Alpha 3: Juni

I Kei II Kei I God EmperorJoined: Posts: 230
I was asked to post my meager knowledge about Juni, so here we go. If anyone else has anything to add, or if they find anything amiss, feel free to correct me and let me know.

Also, I have to note that this is covering A-ism. I know that V-ism is the most widely used, and I'll be sure to add that info later, unless someone else puts it forth here beforehand.

Normals to keep in mind

s.MP - Her standing MP from afar, oddly enough, seems to work as a sufficient anti-air, so if your opponent jumps in deep, you can use this to push them back without too much worry.

c.MP - A nice poke to use, and it can be cancelled into her specials and supers as well.

s.HP - Not too much range, but it's actually pretty quick to come out for a HP
attack when compared to most other characters, and it has pretty good priority.
I've seen it snuff out some things it shouldn't have, either stopping them
completely or at the worst, trading hits with it. It also can be a killer on
your opponent's guard gauge.

c.HP - Got an opponent that likes to toss out their air attacks from afar often so that they can nail you as they land at a safe enough distance? This is a
nice answer to it against most characters in that situation. Just remember only to use it against somewhat far ranged air attacks, because in close, it's very likely it'll miss altogether.

s.MK - It has decent enough range and height to serve as a good corner pressure move for those times you want to keep your opponent locked down. If you can anticipate a jump attempt to escape the corner, toss this out to stop them in their tracks. Just be careful of Shoryuken-type moves and supers.

j.MK - You want to use this to stuff out your opponent when they jump. Put it out there as you rise up toward them in midair, while they're above you, since
its angle makes it a difficult move to land on an opponent underneath you or
completely grounded. Contrary to the way it looks, this is not a viable
cross-up move at all, as only the front leg will make contact.

c.MK - A really nice poking move to use. This has about as much range as her c.HK, but it's faster to come out, so it can beat out other characters'
crouching attacks often.

s.HK - The same normal that Cammy is notorious for, and for good reason.
This has about the same properties, such as working well as an anti-air
against far jumping attacks or keeping up a bit of pressure on an opponent,
and it comes out damned fast for an attack of its type, so don't be afraid
to send this out unless your opponent has meter, at which point, stick to
using it for pressuring, counterattacking and the like.

j.HK - It's good when you're coming in for rushdown purposes, but it's a
GREAT air-to-air attack. Use it when you and your opponent are both airborne
coming in at around the same height. Nine times out of ten, you can beat
them out. Otherwise, this should probably be your main attack as you come in,
since while her j.HP has about the same priority, it has less reach, and
retracts far too quickly, meaning you'd have to jump in deep to do anything
useful with it half the time.

Overhead: f+MK - I wouldn't have even bothered to mention this had I not
noticed anything about it that I felt was particularly noteworthy. It's fairly
fast for an overhead attack and deals two hits, one of which is a nice height
off the ground. I've seen it stop some characters' air attacks. It also starts
out with Juni *quickly* crouching low to the ground and rising, so timed well
enough, it can indeed save you from some of your opponent's normals while
dealing damage.

Special Moves

Cannon Spike: Charge d, u+K

This is the same as Cammy and Juli's Spike moves, and that includes the move's
priority and such as well. The big difference, of course, is that Juni's Spike
is a charge motion, and as such, pulling this out on your opponent suddenly is
an almost non-existant tactic with Juni, since any opponent worth their salt
will more likely than not be expecting the charge. Still, it's to be noted that
it DOES make a good anti-air, so the same warnings or Cammy and Juli apply,
those being that you are advised to use the LK version so long as you can help
it, since missing the move in its MK or HK version does nothing but leave you
open for pretty much any punishment your opponent can dish out.

Spiral Arrow: Charge b, f+k; can be done in air

This is the same as Cammy's, so as you would use Cammy's, try to make this hit
with the last inch of the move so that you'll be relatively safe as the move
ends. Otherwise, you're asking for trouble. You can also use it to get
underneath projectiles as well, so if your opponent is a fair distance away,
slip underneath and take them down with a well-timed Spiral Arrow. One HUGE
difference from Cammy's Spiral Arrow, though, is that Juni can actually do her
Spiral Arrow in the air (done by charging b, f+K before reaching the peak of
your jump). While Juni is airborne with this, she goes a good distance across
the screen towards your opponent, making it a really useful tool for getting
over projectiles or intercepting an unsuspecting opponent. Also, you don't have
the recovery time from the slide from the grounded version to worry about,
whether it's guarded or not, and if it is, against most characters, she stays
relatively safe, since she bounces back a decent distance. Definitely something
to keep your opponent on edge.

Hooligan Combination: hcf, u/f+P

Now, this move is EXACTLY like Cammy's, right down to the execution. You can
follow up with a grab with f+K when you get in close which changes depending
on your height in relation to the enemy's body or you can execute a sliding
kick by pressing nothing after the initial input. You can also press K to
cancel the move and land on your feet. While this move can be useful for
getting over projectiles, it's all a matter of timing, since the move has slow
startup as it is, and even then, I myself would use it sparingly because you
can't guard during the move, even when you cancel it to land on your feet. In
essence, you become a flying bullseye, especially to anti-air lovers, who'd
have a field day smacking her out of it.

Cannon Strike: qcf+K in the air during a forward jump

A diving kick that's only as useful as you make it. Juni drops straight back
down towards the ground with this. The distance she drops is determined by the
strength of the kick button you press. Doesn't have good enough priority to
contend with anti-airs, but it can definitely make a projectile happy opponent
sweat since you can use this to easily get in their face before their fireball
animation ends. Hitting this deep also makes for a nice starter for mixup
mindgames. Careful, though, because she'll rebound if it's blocked, similarly
to her Cannon Spike rebound, but higher so since the move starts in
midair...lots more punishment time for your opponent.

Mach Slide: qcf+K

One of the unique moves in Juni's aresenal. The strength of the kick button
used changes how far the teleport takes you, and while you are invincible
during the teleport up until the point Juni reappears, if your opponent
anticipates it, you'll get tossed or worse. A good way to use it (aside from
escaping/evading moves/projectiles) would be to throw off your opponent during
a rushdown. If, for example, you get your opponent to expect her Spiral Arrow
after you come in with a couple of attacks, you can do this to catch them off
guard for a throw (preferably her Earth Direct) or perhaps a super move. You can also chain this into her normals for mixups. The LK version can be used to blow the recovery off of a blocked heavy strike, so long as you don't become predictable with doing it.

Earth Direct: 360+P

As with the other 360 grabs in the game, the range and strength change with the
strength of the punch button pressed. LP gives the most range, but is weakest,
while HP gives the least range and is strongest. Good times to use this one
are...well, any times that you know you can land a grab without fail, if you're
decent at the 360 motion, but otherwise, good opportunities present themselves
after landing deep Cannon Strikes or getting in your opponent's face with
cancelled Hooligan Combinations and Mach Slides.

Psycho Shield: f+PPP after guarding an opponent's attack

Exactly like in the vs. games, Juni pushes her opponent back...WAY back. Almost
across the entire screen back, in fact. With this, Juni should never be much of
a victim to rushdown games, let alone being guard crushed. Get it down as best
you can and it'll make Juni a lot more bothersome to deal with for your
opponents.

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Super Moves

Spin Drive Smasher: Charge db, df, db, uf+K

Despite the more complicated motion, this is the same as Cammy's and Juli's
moves of the same name, with the same priority, as well as the same drawbacks
that said move suffers from, such as being highly punishable if blocked. It can
still be used for combos with Juni, but because of the move's execution, her
combos tend to be far more specific and situational in nature. Be careful. Use
this one pretty much only when you know for sure you'll connect with it.

Psycho Streak: Charge b, f, b, f+P

Juni summons Bison who executes a Psycho Crusher on the opponent. This is
basically her super projectile, though it emanates from a ways in front of her
instead of close to her, meaning that if your opponent is near enough to you,
they can do whatever to make you pay for the mistake of having used it, and
what's worse, they have plenty of time to do so, since she stands there
saluting for about another second or so after Bison's left the screen. So,
where are the good points in this move? As stated, it's basically her super
projectile, meaning it will snuff out your opponent's projectiles, with
stronger levels of it able to get through some super projectiles other
characters may send your way. It also can't be blocked in the air, so thanks to
the speed at which Bison actually comes out and flies forward, it's great to
use when your opponent decides to jump back to try and get some space.

- - - - - -

Mixups

One nice thing that sets Juni apart from Juli and Cammy is the fact she has
more options to fall back on than they do.

Some things to do, for example, are jumping in with a HK and landing with a
c.MP, then going into a Spiral Arrow. Once your opponent starts to expect that, instead of doing another Arrow, go into a Mach Slide to get in their face to catch them with a throw, if they're unsuspecting. Said time is a great opportunity for an Earth Direct.

Another big thing to keep in mind with Juni is the invincibility of her Mach
Slides. Provided you don't become predictable with them, and your timing is
decent enough, you can bait your opponent into doing a move, then Mach Slide
through it, right into their face for some punishment.

The midair Spiral Arrow will have anyone on their toes wary about traversing the air to reach you, so if possible, try to keep it charged so you'll almost always have it ready for use as they lift off.

Combos

due to the nature of the execution of her techniques, Juni's combos are rather limited. Still, keeping what she can do in note is all the better for you.

j.HK, c.MP xx Spiral Arrow - Be careful when using this one, because against
some characters, the Spiral Arrow won't come out fast enough to combo.

j.HK, c.MP xx Cannon Spike - Not much to say about this one, except that hitting
it makes for a good setup for a Psycho Streak if you can anticipate your
opponent trying to recover.

j.HK, c.MP xx Spin Drive Smasher - Similar to the combo dealing with the Spiral
Arrow, except you can have a level 2 or 3 to use in place to extend the reach
of the first part of it to connect more easily.

j.HK, s.HP xx Psycho Streak - This one is, of course, exclusive to Juni. Bison
comes out quite a ways in front of her, so the Psycho Streak can hit an
opponent from the distance the s.HP will knock your opponent.
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Comments

  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    The untapped potential of Juni =D
    Question... How do you select Juni on the arcade version? (If she's even on it) =/
    I'd like to practice with her if I can =P
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  • I Kei II Kei I God Emperor Joined: Posts: 230
    There's a code for that.

    From GameFAQs: Secret Charecter: Juni

    Highlight Karin for at least 3 seconds, then enter either of the following codes:

    - Highlight Charle or Rolento press Left to reveal a random select box. At the random select box hold left and press any button. Highlight Sagat or Gen and Press Right to reveal a random select box, hold right and press any button.
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  • inthestointhesto Guilty what? Joined: Posts: 151
    Good starting guide for a character I never get to see played. I'm trying to pick up Juni since I'm interested in her pushblock and teleport, but I don't really have much of a handle on her basics.

    I do think you should add that her j.short works as a crossup.

    I'd also like to put a question for V-Juni on the table: When I try to do her mid-screen VC, I can start with the s.hp -> b, f + mk -> s.hk -> d, u+hk, but when I go for the next forward Spiral Arrow, I always get the teleport. Anything I can do to ensure I get the right move or do I just need more practice?
  • I Kei II Kei I God Emperor Joined: Posts: 230
    Good starting guide for a character I never get to see played. I'm trying to pick up Juni since I'm interested in her pushblock and teleport, but I don't really have much of a handle on her basics.

    I do think you should add that her j.short works as a crossup.

    I'd also like to put a question for V-Juni on the table: When I try to do her mid-screen VC, I can start with the s.hp -> b, f + mk -> s.hk -> d, u+hk, but when I go for the next forward Spiral Arrow, I always get the teleport. Anything I can do to ensure I get the right move or do I just need more practice?

    While j.LK DOES indeed work as a crossup, both the guard and hit stun are simply too short for it to matter much by the time she lands, so it's barely worth mentioning aside from getting in that extra bit of damage.

    Yeah, sounds like your execution is just slightly off is all. I had the same problem for the longest myself, but it isn't too terribly difficult to get down. My problem was that I'd slide my finger from back to forward, which would result in her teleport popping out at unneeded times.
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  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    While j.LK DOES indeed work as a crossup, both the guard and hit stun are simply too short for it to matter much by the time she lands, so it's barely worth mentioning aside from getting in that extra bit of damage.

    However Kei, after the j.LK crossup, if you Activate the VC as soon as you land, that won't matter (Tested on Akuma's wakeup). You can then follow into low attacks as the shadow images continue to attack overhead, making this little situation unblockable for the opponent.

    EDIT: Nevermind, it does combo into c.LK even without the V-ism, but the timing is just a tad bit strict.
    I'd also like to put a question for V-Juni on the table: When I try to do her mid-screen VC, I can start with the s.hp -> b, f + mk -> s.hk -> d, u+hk, but when I go for the next forward Spiral Arrow, I always get the teleport. Anything I can do to ensure I get the right move or do I just need more practice?

    What are you on are you using? PS2, PS1, DC, Emulator, Arcade Stick, Keyboard, Controller?
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  • inthestointhesto Guilty what? Joined: Posts: 151
    I was wondering what Kei was talking about, since I've definitely done crossup j.lk, c.lkx2 -> Cannon Spike plenty of times. V-ism only might explain it, since I only use Juni in V-sim.

    And for the record, I'm using an arcade stick, which is what really confuses me. I'm almost entirely sure I'm not hitting down at all when I do the Spiral Arrow, but I know my execution is pretty crap to begin with.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    It's probably a low-tier crossup xD
    Some like to blame emulators and/or converters if they're using they're using computers and watnot...
    In any case, I honestly wish I knew how to help you. Perhaps it's just a matter of practice(?) =/
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  • I Kei II Kei I God Emperor Joined: Posts: 230
    If you're using an arcade stick, then yeah, you just need to work on your execution a bit more. :3

    And, about that crossup, it definitely is a V-ism only thing. I was playing against a friend of mine earlier while using Juni in A-ism, crossed him up deep as I could with a j.LK. Sure enough, he was able to block everything else I did upon landing.

    That, and cross-up j.LK, c.LKx2 -> Cannon Spike wouldn't work otherwise because her c.LK isn't a cancellable normal under regular circumstances.
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  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    Oh, so it 'is' a V-Ism only thing =O
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  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942

    Here.

    The doll's j.LK is a valid crossup, but it's difficult to use on standing thin characters. It's much easier to land on crouching characters and fat characters in general.

    The best setups for it are off a sweep or cannon drill/spiral arrow midscreen.

    Against characters who get up fast you have to delay your jump a bit in order for the j.LK to hit.

    The reason to use it is the reason why anyone uses crossups in SFA3: it's ambiguous left/right and standard high/low/throw mixup, and if timed right it's reversal-safe. And it can also be used as a tick throw since it gives frame advantage and pushes them toward you.

    I have no idea what version of the game Juni's c.LK is uncancellable or if there even is such a version. Her c.LK is cancelable in the arcade version and the PS2 SFAA.

    I also have some of her V-ism combos posted .
    Let's play.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033

    Here.

    The doll's j.LK is a valid crossup, but it's difficult to use on standing thin characters. It's much easier to land on crouching characters and fat characters in general.

    The best setups for it are off a sweep or cannon drill/spiral arrow midscreen.

    Against characters who get up fast you have to delay your jump a bit in order for the j.LK to hit.

    The reason to use it is the reason why anyone uses crossups in SFA3: it's ambiguous left/right and standard high/low/throw mixup, and if timed right it's reversal-safe. And it can also be used as a tick throw since it gives frame advantage and pushes them toward you.

    I have no idea what version of the game Juni's c.LK is uncancellable or if there even is such a version. Her c.LK is cancelable in the arcade version and the PS2 SFAA.

    I also have some of her V-ism combos posted .

    Noted =D Seems she has to be consistent with Crossup+Mixup tactics.
    And some good stuff rather. Would you happen to have Juni matcups as well?
    I'd like to know the matches that are advantageous and disadvantageous to her.
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  • Xenozip.Xenozip. what a nincowpoop Joined: Posts: 3,942
    Nah, I don't know her matchups, I prefer Cammy to Juni.
    Let's play.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    Nah, I don't know her matchups, I prefer Cammy to Juni.

    Same here rather :woot:
    I main Cammy myself ^^ So what about Cammy matchups?
    I mean, similarities with Juni considered, that only means so much =P
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  • RagingStormXRagingStormX Team Arcade Stream Joined: Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I love xenozip's juni vid, im tryna learn her. One of her best moves is her air cannon drill. You can do it so low off the ground that it looks like a regular cannon drill.
  • Deacon_nccDeacon_ncc Joined: Posts: 32
    I didn't know about her air cannon drill. I was messing with dive kick stuff. If you do it though you have to hit it so it almost whiffs in front if you want to have any follow up options. I was also gonna post the j.lk -> 360+p tick, but somebody beat me to it.

    My question is concerning her VC as well. Could somebody give me an execution tip or two for not getting the teleport? I can't do VC's that include b,f in general, which is why I just pretty much don't play Vega as well, even though I would like to.
  • AYGCSMDAYGCSMD Joined: Posts: 98
    I am the lone Juni player in my area. Hooray for originality.

    What's the timing on her Psycho Shield?
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    If you want to play Juni at her peak, you should play her as a semi-turtle character and sit just outside their attack range. A blocked low air drill is 99% safe against most characters from any range other than point blank and knocks down. Pushblock also gets you out of guard crush situations, unblockables and any variety of potential mix-ups. Her footsies are also strong thanks to her walk-speed and c.RH/s. RH, and she can play plenty of wake-up/jump-in games with her target combos and her command throw. Her teleport also recovers deceptively fast and can be good for escaping and baiting activations.

    If she's got a drill charged, there's no way for the opponent to safely approach her other than walking in unless they want to jump into a cannon spike or blow some meter. If you watch a top level Juni player like the one from the last Vegas cup, people fighting her are forced to slowly inch their way towards her because they're paranoid about getting hit.

    Her positioning game is also really strong since pushblock sends you back quite a ways, and you can easily corner someone very quickly by using their own offense against them. It can also be used to keep cornered opponents where you want them and to punish moves with frame disadvantage by keeping you right next to them.

    She slows down the pace of the game by an immense amount unless the other person wants to walk into a ton of air drills. If you'll notice, Juni players tend to win a lot by timeout (or close to it). A good Juni player will be buffering air drills constantly and doing a good job of masking it.

    I think she's by far one of the most solid characters in the game. Her main weakness being that she has trouble making comebacks if the other person has a big lead and forces her to come to them. She has the tools to get a lead and then keep it for a long time while taking minimal damage. If the opponent starts to get frustrated and impatient then you've probably won because they'll keep taking damage and before they know it, there's 20 seconds left on the clock.

    If you want to learn her quickly and you have GGPO, play Alioune. He has an incredibly frustrating V-Juni even though she's not his main. Until you learn to read his movements better, you'll swear he doesn't have a charge stored or doesn't have enough time to get one and then you'll eat another air drill.
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  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    Is there a frame data chart for Juni/Juli/Cammy?
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  • AYGCSMDAYGCSMD Joined: Posts: 98
    If you watch a top level Juni player like the one from the last Vegas cup, people fighting her are forced to slowly inch their way towards her because they're paranoid about getting hit.
    Any videos?
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    http://www.geocities.jp/vegascup07/douga.htm

    From the last Vegas Cup 2 on 2 tournament. VER teamed up with a V-Juni player and made it to semifinals, I believe (Krusher and a Sakura player got first unless I'm interpreting it wrong). This Juni player could've stood to use pushblock a little more though.

    http://www.geocities.jp/vegascup07/080831i.wmv

    Here's what I mean. She runs the timer out on Sakura both rounds, and even the round that Sakura wins, it took her almost the full 90 seconds to do so. That's S too. It's not some random scrub. He changes his approach and tries to go on the offensive against the Gouki player, but he ends up losing. I'm assuming because his dive kick makes turtling less effective.
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  • AYGCSMDAYGCSMD Joined: Posts: 98
    http://www.geocities.jp/vegascup07/douga.htm

    From the last Vegas Cup 2 on 2 tournament. VER teamed up with a V-Juni player and made it to semifinals, I believe. This Juni player doesn't use the pushblock often enough though. Him and Alioune take a similar approach, but Alioune pushblocks almost everything.

    http://www.geocities.jp/vegascup07/080831i.wmv

    Here's what I mean. She runs the timer out on Sakura both rounds, and she loses to the V-Gouki player, but look how careful they are around her at mid-range when they see her crouching. The Akuma player less so because he can just dive kick in. That's a tough match-up for her.

    Thanks. This should be helpful.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    this is very impressive. excellent job!
  • AlegrettoAlegretto The King of Breakfast. Joined: Posts: 411
    Great thread! I've always mained Juni, but i gotta admit i stil have ways to go with her, specially regarding v-ism (i still play her in A-ism). My Karin and Vega (Claw) are much, much better, and i don't even use them so much nowadays. Hopefully all of this will help me play a Juni that will strike fear in the heart of my enemies! :P.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    You know, peeps, there's some hidden moves for Juni. Same goes with Juli
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    Aren't those hidden moves for when both Juni and Juli are on the same screen??? =?
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Something like this my good man, yes but there are some moves which they have by themselves.

    Here's one


    http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp121/ChronoWarrior/050305122612141.gif
  • TrygonTrygon Pupununu Joined: Posts: 67
    Does Juni have a fighting chance against Adon at all?
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    You mean like in canon, or like against someone in the game?

    I'd say yes :D tbh

    but that's just me.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    I've been looking for Cammy matchups in the entirety myself. I still have no information on ANY of Cammy's matchups. Let alone, Juni D=
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    Im looking for Juni & Juli ones. Nothing else. You could try the Warrior's Fate Thread on the FanFic Library, they could probably help.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    I meant for matchups. I could care less about canon or fanfics >.>
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    You could look around in other SF forums.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    That is if Xenozip or Sabre doesn't know =P
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Juni's a pretty badass chara, the only thing is that she's hard to master. once you master her, you're gonna kick a lotta ass, matchups i don't pay much attention to, but I just wanna know about her matchups.
  • TrygonTrygon Pupununu Joined: Posts: 67
    You mean like in canon, or like against someone in the game?

    I'd say yes :D tbh

    but that's just me.

    Sorry I should have been more spicific in what I was asking.

    Alright how about this then. Does she stand a chance in the game aganist a X-ism Adon? How would/should the match up go?
  • Daidoji KageDaidoji Kage Unsafe on hit... Joined: Posts: 1,944
    Sorry I should have been more spicific in what I was asking.

    Alright how about this then. Does she stand a chance in the game aganist a X-ism Adon? How would/should the match up go?

    Should be pretty easy for Juni.

    Adon only has one "safe" means of approaching her (hcb+k).

    I don't see why Juni can't turtle this match away.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Me either, she's a pretty badass character also.
  • TrygonTrygon Pupununu Joined: Posts: 67
    Should be pretty easy for Juni.

    Adon only has one "safe" means of approaching her (hcb+k).

    I don't see why Juni can't turtle this match away.

    Alright thanks, Ill try this against my friend who mains X-ism Adon. He also uses X-ism Sagat. How about some tips for that match up too. Oh I forgot to say, I play Juni on V-ism and I do abuse her vs. push back move so much. And its funny to see my friends X Adon's super miss so much chip damage because of it.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Alright thanks, Ill try this against my friend who mains X-ism Adon. He also uses X-ism Sagat. How about some tips for that match up too. Oh I forgot to say, I play Juni on V-ism and I do abuse her vs. push back move so much. And its funny to see my friends X Adon's super miss so much chip damage because of it.

    Two words.

    Don't Jump.

    Jumping is bad in that fight.:shake:
  • AlegrettoAlegretto The King of Breakfast. Joined: Posts: 411
    Thats three words :P

    But yeah Juni is super badass.

    Im totally back to SFA3 nowadays.
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  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,033
    We should play on GGPO sometime~
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  • xeboxebo Joined: Posts: 40
    Does anybody have any match vids I should look at? I have seen a few of Alioune from GGPO but any other suggestions?

    Also when I watch his matches I notice he doesn't use the command grab much or at all. Does anyone know why? Is it worse than the regular throw somehow?
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  • RagingStormXRagingStormX Team Arcade Stream Joined: Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Alioune is one of the better players I seen in A3 on ggpo, he would wreck most people. Watching him should be fine. I don't think I seen any good Juni's in ggpo ever.
  • xeboxebo Joined: Posts: 40
    why is she not considered better? is it damage? she seems to be able to stay out of a lot of bs while having some of her own. either way i'm having fun with this again, doing ok vs akuma minding my spacing and abusing push block, wondering about the 'gief matchup seems impossible to keep him out
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    ...its like i have real life super meters... " -skisonic
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