MadCatZ PS3 TE FightStick: PC - Xp- vista- win7 32-64bit (read 1st post)

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  • pwntGGpwntGG Joined: Posts: 3
    Hi friends,

    Purchased the PS3 version not knowing the problems that it had with PC and now I am battling with it. I have a MSI Z87-G45 which I thought it would work on just fine however it only reads as Game Controller 8838 and no button inputs work.

    After researching about the VIA chipset and it working with that I ordered this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007X26S8Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Installed the VIA drivers and set it up however my stick still reads as Game Controller 8838.

    If I go into the driver and find one myself that is on my computer I don't have the option to pick the xbox360 controller and it doesnt registered on motionjoy either.

    Any input would be great.
    Thanks!
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,415
    I feel the better solution would be to replace the PCB inside the PS3 Mad Catz TE with a more compatible PCB.

    The ID Game Controller 8838 will not change, what supposed to change is if the controller works or not.
    I don't have the option to pick the xbox360 controller
    But it isn't a Xbox 360 controller, it be a Generic PnP HID game controller or something to that effect

    Did you connect it's internal power connector? It says its optional, but from the comments it looks like it does not work without it. But that does not matter.

    Also USB 3.0 is not backwards compatible with USB 1.1 UHCI devices. You got the wrong card.
    Getting a VIA was never the solution, VIA is just a brand, if you already read the guide you know that you needed a UHCI complaint USB card, and VIA made those (or at least used to).
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • pwntGGpwntGG Joined: Posts: 3
    Do you happen to have a recommendation for the PCB that I should buy for the stick?

    Thanks
  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,865
    Zero Delay or Cthulhu for PC/PS3
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,415
    floob wrote: »
    Checking the manufacturer's website http://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/USB-2/Card/5-Port-USB-20-PCI-Card~PCI420USB
    There is no mention of supporting UHCI which if you read the guide on page one is the protocols you need to run the Mad Catz PS3 TE Round 1 and Round 2 .

    You need to find a UHCI compliant USB PCI card or Replace the PCB inside the PS3 TE.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    Perhaps these would work better?
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sweex-US102-Port-USB-Card/dp/B000X1RPX6
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-Port-USB-Card-Express/dp/B002TQQY12

    I'm a bit concerned about replacing the PCB in the SE and TE I have, I'd prefer not to have to open them up if possible.
  • FR0STBIT3FR0STBIT3 Joined: Posts: 56
    Best solution would be a PCB replacement, did it myself and it works even better with multi console support as well. Adding a USB card will cost you the same or even cheaper for a new solderless PCB.
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    Do you have a recommended (easy to fit!) PCB?
    I have a PS3 SE and TE from madcatz.

    I'm in the UK.
  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,865
    Zero Delay PCB PC/PS3 is cheap on ebay and a lot of people use it, I have no experience with it but a more expensive yet still pretty cheap PCB that I have and been working great for many years is the Cthulhu for PC/PS3.
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    edited May 2015
    Is that this sort of thing?
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zero-Delay-USB-PC-joystick-PCB-board-USB-controls-to-JAMMA-MAME-2PIN-HAPP-Type-/171189192676

    I'm a bit clueless here

    I cant see the Cthulhu one - is it easy(ish) to install?

    Even better would be a UK modder I could post my sticks to!
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    floob wrote: »
    Even better would be a UK modder I could post my sticks to!

    Where are you based?

    But really, the ZD Encoder is ridiculously easy to install. It comes with all the wires needed.. the only thing you may have trouble with is the Home button (which only comes with the PS2 ZD Encoder anyway).
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    Got my Madcatz SFiV SE working in my PC!

    I used a StarTech PCI420USB 5 Port USB 2.0 card
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00008NUZ1

    The manual says the chipset is VIA VT6212L
    This installed with no extra drivers needed on Win7.

    Fantastic! Works with MAME really well.

    Although I am still very much tempted to open it up and swap the PCB!

    @gahrling I'm in Devon, UK.
    Would you mind linking to the product so I can give it a go?
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    floob wrote: »
    @gahrling I'm in Devon, UK.
    Would you mind linking to the product so I can give it a go?


    I'm based in London and Brighton, if you still need someone to mod your sticks then give me a shout.. though it will be much cheaper doing it yourself.

    ZD Encoder link: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZD-NO-DELAY-PC-KEYBOARD-ENOCDER-TO-JOYSTICK-FOR-ARCADE-MAME-SUPPORT-SANWA-PARTS-/261485240800?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3ce1bc21e0

    ZD Encoder (with Home button support): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-ZD-USB-Encoder-PS2-PS3-PC-to-Joystick-for-MAME-Arcade-Fight-Stick-Control-/171017583391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d1713b1f
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    Thanks very much for those links. I'll give them a go.
  • expandingmanexpandingman Joined: Posts: 105
    Try the stick on a USB 3.0 port. I've connected several PS3 sticks to both of my PCs using USB 3.0 and it's always worked.
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    Try the stick on a USB 3.0 port. I've connected several PS3 sticks to both of my PCs using USB 3.0 and it's always worked.

    I tried it on the 4 at the back of the PC, and the 2 at the front/top, no joy unfortunately :(
    This is my mobo
    http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4960#ov
  • floobfloob Joined: Posts: 10
    @gahrling Is that offer of modding still open? I have the ZD encoder, but really dont fancy my chances with it. Obviously I'd pay shipping and your time.
  • obscuraobscura Joined: Posts: 92
    Hey just throwing this out there, this worked for me:

    Bought a PC a few days ago, stick wouldn't work, Shows up as "PC USB Wired Stick 8838" but wouldn't recognize any buttons
    motioninjoy/SCP didn't work, was about to give up and go buy a PCI usb card but then i found this and it worked:

    Download and run this file: http://batcmd.com/windows/8/services/usbuhci/

    for reference:
    Windows 8.1
    SSF4 madcats TE-S (black ryu one)
  • SwazHDSwazHD Rated S for Swaz. Joined: Posts: 30
    obscura wrote: »
    Hey just throwing this out there, this worked for me:

    Bought a PC a few days ago, stick wouldn't work, Shows up as "PC USB Wired Stick 8838" but wouldn't recognize any buttons
    motioninjoy/SCP didn't work, was about to give up and go buy a PCI usb card but then i found this and it worked:

    Download and run this file: http://batcmd.com/windows/8/services/usbuhci/

    for reference:
    Windows 8.1
    SSF4 madcats TE-S (black ryu one)

    fully did not work for me... at all. same shit as before. no buttons registered. mvc3 te.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,415
    obscura wrote: »
    Hey just throwing this out there, this worked for me:

    Bought a PC a few days ago, stick wouldn't work, Shows up as "PC USB Wired Stick 8838" but wouldn't recognize any buttons
    motioninjoy/SCP didn't work, was about to give up and go buy a PCI usb card but then i found this and it worked:

    Download and run this file: http://batcmd.com/windows/8/services/usbuhci/

    for reference:
    Windows 8.1
    SSF4 madcats TE-S (black ryu one)

    Keep in mind you have the Windows 8 version, there also a XP, Vista, Win 7 and Win 10 versions.
    For our other readers you want to chose the version for your OS. This still requires you to have compatible hardware, your mother boards on-board USB encoder (or USB expansion card) has to be UHCI compliant.
    SwazHD wrote: »
    did not work for me... at all. same shit as before. no buttons registered. mvc3 te.
    Because even for the software to work your motherboard/ USB card has to support UHCI protocols. As UHCI is a Intel propitiatory format all AMD mother boards and some Intel boards that don't have a Intel Chipset will nto work. USB hubs will not work with this as the USB hub just relays and boost the signal not change it's protocols.

    It is why if you followed instructions and read the first post in this thread it revels its a hardware issue not a software issue.

    The one guaranteed solution is replace the Mad Catz TE's PCB with a PCB that compatible with your PC and consoles.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • freakhunterfreakhunter Flowchart Breaker Joined: Posts: 20
    I'm having this issue on a laptop, so I can't add a PCI card as recommended. I was wondering if something like [url="http://amzn.com/B00WJ1HONE "]this[/url] would work? It allows a PS3/PS4 fightstick to work on Xbox One, so I'm thinking since Xbox One natively works with PC it would work. Maybe it's a long shot, anyone know?
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,415
    It could work, assuming nothing is wrong with the stick.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • YahnVYahnV Dr. Pepper Man Joined: Posts: 258
    What PCB would be a solution for PS3/PS4/PC compatibility? PS3 support is not a deal breaker.
    Were you saying something YahnV?
    I was trying to read what you said and then Yuri's giant boobies distracted me.

    - Dasrik
  • DubonDubon Joined: Posts: 468
    brook ps3/ps4 board. Has xinput for pc, 40$.
  • YahnVYahnV Dr. Pepper Man Joined: Posts: 258
    Are there any other, possibly cheaper, alternatives?
    Were you saying something YahnV?
    I was trying to read what you said and then Yuri's giant boobies distracted me.

    - Dasrik
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,415
    YahnV wrote: »
    Are there any other, possibly cheaper, alternatives?

    not really unless you find the Hori Fighting Commander 4 for Cheap at some sale somewhere
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • sandman_cnesandman_cne Joined: Posts: 1
    edited August 2016
    i can confirm that installing a PCI USB card witch support EHCI can solve the problem
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 22,415
    i can confirm that installing a PCI USB card witch support EHCI can solve the problem

    Not going to work with every EHCI card. It is not EHCI support you need, it needs UHCI support.
    You just happen to win the lottery here with UHCI support with your PCI card.

    Also only older Mad Catz TE sticks and the Mad Catz SE stick has this issue.
    Newer Mad Catz Sticks don't work with UHCI protocols, which is great as almost no one supports this anymore.
    "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
  • setrosetro Joined: Posts: 3
    edited October 2016
    Hi Guys,
    Which PCB would you guys recommend to replace a PS3 Fightstick TE 'S' edition?

    I've seen people recommending the Cthulhu PS3/PC one, but I can't seem to find any place to buy it anymore.
    Maybe it's just outdated?

    I just want to use it on my PC on Steam
    Thx in advance!
  • DawphDawph Joined: Posts: 1
    Hi Guys.

    So i've made the plunge and purchased a fight stick at a good price.

    I never really used one before and now know i have a te round 2 for ps3. So i'm having compatibility issues.
    After reading through these forums it appears that a PCB replacement is the best way to go, of which i feel i am capable, as i can solder, but haven't really had any experience with fight sticks.

    I cannot seem to find many PCB's as the only brand around at the minute is brook.
    I cannot seem to find a local distributor and looks like i need to order from the US (i am based in australia).

    Before i spend over 120 AUD on a board for a fight stick, is there anything else i can do?
    I have considered ripping out an xbox 360 controller and directly soldering onto the pcb of that.

    Ideas? HEEELP!!

  • StrtFghtrMstrStrtFghtrMstr SRnk1VaBeachAlphaTeam Joined: Posts: 518 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    What are you trying to use
    Dawph wrote: »
    Hi Guys.

    So i've made the plunge and purchased a fight stick at a good price.

    I never really used one before and now know i have a te round 2 for ps3. So i'm having compatibility issues.
    After reading through these forums it appears that a PCB replacement is the best way to go, of which i feel i am capable, as i can solder, but haven't really had any experience with fight sticks.

    I cannot seem to find many PCB's as the only brand around at the minute is brook.
    I cannot seem to find a local distributor and looks like i need to order from the US (i am based in australia).

    Before i spend over 120 AUD on a board for a fight stick, is there anything else i can do?
    I have considered ripping out an xbox 360 controller and directly soldering onto the pcb of that.

    Ideas? HEEELP!!

    What are you trying to use the stick on?
    PC:What OS?
    PS4?
    360/XB1?
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  • TortaTorta A piece of Cake Joined: Posts: 707
    IF you are just interested in PC and PS4, you should try using a brook PS3 PS4 Fighting board (https://www.focusattack.com/brook-ps3-ps4-fight-board-pcba/)

    if you need more that tha, you should consider a UFB (universal fighting board)
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  • EdRooneyEdRooney Joined: Posts: 1
    Ok so i'm sure that this is a very old topic with many people giving input but i just thought id give some of my own(better late than never i suppose). I've had the same issue with trying to get my old PS3 Madcatz fight stick TE to work with my PC (show up in devices menu but buttons don't register) so I looked around and found this internal USB card from insignia at my local big box store and thought id try it out after reading about the USB 1.1 incompatibility with some PC motherboards and I'm happy to say that at least in my case this card work. I'm posting here because i couldn't find any information anywhere else and hope fully this will help someone else.

    Here is a link to the card

    https://www.insigniaproducts.com/pdp/NS-PCCUP53/5621006
  • StrtFghtrMstrStrtFghtrMstr SRnk1VaBeachAlphaTeam Joined: Posts: 518 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    EdRooney wrote: »
    Ok so i'm sure that this is a very old topic with many people giving input but i just thought id give some of my own(better late than never i suppose). I've had the same issue with trying to get my old PS3 Madcatz fight stick TE to work with my PC (show up in devices menu but buttons don't register) so I looked around and found this internal USB card from insignia at my local big box store and thought id try it out after reading about the USB 1.1 incompatibility with some PC motherboards and I'm happy to say that at least in my case this card work. I'm posting here because i couldn't find any information anywhere else and hope fully this will help someone else.

    Here is a link to the card

    https://www.insigniaproducts.com/pdp/NS-PCCUP53/5621006

    As an alternative and potentially cheaper but with more labor, you could dual mod that stick as well or with less labor use a Brook adapter.
    Just a veteran player enjoying competitive SFV & the CPT
    -Kaillera veteran (GodWeapon Anti3d)
    -SFA3 Replay Tournament Champion (21-0)
    -Sticks & Setups currently owned
    -Namco w/HFC/SilentKuros/SilentHayabusa-Zippys
    -Namco stock
    -VLX 360 w/JLF+Silent Zippy&uSW mod/OBS-MX Reds+Silent O-Rings/Qanba/Seimetsu/PCBs360VX+HFC4, Jansen x5 19MM Turbo Panel
    -VLX 360 Stock
    -TE-S Six-Axis PCB w/ShinJN adapter
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