THE SF4 BEGINNERS Thread! NEW? POST HERE FIRST!

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  • EvilagramEvilagram Joined: Posts: 9
    I can power shield in super smash bros more consistently than this (2 frame timer).

    I've been trying cammy's target combos in trial mode, super street fighter 4. levels 6-9. At exactly what point should I press the next button? I've tried pressing it when the attack connects, and I've tried pressing it when the attack ends, and before the hit connects, but none of them seem to work consistently. I just don't know when to push the button.

    Thank you for your suggestions, I will investigate further. if you know anything else that might help, please post it.
  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    I dont have AE, and in Super trial 6 is her ultra, so I doubt that's what you mean. Plus, Cammy doesn't have any target combos (that I know of; not a big SF4 player). In Super, trial 7 is close.MP, crouch.MK, which is a link, as are the next two after it, so I bet you mean links, and not chains or target combos.

    For links, you have to press (not 'have pressed', nor 'release', it must be a press) the button for the second part as absolutely soon as possible AFTER the first move has completely finished; when your character has returned to neutral after the move's recovery. The timing is of course tight, but that early in the trials, I do not thing any of them would be tighter than 2 frames, with most of them being 3 frames. You can mash if you want, but it's much better to get the timing, and the timing will always be the same.

    The nice thing is that you can use what happens on the screen to determine how to adjust your timing, as long as you're practicing hitting the second button only once; if the second move doesn't come out at all, you pressed it too early and need to delay a bit. If the move comes out but is blocked/doesn't combo, then you pressed the button too late and need to press it earlier.
  • EvilagramEvilagram Joined: Posts: 9
    Okay, that makes a LOT MORE SENSE. Thank you. I did not know that the ones presented in trial mode were links. There's no description, and I really couldn't find any type of description anywhere else. I am playing SSF4 on the PS3, not arcade edition. I mentioned button mashing specifically because it is a bad thing. I do not want to button mash into linked combos, I want to have some sort of idea what the hell is going on.

    I made a mistake when I said trial 6. Sorry. Counting error.

    Thanks very much for the advice.
  • EvilagramEvilagram Joined: Posts: 9
    Alright, after a bit of practice, it works perfectly. I even got it on my first try once. I'll keep practicing, thanks a lot.
  • J.LeeJ.Lee Joined: Posts: 15
    just curious but does anyone still play vanilla on psn even though ae is out?..im getting internet next month so I was just wonder do ppl still play vanilla..pm me if you want to play against me next month(training or causals)...THANKS
  • OzPsych0OzPsych0 Joined: Posts: 8
    Hello Shoryuken! I've been playing SSFIV for a while now and I have recently acquired AE, I've been following the forums ever since I started playing and I have learned quite a bit. I really want to improve my game so i thought i would register and let all of you be the judge. My main character is Cody by the way.

    And seeing as though this is the "newbie area" I thought i should ask this really stupid sounding question: Where in the game is the best place to train, in endless battle or in the training room itself ?
  • KoonetzKoonetz Joined: Posts: 54
    Hello everybody! so I finally bought the Arcade edition after watching a casual tourney between some people, fell in love with how the game flows when played properly and I said to myself "well, why not?". I decided to main Juri and I really don't know what to do, or what are things I should improve or anything actually. I was told that Juri isn't very noob friendly, would you recommend changing character until I get better mechanics? or should I stick with her?

    I think that I can get the basics down fairly quick, this isn't my first fighting game (Played and still play Killer Instinct Gold and I'm also really good at Soul Calibur...but those two are so different to SF, so yeah).
    I already browsed most of the forum and it's great, full of fighting game knowledge...and I guess that's about it

    Cheers!
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  • xroflmaowtfxxroflmaowtfx AKA Tai Joined: Posts: 68
    finally showed up to the local arcade to play a few games with SRK people before leaving

    it was pretty cool; i plan on coming back in the future.
  • NephthyzNephthyz Joined: Posts: 6
    So I just started playing and this is my first fighting game. I have touched them in the past but never actually sat down and played them or even purchased one. I come from playing many FPS games so this is a whole different world to me. I decided I wanted a change of pace so I picked up SSF4AE at the gamestop for 30 bucks and used an Amazon giftcard to purchase an arcade stick.

    After fooling around doing trials with all the characters and even actually completing one (Dudley) and about 15 hours play time logged. I thought I would see how online play was. Now this I was shocked. I created a match with the lobby name 1,000 PP or lower and the first guy i play against in ranked in the top 300. So of course I get murderlized (didn't get perfected though!). So I kick him out thinking it was just a fluke maybe someone will join me of the same skill rank... Well, 30 games later I've yet to win a single match. I have yet to play someone of equal or just above my level. I feel like if your a beginner you are just going to stay that way. I can't learn to play when I'm getting crushed so insanely hard. It's like a 7th grade basketball team vs. the Lakers and the Lakers are not taking it easy in the least bit.

    So what am I to do to actually get better at this game? I realize this games been out for a bit and I'm already behind but how am I supposed to play catch up now? I've read the forums I know the lingo and all that Jazz but how do I practice that when I jump into a game and some dude is pulling of 15 hit combos does a dance does a 12 hit combo FADC into a super mega ultra melt my face off gameover?
  • GomikawaGomikawa Joined: Posts: 63
    Is it worth buying street fighter now or is it better if I just wait for SFxTekken?
  • NephthyzNephthyz Joined: Posts: 6
    If you enjoy getting slaughtered get ssf4. If your new to fighting games I wouldnt recommend buying ssf4. You will be playing catch up and everyone is two years ahead. Im 28 hours in 0 and 52 online. For some reason im still playing. Its not casual friendly.

    wait for sfxt so you might stand a chance
  • xXisukaXxxXisukaXx Can someone delete this account? Joined: Posts: 53
    What should I be doing with Makoto? I feel that im tossing too many meaty attacks to the point where I'm a book practicably.
  • SneakMindSneakMind Member Joined: Posts: 29
    Is it worth buying street fighter now or is it better if I just wait for SFxTekken?
    If you enjoy getting slaughtered get ssf4. If your new to fighting games I wouldnt recommend buying ssf4. You will be playing catch up and everyone is two years ahead. Im 28 hours in 0 and 52 online. For some reason im still playing. Its not casual friendly.

    wait for sfxt so you might stand a chance
    I respectfully disagree :P
    In my experience, when you're getting into this genre you better know what you're getting into. Fighting games have a big learning curve. Period. If you're looking for ways to get around that curve, these games aren't for you... You're basically losing out on the biggest appeal of the genre which is its competitiveness.
    Also, while this game has a huge learning curve that is really hard to get over, there are still players just like you that are trying to learn. Just look at this thread, there's a lot of beginners. Don't just think that everyone has a huge advantage over you and there's no way you'll do well, that's not true.
  • GomikawaGomikawa Joined: Posts: 63
    You guys think the online population of ssf4 will drop dramatically after SFxTekken comes out?
  • graymanagraymana Joined: Posts: 3
    Hi there. There's a problem I have playing SF4 where if i try a crossup on my opponents wake-up and wiff, some people seem to always be able to grab me immediately. Is this just them grabbing me when i land in reaction to the whiff? Or are they spamming throw tech? Or is it something else? If I could know the answer to this it would probably help my game play a whole lot. Obviously I shouldn't be whiffing jump ins on accident, but when I do it just seems to frustrate me that I can't react quick enough to the throw they do. Thanks in advance.
  • MostBrownPlayerMostBrownPlayer Beginner Joined: Posts: 1
    Hello, I'm new to the forums and am searching around and trying to get every tip I can get my hands on. My first fighter was SSFII for the SNES, which I still have. I recently got SSFIV:AE and I have a somewhat important question. I was wondering, as a beginner actually playing and getting into a fighter, where should I start? I have already gone through some trials, and I'm almost finished Ibuki's trials (I'm on the last two) but I don't know where to start everything.

    What should I do first trials, training, learning more about the game, or other stuff?I already know most of the basics, such as chaining, linking, meter management, use of focus attacks, FADC (Not the execution of it yet), etc...
  • swagdaddyswagdaddy Joined: Posts: 5
    this site is pretty intimidating -__-
  • tetsu1984tetsu1984 Joined: Posts: 132
    Please anyone help me the timing for the crouch tech throw when blocking a blockstring. When blocking, blockstring I see a blue circle appear, may I use it as a time to press down + back + throw ? When should I press the crouch tech throw ?
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT METRO CITY NINJUTSU Joined: Posts: 736
    I'm new to SRK, but not to fighting games as I have been battling since SF2's inception.
    I am having mad trouble with Ryu's Hard trial #2. I know about buffering, have watched EVERY TbirdSF4 tutorial video and know the shortcuts, but I just cannot get the cr.HP to connect after the F+HP. I can do the FADC to F+HP and the cr.HP ->DP->Shinkuu Hadoken, but cannot get them to connect together.
    I am using a Hori UMvC3 stick, and I am still getting used to its uber-responsiveness, but I should have gotten this done by now.

    Also, are the hard trial combos actually useful in matches?

    My goal is to obtain the icons and go online to obtain achievements and then move on to SSFIV:AE.
    Disciplines: Bushin-Ryu-Ninpo, Street Fighting, Demonology, IGA Ninjitsu, Bushido, Alchemy, English Boxing, Wing Chun, Shaolin Gung Fu, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Igyo Tenshin-no-Jutsu, SFCQC, Swordplay, Garou Ryū MMA, Kusanagi Ryū Kobujutsu, Yagami M.Arts, Gun Kata...
    “There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” 武神

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  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    I'm new to SRK, but not to fighting games as I have been battling since SF2's inception.
    I am having mad trouble with Ryu's Hard trial #2. I know about buffering, have watched EVERY TbirdSF4 tutorial video and know the shortcuts, but I just cannot get the cr.HP to connect after the F+HP. I can do the FADC to F+HP and the cr.HP ->DP->Shinkuu Hadoken, but cannot get them to connect together.
    I am using a Hori UMvC3 stick, and I am still getting used to its uber-responsiveness, but I should have gotten this done by now.

    Also, are the hard trial combos actually useful in matches?
    My goal is to obtain the icons and go online to obtain achievements and then move on to SSFIV:AE.
    http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-sf4-beginners-thread-new-post-here-first.56816/page-43#post-5627848
    The HP after the F+HP is a link. Please read that post linked and practice, since it'll tell you what you're doing wrong based on what happens.
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT METRO CITY NINJUTSU Joined: Posts: 736
    Thanks Toodles! I finally did the trial, but I doubt I could do it over. I do realize the importance of linked combos though.
    The dang crHP wasn't coming out. I could link the crHP on it's own, but it was difficult getting it to come out before the Shoryuken-> Super, even with the shortcuts.
    I got inspired and even finished Ryu's and Akuma's trials. Now I have to get used to my new button config and finger set up for Ken's trials.
    My start button is too close to the far right buttons, so I changed my 3xP + 3xK to the far left.
    I see that I may change my button config a few times to see what exactly works across the board.
    Disciplines: Bushin-Ryu-Ninpo, Street Fighting, Demonology, IGA Ninjitsu, Bushido, Alchemy, English Boxing, Wing Chun, Shaolin Gung Fu, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Igyo Tenshin-no-Jutsu, SFCQC, Swordplay, Garou Ryū MMA, Kusanagi Ryū Kobujutsu, Yagami M.Arts, Gun Kata...
    “There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” 武神

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  • GomikawaGomikawa Joined: Posts: 63
    I'm using ryu as a starting character and I was wondering what am I suppose to learn from this character.
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT METRO CITY NINJUTSU Joined: Posts: 736
    So many fighting games...
    Should I even bother with trying to obtain the achievements for SFIV? I love the game, (except for the dang r&b song at the menu screen), but with SFxT, UMvC3, MK and SSFIV, I'm wondering if it's worth fighting through the lag fests of SFIV online.
    Disciplines: Bushin-Ryu-Ninpo, Street Fighting, Demonology, IGA Ninjitsu, Bushido, Alchemy, English Boxing, Wing Chun, Shaolin Gung Fu, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Igyo Tenshin-no-Jutsu, SFCQC, Swordplay, Garou Ryū MMA, Kusanagi Ryū Kobujutsu, Yagami M.Arts, Gun Kata...
    “There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” 武神

    RIN-PYOU-TOU-SHA-KAI-JIN-RETSU-ZAI-ZEN
  • anubhav91anubhav91 Joined: Posts: 9
    please anyone help me how to use two joysticks in sf4 vanilla for 2 players
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT METRO CITY NINJUTSU Joined: Posts: 736
    please anyone help me how to use two joysticks in sf4 vanilla for 2 players

    Hmm, can you clarify what you mean by using the joysticks? Are you trying to plug them in, or seeking to learn how to play with them?
    Disciplines: Bushin-Ryu-Ninpo, Street Fighting, Demonology, IGA Ninjitsu, Bushido, Alchemy, English Boxing, Wing Chun, Shaolin Gung Fu, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Igyo Tenshin-no-Jutsu, SFCQC, Swordplay, Garou Ryū MMA, Kusanagi Ryū Kobujutsu, Yagami M.Arts, Gun Kata...
    “There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” 武神

    RIN-PYOU-TOU-SHA-KAI-JIN-RETSU-ZAI-ZEN
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT METRO CITY NINJUTSU Joined: Posts: 736
    I was playing online the other day and this guy used El Fuerte and did the Habanero Dash infinite on me. HE claims there are no infinites because of damage scaling. MY friend gave me a copy of the obviously crappy SFIV Prima guide for free, and in there it mentions using this exact infinite as the basis for El Fuerte's game.
    What's the community perspective on this?
    From what I've gathered infinites are banned from tournaments.
    I won't post the guy's name, as that seems like a chumpy move. I don't care about losing online, nor online rankings, I know some people will cheat onliine, I'm just wondering what the truth is about infinites in this version.
    Disciplines: Bushin-Ryu-Ninpo, Street Fighting, Demonology, IGA Ninjitsu, Bushido, Alchemy, English Boxing, Wing Chun, Shaolin Gung Fu, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Igyo Tenshin-no-Jutsu, SFCQC, Swordplay, Garou Ryū MMA, Kusanagi Ryū Kobujutsu, Yagami M.Arts, Gun Kata...
    “There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” 武神

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  • RekkasRekkas Joined: Posts: 171
    Is Cody considered a fireball character?
  • J-MoneyJ-Money Multi Mystery-game Master Medalist Joined: Posts: 1,051
    The basic grouping of characters are:

    Shoto: ryu ken sagat
    charge: balrog bison blanka
    grappler: hakan gief thawk

    cody is a non-traditional character so like adon and a few others. no he is not.
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  • RekkasRekkas Joined: Posts: 171
    Okay thanks
  • MarkColtonMarkColton Zero Income Joined: Posts: 39
    Hi I just started learning how to play ssiv:ae a few months ago with ryu as my starting character and have been hard at work at trying to learn each and every thing with ryu and I can't tell you how many times i've been bodied online.lol and the learning curve for this game is just overwhelming @_@
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  • DestroyShadalooDestroyShadaloo Joined: Posts: 2
    Just another person having difficulty connecting Ryu's F.HP into c.HP in Hard Trial 2 (SFIV)

    I'm playing on a PS3 and using an arcade stick. Practiced for about 3 hours last night to get down the timing and I almost nailed it, now when I start doing the combo I get it to land every 10 tries or so except when I do the shoryuken it just keeps going and doesn't combo into the shinkuu-hadouken, which I'm assuming I need to cancel into.

    I'm aware that the c.HP needs to land right about the time the second punch of the Solar Plexus hits and I'm holding diagonal-down-forward when executing it. Any tips?

    P.S. This is just extra, but there are lot of broken links in the new user topics, especially to things I thought could potentially help improve my game. Someone needs to fix that.
  • Warring TriadWarring Triad Pensive, Nervous Theorist Joined: Posts: 216
    If by new, yo mean never, played, yes, I am new. I actually played Vanilla once. I'm considering getting into it, but I dunno who to main. If I am to believe Sanford, I should pick Cammy/Akuma, amirite?
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  • DjoveDjove Joined: Posts: 27
    Whats up brethren?
    let it be known that I am here because I seek to teach my brother akuma a lesson.
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