Saulabi thread

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Saulabi thread

First:
The main authority about Korean arcade parts on SRK is Laugh.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/member.php?u=18843


Saulabi is the best known joy stick from Korea.
From time to time there pops up a Saulabi topic on Shoryuken - Home.
I would find it very handy if it was in one topic so I made this topic to show some Swords(wo)man love.

Why should you get one?
- They are easy to obtain.
- They are generally inexpensive.
- You maybe like the joy stick.
- You might like the button lay-out.
- You want the casing for a modification project. (Saulabi modding tutorial by Laugh.)

Official Korean website:
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Joy stick
It uses a MyoungShin Fanta joy stick.
It is a joy stick with a rubber bat top and no restrictor plate so you can make a circle.
Korean joy sticks use a rubber ring instead of a spring
so that is where that wine gum feeling comes from.

However they put in one randomly so you can either end up with a stiff one or a more looser one.
You could get one with micro switches,
which makes the clicking sound
or one with leaf switches.

For example the one I have gotten originaly is pretty good:
Saulabi SPS-1000 Original Joy Stick

It can be easily replaced with a better Korean joy stick by just unscrewing the stock one and screw in the new one.
- MyoungShin Fanta (Hard, medium and soft rubber ring.)
- TaeYoung Fanta (Hard rubber ring only.)
- Crown
Topic about Korean joy sticks: Korean sticks [web: stick.pe.kr], experience?

Buttons
The stock buttons are good enough already but they feel quite hollow.
They are flat or flat and steep off diagonally
Their diameter is 28 mm (twenty-eight millimeters).
They are stuck to the printed circuit board which is floating. (Buttons on printed circuit board.)

They can easily be replaced with Crown buttons.
- Crown CWB 203 A (snap-ins) (terminals, side)
- Crown CWB 203 C (screw-ins)
These are flat buttons.

Might you decide to replace them,
you will have to replace them all,
because Crown buttons are longer.

To remove the stock buttons you you will have to de-solder
the points from the bottom which is the best and safest way.


Crown CWB 203 A

The Crown CWB 203 A might be easier because they have prongs that you can bend to make it fit
and let the printed circuit board hang like it did with the stock buttons.

Saulabi's button holes are perfect for Crown CWB203A buttons (since the stock buttons are modeled after them) and will fit nicely. However, the soldering points for the buttons on the PCB are solder together than the CWB203A's prongs. The easiest way I've found to make it fit is to bend the prongs on the CWB203A buttons like this. Be careful when you bend them as I've broke off a few prongs by bending them too much too quickly.

CWB203A_to_Saulabi.JPG

It's hard to make nice 90-degree bends like in the picture above because the prongs are slightly too thick and short, but you get the idea.

Now you can just insert the prongs to the Saulabi PCB and solder them.

Alternatively you can add quick-disconnect terminals to the Crown CWB 203 A.
Crown CWB 203 A with quick-disconnect terminal

Crown CWB 203 C

Wire up the buttons.
Crown CWB 203 C wired.
You can solder them directly to the printed circuit board.
The "L" shape is the ground.

I decided to keep it modular and wired the buttons and the printed circuit board separately and connect them with a barrier strip.
Wired printed circuit board.
Printed circuit board and buttons connected.

I tried to daisy-chain the ground but that did not work on my printed circuit board.

What I used to solder is:
- Soldering Iron 30 Watts (thirty Watts)
- Soldering Wire 60/40 Sn/Pb
- Stranded wire AWG24

There is no clearance for the screws when using Crown CWB 203 C.
Screw clearance.
A tip I got from Laugh is:
Put the screw there and screw the button in to the screw.

Casing
Measurements: L 38 cm * W 21 cm * H 09 cm (According to Saulabi.)
The top panel is slightly angled to match Korean arcade cabinets.
Base bottom measurements: L 28.5 cm * W 17.5 cm

Opening up the Saulabi.
Pull out the four rubber feet at the bottom and unscrew the screws.
From stock you will see a weight plate at the bottom. (Metal weight plate screwed on bottom.)
The rest is on the top panel. (Inside of top panel.)

Saulabi Joy stick versions:

There is no easy way to see what kind of Saulabi it is.
There are several colour schemes.
You could look at the connector to see for what system it is.

PlayStation and PlayStation 2
- SPS-1000
- SPS-1000 Vibration ( )
- SPS-3000

Button Placement:
Select Start
L1 [] /\ R1
L2 O X R2

It seems that most do not work with a PlayStation to Something Else converter,
or it works partially.
The MayFlash X-JoyBox (PlayStation to Xbox converter) seems to work with it.

PlayStation 3
- 4K (Works with the PC Plug and Play.)

Button Placement:
Select Start
L1 [] /\ R1
L2 O X R2

PC
- Online Black
- Online White
- SCS-2000
- Premium

Button Placement:
9 10
5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4

The PC versions needs the Saulabi Keyset program to work.
Original: [url] http://www.isaulabi.com/Saulabi.exe[/url]
English language Saulabi Keyset program by Xorcist: Saulabi_English.zip

Where to get them:
- eTokki.com (Also for Korean arcade parts.)
- http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174859 (Laugh)
- ???? ???? ??32? ?? ???? ??? ??????
- http://www.play-asia.com/ (Random select on micro switched or leaved joy stick.)
- http://www.saulabi.nl/ (European distributor, you can probably ask them for one with micro switches, info@saulabi.nl.)


Please inform me about things that I need to add and incorrect statements that needs to be corrected and things like that.

Now let's play powerful games and enjoy fancy look of the joy stick!
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Comments

  • tl613tl613 Joined: Posts: 1,752
    :tup: Nice thread. Very informative. Maybe this will increase the popularity of Saulabis and Korean parts in general. I wish I didn't have to sell mine, I no longer have Powerful Game :sad:
  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    Saulabi Online Black Stick

    Hey brotha thanks for the invite to the thread. Nice job :tup:
    I personaly have the Saulabi Online Black Stick and would recomend it to anyone looking for a stick for PC. The first awsome thing is that there is no converter needed so you don't have to worry about delay. That was one of my big fears in deciding on which would be the first real stick I own.

    Next is the slanted surface. It's a slightly slanted surface ( not much ) but it makes the stick all the more confertable.

    Button layout : I am a pretty big person so my hands are big and I found the layout PERFECT
    for doing Lariats with Geif.

    Stock Stick : the stock stick was decent enough to increase my play ability by a whole lot after macking the switch from pad to stick. My opinion is it is awsome for 360 characters / good for Shotos / but a little to big of a throw for charge characters.
    The stick makes NO clicking sound when moved around and has a good amount of resistance
    but definetly not enough to rape your hand. I have big hands and I hold it my pinky tucked under and the rest of my fingers wrapped around the stick and it fits in my hand so it reaches the top of my index finger.

    Finding Angles : Only problem I've had is to find downback on both sides but not consistently.
    Think of it more like during a match I didn't concentrate enough to pull a little more at an angle
    and just kinnda relaxdly pulled almost downback and didn.t block. Top corners I have had not a single problem. My prob. with downback is pribably due more to the fact that I hold the stick in my lap in all kinda postions. Like I have my feet kicked up or just stining straight up.


    Stock Buttons : I made the mistake of SLAMMING out lariates. My shit arrived March 16th,
    Jab button broke on the 26th of March. Keep in mind I was SLAMMING Lariates.
    They don't feel stiff or loose. They are responsive enough so that I learned how to Kara cxl
    and Super cxl in ST with.


    Well that is my contribution to your thread brotha. It's more of a personal experience and not as tech savy as your post but I'm new to sticks and the terminology used. I wrote my post this way because when I was trying to decide which stick to buy I wish someone would have wrote a post like this for the "stick noobs"


    Ok now you mentioned two methods for swapping buttons. My question is what is teh difficulty involved ( keep in mind I have no electronics knowledge and completely new to sticks ) and is it safe to attempt to "pull of the PCB " since it's soldered on.

    If you have the time could I please request of you some step by step instruccions on swapping out the buttons. For now all I wanna do is change the position of one of the far right buttons to the far left since it's an 8 button stick.

    Thanks again for the invite. Sanjuro the Ronin and EvilSamurai might wanna take a look at this thread too.
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  • EvilSamuraiEvilSamurai Joined: Posts: 2,668
    I believe you can simply pop new arcade grade Crown buttons right into the pcb with no soldering as the buttons are actually not soldered to the pcb but have their quick disconnectes inserted into a slot on the PCB. You should search tech talk for more info. As for replacing the stick, all you need is a screwdriver and you simply unscrew the stock stick, remove the quick disconnects from the switches, screw in the new stick, and attach the quick disconnectes to the microswitches on the new stick. You should contact laugh if you want to get new buttons and a joystick for your Saulabi as he is basically the go to guy for Korean parts.
  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    Ok now you mentioned two methods for swapping buttons. My question is what is teh difficulty involved ( keep in mind I have no electronics knowledge and completely new to sticks ) and is it safe to attempt to "pull of the PCB " since it's soldered on.

    If you have the time could I please request of you some step by step instruccions on swapping out the buttons. For now all I wanna do is change the position of one of the far right buttons to the far left since it's an 8 button stick.

    Thanks again for the invite. Sanjuro the Ronin and EvilSamurai might wanna take a look at this thread too.

    If it is so tight that pulling does not work, do not do it, it is dangerous.

    De-solder the two buttons that you want to swap.
    Currently I do not have pictures of something being de-soldered.
    First you put on de-soldering braid on the contact point
    then heat it up with a soldering iron.
    The contact point should be loose after that.

    If you do not feel comfortable doing this let someone do it for you if it is possible.
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  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    I believe you can simply pop new arcade grade Crown buttons right into the pcb with no soldering as the buttons are actually not soldered to the pcb but have their quick disconnectes inserted into a slot on the PCB.

    They all should be replaced then because of the different heights of the stock buttons and the Crown buttons.
    The thing is that the stock buttons are really tightly attached.
    The Crown CWB 203 A still has prongs that do not fit directly on the slow disconnects from the stock buttons.
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    thank you for this
    since 2005
  • EvilSamuraiEvilSamurai Joined: Posts: 2,668
    They all should be replaced then because of the different heights of the stock buttons and the Crown buttons.
    The thing is that the stock buttons are really tightly attached.
    The Crown CWB 203 A still has prongs that do not fit directly on the slow disconnects from the stock buttons.

    ok I guess djfrijoles will want Crown CWB 203 C buttons then if he does not want to solder.
  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    thank you for this
    Great!
    ok I guess djfrijoles will want Crown CWB 203 C buttons then if he does not want to solder.

    Actually the Crown CWB 203 A , the snap-in buttons would be easier
    since you need to solder on the C version.
    The prongs from the A version could be bend a little to make it fit
    and keep the hanging printed circuit board system.
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  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Very informative and interesting thread. As much as I know about Korean sticks and parts, I've never seen or known about the pink Saulabi stick for PC.

    I'll help out with some info.

    Saulabi's button holes are perfect for Crown CWB203A buttons (since the stock buttons are modeled after them) and will fit nicely. However, the soldering points for the buttons on the PCB are solder together than the CWB203A's prongs. The easiest way I've found to make it fit is to bend the prongs on the CWB203A buttons like this. Be careful when you bend them as I've broke off a few prongs by bending them too much too quickly.

    CWB203A_to_Saulabi.JPG

    It's hard to make nice 90-degree bends like in the picture above because the prongs are slightly too thick and short, but you get the idea.

    Now you can just insert the prongs to the Saulabi PCB and solder them.

    BTW, I would recommend desoldering the stock buttons instead of using force since that might damage the soldering points. The easiest ways to desolder the old buttons is to use either a desoldering braid aka wick (I've yet to use one of these yet, but it's easy from what I've heard) or a solder sucker (this is what I use, and it's also easy). You can also get a desoldering iron, which is basically a solder sucker/bulb and a soldering iron put together into one.
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  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    As much as I know about Korean sticks and parts, I've never seen or known about the pink Saulabi stick for PC.

    I saw it here:
    http://www.stick.pe.kr/shop/images/saulabi_pink.jpg

    I can not read Korean so I am not sure about the name.
    I am even thinking about an April fool's joke.

    If I would get that one everybody would leave my joy stick alone.
    That is why I have pink memory cards.
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  • DipezDipez Joined: Posts: 1,625
    this shits top tier. i would give you rep if i could. good job Takahashi0.
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  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    this shits top tier. i would give you rep if i could. good job Takahashi0.

    Thanks James123!
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  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    Ok today is April first and a second button just broke =(
    Now I don't have Forward kick so I'm outta teh fight for a bit.
    Mr. Laugh I will be hitting you up for an order as soon as I get teh soldering tools. Looks like I will be forced to learn how to solder after all.

    I guess this establishes just how shitty teh stock buttons really are because I took extra care not to bang out moves after the first button broke. So any one considering this stick be sure to keep that in mind.
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  • VPTVPT I give up... Joined: Posts: 765
    Dude I was thinking of starting this type of topic just a few days ago. Glad you beat me to it and saved me all the work >_<. Plus you know a ton more than me, lol. I was just going to start with basics and edit it with information as it comes.

    Good shit, Takaashi0 and laugh!
  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    I guess this establishes just how shitty teh stock buttons really are
    because I took extra care not to bang out moves after the first button broke.
    So any one considering this stick be sure to keep that in mind.

    I never had problems with the stock buttons.
    They just feel hollow to me.
    They where still working when I replaced them.
    I used the stock buttons for two years.

    Good shit, Takaashi0 and laugh!
    Thanks vpt_whatup!
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  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    I never had problems with the stock buttons.
    They just feel hollow to me.
    They where still working when I replaced them.
    I used the stock buttons for two years.


    Must have been the original banging I did that weakend them then. I should mention that if I had the chance to pick a stick again I would pick the Saulabi all over again.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Does anyone do modding for those so I can use them on a Xbox 360 (like the VSHG)?
  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    Does anyone do modding for those so I can use them on a Xbox 360 (like the VSHG)?

    Maybe someone can pad hack a Xbox 360 controller for you:
    Trading Post


    You could try a pad hack yourself:
    *The "padhacking" thread*.

    It probably looks similar to this one:
    HOWTO: Mod VSHG single switch PS3 / X360

    You probably can attach the Xbox 360 controller printed circuit board under the Saulabi printed circuit board.
    There are large solder points accessible from there.

    At the moment of this writing I do not have access to Microsoft Xbox 360 equipment.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Maybe someone can pad hack a Xbox 360 controller for you:
    Trading Post


    You could try a pad hack yourself:
    *The "padhacking" thread*.

    It probably looks similar to this one:
    HOWTO: Mod VSHG single switch PS3 / X360

    You probably can attach the Xbox 360 controller printed circuit board under the Saulabi printed circuit board.
    There are large solder points accessible from there.

    At the moment of this writing I do not have access to Microsoft Xbox 360 equipment.

    Thanks for all the info, I am pretty new to the world of arcade sticks so that helps.
  • 2BAD4U2BAD4U Joined: Posts: 259
    ... Only 33k for the stick? which is like $US 35 ??! hmmm... Can someone confirm?
  • EvilSamuraiEvilSamurai Joined: Posts: 2,668
    ^
    korean arcade parts are incredibly cheap for such quality.
  • tl613tl613 Joined: Posts: 1,752
    Yeah very low prices for such great stuff, but if you live in the US expect shipping to be as much as the stick itself :wtf:
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    I just remembered something. Saulabi 4K sticks from Play-asia use leaf switch sticks.
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  • 2BAD4U2BAD4U Joined: Posts: 259
    Yeah very low prices for such great stuff, but if you live in the US expect shipping to be as much as the stick itself :wtf:

    Sure, for $70 for at least a very decent looking box, sounds pretty good to me plus the parts seem good enough
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I love Korean Joysticks. I'm playing now for more than 1 year with a hard rubber Fanta and I love it so much.

    It feels incredible and it's definitely the best stick you can get for Tekken, especially if you're a Mishima player.

    I'm still playing with my modded Saulabi- SPS 1000 on PS2 and I think it's a decent arcade stick. The only thing which bothers me, is the weight, it's a bit too light if you ask me.

    Does anybody have a Korean Tekken machine button layout. I'm going to build a custom Arcade stick this year and I want to have same layout.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I just got through modding my stick.pe.kr stick with the fake wood with Crown 203A buttons. It uses the same PCB as the PS3 Saulabi.

    I gotta tell you, although bending the contacts to fit the PCB holes may be possible in theory it just ain't gonna happen if you're switching out all 10 buttons. I spent an hour trying to get all the holes to line up, tweaking contact angles here and there. But whatever I did, I just couldn't get them all to go through the holes. It was a royal pain in the ass. So I ended up soldering the buttons to the PCB with wires.

    Whatever button you get, the Crown 203A or 203C, you'll end up using wires. Forget the bending-the-contact option for the 203A's. Considering the risk of damage to the button and the time required to get things just right, it just isn't a realistic option.

    Crown 203A versus stock button comparison:

    1. Stiffer spring, prevents inadvertent inputs.
    2. Shorter "throw".
    3. Activates sooner.
    4. The plastic feels more solid. It's like comparing Legos to Megablocks.
    5. Much quieter. My wife was happy because the stock buttons were very hollow sounding and loud. The Crowns only let off a sharp click when you pressed them hard.

    I agree about the weight thing. It's all very light and might get airborne if you're really into it. I'm thinking of ways to secure some lead weights to the interior of the box.
  • EvilSamuraiEvilSamurai Joined: Posts: 2,668
    ^
    Saulabis are weighted down and made of plastic instead of fake wood so they are probably the better buy.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Evilsamurai: I agree. And the Saulabi's come in a case with screw holes molded into the plastic, instead of particleboard panels that are stapled shut and where screws are screwed directly into the board. So the Saulabi would be better in the long run if you swap stuff out frequently. I can foresee getting to a point where the staples won't hold or the screwholes for the stick will start to gouge the wood to the point where the stick will no longer stay screwed down if I swap things out too often. Fortunately, I have a Taeyoung and 10 Crown 203A's in there, so hopefully there should be no reason to open the box again.

    Takahashi, you said that you could not daisy chain the ground on the Saulabi PCB. Any reasons why this did not work that you could figure out? I soldered each button to its own ground, but if they can be daisy chained, then it would save people some time.
  • tl613tl613 Joined: Posts: 1,752
    The Saulabi PCB may just not have a common ground. As for the Saulabi case, I do like it a lot better than wood. You don't have to worry about stripping the screw holes or paint getting scratched off. If you don't find it heavy enough, what I did is glue fishing weights inside. Glue one down in each corner and you will have a nicely weighed down stick.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I understand Sanwa buttons have tabs instead of wire leads that work with .110" quick disconnects. Are there quick disconnects that work well with the Crown 203A (or C) wire leads?
  • tl613tl613 Joined: Posts: 1,752
    I don't believe so, but what I did was solder female QDs to the leads on the buttons. You have to use a lot of solder though otherwise they will break off easily.
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    I understand Sanwa buttons have tabs instead of wire leads that work with .110" quick disconnects. Are there quick disconnects that work well with the Crown 203A (or C) wire leads?

    Yes, there are. :wgrin:
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  • SnatcherSnatcher The True Enemy Joined: Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Sorry if this quote is terribly stupid or whatever, but is it possible to replace the PCB in a Saulabi with a PSX pad (Sony) PCB?
  • tl613tl613 Joined: Posts: 1,752
    Of course and most people would recommend you do it anyway.
  • SnatcherSnatcher The True Enemy Joined: Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Ooh, I see, is there a foolproof guide to this somewhere to be found?
  • eviljevilj Joined: Posts: 4,961 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I was reading the thread,

    are you sure the saulaubi stick comes with a myongshin fanta?

    I'm pretty sure the wooden one on stick.pe.kr comes with a myongshin fanta and it is completely different from the saulabi. I've tried the taeyoung, myongshin, and the stock saulabi stick and the stock saulabi is my least liked.
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  • tl613tl613 Joined: Posts: 1,752
    It comes with a Myoungshin, just a lower quality one, ie. some parts differ. The last Saulabi I had for instance didn't have Gersung switches and used a larger actuator to make up for the switches having a later activation point. The Saulabi I had before that had leaf switches.
  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    Ok so I'm ready to mod my Saulabi. I have learned how to solder now and have the desoldering pump too. I learned how to remove the buttons from the PCB and I switched them around to leave the broken buttons to the far side and the working ones to the left.

    I'm likeing the Crown 203 C's and I hope to put in a TaeYoung Fanta , but my question is does the TaeYoung screw diredtly in without any mods ?

    My other question is about useing wires. Since originaly the PCB "hangs from the buttons, When you use wires for the buttons, how are you holding the PCB down.

    And since the soldering points are on the top of the PCB ( the side that you first see when you open it up ) do you have to have it inverted after the wires are connected or do you use long ass wires.

    I'm choosing to use wires soldered on because when I heard about the bending of the contacts and saw how small they are and also looking at the holes on the PCB, I immediatly knew that Sambekzx was right on in his post on the difficulty of putting those in to the PCB and lining them up.

    Are there different colors available for the TaeYoung Fanta sticks ?

    And if Mr. Laugh doesn't have the parts I would like to buy, where else can I put my order in.

    Mr. Laugh if you see this I will contact you probably tommorow or the day after and I'm willing to PayPall you at once.


    ***edit***

    How stupid of me to not think of just putting the wires through the holes and then solder. Disregard my question on inverting the PCB.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    The Taeyoung screws in directly, no modding necessary. They come in red or green.

    I must warn you, the Taeyoungs come HELLA DAMN STIFF. You'll be using your arm muscles to play for the first two weeks. Then your hand/wrist for the next two weeks. It's been almost a month and they still haven't loosened up to the point where I can just flick my wrist or use my fingertips. I can't wavedash in Tekken because of the stiffness right now. But I'm sticking with it cuz I hear they're the best when the rubber is broken down completely.

    As for the PCB, I used 22 gauge wire about 2 inches in length for each button. With 20 wires going to the PCB and 40 solder points, I found that the PCB didn't need to be screwed down to anything. It was fine just free floating inside the case. I'm not sure how shock-proof this setup is, but I don't abuse my sticks by dropping them or throwing them around.

    EDIT: As for the Saulabi and the wooden stick.pe.kr sticks (made by the same company), they both have fanta and leaf switch versions. Play-asia only sells the leaf switch Saulabi, I believe. But if you order directly from stick.pe.kr, and order the fanta version of the Saulabi or wooden stick, you get a crappy Myoungshin.
  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    The Taeyoung screws in directly, no modding necessary. They come in red or green.

    I must warn you, the Taeyoungs come HELLA DAMN STIFF. You'll be using your arm muscles to play for the first two weeks. Then your hand/wrist for the next two weeks. It's been almost a month and they still haven't loosened up to the point where I can just flick my wrist or use my fingertips. I can't wavedash in Tekken because of the stiffness right now. But I'm sticking with it cuz I hear they're the best when the rubber is broken down completely.

    As for the PCB, I used 22 gauge wire about 2 inches in length for each button. With 20 wires going to the PCB and 40 solder points, I found that the PCB didn't need to be screwed down to anything. It was fine just free floating inside the case. I'm not sure how shock-proof this setup is, but I don't abuse my sticks by dropping them or throwing them around.

    THANK YOU SIR :tup:

    Wow I never imagined it would be free floating. Any place I can put in my order other than Laugh ?
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