Chun-Li HD Remix

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  • BlueMary69BlueMary69 If I Drown let me Sink Joined: Posts: 749
    Oh yea Here's the last time i played DGV in the Ranbat Tournament some ideas you can get on how to maybe counter ryu..

    http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/Queti883/?action=view&current=007-1.flv

    if any questions about anything feel free to ask me :)

    I'll try and uplaod the video to youtube when i get home cause the photobucket takes forever to load and i apologize for the crappy recording my friend drinks about 4 monsters a day hes hands are very shaky...
  • zasszass Da 'Mizer Joined: Posts: 1,122
    Yeah I know what you mean about the defensive ryus too.. I can't beat that either. I lose to defensive ryus and offensive ryus lol. Basically I lose to any good ryu no matter what :(
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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    Yeah I know what you mean about the defensive ryus too.. I can't beat that either. I lose to defensive ryus and offensive ryus lol. Basically I lose to any good ryu no matter what :(

    Chun-Li vs. Ryu was already difficult in VST. Sirlin made it even more difficult with the bizarre nerfs (flip kick, super damage, SBK invulnerability, maybe a couple others). Well OK actually not bizarre at all considering Sirlin is a Dictator player.

    Ryu routinely wins or places in tournaments (mid tier my ass), but he gets a buff and Chun-Li gets nerfed. Tell me that doesn't suck c... tell me that doesn't suck.

    When fighting a Ryu of equal or greater competence in HDR, I just say a few words to Almighty God as the little airplane flies to "JAPAN!" or wherever. Skill will get you halfway, you need divine intervention for the rest.

    Funny thing is, of the three chars I play, Chun-Li has the best odds.

    I #@!%ing hate Ryu.
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  • blitzfublitzfu Cosmic Power Joined: Posts: 3,072
    I #@!%ing hate Ryu.

    Funny thing is, Ryu players hate Chun Li. The feeling is mutual.:arazz::rofl:

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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    Funny thing is, Ryu players hate Chun Li. The feeling is mutual.:arazz::rofl:

    Pretty easy fight, dude. Jumping in takes care of what fireballs can't handle, she can't match his projectiles and her anti-air is garbage (now more than ever in HDR).

    Good Ryu players hate Dhalsim, Zangief, Boxer, Sagat. Maybe Claw. 's about it.
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  • Heavenly ClawHeavenly Claw God cant help u NOW! Joined: Posts: 207
    Chun get still play rough with him. A good Chun can get past his zone and poke the snot out of Ryu.

    Her anti air is nothing special, but Chun isn't absolutely defenseless.

    This match generally favors Ryu, but if the Chun player knows the rush game, it can be hard for Mr. Shoto.
  • blitzfublitzfu Cosmic Power Joined: Posts: 3,072
    Pretty easy fight, dude.

    Ryu does have the advantage over Chun, but there"s no way this is an easy fight.
  • BlueMary69BlueMary69 If I Drown let me Sink Joined: Posts: 749
    Well Choi,Valle and DGV sure make it seem easy....

    Strat to be continue still..
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Now that sounds like a fun room You me and Zass VS Choi, Valle and DGV LOL
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  • blitzfublitzfu Cosmic Power Joined: Posts: 3,072
    Well Choi,Valle and DGV sure make it seem easy....

    Strat to be continue still..

    Well yeah, but that's cuz they're GDLK. If I had to fight Otochun or TechnicalMonkey, my Ryu would be beasted easily. And I have been beasted, no doubts. = J
  • SG10xSG10x Blanka Sucks Joined: Posts: 402
    I can agree it might not feel super easy for Ryu, but after watching alot of Mongolo at tournaments when he has had to face watson, choi, valle, and DGV, it almost seemed chun li had no response to them I know its possible but he had to work so hard to make it happen

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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Got anymore good vids with these 2 (Otochun, TechnicalMonkey) vs a good Ryu?
    I've seen Otochun vs Daigo but not anything with TechnicalMonkey. It's weird cause there was a time when I thought I had this match figured out to an extent but now I've either gotten worse or their getting better (or maybe just taking advantage or his new tools)? This match is always an uphill battle but I feel that much better when I do win even if it is by the skin of my teeth.
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Nice thanks!! BTW Blitz where you been man I haven't played you in ages?
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    What should Chun Li be doing against Fei Long? And how do you counter Chicken Wings?
  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    What should Chun Li be doing against Fei Long? And how do you counter Chicken Wings?

    Counter chicken wing with either the almighty :u:+:lk: or standing :hk:.

    As for what you should be doing vs. Fei, I can't answer questions like that at length, because once you get past a fundamental, groundwork strategy that applies to multiple characters, you really have to fight the guy controlling the character, not the character itself.

    I mean, you know, do what Chun does best, for starters. Throw lots of :lp: fireballs without being rhythmical about it, and throw standing :hk: and :u:+:lk: in there to discourage the stupid chicken wing. Then, when you've got the guy demoralized, start with the real meat of her game: pokes and throws.

    After that, you gotta figure out what kind of player the guy is, and go from there. Like Mike McDermott says in Rounders, "the key to the game is playing the man, not the cards."

    I will add that, given the low state of competition in this, the HDR era of Super Turbo, poking and throwing will be more than enough to win vs. 75% of your opponents. Most players (that includes most people who post on these forums) are indistinguishable from one another; I don't know where these kids learned this crap, but the prevailing modus operandi is something like jumping back and randomly pressing buttons, hoping the other guy will make a mistake on which one can capitalize. (I mean, I am fighting turtle Cammys, for f**k's sake. That is how low we've sunk in this game.) Players who play like that usually fold under pressure, as they never do enough actual fighting to develop the nerve it takes to counter a poke/throw assault.

    Hell, I'm not even quite sure why I still play this game. I think the Japanese players are the only ones keeping me interested. Fought YuuVega's Dictator last night, what a refreshing match that was! Just like old times (back when people actually fought).
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Appreciate the words of wisdom MiloDC :)
  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    I can agree it might not feel super easy for Ryu, but after watching alot of Mongolo at tournaments when he has had to face watson, choi, valle, and DGV, it almost seemed chun li had no response to them I know its possible but he had to work so hard to make it happen

    To be fair, blitzfu does have a point about DGV, Choi, et al. being elite Ryu players. I don't know about DGV (who never seems to play any other character), but hell, I bet Choi, Valle, and Watson could use Honda and still give a player as good as Mongolo a run for his money.

    Heck, Shinya Ohnuki's Chun beat Alex Valle's Ryu at Evo 2K8. Handily, at that.

    Of course, Nuki is better at ST than Alex (I think).
    EDIT: I know he is. His Chun-Li beat John Choi's O.Sagat.
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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    Epic Dagio Ryu / Nuki Chun match:

    Daigo shows in the last match there why Chun-Li hates this fight. (Ryu out-zones her, if he gets position on her she has no way to force him out of it without sticking her neck out, best she can do is :df:+:hk: to screw with his spacing.)
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  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,187
    Just came in here to say that I just noticed Youtube links are auto-embedding now and that shit's awesome. Oh, I also hate Chun. Carry on :D
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  • BlueMary69BlueMary69 If I Drown let me Sink Joined: Posts: 749
    What should Chun Li be doing against Fei Long? And how do you counter Chicken Wings?

    Funny thing about that almighty :u::lk: is that it will counter an average fei long player in HD back in Vanilla days you could spam that all day and counter fei all through the match creating him to look for the flame kick punish, but in hd remix hes chicken wing is a nightmare for chun-li..

    Case in point The Aqua Snake open my eyes and made me hate this match up, in my opinion Besides Ryu being my hardest match in HD i say feilong follwed by T-hawk are chun's next worst match up's. The Aqua Snake is no average fei long player he made me hate this match so much that i even considered switching and learning one character just so i could counter him in tournament. My best counter that i have found for chun against fei long's chicken wing is to antisapate it and hit it with a spinning bird kick it will beat it clean and its great damage. Now say you get trapped in the corner... well just sit back relax and let the mix up's begin..

    This is a video of the first time i faced The Aqua Snake in tournament, i had played him before in casuals but never really felt the wrath of fei lone until this day...lol

    After this match up i went home and i had BlueTallCans just chicken wing me in the corner and tried to figure something out but any normal that i did or moved at the right distance for Fei-long would stuff me clean so my best bet was to get a reversal spinning bird kick from the corner and have it trade in the air so we could both get the knocked down then create some space for my self..

    since then im 2-0 against him in tournaments but its no easy job just alot of studying lol i love and hate this match up but its always fun playing fei-long!!! Dam You Aqua Snake:lovin:

    As for strategy goes i try and throw alot of fireballs in this match you will find that fei players are agressive and like to walk foward at you and anticipate one of our fireballs so they can chicken wing thru it so make them get in this pattern by throwing some fireballs and bating out the chicken But!! be sure you know your zoning just because you bait it out doesnt mean you can punish know your spacing and you can punish it as well.

    on fei's wake up chun's meaty Palm which is her FP is a good way to make fei stop trying to reversal flame kick. Don't always rely on this because it can be reversal but its just a good tool to keep in mind.

    Use Chun's speed to your advantage!!! Hey just because fei-long can walk fast doesn't mean we can's walk fast tooo use this to your advantage as chun can grab that fast little fei lol

    So in my opinion in this match try and be the agressive one don't let fei-long corner you try and be the one taking him to the ropes!!!
  • BlueMary69BlueMary69 If I Drown let me Sink Joined: Posts: 749
    Now that sounds like a fun room You me and Zass VS Choi, Valle and DGV LOL

    that would be legit

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  • skankin garbageskankin garbage ARE YOU OKAY!? Joined: Posts: 961
    Ok let me jump in here and give the main reason why I lose. Maybe you can help me out BlueMary :)

    My main problem is ryus that are aggressive. I know it sounds stupid but I don't have any answer to ryus who jump in RH at close range. At that mid range they jump in with RH, then low RH -> fake FB, or any other random shit, and then ONE KNOCKDOWN and it's over, because it's ambiguous jump RH into all sorts of bull shit (and if its DGV then EVERYTHING HE DOES ENDS IN A SUPER). So I can't win the damage game.

    It's retarded but I can't beat ryus that do that. Don't get me wrong, I can beat most ryus. But guys like DGV, choi, royalplush (he's good too), damdai.. there's just nothing I can do -- and it's mostly because of them attacking with jump RH.

    I've tried walk up standing MK and most of the time I just eat a combo and a super when I do that. And I know about walking back and making them land on a fireball, and about walking forward and doing a walk under throw or sac throw. All of that stuff works great against average ryus. But against top ryus, WORTHLESS.

    PLZ HALP

    I think that to beat aggro Ryus, you have to fight fire with fire. Your goal is to walk up and throw him a lot, and maybe land the super if you can. To do it, though, you need to get right in their face and footsie like a champ. When rushing down Ryu, I use at least all of these moves:

    - S.Mk is good at the right range cos it beats Hadouken and Hurricane Kicks clean out of their startup.

    - S.Mp is important cos of its range and speed; it can also beat fireballs clean out of their startup.

    - S.Lk seems bad at first, but it's the least vulnerable move of those three (S.Mp's vulnerable box is much larger, and S.Mk recovers slower).

    - C.Mk is similar to S.Mk, but Hurricanes will whiff, and it's less susceptible to jumps.

    - S.Hk can beat fireballs, but it's mainly there to stuff an anticipated jump-in attempt.

    - S.Lp is an excellent thing to throw in between these moves for feints. They can trick an opponent into jumping at you, or they might bait a Shoryuken.

    - C.Lk from max range will dodge a Shoryuken, making it invaluable as a meaty in this match (keep in mind that this does NOT work on Ken).

    I think of it like scoring a shot against a goalie. You know what your objective is (score a goal, i.e throw him a lot), and you know your main tools for scoring a goal (i.e S.Mp, S.Mk and C.Mk), but a good goalie is gonna be ready for that all day. To get past a good defense, you need to do things that belie the defender's expectations and cause them to defend against the wrong things at the wrong times. You need to add some ambiguity to your offense, and that's what all the other moves are for.

    So, how does this deal with your problem?

    1. It's much easier to AA Ryu at close and mid range with S.Hk, and Neutral J.Hk when you're setting the pace of the match

    2. It's a lot harder for him to jump when you're in his face, giving him more important things to worry about, and

    3. You can walk under his jump-ins and reset with Close S.Lp if you're up in his face.

    I think an extremely aggressive style is key in this match, but you have to pull it off verrrry well, or else you'll be in a ton of trouble. It's probably the hardest approach to the matchup, but it's a lot easier than waiting for Ryu to fireball you to death, gain a crapload of meter and ruin your day.
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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    Funny thing about that almighty :u::lk: is that it will counter an average fei long player in HD back in Vanilla days you could spam that all day and counter fei all through the match creating him to look for the flame kick punish, but in hd remix hes chicken wing is a nightmare for chun-li..

    You puzzle me, because in the video that you posted, I'm pretty sure that your :up::lk: beat his chicken wing every single time.

    When you talk about not being able to beat it, are you specifically referring to close range chicken wing?
    Case in point The Aqua Snake open my eyes and made me hate this match up, in my opinion Besides Ryu being my hardest match in HD i say feilong follwed by T-hawk are chun's next worst match up's.

    I need to challenge Aqua Snake, I know that you are both exceptional players so I might be missing something.

    In my experience, though, Fei Long (classic or HDR) loses to Chun-Li. T.Hawk, Sagat, Ryu, and Ken (in that order) are far more formidable opponents for Chun-Li.
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  • skankin garbageskankin garbage ARE YOU OKAY!? Joined: Posts: 961
    The problem is that, at point blank range, Chicken Wing WILL beat Neutral J.Lk and S.Hk. From farther away, those moves are boss, but if you're cornered, you're at a range where they will lose clean every time. So, you have to rely on stuff like Upkicking through it (very hard), hitting him out of the beginning of the Chicken Wing with a normal or Chundouken (pretty unsafe, because your move is sure to miss if he does Lk Chicken Wing), or doing an instant headstomp out of it (have fun if he does Flame Kick instead). It forces Chun to choose from a ton of really unsafe options.

    I play Aqua Snake a fair amount, and to me, the match is in Fei's favor, but not by a large margin. You have to trick Fei into jumping, and capitalize on your knockdowns. Aqua can probly testify, our matches are total blowouts - either he beats the hell out of me, or I beat the hell out of him. Whoever gets the advantageous situation first is likely to win. It's dangerous to close the gap with Fei, but once he does (and I mean, virtually point blank range), you're pretty much screwed.
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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    The problem is that, at point blank range, Chicken Wing WILL beat Neutral J.Lk and S.Hk. From farther away, those moves are boss, but if you're cornered, you're at a range where they will lose clean every time. So, you have to rely on stuff like Upkicking through it (very hard), hitting him out of the beginning of the Chicken Wing with a normal or Chundouken (pretty unsafe, because your move is sure to miss if he does Lk Chicken Wing), or doing an instant headstomp out of it (have fun if he does Flame Kick instead). It forces Chun to choose from a ton of really unsafe options.

    Heh, yeah, I had edited my post to ask whether it was specifically the close range CW that is giving people headaches.

    Rough. How about just jumping away, like when you throw Zangief or Dhalsim and he techs out?
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  • skankin garbageskankin garbage ARE YOU OKAY!? Joined: Posts: 961
    Jumping back can be alright, I do that sometimes. This is probably obvious, but it's no use in the corner, and of course, jumping back is more likely to get you in the corner. It can be pretty vicious.
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  • blitzfublitzfu Cosmic Power Joined: Posts: 3,072
    Nice thanks!! BTW Blitz where you been man I haven't played you in ages?

    I know, I know bro. I'm currently MIA. We had some really awesome sessions. = J I learned a lot about this match from your crazy ass Chun Li. Looking forward to doing it again soon.
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    @Milo - I used to think this match was in Chun's favor especially with the j :lk: stuffing every CW attempt but The Aqua Snake and I put in a marathon set one day and we found that the close :lk: CW will hit Chun out of anything she throws because if it's invincible startup. Fei's best weapon is the corner in this match and I do everything I can to stay out. Chun needs to fight this in the middle of the room and on her terms or Fei will rape you lol I can think of a hand full of Fei players than know this match up The Aqua Snake followed by pncnTiger aka Rice247, EVO aka Embrio *sp and Sirlin These guys will give your Chun a serious workout.

    @skankin garbage - I like your list of pokes and I use them often (although I'll have to experiment with c :lk: a little more) but I always have trouble poking Ryu through his Hadoken startup because it seems like his hit box is moved back or maybe they are just stepping back out of my poking range. So every poke turns into a Hadoken right in the face :( The other thing I have trouble dealing with is the :lk: Tatsumaki-Senp? kyaku at close range. If I block it I can usually throw or counter it but it's when it whiffs that I have the most trouble. I tend to do c :mp: and if it lands that I can string in a few more hits but 9 out of 10 time I get thrown or eat a SRK. Any advice on how you guys deal with these things?
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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    @Milo - I used to think this match was in Chun's favor especially with the j :lk: stuffing every CW attempt but The Aqua Snake and I put in a marathon set one day and we found that the close :lk: CW will hit Chun out of anything she throws because if it's invincible startup.

    This sounds like a job for SBK.

    Oh wait, that has crap invulnerability, now.

    LOL, just another match that Chun-Li loses now thanks to Sirlin's ghastly nerfs.
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Yeah SBK gets stuffed what I try to do is a s :mk: to catch him before the kick comes out but it leaves me open to so may other things like Fei's cr :hp: or his rekka punch or even the flame kick. The corner is a bad place to be in this and many other matchs :(
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    @ Voltech. For the Ryu light tastu depending on the range, s. jap, c.strong, s.strong s. forward. These are ideas from the top of my head I'mma test it out and get back to you tonight. As for Fei Long I play run away and zone most the time. The CW in the Corner trap. I wait for the Roundhouse CW to walk under or the opportunity to throw out the corner, I use s. short sometimes myself but its hard because like you said Fei has a few options to exploit.
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  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    The corner is a bad place to be in this and many other matchs :(

    Noddin' my head like yeah.

    Especially if the opponent has air dominance (e.g. Blanka, Zangief, T.Hawk), it's like, OK let's try harder next round.
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  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    Daigo shows in the last match there why Chun-Li hates this fight. (Ryu out-zones her, if he gets position on her she has no way to force him out of it without sticking her neck out, best she can do is :df:+:hk: to screw with his spacing.)
    I am with skankin garbage on this one. Chun must put Ryu in his place if she wants to win. The last part of that video just shows Nuki getting baited like there is no tomorrow and eating a high damage meter building combo twice. The match just means nothing, like a match with a Chun guessing a fireball and applying a 3-hit-knockdown into overhead or throw ->dizzy->GGPO would mean nothing. One player was predicted and ate big damage, that's it.

    I will not question Nuki's skill, he is a great player, but there are better Chuns out there. And better Ryus also, and it was a decisive match, there was a lot of tension and hype there. Otochun seems to beat Ryus like they are helpless against standing forward and roundhouse beating their hadoukens, jump ins and dodging their ground attacks; jump ins that always end in a 3-hit combo and often a knock down, followed by either a reversal bait, instant overhead or meaty cr.forward; walk up throws; anti-airs that beat any jump in (yes, she does have answer to close jump ins, which are jump back throw, st.rh, st.fw, walk under throw, walk under cr.fw or st.jab). When Chun gets up close, all Ryu can really do is to throw a red hadouken between her pokes for a knockdown and hope it does not get countered and throw a few pokes that lose to pretty much anything Chun has but prevent her from simply walking up and throwing him. He will die a miserable death unless she gets knocked down. From a distance, it is similar to the Guile matchup: Ryu must throw a number of projectiles (3 to 5) to revert the tide and force Chun to jump, but it can mean game over if it gets predicted. He has to often use rush punch to get at the end of Chun's jump arc and hope for a jump in, else he is forced to block and accept the chip damage, or even eat a faster kikouken. Also, walking up and blocking at the last possible instant to reduce the gap or using SRK if she jumps helps him. Ryu wins a bit more than 50% of the matches because the damage he does when he guesses right and does a fierce SRK into safe jump, crossovers on wake up that Chun must guess to avoid and such and the number of situations it happens makes him do, in average, a bit more damage than Chun does with her dominant game. If Chun can not dominate Ryu and force him to take risks, she has no business expecting to win.

    Milo, it may sound like I'm flaming you, I really ain't, I just disagree on the Chun matchup. I totally agree with you on the SBK thing. I hate it in ST, and it isn't any amazing or game breaking move, far from it. It is just useful, but I don't like the Chuns I face having useful moves cos they can kill me for a single mistake as long as she is not dead.

    BTW, those Chuns made a number of mistakes. As an instance, every time she gets an aerial short on Ryu and lands in range, she can combo him. As for Nuki, he was defaulting to the instant land into throw shenanigan too much and wasted a number of situations to instantly kill Ryu. He also didn't explore Daigo's excessive use of reversals once, nor used any instant overheads, even when it was blatant that Ryu was about to get dizzy and would block low. Other Chuns like Chamu or Otochun could have won those matches by being more consistent and using a better offensive game.
    @ Voltech. For the Ryu light tastu depending on the range, s. jap, c.strong, s.strong s. forward. These are ideas from the top of my head I'mma test it out and get back to you tonight.
    This is gold. Standing roundhouse, too, if you are close and expect either the tatsu, the hadouken or the projectile, and from the right distance it makes sweeps whiff. It is harder online, tough, but pretty much shut him down and force him to default to a hadouken after a poke of yours. Which is when you walk up and throw his sorry ass.

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  • BlueMary69BlueMary69 If I Drown let me Sink Joined: Posts: 749
    yes i meant when chun is cornerd the chicken wing will beat chun almost every time

    As for Ryu's Light lick Tatsu i just use HK lighting legs to stuff it
  • skankin garbageskankin garbage ARE YOU OKAY!? Joined: Posts: 961
    Something I learned from NKI's contributions on the wiki: if Ryu is alrady in mid-Hurricane Kick, S.Lk deals with it, no problem.
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  • Akae47Akae47 Anti-Shoto 4 Life Joined: Posts: 496
    Something I learned from NKI's contributions on the wiki: if Ryu is alrady in mid-Hurricane Kick, S.Lk deals with it, no problem.

    yea thats what I said. s.lk its a good stuffer. Great minds think alike
    I got that B-Boy swag. All I do is BLOCK!!!!!
    There no such thing as a Pro-Players in videos games. Stop labeling people that take your money.
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  • Akae47Akae47 Anti-Shoto 4 Life Joined: Posts: 496
    Something I learned from NKI's contributions on the wiki: if Ryu is alrady in mid-Hurricane Kick, S.Lk deals with it, no problem.

    yea thats what I said. s.lk its a good stuffer. Great minds think alike:cool::china::smile:
    I got that B-Boy swag. All I do is BLOCK!!!!!
    There no such thing as a Pro-Players in videos games. Stop labeling people that take your money.
    Join Team Big Fundamentals.
  • MiloDCMiloDC You betcha! Joined: Posts: 473
    Something I learned from NKI's contributions on the wiki: if Ryu is alrady in mid-Hurricane Kick, S.Lk deals with it, no problem.

    yea thats what Akae47 said. s.lk its a good stuffer. Great minds think alike
    "MiloDC is quite cute. I'm gay." -- Shari
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