Converter Compatibility Thread

Kyle

Thanks. I added it. MarkMan's review made that simple.

Unknown

I am able to confirm that the TAC adapter works with some PS2 games on PS3. I tested it with my SFAC stick on Marvel vs. Capcom 2. The adapter worked flawlessly like I was playing on a PS2. FYI my MvC2 game is in mint condition.

On the other hand, it also works fine with a Dual Shock 2,(no rumble though) the analog button serves as the home button. They work on the PC without requiring drivers.

Tiberious

I'm getting one of the Hais adaptors, so Ill be able to test it with a digital PS1 board (in my stick). We'll see if it's compatible or drops inputs.

I'm hoping it's the answer, 'cause I really don't want to have to try to find an InPin or Pelican (InPin is sold out, and the Pelicans are expensive), or wait 'til Laugh gets his new kind in.

Unknown

The Sumoto adapter worked very well with the Hori Tekken 5 stick. I tested it with Alpha Anthology and had no issues at all, the button mapping was even spot on.

I'll try it with some other controllers tomorrow.

BadMojo

^ Does the Sumoto come with vibration support? It does have a PS button though right?

Since the inPins are still out of stock I might go with either that or the HAIS. However the list doesn't say if they're compatible with a PS1 DS. Can anyone confirm they do or do not?

Also everyone who've tested converters for lag are you all testing for dropped inputs as well? I mean, you only have to press one button for that input test program, but during actual gameplay you're moving the stick and pressing multiple buttons in quick succession. Might create lag.

Dexa

ive just finished testing my custom psx1 pcb arcade stick with the xfps 3. for me it seems to work lag free on pc and 360. didnt have any problems with missing inputs or something.

(there realy seem to be differences with the pcbs. i have used a scph-1200 H pcb.)

Unknown

BadMojo, post: 2813954 wrote:

^ Does the Sumoto come with vibration support? It does have a PS button though right?

Also everyone who've tested converters for lag are you all testing for dropped inputs as well? I mean, you only have to press one button for that input test program, but during actual gameplay you're moving the stick and pressing multiple buttons in quick succession. Might create lag.

I haven't tried the Sumoto with a Dual Shock yet, just a Hori Tekken 5 stick, and it does have a PS button, as well as 4 directional buttons (?). As for dropped inputs I haven't taken it into training mode yet, but I used it for gameplay and did special moves, combos and 3 button supers without issue for over an hour. I'll make a little time to run it through the wringer later, but my initial impression is very good.

JeremyXGaming

Perhaps I can help a bit, I have most of these adapters.

HAIS: Press Up+Select on the D-PAD to access the XMB menu. Press the DualShock's Analog button or press and hold Up+Select to access the PS system menu. This one has a PS button on the adapter, 4 LEDs, and a memory card slot.

Yobo: Works the same as HAIS except has no PS button on the adapter, LEDs, or mem card slot.

The Ant Commandos/Rock Commandos: Press the Analog button to access the XMB menu, press and hold the Analog button to access the system menu. Up+Select does nothing. This one has 4 LEDs.

Hyperkin: Press the Analog button once to access the XMB menu, double-press the Analog button to access the system menu. This one has 4 LEDs. Up+Select does nothing.

Sumoto: same as Hyperkin but also has a PS button on the actual adapter along with 4 directional buttons (so you can use the menus from the adapter itself). This one has 4 LEDs. Up+Select does nothing.

Tinybee: Press the Analog button once or Press Up+Select to access the XMB menu, double-press the Analog button or Press and hold Up+Select to access the system menu. This one has 4 LEDs.

PC Type: These adapters were made for PC USB (not PS3), and have no PS button functions. You don't have to activate these adapters like you do with all of the others above (I think that these adapters are seen by the system as a PS2 gamepad, whereas the others are seen as a PS3 gamepad). The Analog button acts as just that. The DragonPlus v1, Super Dual Box Advance (Jietron), and PIII Model 538 are all this type. As far as I can tell, any PS2-PC USB adapter will work like this.

Unknown

My buddy grabbed a HVG2... it's a no go on the Tekken 5 or Pelican PS2 sticks. Took that suckaa back!!

Still liking the Sumoto tho. Lots of tests for it tomorrow!

Kyle

JeremyXGaming, post: 2813957 wrote:

Perhaps I can help a bit, I have most of these adapters.

Thanks for the uber post. I'll get all this added once I have some spare quality time.

HaiDuongRiceMan

Looks like mine is a PS1 Digital PCB. Will look to buy a Sumoto adapter and see if it works on PS3...

Unknown

So I finally put the Sumoto PS2/PS3 converter I got from Omega Collectibles off ebay through it's paces tonight. Used 3rd Strike as my test game this time. The test was:

Use Akuma in training mode - do every special from both sides, use combos with cancels into a Goushoryu super art, throws, taunts and Shun Goku Satsu from both sides.

Results:

Hori Tekken 5 Anniversary - No issues
Pelican Real Arcade PS2 - No issues
Sony Dual Shock 2 - No issues
Nuby Street Fighter Anniversary Pad - No issues
PS1 Ascii Stick PS - No issues
Sony Dual Shock - No issues
GameStop PS1 Dual Analog Controller - No issues

Now I'm no serious tournament player, but DO I know what a laggy stick feels like, and I really couldn't be more impressed with this converter. It's taken everything I've thrown at it and hasn't even hiccuped, and that includes just swapping controllers and sticks all willy-nilly all night to see if I could feel a difference. I haven't used the other good one yet, but I can't see it being too much better than this.

Quality seems good, the cable is a little short but not too stubby, and it doesn't support rumble. That's really the only down side I can see to the Sumoto!

Twinniss

someone send one to markman for extensive heavy testing and for a follow up review

we could have the new pelican/real/inPin

Kyle

I had a busy weekend without much opportunity to troll SRK. The OP should pretty much be up to date with everyone's submissions. I also added some PS1 Digital testing I did as well as other info I've come across. Thanks for all of the recent posts.

Yobo: I'll get this one added soon since a few people apparently own it.
Hyperkin, Tinybee: I couldn't find enough posts on these to do a write-up.

MarkMan also mentioned that this thread may get merged into the other converter thread. Obviously that hasn't happened but I hope I still have the ability to edit my posts.

Canto

I'll buy a HAIS (dealextreme) and test it out. I was going to go with the sumoto but the hais select+up feature is a really great feature. The REAL adapter has the same feature and I use it all the time! If the HAIS works just as good as my REAL I'll be selling my REAL and be buying a couple HAIS!

It should be noted that the REAL is kinda flimsy. It unhooks out of the USB socket really quickly.. as in it doesn't hold tight. Also, I left one in the car for an hour and the USB head melted.. seems to be made of cheap aluminium or something lol.

Valaris

By the way, the HAIS is compatible with non-dualshock ps1 controllers.

Canto

Valaris, post: 2813965 wrote:

By the way, the HAIS is compatible with non-dualshock ps1 controllers.

Oh??? Good deal! Thats what I have in my Custom sticks!

VPT

Kyle, post: 2813938 wrote:

If I can save someone $90 from buying that godawful thing then I've done well.

You actually might have...

I'd be interested to know your updated findings on the PS2->360 converters whenever you end up doing your tests.

DoughBoy

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11707

Anyone tried this out yet? I can't tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I'd ask for an opinion here first.

Canto

DoughBoy, post: 2813968 wrote:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11707

Anyone tried this out yet? I can't tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I'd ask for an opinion here first.

You'll see many converters that look just like that on ebay and amazon.. I have one myself and in addition to it lagging it also drops inputs every now and again. I was playing megaman x3 with it and I SWORE I pressed jump at the right time in certain areas... and sure enough I was and it was just that converter lagging and dropping inputs.

On PS3 on VF5 it doesn't even register directions for some reason.. lol.

DoughBoy

Beautiful. Thanks for the warning, I'll steer clear.

maduhbee

okay i'm returning one TAC adapter because it's not compatible with PSX Digital Pad. I'm getting the HAIS one... but should I pay for the EMS shipping? Actually, Shipping is like 19 bucks on these bad boys! that makes this converter $30+!!! are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I'm keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think...)

BadMojo

Gunstar Hero, post: 2813961 wrote:

Sony Dual Shock - No issues

Thanks for the review and confirmation it works with PS1 DS. I'll pick this up and try it out with SF4 and MAME. Description says it works with dancepads so I'll test it with StepMania as well. PS3 isn't b/c however and I don't have VF5 so I can't test any PS2 games.

PS button on converter is good enough for me. I play PS3 with a Logitech controller and only use the DS3 for the home button so I'm not worried about the no up+select option or rumble support.

Kyle

maduhbee, post: 2813971 wrote:

Are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I'm keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think...)

The Sumoto converter is $15 shipped on eBay and supports digital PCBs. I'd go that route since you'll probably also receive it sooner.

VPT, post: 2813967 wrote:

I'd be interested to know your updated findings on the PS2->360 converters whenever you end up doing your tests.

Sure thing. I'll pick up one of these whenever my stick sells (shameless plug ). I'm a little short on cash otherwise from working on my Saturn to PS2/360 pads. I wish everything would get in already so I could start on those.

Twinniss

Sumoto looks like a better converter to me and looks promising, just wish i could get a markman review on it now.

As for the yobo converter, i think i got one around 07. compared to the pelican things just feel different(with inputs n stuff). perhaps theres lag on it, but it just feels different

Unknown

Sorry to bother you guys, got a lag question, kinda new to adapters. I'm still testing my logic3 adapter with a bunch of friends. Can't say I notice any lag offline, with a ps1 Hori or Namco stick, (most fadc combo's work nicely in training) the problem is when I take it online. For some reason, I whiffed a lot of moves (backthrow-ultra whiffed 5 times) when the connection seemed fine. Is it possible to notice stick lag during online only? I'd imagine I'd notice it during offline, too.

Unknown

Darth Chang, post: 2813975 wrote:

Sorry to bother you guys, got a lag question, kinda new to adapters. I'm still testing my logic3 adapter with a bunch of friends. Can't say I notice any lag offline, with a ps1 Hori or Namco stick, (most fadc combo's work nicely in training) the problem is when I take it online. For some reason, I whiffed a lot of moves (backthrow-ultra whiffed 5 times) when the connection seemed fine. Is it possible to notice stick lag during online only? I'd imagine I'd notice it during offline, too.

I don't THINK there would be an issue, but timing is so much more critical in a player match than a cpu match maybe you were feeling some lag? Then again playing online can change the timing of a match too... that's why my first test is play for at least an hour with the converter and see if I enjoy the game... because if it lags, I won't!!

Kyle

Gunstar Hero, post: 2813976 wrote:

I don't THINK there would be an issue, but timing is so much more critical in a player match than a cpu match maybe you were feeling some lag?

Yeah, I'm thinking it's psychological as well. The converter isn't actually working differently online vs not. It's just converting signals and doing its little electronic magic. It's not smart enough to selectively screw you over.

Truckasaurus

Kyle, post: 2813909 wrote:

I've seen three or four posts saying that it did not work. It's possible they all had the green pcb. Hopefully someone can confirm this.

I got 2 yellow PCB SFAC sticks that I used the inpin converter on and it worked fine for me. Maybe we can get another confirmation from some more yellow PCB SFAC stick users with the inpin.

Does anybody have any experience with the Total Control 3 Saturn to Dreamcast converter? I want to use it for Saturn Twin Stick use on Dreamcast and Sega Saturn HSS-130 and HSS-136 conversion for dreamcast use. thanks for this thread btw, phenomenal work

Nitrox

Hey all
I kinda need some help...
I bought a TAC converter, might have been a bad idea...

So I plug it in, turn on the ps3, and the buttons are all wonky
Left does nothing, up and down work fine, but right acts as 'x'
All 6 attack buttons are mixed up
But start and select work just fine, and if you press 'em at the same time it's a ps button

Any idea if there's a way to fix what buttons it thinks are what, it wouldn't be a problem if it was just the attack buttons but left and right too!!

Thanks

***Edit***
Incase anyone has this issue too, don't get frustrated
I just had to play with the rocker switch and unplug the converter and plug it back in a lot, and it works! I feel like a 'tard

Unknown

Bookmarked.

maduhbee

does a PS3 > Xbox 360 converter exist yet?

Truckasaurus

maduhbee, post: 2813981 wrote:

does a PS3 > Xbox 360 converter exist yet?

Nope

Canto

Oh wow.. I just found out about the shipping time on the HAIS....... 14-17 days!!!!!!! DAMN!
I don't need it right now anyways.. the wait begins though! lol

Kyle

Truckasaurus, post: 2813978 wrote:

I got 2 yellow PCB SFAC sticks that I used the inpin converter on and it worked fine for me. Maybe we can get another confirmation from some more yellow PCB SFAC stick users with the inpin.

Thanks, that's the first I've heard of this so I'll go update.

Unknown

I'd be shocked if the Sumoto didn't work too. I don't think there's anything it can't do!

JeremyXGaming

Has anyone tested this model of HAIS adapter?

http://tinyurl.com/ccyomf

Truckasaurus

I'm still researching on this EMS Total control 3 Saturn to Dreamcast converter. There are a couple of reviews for it on play-asia.com

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-h5-77-1-49-en-15-total+control-70-46.html

I'll just post the cliff notes:
-VMU port does not work
-Maps L/R triggers to C/Z buttons (correctly)
-And should be compatible with Twin Sticks

Anyone have any first hand experience with this converter? I'll probably just end up getting it myself and give my experience

Q.R.

ive searched and searched and havent found any clear answer to whether or not the HRAP2:SA works perfectly and lagfree and all that good stuff with a total control plus (ps2->dreamcast) converter, anyone have any experience? it says the HRAP2 is compatible but nothing explicitly about the SA version

thanks

Unknown

Ok guys

I have a SFAC: green pcb inside , V1.1 (not 3.5)

it does not work with a generic no name ps2-ps3 converter

i have read these forums over and over and have come to the conclusion that it does NOT work with either the TAC or the dealextreme (HAIs) converter

any ideas on what WILL work ?

thanks in advance guys

note: i have also posted this in the nubytech SFAC thread

thanks again

Canto

What? SFAC green PCB doesn't work with HAIS?? Damn I have one of those in a stick of mine... I'll test it out when I get it and get back to you because I don't recall anyone saying that about them.

Unknown

thanks canto

yeah some ppl have reported some skitzing when pressing the home button??

thats wat i am gathering from following kyle around :D

i just wanna get the right converter

thanks again

Kyle

Yep. I'm still trying to gather information on the SFAC. In another thread a guy said that the color of the PCB didn't matter so much as the voltage on it. I haven't seen anyone say the Yellow PCB didn't work so I'm still going off the colors. He claimed that if the Green PCB says 3.5 next to the system cable then it will work. I just don't have enough info to verify this.

Edit: I recently had a guy try to sell me a Yellow SFAC PCB. You may want to put up a 'Wanted to Buy' thread in the Trading Outlet to get one of these. It should be a cheap and easy swap.

aggrastat

JeremyXGaming, post: 2813986 wrote:

Has anyone tested this model of HAIS adapter?

http://tinyurl.com/ccyomf

I'd try it, where to buy?

Unknown

ive got a yellow pcb.... i bought a no name converter which didnt work. i was advised on here that the tac would deffo work. it responds a bit, but the buttons act weird and it doesnt go lest. any ideas guys???????

Unknown

IGNORE MY LAST POST... I CAN CONFIRM TAC ADAPTER IS WORKING WITH MY YELLOWISH PCB BOARD!! i just messed around with the switches on the adapter and it worked... im so happy :) hope this gives light to you guys, coz i was gonna give up. trust me i know how you feel. but i can 100% confirm tac adapter works, i havnt done a lag test but it seems fine. good luck

Kyle

Thanks for the update. The TAC converter doesn't need any more strikes against it. Is there anything labeled on it so that you could provide the working configuration?

Unknown

yes it seems that everyone has found the SFAC yellow pcb to work well with the inpin, tac and i assume HAIs converters

I think it is the SFAC with green pcb that we need more info on

and unfortunately i have the one with the green one!!

Unknown

Kyle, post: 2813996 wrote:

Thanks for the update. The TAC converter doesn't need any more strikes against it. Is there anything labeled on it so that you could provide the working configuration?

There are 3 switches on the TAC adapter, GP=gamepad(You need to switch to this to play your stick or controller.) RB=Rock Band GH=Guitar Hero.

Unknown

hey kyle I cant post in the trading post yet. post count isnt high enough
do you know the user who was selling his yellow SFAC pcb??

does anyone here have a spare yellow pcb i can buy ? I am located in Aus