The Dynasty/Samurai/Gundam/Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star) Warriors thread

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  • D0MNapalmD0MNapalm Joined: Posts: 411
    Clone Warriors indeed


    Bruh I've been called this Shit... It is what it is at this point
  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Supposedly each of the characters are going to have their own distinct moveset................so I'm gonna wait until I see some more gameplay footage.
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  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,842
    edited September 6
    people in ancient china basically used the same standard weapons and martial arts disciplines in warfare.
    generally swords, spears and bows that rarely differ in appearance and use.

    DW9 is more natural having clone weapons/movesets, it makes it a little more authentic to the Record of the Three Kingdoms, which Dynasty Warriors is based on, and warriors in ancient china really don't display noticable differences in how they use a weapon, or differences in the type of weapon used.



    complaining about cloned weapons/movesets in DW, is like people in the modern military complaining about clone guns, as well as the same procedures and methods of using standard firearms, knives and other weapons.

    the ones complaining about cloned movesets in DW, just have yet to grow up, and out of the over the top swiss army knife of weapon variety and movesets.

    even Fire Emblem fanbase is more mature in comparison, and their weapons and moves are very limited, basically sword, spear, axe and book, with a few others, but generally a basic weapon triangle with little to no variations of differences in how each character wields a weapon, no generally no one has a weapon type exclusive to them. and same weapon category wielders generally have the same attack animations.

    so at this point, Fire Emblem is more natural and mature than Dynasty Warriors been doing with weapons and movesets.
  • xEGAxBeastkingxxEGAxBeastkingx Sorry about yo damn luck Joined: Posts: 2,596
    D0MNapalm wrote: »
    Clone Warriors indeed


    Bruh I've been called this Shit... It is what it is at this point

    Ah so it was you. I remembered someone here said it but I couldn't remember who.
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  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,842
    edited September 8
    its so great they are adding more visible townspeople in towns!! So epic!! more immersive and alive!

    DW9_09-07-17_014.jpg

    also, ultra rare Diaochan concept art

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJLFtqFV4AATLZO.jpg

    the state combo system really is innovating and improving the combat in lots of ways, as well as other gameplay aspects!!
    DW9 is raising the standards!!

    http://www.koeitecmoamerica.com/dw9/system_action.html
  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 1,958
    Can we talk about Jia Chong getting one of the worst and boring weapons of DW8? Throwing axes weren't even that fancy, come on!
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  • KurokunKurokun Joined: Posts: 2,068
    edited September 14
    Fire Emblem Warriors Gameplay Trailer - Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Direct 9.13.2017
    • 0:45 - Lyn reveal

    http://gematsu.com/2017/09/fire-emblem-warriors-adds-lyn
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    http://gematsu.com/2017/09/dynasty-warriors-9-details-wang-yi-yu-jin-zhang-liao-huang-gai-deng-ai-guo-huai-xiahou-ba

    I really hope there is a valid justification on Omega Force's side for the weapon sharing this time around...............although Deng Ai's axe looks great.
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  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,842
    edited September 14
    DW9 having shared weapon types is justified.

    greater workload of creating open world from scratch
    new gameplay foundation
    new graphics,
    new engine especially made for PS4,
    having to remake assets,
    over 90 playable characters,
    brand new reformed combat system, new state combo system that can change depending on the enemy current condition/action
    aim to make the characters a little more realistic = less ridiculous weapons = less types of weapons. fans of Record of the Three Kingdoms wouldn't have a problem with it. in that period, most generals/officers used just a standard sword/spear/bow anyways. and even those that wield a spear/bow commonly can have a sword as backup.

    it's really asking too much expecting unique weapon per character. even a single player game requires testing and balancing
    . balancing and providing enough content, movesets (that are adapted to the state combo system) and upgrades for 90+ types of weapons would be a nightmare.

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    So early 2018 it is...........
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  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 1,958
    Xiahou Dun's Musou looks tame. And full of invisible hitboxes. I didn't really like it.
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  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 1,958
    affinity wrote: »
    hit boxes are invisible....

    ... You do realize that was a metaphor, right?

    In DW8, his Musou actually had the giant blue ripple things, so you had an idea of where you could hit with it. Now it's just the animation with barely noticeable effects, which can be troublesome in more chaotic situations.

    So basically, you can't really know where you're hitting unless you memorized the range beforehand. And you don't even have a training mode or something like that. Therefore "Invisible hitboxes".
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited September 21

    TGS event revealed Guo Jia (Bo/Staff), Zhou Tai (Curved Sword), Guan Yinping (Wolf Teeth Mace), and Sima Yi (War Fan)............
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  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 1,958
    Hey, Zhou Tai wasn't nerfed!

    ...I-I mean, had his weapon changed!


    I don't know what's that thing Yinping's carrying, but I want to whack people with it.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited September 21
    It's basically the same weapon Xiahou Dun had in the DW6 series...........and what Pang De has in DW8 series.

    So it's 50/50 Yinping will share that weapon with Pang De in DW9.

    I find it kind of odd that KT didn't debut a brand new playable character during their TGS presentation.



    I actually like this.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    That's that in regards to movesets............most aren't happy.
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    Some off screen DW9 gameplay..............
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    Cao Xiu...........Cao Cao's nephew is playable.

    Xun Yu get throwing knives

    Zhu Ran gets Bo.
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  • xEGAxBeastkingxxEGAxBeastkingx Sorry about yo damn luck Joined: Posts: 2,596
    Cao Xiu? Dude has one memorable battle and he gets straight rekt in it. They couldn't find someone better?
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    Fire Emblem Musou opening......
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited September 28
    http://gematsu.com/2017/09/dynasty-warriors-9-details-cao-xiu-xun-yu-zhu-ran-jiang-wei-yueying-wen-yang-zhuge-dan-open-world

    New info on the latest character reveals..............
    Cao Xiu with the fan sword
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    Yueying now has the Pike
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    Xun Yu now has the throwing knives
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    Zhu Ran now has the Bo
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    Jiang Wei retains his Dual Trident
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    Zhuge Dan now gets the War Fan
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    Wen Yang now has the "Longtou Dazhadao"
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    If Wen Yang has been compared to Zhao Yun..........why not give him the Spear?
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  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,842
    DW9 is shaping up to be the most mature, immersive and realistic mainline musou game ever!! (well outside the latest Empires games)

    http://gematsu.com/2017/09/dynasty-warriors-9-details-cao-xiu-xun-yu-zhu-ran-jiang-wei-yueying-wen-yang-zhuge-dan-open-

    ◆ Open World

    Freely Explore the Land of China: A New Experience of Roaming Around an Expansive Field

    By exploring the expansive field, players can enjoy a variety of elements that can only be experienced in an open world game such as sudden small scale battles between forces; obtaining materials through hunting and fishing; encountering various animals; and discovering famous landmarks of China.

    Visiting cities and villages located throughout the field will allow for buying and / or selling weapons and items, as well as obtaining useful information from villagers.

    Players can freely roam throughout China, enjoying various encounters and scenery while proceeding through the game.

    —By hunting certain animals encountered, players can obtain materials for accessories that will help strengthen the player officer

    At times dangerous carnivorous beasts are encountered. Though they are formidable beasts, defeat them to obtain materials for accessories.

    Fishing along the rivers can provide materials such as food.

    Famous structures such as the Great Wall of China can be found.

    Along the way are villages in need of help.

    When “waymarks” situated on the field are touched, they will show the location of landmarks in the surrounding area.

    Cities and Villages

    Horses can be purchased at stables. Players will want to find the right steed to travel effectively across far distances.

    Ancient money found on the fields can be exchanged for valuable items at the Coin Collector.

    At the Blacksmith, weapons can be bought and sold, and weapons and items can be created here using obtained materials. The material requirements are written on scrolls, which can be earned as rewards from missions.

    A chance to meet famous officers in informal clothes!?

    Famous officers may appear in cities and villages dressed in informal clothes, showing different sides of these officers separate from their common battlefield wear, as well as the chance for unique conversations.

    Each famous officer will have an informal outfit, so seek out each officer by visiting cities and villages on a regular basis!

    and its great the weapon choices for the characters are closer to realism categories instead of Bleach shikai style.

    Dynasty Warriors 9 really is raising the standards for the series in a lot of aspects!! now if only the whiny shallow fanbase grew up instead of calling the characters "clones". Soldiers and warriors use standard weapons, instead of trying to be some special snowflake with a weapon and moveset only he/she has. So it's better for more weapons and martial arts disciplines to be shared.
  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 1,958
    I can understand the shared weapons, even though some choices are as bizarre as JoJo, but moveset clones are just lame.
    It wouldn't hurt to have some different normals as a sign of individuality.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    DW9 update..........
    Lu Meng keeps his polearm
    tumblr_oy0z84BCs41u3s4jao1_1280.jpg

    Xu Shu now has the same sword as Cao Cao
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    Jia Xu keeps his chain and sickle
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    Cao Ren now has the flail again
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  • VoltVolt The Ultra Plastic Warrior Joined: Posts: 1,958
    Hard to tell if it's Clone Warriors or Nerfed Warriors.

    The shield wasn't that out of place, come on! They just changed it because it was pretty busted!!!
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  • xEGAxBeastkingxxEGAxBeastkingx Sorry about yo damn luck Joined: Posts: 2,596
    Speaking of shields why has TK never made a character with an Axe & Shield weapon? We've had Sword & Shield and Mace & Shield but never Axe & Shield. That would've been awesome.
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  • flighflighflugitflighflighflugit Joined: Posts: 1,556
    Where's all of the good fire emblem characters
  • LarsMastersLarsMasters Joined: Posts: 127
    edited October 22
    http://www.siliconera.com/2017/10/19/australian-eshop-listing-reveals-fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters/

    DLC Characters besides former NPCs Owain, Navarre, Oboro & Niles confirmed, namely from Shadow Dragon, Fates & Awakening. Fun fact, most of us were informed that Azura wasn’t included on base roster. Seems too many DLC dancer-based female warriors besides Azura like Tharja, Olivia & Linde there, & Minerva is the exception from this list, as she seems to be a bold female warrior like Oboro.

    If only Path of Radiance, & other Gaiden/Echoes & Blazing Blade characters are part of DLCs following Lyndis & Celica. On my opinion about the reasons for Radiance & Blade besides Lyn’s playability, is also because commonly Shadow Dragon’s main role in the main storyline, meaning Eliwood may take place his son Roy instead.
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    To be honest...............I'm more miffed about Xu Shu losing his hood than his unique weapon.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,624 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited October 31
    Not sure why KT would put Xin Xianying in the Wei roster instead of the Jin roster..........her notable exploits happen after Cao Cao/Early Jin.
    In 217, after Cao Cao designated his eldest surviving son Cao Pi as the heir-apparent, Xin Pi told Xin Xianying about Cao Pi's delight upon hearing the news. Xin Xianying, however, remarked that it did not bode well for Cao Pi's future if he was happy about shouldering such a sad and heavy responsibility when his father died.[1]

    In 234, during the standoff between the forces of Wei and Shu at the Battle of Wuzhang Plains, the Shu commander Zhuge Liang sent his Wei counterpart Sima Yi a woman's dress with the aim of taunting him and stirring up his anger. When Sima Yi wrote to the Wei emperor Cao Rui, requesting for permission to lead his troops to engage the enemy, Xin Pi shared this piece of news with Xin Xianying. She replied in a serious tone, "The army determines the fate of the country, nobody can afford to joke over that. Fighting the enemy because of anger often leads to unexpected losses, it is something we should avoid." Xin Pi thanked his daughter and advised Cao Rui to order Sima Yi to ignore the taunts and focus on holding his position while waiting for an opportunity to strike. Zhuge Liang died of illness in the following month and the Shu forces retreated.

    Xin Xianying often advised her nephew, Yang Hu, to distance himself from Zhong Hui, a prominent Wei general, because she thought that he was too ambitious. Indeed, Zhong Hui started a rebellion against Wei in 264 after helping Wei conquer Shu in the previous year.
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    edited November 1
    With confirmation that there will be scenarios for Wei with Cao Pi as Emporer of Wei...........I can see why KT would leave Xin Xianying in the Wei roster.
    Xin Xianying with the Polearm.
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    Taishi Ci and Xu Huang keep the Iron Rods and Great Axe respectively.
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    Pang Tong retains the Shadow Fan while Liu Shan gets back the Rapier...........and Chen Gong now has the Chain and Sickle
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    About time.........
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    The finals poll is finally here............
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    Lu Bu THE BEAST in the West................
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    Of course Lu Bu wins.
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