Saulabi modding tutorial

laughlaugh eTokki.com MasterJoined: Posts: 1,929
Sup everyone.

This is a guide that I've been asked about and meaning to upload for awhile by many people, and I finally got the time to post a guide for everyone trying to put in quality parts in their Saulabi sticks. I used a Saulabi 4K for the PS3/PC for this guide, but this modding tutorial applies to all Saulabi sticks. General Saulabi information can be found in the Saulabi thread.

In this guide, I will be replacing the stock stick with a Taeyoung Fanta stick and the stock buttons with Crown CWB203A buttons. The linked images are example pictures, and the actual stick and buttons I used for the mod are black.

It should be pointed out that Saulabi sticks follow the Korean universal joystick mounting specs, and thus any Korean stick can be used as the replacement just as easily as the Taeyoung Fanta stick that was used in the guide.

The guide can also be applied to the wooden sticks that can be found at stick.pe.kr, which is pretty much identical to Saulabi but just in a wooden case.



To start off the tutorial, here's a list of tools I recommend for this mod.

-Soldering iron
-Solder sucker (either the pump type or the bulb type is fine)
-Phillips screw driver
-Flathead screw driver
-Long nose plier




Now onto the photos


Fresh out of the box
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The stock buttons, where most of the work is needed
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To open the case, you need to first turn the stick over
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Use a flathead screw driver as leverage and remove the rubber feet
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Rubber feet pulled out
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You now have access to the screws that hold the case together
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Take off the bottom case and you'll see the guts of the stick
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First thing you should do is to unscrew and disconnect the stock joystick so that you can lay the stick flat on a surface. Now would be a good time to plug in your soldering iron for the next step
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You will need to remove these solder blobs from the buttons
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This is my solder sucker that I used to suck up those solder blobs
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1 button done. In order to remove solder blobs, you need to melt those solder blobs with the soldering iron and suck up the solder with the solder sucker. This requires both of your hands to be free, and that's why it's important to remove the joystick so that you can lay down the top panel of the stick flat on a surface.
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Do the same for the rest of the buttons. Be careful not to heat up those buttons' soldering spots for too long, as that can lift the soldering spot/trace from the PCB. 4 seconds from the moment of melt is a good limit
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Now gently lift the PCB away from the buttons, and you will get this view. When you are trying to lift the PCB, there will be a couple of buttons that still have small amount of solder holding the button and the PCB together, so use your soldering iron to melt those points as you lift the PCB and you should be able to remove the PCB from the buttons in no time. Again, be gentle and don't try to use force to pull out the PCB since these are single sided PCBs and their traces can be lifted with forceful pulling.
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Take those stock buttons out!
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The new parts that will occupy the Saulabi, Crown CWB203A buttons and Taeyoung Fanta stick
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Before you put in the Crown buttons into the top panel, you need to bend the Crown CWB203A's pins as shown in the photo by using a long nose plier to make them fit through the much more adjacent solder spots for the buttons on the PCB. Be slow and patient when you bend the pins and don't over bend them as you can break the pins off. The ends of the pins, once bent, should be as close to each other as the stock buttons. This does require some practice before you get good at it and not break off pins by bending too much too quickly, but I decided to do this method anyway, since it's the easiest way to mod the buttons by far and requires no wires. Once all the pins are bent, put in the buttons. The arrows on the bottom of the button should be pointing straight up and down.
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Align the Crown buttons' pins through the PCB like so
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Solder those buttons up. Again, don't heat up the solder spots/button pins for more than 4 seconds max. If you heat up the button pins for too long, you could melt the microswitch's mechanism inside.
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Check to make sure that you didn't accidentally desolder circuit components while working with the soldering iron
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Put in your new stick and screw it down with a phillips screw driver
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Plug in the QDs for the stick. The ground chain (black wire) should be connected to 1 of the 2 tabs on each microswitch, and each directional wire should be connected to the other tab on its respective microswitch. The wire color for left is yellow, right is red, up is white, and down is orange.
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Screw the top panel and the bottom back together and it's done! Just in case someone confuses this shot with the unmodded default shot, this is the modded stick. I probably should've used a different color scheme from the stock parts to make it easier to distinguish, for Powerful Game.
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Finished shot from a different angle.
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These photos are originally 640x480, so if you wanna look at slightly bigger sizes of the same photos, you can see them at my Saulabi 4K mod flickr set.

The reason why I decided to mod the buttons the way I did above is because it doesn't require any wires, and offers the cleanest innards compared to other methods that could be used. The downside is that you can mess up perfectly good buttons if you break off the pins on the CWB203A buttons while bending them. On my first try out of the 10 buttons, I broke off a pin on 2 buttons (you can still solder wires to the broken pins and use them though).

Let me know if I'm missing anything and I'll add it to the tutorial.

I might add how to mod the wooden sticks as well. I just need to show how to open and close the case and the rest of the mod is the same.

I haven't figured out a clean and sturdy way to mod with CWB203C (screw-in type) buttons yet. It requires soldering wires to all the buttons, but I really don't like stripping and tinning wires, so this will have to wait a bit unless someone already has a good method.

I hope it helped. :-)
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  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
    Great tutorial Laugh!
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  • EvilSamuraiEvilSamurai Joined: Posts: 2,668
    awesome!
  • djfrijolesdjfrijoles First ST player to ever moon a live stream baby ! Joined: Posts: 2,054
    *rates thread at excellent*

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    tears of joy

    EXELENTE

    I have one contribution but it's a small one and not to good that I picked up from experience.
    It most likely will not have to be neccessary but you never know.

    When putting the QD's back on, they have a little release pin that you push to remove them, make sure this pin is facing OUT when you put them back on so as to have an easier time IF you ever have to remove them again.

    I had put them both facing each other and it makes it a little harder to remove because of the small space in between them. It's nothing that can't be resolved with a srew driver to push on the pin and pull with your other hand but it's just more room for a tragic mistake like slipping with the srew driver and breaking something.

    Now if only this thread had come out 4 days earlier :sad: <
    tears of sadness


    *edit*

    Why not put some tips in about how to bend the pins properly as that looks to be the most crucial and DIFFICULT part of the whole thing.
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  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Thanks for the kind words, guys. I should have done this a little sooner (sorry djfrijoles, ^_^;).

    djfrijoles brought up some good points. Plugging in the stick's QDs so that they face outwards is a good habit and makes removing the QDs a cake.

    About bending the button pins, I will definitely add a more in-depth guide on it. It's all about controlling the force and going at a slow pace.
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  • AQUA-PURAAQUA-PURA @theasianloner Joined: Posts: 1,634
    Nice...
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  • desistyle3desistyle3 Joined: Posts: 214
    good stuff....now you can enjoy fancy look of the joystick!
  • VR-FistVR-Fist Welcome to die! Joined: Posts: 322
    Awesome. Laugh always does a great business and work.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Excellent tutorial Laugh!

    I need a Saulabi 4k PS3 stick, I'm currently playing DR Online with Pad and it's horrible. Play-Asia don't have them in stock and from what I've heard they're not getting them soon :(

    Do you know where I can get one for modding?

    PS: I'm going to vacation today. So don't expect a message for the next 3 or 4 weeks, but I'll definitely check this thread again.

    Btw, do you still sell parts? I bought some Fanta sticks and crown buttons from you, maybe 1 year ago. I love Korean joysticks :D
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Excellent tutorial Laugh!

    I need a Saulabi 4k PS3 stick, I'm currently playing DR Online with Pad and it's horrible. Play-Asia don't have them in stock and from what I've heard they're not getting them soon :(

    Do you know where I can get one for modding?

    PS: I'm going to vacation today. So don't expect a message for the next 3 or 4 weeks, but I'll definitely check this thread again.

    Btw, do you still sell parts? I bought some Fanta sticks and crown buttons from you, maybe 1 year ago. I love Korean joysticks :D

    Thanks.

    Yeah, I still sell parts and sticks. Playasia is the only place I know that sells Saulabi sticks for anybody in the world. I can still sell them by acting as a middleman.

    We should take this to PMs to avoid derailing the thread.

    PS. I would take Fanta sticks for all my games over other sticks any day.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    That was a great read. It makes me want to try some korean parts now. :tup:
  • deadfrogdeadfrog Joined: Joined: Posts: 6,787
    Aaah laugh that's awesome. By the way I swear I'm almost finished that K layout hahah.
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    This got some good exposure thanks to the unintentional bump-age by Switch Blade.


    Timoe - Glad you got something out of it. Yeah give those K sticks a try one day.

    deadfrog - Thanks! I'm looking forward to them as well. Let me know if you need any assistance with it.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    How much do one of these sticks cost and where can I get one?

    I'm really looking hard for a low cost casing right now.
  • TakahashiTakahashi Epileptic Videogamer Joined: Posts: 474
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    looking forward to modding my Saulabi...thanks laugh...
  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,230
    Thanks for this! It helps me in modding my Sega HSS sticks, I couldn't figure out for the life of me, how to get those PCB's off the buttons without damaging the PCB or the buttons, I was gonna just break'em off all psychotic like :chainsaw:
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    hi laugh,

    can't PM cos im new, but was wondering do you sell already modded saulabi's?

    thanks
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    hi laugh,

    can't PM cos im new, but was wondering do you sell already modded saulabi's?

    thanks
    Hey, I don't mod Saulabis hoping somebody asks for them in the futre, but I can mod them for people if they can't do it themselves following this tutorial.
    Rolento in SSF4!

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  • RaishinXRaishinX I fell off Joined: Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Thread was a huge help. I didn't wanna say anything until I had finally modded it.

    I have one singular problem though.

    The metal weight in the bottom scraps against the very bottom of the Crown joystick I put in there. I have no problem using a Myungshin but is there anyway to stop this without have my damn stick fly all over the place when I playing?
    i just stared at beast for 5 minutes.... hes looking right at me
    like im poongko and i got his money -Jaja Novistro
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Thread was a huge help. I didn't wanna say anything until I had finally modded it.

    I have one singular problem though.

    The metal weight in the bottom scraps against the very bottom of the Crown joystick I put in there. I have no problem using a Myungshin but is there anyway to stop this without have my damn stick fly all over the place when I playing?

    Glad it helped a lot.

    You just have to remove the stock weight if you're using a Crown stick. Replace it with some other means of weights would be the only easy solution.
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  • inControlinControl (Hit Box) Upa Joined: Posts: 287
    just one thing to say, change the color of the writing its hard to read lol
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    just one thing to say, change the color of the writing its hard to read lol

    It was easy to read in the old skin. Change your skin
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  • RaishinXRaishinX I fell off Joined: Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Glad it helped a lot.

    You just have to remove the stock weight if you're using a Crown stick. Replace it with some other means of weights would be the only easy solution.

    Oh, okay. Thanks.
    i just stared at beast for 5 minutes.... hes looking right at me
    like im poongko and i got his money -Jaja Novistro
  • kodee vukodee vu Joined: Posts: 404
    Thanks to laugh's parts shipment and tutorial, I've successfully modified a Saulabi 4K and absolutely love it.

    Parts:
    1) Stock Saulabi 4K
    2) Red MyoungShin Fanta joystick
    3) Black / red Crown 203A buttons

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    Thanks laugh! :) I now enjoy fancy look of the joystick, for Powerful Game. Feel just like playing games in Arcade room with Human Based Design in joystick and buttons. No pains in wrists. Also, there are enough weight to prevent movement.
  • zeeteszeetes I <3 Namco Joined: Posts: 1,060
    Thanks to laugh's parts shipment and tutorial, I've successfully modified a Saulabi 4K and absolutely love it.

    Parts:
    1) Stock Saulabi 4K
    2) Red MyoungShin Fanta joystick
    3) Black / red Crown 203A buttons

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3601/3466738426_a98ac95a94.jpg?v=0

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3466738282_952ecbc0cf.jpg?v=0

    Thanks laugh! :)

    looks good, how do you like the feel of the fanta?
  • kodee vukodee vu Joined: Posts: 404
    looks good, how do you like the feel of the fanta?

    Love it. I played on a friend's for a while a long time ago, and I recently played on another friend's mod'd Saulabi before doing this project. I far prefer it over a Japanese balltop. Maybe it's cuz I don't have Asian hands and can actually grip it? =/

    I'm becoming super consistent on it already as it becomes broken in.
  • zeeteszeetes I <3 Namco Joined: Posts: 1,060
    Love it. I played on a friend's for a while a long time ago, and I recently played on another friend's mod'd Saulabi before doing this project. I far prefer it over a Japanese balltop. Maybe it's cuz I don't have Asian hands and can actually grip it? =/

    I'm becoming super consistent on it already as it becomes broken in.

    good to hear! i've been itching to try one. i'm interested to see how much difference there is in feel between the rubber and the spring.
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Oh that looks nice! Thanks for making my day with that post, and keep beasting!
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  • kodee vukodee vu Joined: Posts: 404
    Oh that looks nice! Thanks for making my day with that post, and keep beasting!


    Making your day? Sweet, haha. I saw the vids of you vs. poongko; love the Ryu :)


    Also!
    When swapping out the buttons on the 4K, you said something about possibly heating the soldering points too much to lift the trace or the solder point off the board. I actually did this because I was used to working with a 15w iron and swapped to a 25w halfway thru (not by my choice. Long story.)

    I ended up lifting the copper ring around one of a button's soldering points by overheating the solder on top of it. I fretted for a minute about how to fix it, but I finally took an x-acto knife and scraped away a large bit of the green on the board, exposing more copper. I then laid a big glob of solder, like spreading cake icing, connecting the copper to the pins on the bottom of the new button. Then everything worked perfectly! :)

    I might be able to take a pic of what I did if I can get hold of a higher quality camera. Just in case anyone runs into this in the future.
  • BushBush Joined: Posts: 305
    Ive just ordered one of these. Im thinking of painting over the face plate first and maybe changing the buttons and stick sometime down the line.

    Does anyone know how I would go about painting it though? I have no idea. For powerfull game needs to go, as much as it gives me a laugh.
  • RaishinXRaishinX I fell off Joined: Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Ive just ordered one of these. Im thinking of painting over the face plate first and maybe changing the buttons and stick sometime down the line.

    Does anyone know how I would go about painting it though? I have no idea. For powerfull game needs to go, as much as it gives me a laugh.

    http://www.kowal.itcom.pl/ArcadeParts_pliki/modSPS3000Aen.htm
    i just stared at beast for 5 minutes.... hes looking right at me
    like im poongko and i got his money -Jaja Novistro
  • hoodamanhoodaman footsy madness! Joined: Posts: 739
    Saulabi

    Is it possible to put spring based sticks in the saulabi or does it have to be rubber? If so, are there any korean sticks similar to the one on the Madcats tournament stick?
    Thanks a lot
  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Is it possible to put spring based sticks in the saulabi or does it have to be rubber? If so, are there any korean sticks similar to the one on the Madcats tournament stick?
    Thanks a lot

    The limitation doesn't depend on whether it's using rubber or spring, but rather on the stick maker. Saulabi sticks are meant to mount Korean sticks, which are mostly using rubber. You can install other types of sticks into them also, but it'll take a lot more work.

    There really isn't a stick that's similar to the TE stick among the Korean sticks. Korean sticks are different from Japanese sticks.
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  • hoodamanhoodaman footsy madness! Joined: Posts: 739
    i see. thanks for the info.
  • kikimaru024kikimaru024 Mid-tier scrub Joined: Posts: 1,693
    Guys, would I be right in assuming that since the Saulabi 4K is common-ground, I can dual-mod in a Madcatz 360 (4716)?
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  • laughlaugh eTokki.com Master Joined: Posts: 1,929
    Guys, would I be right in assuming that since the Saulabi 4K is common-ground, I can dual-mod in a Madcatz 360 (4716)?

    Yes, that's right.
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  • kikimaru024kikimaru024 Mid-tier scrub Joined: Posts: 1,693
    Excellent!
    (let's hope I don't FUBAR this) ^_^;;
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Wtb

    laugh: Hi, I would like to inquire on a price quote for a Taeyoung Fanta stick and Crown CWB203A buttons (price per button would be nice, since I'm not sure if I will want to replace the "Select" and "Start" buttons) to be shipped to Canada. My Saulabi is arriving tomorrow and I don't know from where else I could buy these korean parts as replacements. My email is sheyeny at yahoo dot com. Thanks in advance!

    And thanks for the tutorial, very instructive.
  • RaishinXRaishinX I fell off Joined: Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    laugh: Hi, I would like to inquire on a price quote for a Taeyoung Fanta stick and Crown CWB203A buttons (price per button would be nice, since I'm not sure if I will want to replace the "Select" and "Start" buttons) to be shipped to Canada. My Saulabi is arriving tomorrow and I don't know from where else I could buy these korean parts as replacements. My email is sheyeny at yahoo dot com. Thanks in advance!

    And thanks for the tutorial, very instructive.

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174859
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