't see this. Hell even Jigglypuff makes his air shit worthless. Not to say that Jigglypuff shouldn't be able to, she's a master of the air and all. but that's just one of the examples of some of his air shit just.. not being all that great
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  • zakkyzakky rawr Joined: Posts: 1,340
    Doesn't matter how predictable his approach is, if the attack can't be shield grabbed or breaks through shields. Fortunately bair does both if spaced properly. G&W is too strong.
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  • omfgomfg Joined: Posts: 2,028
    Predictable can be very bad if it has a counter. It may not be able to be shield grabbed, but it still has weak points
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  • X_xX_x You mad? Joined: Posts: 468
    Doesn't matter how predictable his approach is, if the attack can't be shield grabbed or breaks through shields. Fortunately bair does both if spaced properly. G&W is too strong.

    Of course it matters how predictable he is. If i know your going to bair, i can easily hold my shield, spot dodge the last hit, and punish your during your few frames of lag. What other move of game and watch can break through shields? None.
    All his other moves can be shield grabbed except fair, and a sh'd fair is way too damn laggy and you're just asking to be punished.
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  • dizzynecrodizzynecro ゾインクス! ゾインクス! Joined: Posts: 959
    Of course it matters how predictable he is. If i know your going to bair, i can easily hold my shield, spot dodge the last hit, and punish your during your few frames of lag. What other move of game and watch can break through shields? None.
    All his other moves can be shield grabbed except fair, and a sh'd fair is way too damn laggy and you're just asking to be punished.

    If he's so predictable why is he still winning?
  • ShintoShinto Mr. Solo Dolo Joined: Posts: 1,586
    Of course it matters how predictable he is. If i know your going to bair, i can easily hold my shield, spot dodge the last hit, and punish your during your few frames of lag. What other move of game and watch can break through shields? None.
    All his other moves can be shield grabbed except fair, and a sh'd fair is way too damn laggy and you're just asking to be punished.

    Lulz.

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  • X_xX_x You mad? Joined: Posts: 468
    If he's so predictable why is he still winning?

    Because most people can't stop his approaches. Notice how hardly any g&w players win major tournaments other then noj, cosmo, and velocity. Yes, he's good. That's why he's high tier but to say he's underrated is silly.
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