The official Cthulhu and ChImp thread - Try our new Dreamcast flavor!

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  • SirSerpaSirSerpa Joined: Posts: 93
    Both Red and Blue when plugged into PC or PS3.
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  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,830
    SirSerpa wrote: »
    Both Red and Blue when plugged into PC or PS3.

    Try a shorter/different USB and see if that helps
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  • axelito397axelito397 Joined: Posts: 5
    I'm trying to build a stick for my dreamcast and Joey from focus attack send me here. I'm new at this to be honest. I asked for the Ps360+ and he said that akishop is no longer producing it and my only option would be Cthulhu.

    He said that I'll need a little bit of soldering which I can do (practicing right now). I have no guidance on how to make a fighting stick work for a dreamcast or the things besides the PCB to make it. Any advice will be appreciated.

    I wanna use Sanwa jlf and button. Ps360+ or Cthulhu instruction would be appreciated thanks!
  • VickoVicko Vegas Modder Extraordinaire! Joined: Posts: 2,830
    plenty of posts about that, bud

    please search
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  • axelito397axelito397 Joined: Posts: 5
    I researched and most of the links that seem to have good information are broken or they take me to the main forum page. We are in page 207 and I already backtrack a lot of pages and most of the talk about last gen and current consoles.

    I can't find anything specific to dreamcast. I learned that I need to solder the controller's cable but don't know to which hole. Or if is possible to removed the USB and replace it with a RJ45 and buy a RJ45 to dreamcast plug.

    I know my questions sound minuscule, but would help immensely if somebody could point me out to the right tutorial to do this. Thanks!
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,242
    axelito397 wrote: »
    I researched and most of the links that seem to have good information are broken or they take me to the main forum page. We are in page 207 and I already backtrack a lot of pages and most of the talk about last gen and current consoles.

    I can't find anything specific to dreamcast. I learned that I need to solder the controller's cable but don't know to which hole. Or if is possible to removed the USB and replace it with a RJ45 and buy a RJ45 to dreamcast plug.

    I know my questions sound minuscule, but would help immensely if somebody could point me out to the right tutorial to do this. Thanks!

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/100475/rj-45-multi-console-cthulhu-arcade-stick-tutorial-ver-2/p1
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  • axelito397axelito397 Joined: Posts: 5
    Thank you guys, that'll help!
  • DeathfistDeathfist Joined: Posts: 714 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Is it possible to use a dual PCB mod where you have a Toodles MC Cthulhu and a Brook Universal linked together? if so, would I need a Chimp? A friend and I are considering to do just that to a gutted stick we have.

    If something like that were possible, every major console ever released for the most part would be compatible with this stick.
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  • TortaTorta A piece of Cake Joined: Posts: 731
    Deathfist wrote: »
    Is it possible to use a dual PCB mod where you have a Toodles MC Cthulhu and a Brook Universal linked together? if so, would I need a Chimp? A friend and I are considering to do just that to a gutted stick we have.

    If something like that were possible, every major console ever released for the most part would be compatible with this stick.

    You should not.. you should need another RJ45 Port and just 1 USB output (Brook UFB for USB output and Rj45 port for MCCthulhu outputs)

    If you'd just want 1 RJ45 Output for all the consoles, then you might want a IMPv2.
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  • DeathfistDeathfist Joined: Posts: 714 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited November 2016
    Torta wrote: »
    Deathfist wrote: »
    Is it possible to use a dual PCB mod where you have a Toodles MC Cthulhu and a Brook Universal linked together? if so, would I need a Chimp? A friend and I are considering to do just that to a gutted stick we have.

    If something like that were possible, every major console ever released for the most part would be compatible with this stick.

    You should not.. you should need another RJ45 Port and just 1 USB output (Brook UFB for USB output and Rj45 port for MCCthulhu outputs)

    If you'd just want 1 RJ45 Output for all the consoles, then you might want a IMPv2.
    So if I use an Imp version 2, that would work? interesting. I thought that the Toodles MC Cthulhu had a built-in Imp switch. Guess I was mistaken.

    Which would you recommend, the single RJ-45 with IMPv2 or the double port method?

    On that topic, I'm considering to gut and reconstruct my Hitbox because the RJ-45 on it is likely a defect. Recent online research and me using 2 different RJ45 Akishop Dreamcast cables are my evidence. I honestly didn't know for over a year because I didn't have a Dreamcast chord.
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  • moltomoltomoltomolto Joined: Posts: 18
    edited January 12
    Deathfist wrote: »
    Torta wrote: »
    Deathfist wrote: »
    Is it possible to use a dual PCB mod where you have a Toodles MC Cthulhu and a Brook Universal linked together? if so, would I need a Chimp? A friend and I are considering to do just that to a gutted stick we have.

    If something like that were possible, every major console ever released for the most part would be compatible with this stick.

    You should not.. you should need another RJ45 Port and just 1 USB output (Brook UFB for USB output and Rj45 port for MCCthulhu outputs)

    If you'd just want 1 RJ45 Output for all the consoles, then you might want a IMPv2.
    So if I use an Imp version 2, that would work? interesting. I thought that the Toodles MC Cthulhu had a built-in Imp switch. Guess I was mistaken.

    Which would you recommend, the single RJ-45 with IMPv2 or the double port method?

    On that topic, I'm considering to gut and reconstruct my Hitbox because the RJ-45 on it is likely a defect. Recent online research and me using 2 different RJ45 Akishop Dreamcast cables are my evidence. I honestly didn't know for over a year because I didn't have a Dreamcast chord.

    I'm interested in doing the same mod myself. I'm wondering if getting an IMP board is the only way to output both through the same RJ 45 port? If you were to daisy chain the UFB and the MCC via the 20 pin connector that would not work?

    I feel like the two ports would be easier IMO but kinda ugly and wasteful when you can just have one
  • FrakkinToasterFrakkinToaster Hurm... Joined: Posts: 374
    I've been trying to get a SNES cable working via RJ47 with my MC Cthulhu for years now and nothing works. I've redone the cable several times, reloaded the firmware on the MC Cthulhu, nothing fixes the problem. Has anyone had any success getting SNES cables working on MC Cthulhu?

    Well, I finally discovered that my MC Cthulhu does in fact work on SOME SNES games. On Donkey Kong Country it doesn't work at all, on Mario All Stars only the Dpad and start button work, and on Castlevania 4 everything works. Anyone have any ideas on what the issue could be?
  • FrakkinToasterFrakkinToaster Hurm... Joined: Posts: 374
    TommyTench wrote: »
    I've been trying to get a SNES cable working via RJ47 with my MC Cthulhu for years now and nothing works. I've redone the cable several times, reloaded the firmware on the MC Cthulhu, nothing fixes the problem. Has anyone had any success getting SNES cables working on MC Cthulhu?

    I'm assuming you mean RJ45 and not RJ47?

    With RJ45 i got mine working perfectly. I did have some weird issues when i plugged my controller in (it would disable both controllers, lol). I thought it was a solder bridge underneath the board, but it turns out i had stripped the wires too far and they were touching on the top side of the board (before they went into the soldering holes). So i just spaced them out so they wouldn't touch and now it works perfectly.

    It took me a while to figure this out btw so if you have any other questions let me know; ive ran through everything in the process only to find out it was that

    Does a standard USB to RJ45 work? Mine worked with a usb cable but not snes, making things even more confusing initially.

    EDIT: I used generic SNES cables off amazon. A 2 pack was 6.99 prime or something

    Yup RJ45, typo. Does your MC Cthulhu work on Donkey Kong Country? For some reason mine works perfectly on Castlevania 4 and not at all on DKC.
  • FrakkinToasterFrakkinToaster Hurm... Joined: Posts: 374
    I just plugged it into my PC to test it, according to the USB controller settings all the buttons and the joystick function properly.
  • insomniaticmeatinsomniaticmeat Joined: Posts: 4
    Hey guys,

    I'm building a hitbox and am planning to use the ChimpSMD for it. Living in europe, my options are pretty limited, PCB wise. The only other board I could get, would be the Brook Universal Fighting Board, which would cost almost 3x as much as the Chimp.

    For the time being, I will only play SFV on PC, so I don't see any reason not to go with the Chimp. It has SOCD cleaning and supports the PC, so I should be all set.

    Am I missing something? Is there a difference in input lag between those two boards?
  • TortaTorta A piece of Cake Joined: Posts: 731
    Hey guys,

    I'm building a hitbox and am planning to use the ChimpSMD for it. Living in europe, my options are pretty limited, PCB wise. The only other board I could get, would be the Brook Universal Fighting Board, which would cost almost 3x as much as the Chimp.

    For the time being, I will only play SFV on PC, so I don't see any reason not to go with the Chimp. It has SOCD cleaning and supports the PC, so I should be all set.

    Am I missing something? Is there a difference in input lag between those two boards?

    ChimpSMD is fine but.. what about XInput games as SFV (tho it now supports directinput but is a pain in the ass)?

    Maybe Brook ps3ps4fighting board would be better for you!
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  • insomniaticmeatinsomniaticmeat Joined: Posts: 4
    edited February 13
    Torta wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    I'm building a hitbox and am planning to use the ChimpSMD for it. Living in europe, my options are pretty limited, PCB wise. The only other board I could get, would be the Brook Universal Fighting Board, which would cost almost 3x as much as the Chimp.

    For the time being, I will only play SFV on PC, so I don't see any reason not to go with the Chimp. It has SOCD cleaning and supports the PC, so I should be all set.

    Am I missing something? Is there a difference in input lag between those two boards?

    ChimpSMD is fine but.. what about XInput games as SFV (tho it now supports directinput but is a pain in the ass)?

    Maybe Brook ps3ps4fighting board would be better for you!

    Sorry, I'm not completely familiar with the difference between XInput and DirectInput. I did a quick Google search, and from my understanding XInput is Microsofts current input API, and DirectInput is the predecessor. Is that correct? And you're saying the Chimp only supports DirectInput, Streetfighter V supports both, but the DirectInput support sucks in some way, right?

    Edit: I can't get the ps3ps4 Fighting Board here in Germany unfortunately. The only shop I could find, that is carrying this stuff, only has the Universal Fighting Board.
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    Edit: I can't get the ps3ps4 Fighting Board here in Germany unfortunately. The only shop I could find, that is carrying this stuff, only has the Universal Fighting Board.


    You can order the PS4/3 Brook boards on Ebay.
  • StrtFghtrMstrStrtFghtrMstr SRnk1VaBeachAlphaTeam Joined: Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hey guys,

    I'm building a hitbox and am planning to use the ChimpSMD for it. Living in europe, my options are pretty limited, PCB wise. The only other board I could get, would be the Brook Universal Fighting Board, which would cost almost 3x as much as the Chimp.

    For the time being, I will only play SFV on PC, so I don't see any reason not to go with the Chimp. It has SOCD cleaning and supports the PC, so I should be all set.

    Am I missing something? Is there a difference in input lag between those two boards?

    Hori Fighting Commander for PS3/4/PC is your best padhack if that's an option for you. No SOCD cleaner but outside of vanilla MvC3 you won'the need one..
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  • insomniaticmeatinsomniaticmeat Joined: Posts: 4
    gahrling wrote: »
    Edit: I can't get the ps3ps4 Fighting Board here in Germany unfortunately. The only shop I could find, that is carrying this stuff, only has the Universal Fighting Board.


    You can order the PS4/3 Brook boards on Ebay.

    Oh, you're right. Thanks for the hint! I'd appreciate it, if someone could clarify that/why the ChimpSMD isn't an optimal choice though.
    Hey guys,

    I'm building a hitbox and am planning to use the ChimpSMD for it. Living in europe, my options are pretty limited, PCB wise. The only other board I could get, would be the Brook Universal Fighting Board, which would cost almost 3x as much as the Chimp.

    For the time being, I will only play SFV on PC, so I don't see any reason not to go with the Chimp. It has SOCD cleaning and supports the PC, so I should be all set.

    Am I missing something? Is there a difference in input lag between those two boards?

    Hori Fighting Commander for PS3/4/PC is your best padhack if that's an option for you. No SOCD cleaner but outside of vanilla MvC3 you won'the need one..

    I'd prefer going with a fresh PCB over gutting a controller. Also, to my understanding, the SOCD cleaner does make a difference in SFV. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  • FrakkinToasterFrakkinToaster Hurm... Joined: Posts: 374
    Anyone have their MC Cthulhu working on SNES Donkey Kong Country?
  • insomniaticmeatinsomniaticmeat Joined: Posts: 4
    edited February 17
    Torta wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    I'm building a hitbox and am planning to use the ChimpSMD for it. Living in europe, my options are pretty limited, PCB wise. The only other board I could get, would be the Brook Universal Fighting Board, which would cost almost 3x as much as the Chimp.

    For the time being, I will only play SFV on PC, so I don't see any reason not to go with the Chimp. It has SOCD cleaning and supports the PC, so I should be all set.

    Am I missing something? Is there a difference in input lag between those two boards?

    ChimpSMD is fine but.. what about XInput games as SFV (tho it now supports directinput but is a pain in the ass)?

    Maybe Brook ps3ps4fighting board would be better for you!

    Can anyone elaborate on what's wrong with SFV's DirectInput support? Because the statement that it sucks, is the only thing keeping me from getting a Chimp atm..

    Edit: Apparently no one can, so I'll go with the Brook ps3ps4 then, just to be safe. No screw terminals for me, I guess..
    Post edited by insomniaticmeat on
  • TimstuffTimstuff Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool Joined: Posts: 435
    So this is my Cthulhu / Imp switch / 360 fightpad PCB setup, which I want to add native PS4 support to:

    JGKkiJV.jpg

    I have only plugged this thing into an Xbox 360 maybe twice since I built it, and I was wondering if it's possible to just swap out the Xbox 360 PCB with one of those Brook PS4 PCBs? Or maybe a padhacked PS4 controller, if I wanted headset support? (A somewhat frivolous feature given what a pain those pads are to hack, which could easily be replaced by a $20 USB sound card if I ever need it, but I'm still curious.) Would it really be that simple or am I missing a step?
  • axelito397axelito397 Joined: Posts: 5
    I just bought an MC Cthulhu v1.4 from paradise arcade. I'm trying to update the firmware on that puppy and it seems that my two computers are not able to register the Cthulhu. It says that "unknown usb device (device failed register) code 43." Is the PCB faulty? I'm going to use it for a new sega saturn joystick, not for a pc or ps3. Should I even bother upgrading the firmware? I'm using windows 10 btw. Thanks!
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    trying to find a PiiWii pcb board, anyone gots a lead?
  • MonkeyGovernorMonkeyGovernor Joined: Posts: 191
    edited April 18
    axelito397 wrote: »
    I just bought an MC Cthulhu v1.4 from paradise arcade. I'm trying to update the firmware on that puppy and it seems that my two computers are not able to register the Cthulhu. It says that "unknown usb device (device failed register) code 43." Is the PCB faulty? I'm going to use it for a new sega saturn joystick, not for a pc or ps3. Should I even bother upgrading the firmware? I'm using windows 10 btw. Thanks!

    It should show up as a MC Cthulhu, but what you can try to do is before plugging it in, run the bootloader program to upgrade the firmware first, then plug in the USB port of the board into your PC while holding Start and Select buttons held down, and then you should be able to upgrade (and hopefully show up correctly on your PC).

    I have a Windows 10 and haven't had an issue.

    trying to find a PiiWii pcb board, anyone gots a lead?

    Sorry no idea, miss these little guys. Curious if they work on the NES Classic or if they'll work on a Switch.
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    think the best bet would be doing a pad hack on a classic controller huh?
  • MonkeyGovernorMonkeyGovernor Joined: Posts: 191
    think the best bet would be doing a pad hack on a classic controller huh?

    For the NES Classic Controller, yeah I've already done some padhacks with the Insignia versions of them since they were on sale for $5 and didn't want to destroy an official NES Classic version of the controller (seeing how much the damn things go for now on eBay).
  • axelito397axelito397 Joined: Posts: 5
    edited April 19

    It should show up as a MC Cthulhu, but what you can try to do is before plugging it in, run the bootloader program to upgrade the firmware first, then plug in the USB port of the board into your PC while holding Start and Select buttons held down, and then you should be able to upgrade (and hopefully show up correctly on your PC).

    I have a Windows 10 and haven't had an issue

    Thanks Govenor

    I tried and it seems like is plugging and unplugging in quick successions :/. So I just open the program first and plug the pcb with both star and select held down, right? Since the bootloader doesn't let me do anything because all options are grey out. I'm such a noob...lol hopefully I'll make it work tomorrow, of not i'm just going to return it. Again thank you!
  • GingerWitchGingerWitch Joined: Posts: 17
    I've got a xbox 360 fight stick pro, dual modded with a Chimp, and my wife now wants to learn tekken. I know tekken supports legacy peripherals, but is the Chimp gonna work on ps4 and be recognized as a ps3 periph? Anyone tried this?
  • TimstuffTimstuff Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool Joined: Posts: 435
    I've been trying to integrate a hacked Dualshock 4 PCB into my Cthulhu / CHIMP setup and the results have thus far been-- not so great, to put it mildy. I thought it would be as simple as swapping out my hacked 360 Madcatz Fightpad PCB for the hacked Dualshock 4 PCB but it's been one headache after another, and now I'm considering just cutting my losses on the Dualshock PCB and re-doing all the wiring in my setup (my cable management was kind of terrible anyway, but I am running into so many problems from the hex inverter not working properly to the dualshock 4 not syncing or treating it like two controllers are plugged in.

    Is there a more elegant and less buggy way to integrate native PS4 support into a Cthulhu setup? The reason I was trying to use a padhack was because I wanted headset support, but I'm starting to consider just buying a Brook PS4 PCB for my main stick and moving my Cthulhu into my secondary stick. Which would be a shame, because my main stick has a bunch of storage space that I used for all my hacked console cables. Is there a "right way" to integrate a Dualshock 4 PCB that I'm missing? I really would rather not have to drop another $60 on a PCB after mangling up a Dualshock 4 that I paid $40 for. I might be able to get an answer as to why my hex inversion isn't working from the DS4 padhack thread, but getting the the Cthulhu to consistently load up in Dualshock 4 mode has been so dodgy thus far that I'd be better off just using legacy mode if I can't make it work right.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,242
    I've got a xbox 360 fight stick pro, dual modded with a Chimp, and my wife now wants to learn tekken. I know tekken supports legacy peripherals, but is the Chimp gonna work on ps4 and be recognized as a ps3 periph? Anyone tried this?

    That only with PS4 games that has Legacy drivers
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  • drawpdrawp Joined: Posts: 54
    Hey all,

    I have a chimpSMD that I've been using on Tekken 7 since launch, but suddenly it's not being recognized as legacy.

    It defaults to PC/PS3 mode (blue LED, red LED) just fine when I plug it into a PC. However, for some reason it's going into 360 mode (blue led, green led) when I plug it in the ps4. Does anyone have any idea of what might be going wrong? I have removed the 360 padhack completely and it still boots into that mode connected to a ps4.
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    drawp wrote: »
    I have a chimpSMD that I've been using on Tekken 7 since launch, but suddenly it's not being recognized as legacy.

    It defaults to PC/PS3 mode (blue LED, red LED) just fine when I plug it into a PC. However, for some reason it's going into 360 mode (blue led, green led) when I plug it in the ps4. Does anyone have any idea of what might be going wrong? I have removed the 360 padhack completely and it still boots into that mode connected to a ps4.


    Just to rule out possibilities, have you tried re-flashing the ChImp firmware?
  • TimstuffTimstuff Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool Joined: Posts: 435
    The Dualshock 4 padhack dualmod is proving to be a bit more trouble than it's worth. It may be overkill but I am thinking of dualmodding my MC Cthulhu + Imp Switch with a Brook PS4 + Audio board. The slightly silly part will be that I'll have some redundant PS3 and PC support on both boards, but this shouldn't be a problem, I hope?

    I know it was a decade ago that Toodles actually made the MC Cthulhu board and life circumstances change in that much time, but it would have been great to see an updated MC Cthulhu with added support for PS4 and maybe even more systems-- maybe even a DAC for headset support. It's still a wonderful little board and I loved making cable hacks to use it on my numerous retro systems.
  • PobegaPobega supreme scrublord Joined: Posts: 305
    I have a ChImp SMD in a TE round 1. It isn't detected at all in Tekken 7 on the PS4.

    Is there a way to test if it's actually in PS3 mode or something?
  • TimstuffTimstuff Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool Joined: Posts: 435
    Pobega wrote: »
    I have a ChImp SMD in a TE round 1. It isn't detected at all in Tekken 7 on the PS4.

    Is there a way to test if it's actually in PS3 mode or something?

    If you press and hold LK, MP and HK either while the system is turning on or the stick is being plugged in, you should be able to force it to switch modes.
  • drawpdrawp Joined: Posts: 54
    gahrling wrote: »
    drawp wrote: »
    I have a chimpSMD that I've been using on Tekken 7 since launch, but suddenly it's not being recognized as legacy.

    It defaults to PC/PS3 mode (blue LED, red LED) just fine when I plug it into a PC. However, for some reason it's going into 360 mode (blue led, green led) when I plug it in the ps4. Does anyone have any idea of what might be going wrong? I have removed the 360 padhack completely and it still boots into that mode connected to a ps4.


    Just to rule out possibilities, have you tried re-flashing the ChImp firmware?

    I have. I did it to the most recent version firmware available on the front page.
  • drawpdrawp Joined: Posts: 54
    I'm going to take a short video of what's happening. Bear with me
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    https://streamable.com/dqq4z

    This should explain what's going on. Thank you for the help so far.
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