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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    First I just wanna say thanks for the supportive comments, you guys have motivated me to step it up and stay on track! I've got a big update coming with pics later today so check back and let me know what you think.

    I just got some Fanta's in the mail.

    Despite what I thought I read about Happ and Korean joysticks being interchangeable, it doesn't seem that way. The Fanta joysticks I got (Myoungshin) all have holes that are in a square of dimension 5cm x7.25cm. The Happ P360 I'm looking at has a dimension of 6.5 by 7.5.

    If you know a way to get these 2 designs + the JLF-P1 (used for Sanwa sticks) and the Seimitsu SS plate (used for the Seimitsu sticks, fitting close to the Sanwa), I'd be very interested to see the hole/mounting design.

    I've posted in other threads asking for mounting area dimensions (holes and depth for mounting plate, also depth for the stick from the top plate), but there aren't any replies.

    Yeah I'd really like to see that too ;)
    But seriously if I can get my hands on some of those sticks or at least get the exact measurements I'm sure I can work something out. Yeah mounting height is a big factor too and something I need to take into account for the different plates but I think I can work that out since I'm actually mounting the stick to a metal plate that can me adjusted (well thats the plan anyway) it's about 2mm thick and the plexi is about 3.5mm. The only stick that I really cant adjust the height of would be the Happ sticks given the depth of the box but I play on my Happ LE sticks mounted to metal on my Cabinet and have no problems. I don't know the depth of the Fanta sticks but I imagine it's about the same as the Happ's just from what I've seen, but the actual stick looks shorter (can anyone confirm this?)
    I'll see if I can make an order for the (Myoungshin) sticks since they seem to be the most talked about.

    BTW thanks for the dimensions I'll add them to my sketchup model

    I've used fanta at my local arcade and they are pretty solid. Circle gate and bat top but not stiff at all.

    Yeah TheGreench was saying the same thing. I guess they where on a SF4 cab at video94 for a little while. Thanks for the input
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  • MnoMno 哈哈哈 Joined: Posts: 2,322
    I will pay any amount to be a part of this sex train to stickville.
    i hate video games.
  • AKAK Joined: Posts: 356
    Looking at Laugh's thread about Korean sticks, there's a few problems (which is why I can see how Happ, Korean, and Sanwa (and even Seimitsu) are not that interchangeable).

    Happ joysticks use a 1.125 inch hole (about 28.5mm) while Korean sticks use a 35mm hole (it's the size of the black circle that the joystick sits on). Sanwa and Seimitsu use 30mm (edit: it's actually 24mm)

    The dimensions of the holes are different between Happ and Korean, as I mentioned in the previous post. I don't have the Sanwa JLF-p1 or Seimitsu "ss" plate yet to compare, but they may also have a different dimension for the holes than the Happ and Korean.

    Korean and Happ are common in that they need 20mm (or about 3/4") from the mounting plate to the top panel of your joystick, but Sanwa JLF's need about half that at 9mm. Seimitsu, I don't even know yet with the 'SS' plate and all.

    The clearance from the bottom of the mounting plate to the bottom of the joystick is also different amongst all sticks, but it's safe to say if you can fit the Happ (about 46mm), you can fit the rest.

    I'll probably have more info once I get my parts from Akihabara.
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    ^^ You rock dude thanks! I actually saw that too I'll have to adjust the mounting plate with a 35mm hole to fit the Koren sticks. I still need to do some more research cause with all these diffrent mounting plate hole patterns, my poor little plate will look like a piece of swiss cheese. I'm pretty sure I can get the most popular plates or at lease the T plates to all work together but we'll see.
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  • AKAK Joined: Posts: 356
    Sanwa and Seimitsu dimensions are conveniently here:

    http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/mounting_layering.html

    There's some ambiguity regarding the height of the stick compared to the panel, mostly because there are different shaft lengths. In that case, 9mm I mentioned above may not be correct.

    Anyway, you'll need some really crafty engineering if you want to fit all of these parts into your shell. And we didn't even talk about buttons yet.
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Oh I've already got that one bookmarked but thanks! Stick height that's somewhat a matter of preference and can be adjusted. As for buttons that's another story but I think most people will be happy with Sanwa\Seimitsu 30mm or the standard Happ buttons as they actually fit in the same hole pretty good I have no idea about the Koren buttons yet. I'm trying to find a way to get the snap in buttons to work with this case and I have a few ideas but I need to get some to test it out. Looks like need to do some more shopping anybody know where I can still get some Japanese parts???
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  • supreme jdsupreme jd jfree Joined: Posts: 1,809
    i'm looking forward to seeing the final result. this looks real good.
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    I will pay any amount to be a part of this sex train to stickville.

    ROFL - All aboard aah hahahaha hahahah!!! (intro crazy train)
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  • AKAK Joined: Posts: 356
    Oh I've already got that one bookmarked but thanks! Stick height that's somewhat a matter of preference and can be adjusted. As for buttons that's another story but I think most people will be happy with Sanwa\Seimitsu 30mm or the standard Happ buttons as they actually fit in the same hole pretty good I have no idea about the Koren buttons yet. I'm trying to find a way to get the snap in buttons to work with this case and I have a few ideas but I need to get some to test it out. Looks like need to do some more shopping anybody know where I can still get some Japanese parts???

    Korean Crown standard buttons use a 28mm hole with a 35mm nut diameter, while the smaller Korean Crown buttons use a 24mm hole with a 28mm nut diameter.

    More info available in Paik's thread here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=169501

    As for parts, try here:

    http://www.arcadeshop.de

    They seem to still have stock, although it's a 1-2 week wait period (which is better than nothing).
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  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    The first and second buttons on your template seem a little far apart. Love the cases though, they look great.
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    So this was a pretty busy weekend for me and I 'm exhausted but it feels really good to have another project to work on. :looney::sweat::wgrin:

    Anyway I took most of the day Saturday to do a little shopping around and to visit a few of the local metal and wood shops! It was actually really cool I just wish I would have taken more pics but my camera was acting up. I did however get some nice shots of the hardwoods available and I put them up on my Flickr account so if anyone wants to brows through them be my guest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/56701743@N00/sets/72157615327377201/

    So I picked up some Poplar 11'x7"x1" aka a 5/4 plank and some 3/4" Ultralight MDF (got it for 5 bucks) ended up only spending about 20 buck cause the wood was damaged. (Nothing I couldn't just cut off or work around) Oh and they even cut it down so it would fit in 4 runner. Looks pretty good don't you think :D
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    I also went to a few metal shops and found a guy that will cut the Aluminum plates with his Hydrocut Waterjet and it's pretty cheap too. Comes out to be about $2.20 a plate (No pics of the waterjet but I'll get some next time promise)
    I also picked up some Fostner bit's 30mm and 24mm.
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    Now the real work begins so I busted out my schematics and went to work
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    Just making sure everything fits ;)
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    My first attempt at those multi angled corners....
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    needs a few tweaks but overall it turned out pretty good.

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    Damn that looks sweet even if this is the bad one lol (Stupid knot) I should be able to fill that in and paint over it


    Now the only question is can I duplicate it?
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    Yep

    So I got my prototype gluing and the rest (+4)are on standby
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    Yeah that is correct I'm making 5 of these bad boy's and 3 are currently spoken for by me, myself and I =P

    So was playing around with the router and testing some different ways to mount the buttons in the frame ie the Home start and select buttons.
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    let me know what you think. (I know that Happ button is ugly and a little crooked I didn't tighten it up, but it does sit straight when it's in tight)

    This is the next challenge I want to tackle...
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    Now as soon as I get my mounting plate dimensions all figured out I'll get a few cut out and see if I can put it all together and start painting.

    All comments and suggestions are welcome
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  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    You got skills man.

    Would you mind sharing how you make those sweet multi faced angles?
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Yeah I wish I had someone their with me to take pics while I was doing it but basically I just made the long cuts with the table saw then drew the lines I wanted to shave off with a pencil and hit it with the sanding wheel. The key to making this work was in the model I made and I'm not sure I want to give that away just yet ;)

    About the button being a little further out, you are correct they where a little off and I plan to fix that but thanks for reminding me.

    Oh and thanks I'm really glad you like it
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Wow they are looking great so far. Cant wait to see the finished product

    Would definately buy one or two of these bad boys if they went up for sale
  • thirtytwoutsidethirtytwoutside HOW CAN SHE SLAP Joined: Posts: 241
    Now as soon as I get my mounting plate dimensions all figured out I'll get a few cut out and see if I can put it all together and start painting.

    All comments and suggestions are welcome

    That shit looks HOT. Seriously... that is some quality work right there.

    One word of advice, though. Don't know if you have experience or whatever painting on wood, but I would suggest not painting on the actual wood itself (I come from an artist background). I would always use some kind of medium like Gesso or something... looks much cleaner and smoother.
  • RoboKrikitRoboKrikit nuclear Joined: Posts: 1,943
    That shit looks HOT. Seriously... that is some quality work right there.

    One word of advice, though. Don't know if you have experience or whatever painting on wood, but I would suggest not painting on the actual wood itself (I come from an artist background). I would always use some kind of medium like Gesso or something... looks much cleaner and smoother.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_(paint)
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986

    Word. There are no problems painting wood.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Yeah I wish I had someone their with me to take pics while I was doing it but basically I just made the long cuts with the table saw then drew the lines I wanted to shave off with a pencil and hit it with the sanding wheel. The key to making this work was in the model I made and I'm not sure I want to give that away just yet ;)

    Thanks. And I'll be waiting for more info on that model. :)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Tag, you're it!

    Wow these are sexy and amazing. By the way what program did you use to create those 3D models? I'm going to go ahead and guess that its Inventor. Just curious.
  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    WHOO!
    VOLTECH, that is hotness.
    Keep it going.

    You got five going.
    Three are for you, yourself, and VOLTECH.
    Wonder where the other two going. :wonder:

    Man, I live so close to you.
    I want to just come over to check them out. :sad:
    Tag, you're it!

    Wow these are sexy and amazing. By the way what program did you use to create those 3D models? I'm going to go ahead and guess that its Inventor. Just curious.

    Google SketchUp I think is for 3D Model.
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  • tombrokawtombrokaw FUCK Brian Williams Joined: Posts: 639
    damn voltech that's sweet. no wonder you haven't been playing in forever.
  • Shaft AgentShaft Agent https://discord.gg/F4ZmxDu Joined: Posts: 9,272 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    damn, VOLTECH. you beat me. i was working on something similar... well, back to the drawing board... :bluu:
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  • HalvieHalvie Joined: Posts: 801
    Really impressive Voltech. If you end up selling cases I might have to pick one of these up.

    Would getting different hardwoods be an option?
  • inControlinControl (Hit Box) Upa Joined: Posts: 287
    Wow i wish i saw your work prior before i gave up and bought me a HRAP 3 >< yeah i know terrible lol.

    you still arent doing wiring yet?
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    im diggin what I see so far.

    keep it up :)
  • Demix500Demix500 AsthmaAttack Joined: Posts: 210
    looking good... + you're local too :)
  • TheGreatMoleTheGreatMole No Honor Crew Joined: Posts: 173
    Subscribed. I will definitely contact you if I decide to invest in a stick. I hope you won't mind me Giefing you with your own stick lol jp.
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Woot 69 lol had to do it =P

    I just got my metal plate samples, so I'm going down tomorrow to the Hydrocut shop to get my first batch cut out. I got a pack of 2024 and 7075 airplane grade aluminum ranging from .02 to.08 in thickness and they just happen to be the size I plan to use :D I'll have the thin ones cut first just to see if they fit. But I think the thinnest I can go is .05 in this small size any bigger and it would be .08 all the way unless I had a lot of support all along the edges .
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  • DSSDSS Joined: Posts: 169
    nice work,

    thicker i think would be better to reduce vibration from mashing hahaha
  • KenjiXSamuraiKenjiXSamurai Joined: Posts: 19
    Hey Voltech, I'm sure you've already passed by Slagcoin's awesome site; but just in case you haven't, its got alot of great dimensions on control panel templates. http://slagcoin.com/joystick/layout.html
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  • thirtytwoutsidethirtytwoutside HOW CAN SHE SLAP Joined: Posts: 241

    The problem with primer is that you're still painting on top of something and you'll still see the wood grain unless you do multiple/heavy coats... with Gesso, you can tint the bonding medium. And it's pretty thick.
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    DSS - I'm only covering a 4"x4" area and after seeing and feeling the metals .05 should be ok but I'll be testing them all to see what works best. I am a pretty rough player so trust me I want this stick to be strong. But I also have to take the price of materials into account.

    KenjiXSamurai - yes I am very familiar with the button layout section on slagcoins site. I may make a few different layouts just so I can try them out for myself to see what I like. I actually want to make a couple of jigs that will make cutting different hole patterns easy and exact every time. If only I had a CNC machine at my disposal ;\

    Hey thirtytwoutside - thanks for the tip about Gesso I spoke to a friend who's an art major at CSULB and he also confirmed that this would make a nice filler and cover any dark coloring in the wood. So painting white over dark spots wouldn't be a problem and it would make the wood smooth like porcelain after a little sanding. I'll give it a try since I've got a few to experiment on ;)
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  • Paik4LifePaik4Life Team HnI Joined: Posts: 1,212
    This looks really great. I greatly admire your woodworking skills, but I admire your workspace more. I unfortunately don't have that much room where I can have a dedicated woodworking area. I wish I had one like Tim (Timoe aka Norris Arcade Sticks) : (

    ~Paik
  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    Really impressive Voltech. If you end up selling cases I might have to pick one of these up.

    Would getting different hardwoods be an option?

    I'd love to work with different woods in the future! Although I don't think I could do this shape with some of these woods but I have some other more organic ideas for that :D
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/56701743@N00/sets/72157615327377201/
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Man i want some of these so bad!! :lovin: your woodwork is stunning! :rock:
  • ImitrexImitrex Jiu-Jitsu!!!!! Joined: Posts: 1,291
    I'd love to work with different woods in the future! Although I don't think I could do this shape with some of these woods but I have some other more organic ideas for that :D
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/56701743@N00/sets/72157615327377201/

    I swear to god, I'll (along with other stick makers) will send an army of midgets (with bad intentions) to your house if you do purchase some of those woods, and commit blasphemy by painting them. :rofl:
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    CordellCP3 - Thank you but this is just the tip of the ice berg :D

    Imitrex - Oh I know better than that trust me. I plan on studying the fine art of stains dies and clear coats. I wouldn't want to hide that kind of beauty under any paint. My father uses the shop to build cabinets and re finish furniture so if you didn't kick my ass he would lol But thank you for your concern.
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  • VOLTECHVOLTECH Voltech Arcade Sticks FTW Joined: Posts: 3,040
    A little help please :D
    I need the diameter of the Sanwa and Seimitsu dust covers. In order to fit the Koren sticks I'll need to have a 35mm hole in the plexiglass where the stick is mounted, most people mount them in 24 mm holes. I used a 1" hole om my stick about 25.4mm and it worked fine. I'm curious to see if a can hide a 35mm hole under it or do I need to make a special top for the Korean sticks. This would also help with the template for the art too.

    There's another thing I want to try and solve too, it's the the snap in and screw in button problem. I want to be able to let people do both with the same design and I wonder if I can pull it off.
    Here's my idea - Drill the button holes with 2 little notches cut out on the sides in the MDF below the Plexi so the snap in buttons can fit in and so you can get them out. The Plexi will be screwed down in the corners so it moving around shouldn't be a problem. The screw in buttons shouldn't even be affected as they'll fit in just the same as they always do. The only ting that might be a problem is what thickens plexi works best and will the art underneath get a little damaged if you not careful putting them in. I've never used snap in buttons and their hard to get a hold of to test this theory out. Has anyone tried this or can anyone confirm if this would work ?

    Here's my button hole template so far let me know what you think
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/56701743@N00/3366305417/sizes/l/
    Updated pic with new measurements!!!
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    I sent you an email back, Vol. Get at me on AIM if you want to discuss.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    im still waiting! sell these already im in socal and will pick up! haha
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