The King of Fighters 2002: Unlimited Match Thread

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  • CronopioCronopio ST Joined: Posts: 1,927
    I don't see why she couldn't make it in, since she's been in NESTS games.
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    id give up k9999 to get rid of angel and maylee cause im a hater

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  • AnakronAnakron Alpha Male Joined: Posts: 2,391
    Is stupid ass NESTS Robert in the game? You know, the one with the charge command throw?
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  • CronopioCronopio ST Joined: Posts: 1,927
    I don't think so, 2k2 Robert had his normal motions (with a crippled move list though). They could include him as an alternate character perhaps, but I wouldn't bet on it considering how much people hated that version.
  • Hatred EdgeHatred Edge MAD STRUGGLE Joined: Posts: 15,902
    99 and 2000 Robert was charge type... 2001 was command and had crazy combos too.

    He had a charge command throw? Wow. That's automatically unplayable for me.
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    Man, i know i aint the only one who thinks that the NESTS saga was and still the worst part of KOF.
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  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    2000 is th eb est

    snk needs to get on some kof2000um
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    With Strikers?

    I cant wait to see the outcome of this. :S
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  • Leebee LinkLeebee Link (they/them) Joined: Posts: 2,260
    99's presentation and atmosphere was pretty badass

    things like kyo's intro animation with his headband comes to mind



    Robert in 2k1 was pretty awesome
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  • DivemanDiveman Loli-zoning Joined: Posts: 2,657
    Im trying to figure how they are gonna put Jhun there, I mean he could go with May lee, but the 3rd one?

    also im seeing that Jhun is not gonna be the kind of character with long and damaging as hell combos (well..he has nerver been..except for the Dragon Step infinite) like Vanessa or Yama. Probably as a battery he could work. Lin looks promising enought to play him
  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    jhun is always super strong in every kof he is in, just no one really plays him
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  • TurbovecTurbovec Crazed Johnny user! Joined: Posts: 1,000
    jhun is always super strong in every kof he is in, just no one really plays him

    Uh...wasn't he the most used character other than Duo Lon in 2K3? Aside from Mallin, I can't think of any other characters used more than those 3.
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  • Leebee LinkLeebee Link (they/them) Joined: Posts: 2,260
    yeah in 2k3 it was pretty much double d then jhun and malin



    in 99 he wasn't all that hot
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  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    yea im not sure about 99 either. he hes anything like his 2000 version then he wouldve dominated easily even with kensou in that game cause everyone else is balls. in 2000 he is in the top tier. in 2k3 yea i remember people using his float bug but only against duolon rofl. but 2k3 is an extremely unpopular game, it didnt really cross my mind and tbqh i never saw all that many jhuns in it.
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    99 jhun wasnt hot, but 01 robert was the shit.i remember playing him with these insane juggle combos i really camt remember toom well involving his grab and dp canselled into dp super with something of a wall splat in it. really gotta play this game again. looks where one of the worst ever in a kof along with 2k2 but gameplay and especially combo options where some of the best ever in this kof IMO.
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  • DivemanDiveman Loli-zoning Joined: Posts: 2,657
    jhun is always super strong in every kof he is in, just no one really plays him

    I used to...a lot actually

    2000 jhun is the shit, lots of setup up for his Dragon Step infinite, plus godly stance movs.

    2k3 jhun was good too, a bit changed but still good as hell
  • Shotokan SymphonyShotokan Symphony FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX Joined: Posts: 1,703
    2000 is th eb est

    snk needs to get on some kof2000um

    I'd buy a KOF2000: UM WAAAAAAY before 2K2: UM. I mean, why the fuck bother playing 98:UM with a different roster and SLIGHTLY different game mechanics?

    Or do you your mother actually miss shitty hidden supers?
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  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    well 2k2 has new billy and new kim

    i was kinda hoin they buff 98 billy close to 2k2 billy but they didnt. they did good with 98um kim tho
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    Nothing stopping them from putting 2K2 Billy into 2K:UM. I mean, it IS a dream match.

    But hey, SNK has been rolling with silly decisions, so why stop now?
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    I'd buy a KOF2000: UM WAAAAAAY before 2K2: UM. I mean, why the fuck bother playing 98:UM with a different roster and SLIGHTLY different game mechanics?

    Because 2002 it's actually a quite different game compared to 98 and no one cares about 2000?
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    May-Lee and jhun and i'll be happy....
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  • Virtua_LeonVirtua_Leon Gal me seeeerious Joined: Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    99 and 2000 Robert was charge type... 2001 was command and had crazy combos too.

    He had a charge command throw? Wow. That's automatically unplayable for me.

    in 99 it was not a throw the entire thing was blockable, yeah it was d, u +p you could juggle with it after, i cannot quite remember if he had it in 2000 (been ages since i used robert in it)

    As for 99 jhun not being that hot? you have to be joking, his stance moves were fucking stupid his dd+A stance was too good, the D move was an instant gc(and is fast as fuck)which could use follow ups such as foward B for guranteed damage it charged your meter in seconds, not to mention his infinent his easy combos stupidly good normals (standing D could punish shit from over half the screen away) he's as good as 2000 jhun if not better.
    Play 99 jhun then play 2000 jhun you'll see it for youself it's that obvious

    99 was a funny game, so many characters had bizzare changes
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    yeah, gonna have to agree with virtua leon. 99 jhun was stupid good, his stances were TOO godlike, and he had one of the best CD attacks in the game, period.

    in fact his CD attack was SO good in 99 that they changed that shit in 2000.
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    Bao being a crazy beast in 99 was pretty awesome.
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    Is this available for preorder or anything yet? I dont see it on any sites like play asia or w/e..
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    It's going to be presented at TGS for the first time and it's only 60% done IIRC, so it will take a time before it's available for preorder I guess.
  • Shotokan SymphonyShotokan Symphony FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX Joined: Posts: 1,703
    Because 2002 it's actually a quite different game compared to 98 and no one cares about 2000?

    The people who cared about 2K2 care about 98 more, and it sure as hell doesn't warrant a NEW UM for a game that isn't that different.

    But hey, SNK fans love having the opportunity to prove how they'll eat just about anything SNK puts out.
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  • CronopioCronopio ST Joined: Posts: 1,927
    People who play 2k2 usually don't play 98. And both games are different enough. It's an Alpha 2 to Alpha 3 difference.

    So yeah, a remake for the most popular KOF at the moment sounds pretty logical.
  • Hatred EdgeHatred Edge MAD STRUGGLE Joined: Posts: 15,902
    The people who cared about 2K2 care about 98 more, and it sure as hell doesn't warrant a NEW UM for a game that isn't that different.

    But hey, SNK fans love having the opportunity to prove how they'll eat just about anything SNK puts out.

    Do you know how much money SNK would make if they ever realized that they can just release the same game over and over again and charge 50 bucks for it? All SNK has to do is "keep KOF true to it's roots" i.e. play like 98. Throw in some other characters and take out moves and bam. 50 bucks.
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  • Leebee LinkLeebee Link (they/them) Joined: Posts: 2,260
    The people who cared about 2K2 care about 98 more, and it sure as hell doesn't warrant a NEW UM for a game that isn't that different.

    But hey, SNK fans love having the opportunity to prove how they'll eat just about anything SNK puts out.

    wow you're wrong
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    The people who cared about 2K2 care about 98 more
    thats wrong
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    2k2 was mainly made to appeal to '98 folk, I don't think the division between the two is that great. It probably just has more to do with the character selection and maybe some of the MAX subsystems.
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    Alpha 2 and Alpha 3.
  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    2k2 was mainly made to appeal to '98 folk, I don't think the division between the two is that great. It probably just has more to do with the character selection and maybe some of the MAX subsystems.
    forget who it was meant for, im talkin about who actually plays the games
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  • Shotokan SymphonyShotokan Symphony FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX Joined: Posts: 1,703
    I will never, NEVER understand the SNK scene, especially people who play 2K2 over 98.

    Jesus fucking Christ. *unsubscribes*
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  • CronopioCronopio ST Joined: Posts: 1,927
    Yeah how can people like different things, it's outrageous.
  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    I will never, NEVER understand the SNK scene, especially people who play 2K2 over 98.

    Jesus fucking Christ. *unsubscribes*
    rofl
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  • rogueyoshirogueyoshi Nothing Comes Easy Joined: Posts: 1,927
    its called playing different games
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  • Leebee LinkLeebee Link (they/them) Joined: Posts: 2,260
    I will never, NEVER understand the SNK scene, especially people who play 2K2 over 98.

    Jesus fucking Christ. *unsubscribes*

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    its called playing different games

    I know I unsubscribed, but


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    Please do what you promised and stop posting because you clearly have no idea on what you are talking about.
  • Shotokan SymphonyShotokan Symphony FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX Joined: Posts: 1,703
    2K2 is 98 with a different cast, shittier graphics, modified Armor and Offensive modes, and crappier sound. I'm sure this makes me sound like a bigot, but I'd give it a better chance if it didn't look and sound like chronic diarrhea.

    The fact that you guys want MORE of that, and even PREFER that over XI or 98, sickens me. At least SNK knows its market. Keep spending that cash, guys!

    And you're right, I shouldn't be trolling a thread. I'm sorry about that, but... jesus christ, comparing 2k2 to 98 is like comparing Budweiser to Dinkel Acker.
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  • Dandy JDandy J now you face a super saiyan shaolin Joined: Posts: 2,790
    2k2 doesnt have armor/counter mode

    do you even play kof?
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  • Shotokan SymphonyShotokan Symphony FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX Joined: Posts: 1,703
    I really don't remember what it has. It had that cancel mode. I just typed armor because I was in a flurry.

    Damn it, Dandy, not you too!
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  • CronopioCronopio ST Joined: Posts: 1,927
    2k2 is 98 with shittier antiairs and normal priority, emphasis on execution and combos, super cancels, max mode cancels, max mode doesn't give damage bonus but a damage penalty, roll cancel combos, faster speed, wire attacks, different throw teching, not only different cast but the recurring characters play pretty differently, and many things I'm forgetting. So other than being 3 on 3 and KOFs, they aren't that similar.

    I repeat, they are as similar as Alpha 2 and Alpha 3. The difference may be even bigger.
  • DJ EtherDJ Ether Send them to the cementary. Joined: Posts: 236
    2K2 is 98 with a different cast, shittier graphics, modified Armor and Offensive modes, and crappier sound. I'm sure this makes me sound like a bigot, but I'd give it a better chance if it didn't look and sound like chronic diarrhea.

    The fact that you guys want MORE of that, and even PREFER that over XI or 98, sickens me. At least SNK knows its market. Keep spending that cash, guys!

    And you're right, I shouldn't be trolling a thread. I'm sorry about that, but... jesus christ, comparing 2k2 to 98 is like comparing Budweiser to Dinkel Acker.

    Relax son, let people spend money any way they want. Nobody forces you to buy 2k2UM. If you dont want it, dont buy it.
  • Shotokan SymphonyShotokan Symphony FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX Joined: Posts: 1,703
    Yeah, sorry for shitting your thread up, guys, but... sigh. I miss the pre-Eolith/SNKP years, when voice actors didn't sound like tweens, attacks sounded good, and music was great. That's what drew me into KOF in the first place.

    Excuse me for not knowing the technical terms. :p
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  • Leebee LinkLeebee Link (they/them) Joined: Posts: 2,260
    lol i'm really not a fan of 2002 at all, i was just calling you out on crap you didn't know

    TDK av is great :tup:

    and I feel your pain... especially about the music
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  • Hatred EdgeHatred Edge MAD STRUGGLE Joined: Posts: 15,902
    Ah.. 2002's music was such ass. To this day I cannot begin to understand how the hell SNK thought they did well with that crap.

    Although with all the additions 2002 had, it really doesn't seem that different from 98 to me. But hey, I'm not that deep into KOF(yet) anyway.
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  • DJ EtherDJ Ether Send them to the cementary. Joined: Posts: 236
    Yeah, sorry for shitting your thread up, guys, but... sigh. I miss the pre-Eolith/SNKP years, when voice actors didn't sound like tweens, attacks sounded good, and music was great. That's what drew me into KOF in the first place.

    Excuse me for not knowing the technical terms. :p

    I agree, after the demise of SNK it just isnt the same. SNKP is trying, I support companies who still go with 2D after all these years.
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