Vampire Savior: advanced link combos & important notes

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  • DangiefDangief The Noogieman Joined: Posts: 374
    My amazing Pyron consists of:
    Spamming Fireballs.
    low forward into fireball/Zodiac if I'm feeling frisky
    More fireballs.
    Seizure super.
    Pseudo rushdown w/ his down punches.
    More fireballs.
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  • Diek StiekemDiek Stiekem Team triple terror for MvCi Joined: Posts: 2,568 mod
    gbursine wrote:

    find out what moves are bufferable.. & what versin are u doing this all in(VS2?VH2? VS??)... i can test the VS2 and VH2 versions, and the nw2 one too;

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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    Quick question...how does VC compare to VS when your life bar and fighting modes are all Savior? I'm just wondering, thanks. :china:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    I wanna say looks the same, b/c savior does seemingly play exactly the same... but theres prolly some difference in numbers in life meters, or some stupid shit i'm not accounting for. (i have no available references to determine it)

    so just take it as being the same for now :razzy:
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    Alright, thanks a ton anyways. Right now I'm trying to learn Jedah, but he's hard. At the moment I use Talbain and Dimitri, though from what I've seen, Sasquatch just has an unfair advantage. :sad: Say, a while ago on some sites there were .rar files with lots of VS tourney vids, would anyone have or know where to get any of these? :xeye: If you could help me out with that, or my Jedah play, I'd be really thankful. Thanks in advance and thanks again for the help gbursine. :china:
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  • Diek StiekemDiek Stiekem Team triple terror for MvCi Joined: Posts: 2,568 mod
    I'm currently trying to look at Pyron's main differences in VS & CFJ.
    (If I only had more free time..)
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    I'm currently trying to look at Pyron's main differences in VS & CFJ.
    (If I only had more free time..)

    Pyron isn't in VS... :confused: But I think you mean the Vampire series. :pleased:
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  • PhobosPhobos Old Man with a BIG stick Joined: Posts: 381 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Good stuff . I guess nobody plays with phobos much huh?
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  • Diek StiekemDiek Stiekem Team triple terror for MvCi Joined: Posts: 2,568 mod
    Turbovec wrote:
    Pyron isn't in VS... :confused: But I think you mean the Vampire series. :pleased:

    U'r right, sometimes some typo's creep in my posts :rolleyes:
    Phobos wrote:
    Good stuff . I guess nobody plays with phobos much huh?

    I don't play Phobos (sounds better than Huitzil now doesn't it?) much, but feel free to share some strats. Judging from your avatar he's one of your favorites :tup:
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    U'r right, sometimes some typo's creep in my posts :rolleyes:

    Hey man, don't worry about it. We all do stupid things sometimes and I understood what ya meant. :razz: Anyways, I was wondering if anyone had advice on teching hits/pushblocking. I can only seem to do it when I mash the buttons. :sweat:
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  • felinekifelineki Joined: Posts: 981
    Turbovec wrote:
    Hey man, don't worry about it. We all do stupid things sometimes and I understood what ya meant. :razz: Anyways, I was wondering if anyone had advice on teching hits/pushblocking. I can only seem to do it when I mash the buttons. :sweat:

    For pushblocking, you have to register a certain number of button presses during the blockstun. I can't remember the exact amount, I think it was aorund 4... but the strength of the last button you press, the one that actually triggers the push, determines how far away the opponent will be pushed.
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  • skisonicskisonic Joined: Posts: 1,131 mod
    between 3-6, each one bumps up the percentage that you will push up by 25%, starting with 25% to 100% if i recall
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    felineki wrote:
    For pushblocking, you have to register a certain number of button presses during the blockstun. I can't remember the exact amount, I think it was aorund 4... but the strength of the last button you press, the one that actually triggers the push, determines how far away the opponent will be pushed.

    Ok, thanks. Now, do these need to be individual presses or can I just mash down on my pad really fast and get the same result? Just want to clarify. :sweat:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    its controlled mashing. try to get as many button inputs within a moment at one time.

    on VC in training mode, I'll make bbhood do a dashing mp, and practice teching & gcing(which I still cant do on the 1 hit nearly consistently :-\)

    on a stick i go [rk, fp, mp, lp, lk]x2 fast as hell(so simpo).

    the gc has to be done w/ buffering,
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    gbursine wrote:
    "archived" video thread links & vampire discussion threads.
    (w/ newest up top [hopefully])


    http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85637

    www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57362

    http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66162

    http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79643

    http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65062

    Videos:
    These are from my site thing... theyre roughly 50 mb. blazed has em, but being that hes taking his time putting them up, I'll put em up for now. *NOTE: these vids are very dim, and are part of that huge daigo vid I always talk about. being that I partitioned them into smaller vids, the transition from match to match may or may not be ugly

    Jedah streak a

    Jedah streak b

    Jedah streak c

    Watch the bubble trap...somewhere here

    More random matches

    I've just added all this shit to the bottom of the first post at someone's request. :tup:
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  • SSJ HibikiSSJ Hibiki Joined: Posts: 312
    Hmm, I just got this game for PSP. Does this have the same balance/character neutering as the DC version? Also, what exactly was changed in the DC version? From what I understand, the characters tweaking was a big change. I am playing VS again after a few years (when I first played the game, I had no idea that the combo/cancelling system was different from the VS games, so all I could do was chain into a sweep), and these advanced combos and tactics actually make sense to me now :p
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    damn.... Im pissed, b/c a while back, I compiled a few of the VC changes, and it seems I've deleted them.

    well, whats mainly changed were little(important) things. what mainly comes to mind, is that not all dash links work anymore. namely, lilith's dashing lp/mk/mp, bb's dashing mp, something on qbee... etc. Im being a bit lazy as've now but yeah... if you play those characters, know that your characters that much better in VS. :pleased:
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    gbursine wrote:
    damn.... Im pissed, b/c a while back, I compiled a few of the VC changes, and it seems I've deleted them.

    well, whats mainly changed were little(important) things. what mainly comes to mind, is that not all dash links work anymore. namely, lilith's dashing lp/mk/mp, bb's dashing mp, something on qbee... etc. Im being a bit lazy as've now but yeah... if you play those characters, know that your characters that much better in VS. :pleased:

    I use Talbain, would my dashing hp be affected at all? :xeye:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    in the dc VC, his d.mp, +d.hp link is still there. I dont know much else about talbain specifics that may or may not be there(at least nothing comes to mind)
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    gbursine wrote:
    in the dc VC, his d.mp, +d.hp link is still there. I dont know much else about talbain specifics that may or may not be there(at least nothing comes to mind)

    Well, that's cool. I wish you or someone else had Talbain strats. Talbain = t3|-| s3x0rz!!!111 :blush:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    in my dabbles w/ talbain, i can offer what i think.

    w/ his hi priority mk, empty chaining j.mk->j.rk, or j.mk->j.hp
    are things I do pretty often. the scrubs never expect the 2nd hit, and both his rk and hp have some decent priority too.

    speaking of mk's... his standing and crouching mk are both nice. great pokes, both are bufferable(though, not f+mk) although it may not seem so, his c.mk has more range than his c.mp.

    i've seen the japs do a bunch of c.lks, then do a *short* dashing lk. nice quick overhead.

    beast cannon(bc)... I recently just started implementing his air bc into my game. it catches alota pple off guard that like to do random shit on the ground. A blocked bc puts the opp. at frame advantage(duh), but theres something odd when you go for the extension, b/c gallon pauses a bit. so normally, If the momentum of the match is w/ me, i'll go for the 1st block hit, stop, walk up and throw. It wont work against smart people, and I think bc-ing into the opponent in general isnt safe, even if you use the 2nd half of the bc to run away.

    ES bc.... this is the shit that needs more practice than the normal bc. once you land a hit, you gotta know how to keep the juggle with the rest of you what..5 bc extensions. or, you could juggle them for 4 or 3, and land, & juggle with rising claw(correct name? im talkin bout his uppercut)
    Tho, because I cant juggle fully with ES bc(b/c im lazy to practice w/ him for that long still), I'll use ES b/c to just b/c left and right of the opponent(so i'll move from the opponents immediate left, to immediate right w/ the ES bc)

    speaking of uppercuts, gallon's is on the level of cable's in mvc2. its charge friendly(there is no charge...heh), for charge retarded pple(like myself)... but, its priority doesnt have ST o.ken's dp priority... definitly not. like cable's AAA tho, I think i'm underratign it, and it does have its times where it will cleanly hit.

    tho, talbain's uppercut is just another reason why jumps are waay safer in VS than most other games.(chicken guard->counterattack... you win)

    his hcf+kk super, Its nice... but b/c im a cake mews, i dont like using it...lol. alota kallera scrubs i play(and some none scrubs) will just use this super as soon as they get meter... dumb :tdown: I'll give it its credit though, if you see some idiot flailing moves out like no tomorrow, use it(sparingly). But it seems like a super you'd use strictly for punishment.
    A nice trick(im scared telling this b/c of its basicness) is knockdown the opponent(preferably in the corner), and provided you know they'll roll toward you, throw out the dragon super in a spot ambiguous enough for the opponent to not know which way to block on wakeup. Really, now that i come to think of it, its a 50/50 sort of deal(eat combo if they block).

    shit i wrote alot for not knowing proper talbain. :xeye:
    i wish bizm & liquited would give advice too. they seem like they're hording alot of their knowledge lol. maybe i'm just loud.
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    gbursine wrote:
    in my dabbles w/ talbain, i can offer what i think.

    w/ his hi priority mk, empty chaining j.mk->j.rk, or j.mk->j.hp
    are things I do pretty often. the scrubs never expect the 2nd hit, and both his rk and hp have some decent priority too.

    speaking of mk's... his standing and crouching mk are both nice. great pokes, both are bufferable(though, not f+mk) although it may not seem so, his c.mk has more range than his c.mp.

    i've seen the japs do a bunch of c.lks, then do a *short* dashing lk. nice quick overhead.

    beast cannon(bc)... I recently just started implementing his air bc into my game. it catches alota pple off guard that like to do random shit on the ground. A blocked bc puts the opp. at frame advantage(duh), but theres something odd when you go for the extension, b/c gallon pauses a bit. so normally, If the momentum of the match is w/ me, i'll go for the 1st block hit, stop, walk up and throw. It wont work against smart people, and I think bc-ing into the opponent in general isnt safe, even if you use the 2nd half of the bc to run away.

    ES bc.... this is the shit that needs more practice than the normal bc. once you land a hit, you gotta know how to keep the juggle with the rest of you what..5 bc extensions. or, you could juggle them for 4 or 3, and land, & juggle with rising claw(correct name? im talkin bout his uppercut)
    Tho, because I cant juggle fully with ES bc(b/c im lazy to practice w/ him for that long still), I'll use ES b/c to just b/c left and right of the opponent(so i'll move from the opponents immediate left, to immediate right w/ the ES bc)

    speaking of uppercuts, gallon's is on the level of cable's in mvc2. its charge friendly(there is no charge...heh), for charge retarded pple(like myself)... but, its priority doesnt have ST o.ken's dp priority... definitly not. like cable's AAA tho, I think i'm underratign it, and it does have its times where it will cleanly hit.

    tho, talbain's uppercut is just another reason why jumps are waay safer in VS than most other games.(chicken guard->counterattack... you win)

    his hcf+kk super, Its nice... but b/c im a cake mews, i dont like using it...lol. alota kallera scrubs i play(and some none scrubs) will just use this super as soon as they get meter... dumb :tdown: I'll give it its credit though, if you see some idiot flailing moves out like no tomorrow, use it(sparingly). But it seems like a super you'd use strictly for punishment.
    A nice trick(im scared telling this b/c of its basicness) is knockdown the opponent(preferably in the corner), and provided you know they'll roll toward you, throw out the dragon super in a spot ambiguous enough for the opponent to not know which way to block on wakeup. Really, now that i come to think of it, its a 50/50 sort of deal(eat combo if they block).

    shit i wrote alot for not knowing proper talbain. :xeye:
    i wish bizm & liquited would give advice too. they seem like they're hording alot of their knowledge lol. maybe i'm just loud.

    Some good stuff in there. :tup: I never really thought of his Rising Kick as that good of an anti-air, or at least not as good as say, Dimitri's Demon Cradle or the Shadow Blade.

    As for the Beast Cannon, there are a few things I like to do. The first one is I like to srart with an upward angled one and then come right down ontop of the opponent. And if it totally misses, you can go over the opponent at a downward angle and land on the ground quickly and at a safe distance. And with the ES version juggles. Just go diagnoally upwards but after each hit, change the direction while keeping it going diagnoally upwards. If you're in a corner, you can go the same direction as long as it keeps them in the corner.

    I also like to use his LP, MP, f, LK, MK EX in short chains. Does better damage and garenteed to hit unlike his hcf+kk EX.

    Anyways, those are my strats, even though they aren't that good. :xeye: Though....Talbain is still t3|-| s3x0rz!!!!!111 :blush:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    even demitri & morrigan's dp's get owned by chicken guard. i've been thrown out of morrigan's dp!.

    i also forgot to mention, gallon's gc is one of the better ones imo. if he connects, he can go for the 2nd hit, which does decent damage. if his gc wiffs, he has the option to run away & the opponent loses momentum.
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    gbursine wrote:
    even demitri & morrigan's dp's get owned by chicken guard. i've been thrown out of morrigan's dp!.

    i also forgot to mention, gallon's gc is one of the better ones imo. if he connects, he can go for the 2nd hit, which does decent damage. if his gc wiffs, he has the option to run away & the opponent loses momentum.

    Chicken Guarding huh? I'll try it, though...when I watch all my Japanese match videos, I never really see any of them doing it. :xeye:
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  • Diek StiekemDiek Stiekem Team triple terror for MvCi Joined: Posts: 2,568 mod
    Chicken guard works great for me :karate:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    I see chicken guarding, "empty linking"(as ive christianed it), and iading. those are the 3 main forms of jumpins that i've seen.

    & i'm understanding the juggle system more bit by bit.

    you can juggle from special->ES special, or ES special->special(w/ supers appliccable). tho I'm pretty sure that its special case
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    gbursine wrote:

    I just put 1 vid up, but Its a bloody good one to make a post about. anyone wanting to see the bubble trap/seminf, and some good aubath, this is your vid.
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  • Diek StiekemDiek Stiekem Team triple terror for MvCi Joined: Posts: 2,568 mod
    Good stuff, :tup: too bad the video quality is a bit low. :sad:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    ya... I dont know how to fix it. but content over quality in this case
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    Nekohashi wrote:
    The reason why Vampire Savior 2 and Vampire Hunter 2 are not popular in Japan, although they are 2 (sequels) of Vampire Savior and Vampire Hunter...
    is here...
    After release of Vampire Savior in 1997, it was decided that there would be Vampire Savior:Official Championship Tournament held. Then right after that announcement, Vampire Savior 2 and Vampire Hunter 2 were released. Obviously, every one played Vampire Savior for the tournament and no one tried to play these two games. Also, Vampire Savior 2 and Vampire Hunter 2 are not so fun because of their game balances as fighting game. Therefore, these games are not accepted unfortunately.

    And there you have it, the reason why VS is played over VS2 and VH2. straight from the horses mouth.

    expect somemore posts like these :woot:
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  • DomikazeDomikaze Rock the Casbah Joined: Posts: 28
    great thread :tup:


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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    From the looks of it too, it seems the DC version beats out the PSP version, even though VC:CT comes with all though stupid extra modes, it's still plagued by load times. DC 4 L1f3!!!!1111 :devil: Oh, and on a side note, does anyone know exactly how do to B.B. Hood, Lord Raptor and Jedah's second infinite? Thanks in advance. :china:
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    gbursine wrote:
    BB hood

    dashing inf: [d.lp, s.lp,]xN, +c.mpXX shyness strike
    *a 2nd s.lp can be added after the first one(I think its easier w/ two s.lp)

    Jedah:

    DF: [f.F+[LP, LK, MP, HP]]xN
    *need to be hovering barely off the ground, cancel the recovery of the HP into a land, then fly again, and link the lp... hard as fuck... for lazy pple like me at least


    Zabel:

    DF: [s.lk, +d.rk]xN


    wholley damn, I didnt notice that I didnt put zabel's semi-inf. in the main post.

    he has some other glitch ass INFINITIES, but they're VS2, according to mixah, who doesnt play VS nemore :xeye:

    Ima take down the partitioned Daigo vids soon, since I dont know what'll happen to my webspace, & blazed is holding copies for CV.
    hopefully pple have dled it, and said both, "wholley shit, this is bad quality & editing", and "goddamn these matches are pretty"

    edit: is that the 2nd infinity u were talking about?
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    on with this thread again(i need easy access)

    some1 help me with bishamon. that fools hella hard

    oh shit.. the new upgrade allows for only 100000 characters/words per post :-\
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  • JedahsMinistryJedahsMinistry BattousaiCV Joined: Posts: 542
    I was looking on here for who posted the Jedah Daigo vid to give credit (thought it was gb or B-IzM), and saw the other 5. They're all up on CV now.
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  • MightyMarMightyMar Why you lose to me? Joined: Posts: 390
    on with this thread again(i need easy access)

    some1 help me with bishamon. that fools hella hard

    oh shit.. the new upgrade allows for only 100000 characters/words per post :-\
    Oh shit gb don't know if you remember me, but I'm the guy who plays under his brother handle Blackheart on kaillera. Anyway if you want to get some games in I will be on kaillera tonight so if you want face a scrubby Bishamon I'd be more than happy to get some games in.:karate:
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    P.S. I will be under the handle MightyMar so yeah. Peace Out
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    another character down... majority of him at least. i'm open for critiquing or w/e...


    and how would i be able to delete some pple's posts in this thread(coughvampiresaviorcough)?


    http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1370028&postcount=13

    edit: this character limit shit pisses me off to no end >.<



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  • MightyMarMightyMar Why you lose to me? Joined: Posts: 390
    Good game last friday GB. I'll probably be on again today some time around 6:00pm all the way to 8:00, because I got to work 3rd shift (:lame: ). Anyway GB do you know where I can get some frame data for the game, because I want to help with the character strats too. Hope to play you again. Peace Out

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  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    alot of good stuff in this thread.

    though lately i've been wondering what the tier list for VS is? I never really saw one and I just hear Sasquatch is top. but I'm lookin for the complete list.
    I don't got those.
  • DangiefDangief The Noogieman Joined: Posts: 374
    I only know for sure that I'm topper tier than gb. My rock and roll zombie > your silly chinese zombie. I rove you.
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Some great Aulbath tactics from that video, but my god, it keeps skipping/flashing all the time, my eyes hurt like hell after watching it.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    This thread is NIIICE

    That first post combo with Bulleta, I think it was c.lp, c.mp, +c.mpXXshyness strike....that actually disproves a theory an idiotic friend of mine had about not being able to cancel into other shit out of a zig-zag series chain ( basically he was saying any chain with two mediums won't lead to a special, which is BS ).

    And yeah, IADing with LeiLei will often reward me with cries of "YOU ARE SOOOO FSCKING CHEAP" and thrown controllers, but I was not aware of this OTG thing....any good match videos with examples of OTG stuff for her?
  • MightyMarMightyMar Why you lose to me? Joined: Posts: 390
    Sorry for not being on Kaillera last night. I'm going to get the controller converter and strangle that fucking burnout for having it to long. Anyway thanks for the telling me where the frame data is I should be able to come up with some good shit with it. Bishamon strats are coming first, then Lilith, then I'll start going in alphabetical order from there on. Peace Out.

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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    I can't find the tier list that's been posted up iono how many times -_-
    But the general consitstency of them all has been(in no particular order per group):

    Top tier:
    Zabel
    qbee
    sasquatch

    Debatable top/upper mid:
    bbhood
    bishamon
    gallon/talbain

    lower mid:
    jedah :P

    low:
    victor
    lilith
    morrigan
    anakaris

    mid:
    everyone else

    and of course, always keep in mind, the tiers are more like what all the whinney bitches think when they say "there are no tiers, everyone is good". meaning, some characters may be tiered higher than others, but it isnt always a flat out win(the lower tiered character has an equal chance).

    cricket egg, you're linking the c.mp off of the chain, so it is in part true, that theory.


    mar, ima critique your strats as they come out(need it be of course)
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Bah, I have a hell of a time teching hits on keyboard.
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  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    gbursine wrote:
    I can't find the tier list that's been posted up iono how many times -_-
    But the general consitstency of them all has been(in no particular order per group):

    Top tier:
    Zabel
    qbee
    sasquatch

    Debatable top/upper mid:
    bbhood
    bishamon
    gallon/talbain

    lower mid:
    jedah :P

    low:
    victor
    lilith
    morrigan
    anakaris

    mid:
    everyone else

    and of course, always keep in mind, the tiers are more like what all the whinney bitches think when they say "there are no tiers, everyone is good". meaning, some characters may be tiered higher than others, but it isnt always a flat out win(the lower tiered character has an equal chance).

    cricket egg, you're linking the c.mp off of the chain, so it is in part true, that theory.


    mar, ima critique your strats as they come out(need it be of course)

    thanks much. Surprisingly, i've been trying to learn Zabel lately. I'm so so with Q-Bee who is pretty much my main. Eh i'm too busy being slapped with cuteness with Sasquactch to play him seriously.
    I don't got those.
  • Diek StiekemDiek Stiekem Team triple terror for MvCi Joined: Posts: 2,568 mod
    Good to see this thread has been ressurrected:tup:

    Maybe it's time for me to do some Darkstalking again...
    (To see if I can up with even more Pyron stuff:karate: )
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  • MysticMystic Joined: Posts: 3,781
    By looking at tiers, Id say this game is balanced. As in anyone can win. Anyone got setups for jedah's hcb p ES move? I saw a vid where it had like a guard break done after a tech throw. Im interested in that one.
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  • gbursinegbursine TeaPire! Joined: Posts: 1,727
    in alot of my ghetto play with jedah, I find his lk command air throw to be the most useful(tho this is generally in the situations I set up for myself).
    when I corner them, on wakeup, if I know they won't slide away from the corner, I'll jump right ontop of em, and do it. used sparingly, its quite effective.

    I really can't safely say anything about the ES thow. It has the ovbious benifits of extended range, but I can see the meter just as easily going towards ES blade. whatever fits your fancy.


    also, I've been thinking of the hit properties against supers like, million bat, brilliant shower(morrigan's missle super), cruel hunting. I forgot how it works... but theres an are times (in what i'm considering lower lvl play) where it is actually advantageous to take the hit. these of course are the cases where, the first hit causes knockdown, and you avoid majority of the super's chip/damage. I need to look into these occurences. they generally happen when my character is midway through some sort of special move/aerial attack.
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  • MysticMystic Joined: Posts: 3,781
    What about some useful combos for rikuo? And whats the trick to getting combos off a lp lk mp chain?
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