Converter Compatibility Thread

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  • ValarisValaris keeping watch over SRK Joined: Posts: 12,747 mod
    By the way, the HAIS is compatible with non-dualshock ps1 controllers.
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  • CantoCanto www.yousefq8.com Joined: Posts: 1,546
    By the way, the HAIS is compatible with non-dualshock ps1 controllers.

    Oh??? Good deal! Thats what I have in my Custom sticks! :lovin:
  • VPTVPT I give up... Joined: Posts: 761
    If I can save someone $90 from buying that godawful thing then I've done well.
    You actually might have...

    I'd be interested to know your updated findings on the PS2->360 converters whenever you end up doing your tests.
  • DoughBoyDoughBoy MvC3 cameos PLZ Joined: Posts: 2,929
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11707

    Anyone tried this out yet? I can't tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I'd ask for an opinion here first.
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  • CantoCanto www.yousefq8.com Joined: Posts: 1,546
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11707

    Anyone tried this out yet? I can't tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I'd ask for an opinion here first.

    You'll see many converters that look just like that on ebay and amazon.. I have one myself and in addition to it lagging it also drops inputs every now and again. I was playing megaman x3 with it and I SWORE I pressed jump at the right time in certain areas... and sure enough I was and it was just that converter lagging and dropping inputs.

    On PS3 on VF5 it doesn't even register directions for some reason.. lol.
  • DoughBoyDoughBoy MvC3 cameos PLZ Joined: Posts: 2,929
    Beautiful. Thanks for the warning, I'll steer clear.
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  • maduhbeemaduhbee Joined: Posts: 128
    okay i'm returning one TAC adapter because it's not compatible with PSX Digital Pad. I'm getting the HAIS one... but should I pay for the EMS shipping? Actually, Shipping is like 19 bucks on these bad boys! that makes this converter $30+!!! are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I'm keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think...)
  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭✭
    Sony Dual Shock - No issues

    Thanks for the review and confirmation it works with PS1 DS. I'll pick this up and try it out with SF4 and MAME. Description says it works with dancepads so I'll test it with StepMania as well. PS3 isn't b/c however and I don't have VF5 so I can't test any PS2 games.

    PS button on converter is good enough for me. I play PS3 with a Logitech controller and only use the DS3 for the home button so I'm not worried about the no up+select option or rumble support.
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    Are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I'm keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think...)
    The Sumoto converter is $15 shipped on eBay and supports digital PCBs. I'd go that route since you'll probably also receive it sooner.
    I'd be interested to know your updated findings on the PS2->360 converters whenever you end up doing your tests.
    Sure thing. I'll pick up one of these whenever my stick sells (shameless plug :nono:). I'm a little short on cash otherwise from working on my Saturn to PS2/360 pads. I wish everything would get in already so I could start on those.
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  • TwinnissTwinniss Joined: Posts: 763
    Sumoto looks like a better converter to me and looks promising, just wish i could get a markman review on it now.

    As for the yobo converter, i think i got one around 07. compared to the pelican things just feel different(with inputs n stuff). perhaps theres lag on it, but it just feels different
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    Sorry to bother you guys, got a lag question, kinda new to adapters. I'm still testing my logic3 adapter with a bunch of friends. Can't say I notice any lag offline, with a ps1 Hori or Namco stick, (most fadc combo's work nicely in training) the problem is when I take it online. For some reason, I whiffed a lot of moves (backthrow-ultra whiffed 5 times) when the connection seemed fine. Is it possible to notice stick lag during online only? I'd imagine I'd notice it during offline, too.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    Sorry to bother you guys, got a lag question, kinda new to adapters. I'm still testing my logic3 adapter with a bunch of friends. Can't say I notice any lag offline, with a ps1 Hori or Namco stick, (most fadc combo's work nicely in training) the problem is when I take it online. For some reason, I whiffed a lot of moves (backthrow-ultra whiffed 5 times) when the connection seemed fine. Is it possible to notice stick lag during online only? I'd imagine I'd notice it during offline, too.

    I don't THINK there would be an issue, but timing is so much more critical in a player match than a cpu match maybe you were feeling some lag? Then again playing online can change the timing of a match too... that's why my first test is play for at least an hour with the converter and see if I enjoy the game... because if it lags, I won't!!
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    I don't THINK there would be an issue, but timing is so much more critical in a player match than a cpu match maybe you were feeling some lag?
    Yeah, I'm thinking it's psychological as well. The converter isn't actually working differently online vs not. It's just converting signals and doing its little electronic magic. It's not smart enough to selectively screw you over.
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  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,217
    I've seen three or four posts saying that it did not work. It's possible they all had the green pcb. Hopefully someone can confirm this.

    I got 2 yellow PCB SFAC sticks that I used the inpin converter on and it worked fine for me. Maybe we can get another confirmation from some more yellow PCB SFAC stick users with the inpin.

    Does anybody have any experience with the Total Control 3 Saturn to Dreamcast converter? I want to use it for Saturn Twin Stick use on Dreamcast and Sega Saturn HSS-130 and HSS-136 conversion for dreamcast use. thanks for this thread btw, phenomenal work
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  • NitroxNitrox Joined: Posts: 61
    Hey all
    I kinda need some help...
    I bought a TAC converter, might have been a bad idea...

    So I plug it in, turn on the ps3, and the buttons are all wonky
    Left does nothing, up and down work fine, but right acts as 'x'
    All 6 attack buttons are mixed up
    But start and select work just fine, and if you press 'em at the same time it's a ps button

    Any idea if there's a way to fix what buttons it thinks are what, it wouldn't be a problem if it was just the attack buttons but left and right too!!

    Thanks

    ***Edit***
    Incase anyone has this issue too, don't get frustrated
    I just had to play with the rocker switch and unplug the converter and plug it back in a lot, and it works! I feel like a 'tard
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  • maduhbeemaduhbee Joined: Posts: 128
    does a PS3 > Xbox 360 converter exist yet?
  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,217
    does a PS3 > Xbox 360 converter exist yet?

    Nope
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  • CantoCanto www.yousefq8.com Joined: Posts: 1,546
    Oh wow.. I just found out about the shipping time on the HAIS....... 14-17 days!!!!!!! DAMN!
    I don't need it right now anyways.. the wait begins though! lol
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    I got 2 yellow PCB SFAC sticks that I used the inpin converter on and it worked fine for me. Maybe we can get another confirmation from some more yellow PCB SFAC stick users with the inpin.
    Thanks, that's the first I've heard of this so I'll go update.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    I'd be shocked if the Sumoto didn't work too. I don't think there's anything it can't do!
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  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,217
    I'm still researching on this EMS Total control 3 Saturn to Dreamcast converter. There are a couple of reviews for it on play-asia.com

    http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-h5-77-1-49-en-15-total+control-70-46.html

    I'll just post the cliff notes:
    -VMU port does not work
    -Maps L/R triggers to C/Z buttons (correctly)
    -And should be compatible with Twin Sticks

    Anyone have any first hand experience with this converter? I'll probably just end up getting it myself and give my experience
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  • Q.R.Q.R. yo Joined: Posts: 457
    ive searched and searched and havent found any clear answer to whether or not the HRAP2:SA works perfectly and lagfree and all that good stuff with a total control plus (ps2->dreamcast) converter, anyone have any experience? it says the HRAP2 is compatible but nothing explicitly about the SA version

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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    Ok guys

    I have a SFAC: green pcb inside , V1.1 (not 3.5)

    it does not work with a generic no name ps2-ps3 converter

    i have read these forums over and over and have come to the conclusion that it does NOT work with either the TAC or the dealextreme (HAIs) converter

    any ideas on what WILL work ?

    thanks in advance guys

    note: i have also posted this in the nubytech SFAC thread

    thanks again
  • CantoCanto www.yousefq8.com Joined: Posts: 1,546
    What? SFAC green PCB doesn't work with HAIS?? Damn I have one of those in a stick of mine... I'll test it out when I get it and get back to you because I don't recall anyone saying that about them.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    thanks canto

    yeah some ppl have reported some skitzing when pressing the home button??

    thats wat i am gathering from following kyle around :D

    i just wanna get the right converter

    thanks again
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    Yep. I'm still trying to gather information on the SFAC. In another thread a guy said that the color of the PCB didn't matter so much as the voltage on it. I haven't seen anyone say the Yellow PCB didn't work so I'm still going off the colors. He claimed that if the Green PCB says 3.5 next to the system cable then it will work. I just don't have enough info to verify this.

    Edit: I recently had a guy try to sell me a Yellow SFAC PCB. You may want to put up a 'Wanted to Buy' thread in the Trading Outlet to get one of these. It should be a cheap and easy swap.
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  • aggrastataggrastat Motion Wave Gun Joined: Posts: 316
    Has anyone tested this model of HAIS adapter?

    http://tinyurl.com/ccyomf

    I'd try it, where to buy?
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    ive got a yellow pcb.... i bought a no name converter which didnt work. i was advised on here that the tac would deffo work. it responds a bit, but the buttons act weird and it doesnt go lest. any ideas guys???????
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    IGNORE MY LAST POST... I CAN CONFIRM TAC ADAPTER IS WORKING WITH MY YELLOWISH PCB BOARD!! i just messed around with the switches on the adapter and it worked... im so happy :) hope this gives light to you guys, coz i was gonna give up. trust me i know how you feel. but i can 100% confirm tac adapter works, i havnt done a lag test but it seems fine. good luck
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    Thanks for the update. The TAC converter doesn't need any more strikes against it. :smile: Is there anything labeled on it so that you could provide the working configuration?
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    yes it seems that everyone has found the SFAC yellow pcb to work well with the inpin, tac and i assume HAIs converters

    I think it is the SFAC with green pcb that we need more info on

    and unfortunately i have the one with the green one!!
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    Thanks for the update. The TAC converter doesn't need any more strikes against it. :smile: Is there anything labeled on it so that you could provide the working configuration?
    There are 3 switches on the TAC adapter, GP=gamepad(You need to switch to this to play your stick or controller.) RB=Rock Band GH=Guitar Hero.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    hey kyle I cant post in the trading post yet. post count isnt high enough
    do you know the user who was selling his yellow SFAC pcb??

    does anyone here have a spare yellow pcb i can buy ? I am located in Aus
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    ^ Sure. I'll send him a PM and post back when he replies.
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  • bitkidbitkid BiTKiD Joined: Posts: 685
    So are those PSX to PS3 converters lagless? I have a Super Dual Box (one of the triangle shaped 2 port converters) and also some generic translucent green Chinese converter and both are slightly laggy with the PS3. Neither of these converters lag with my PC though. I would say both converters lag about 3-4 frames.

    What is the best non-laggy PSX converter for PS3 that any of you guys recommend?
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    InPin, Pelican, Real should all definitely be lagless. The Sumoto is another a good/cheap option if you can't find one of those.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    So are those PSX to PS3 converters lagless? I have a Super Dual Box (one of the triangle shaped 2 port converters) and also some generic translucent green Chinese converter and both are slightly laggy with the PS3. Neither of these converters lag with my PC though. I would say both converters lag about 3-4 frames.

    What is the best non-laggy PSX converter for PS3 that any of you guys recommend?

    I haven't used the Sumoto on the PC yet, but I've bought 3 for PS3 use so far and am LOVING them.
  • jinxmitchelljinxmitchell Born again n00b Joined: Posts: 1,431
    I have been looking around to see if a HRAP2 will play PS2 games via a 60gb PS3 and any specific adapters. I'm going to get a couple of inpins when they are available again unless I find out they don't do the trick.
  • FunkyFFunkyF Still Scrubby Joined: Posts: 300
    Since the original xbox controllers were usb spec with a funny end, anyone try using a female usb to xbox converter? I was considering getting one of these, but wanted to know if someone tested this with one of their controllers. Figured a PS3 controller was a better bet, but it might even work with a xbox 360 controller

    Linky: http://cgi.ebay.com/Computer-PC-USB-to-XBOX-Adapter-Controller-Cable-Female_W0QQitemZ270365928934QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item270365928934&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,721 mod
    Since the original xbox controllers were usb spec with a funny end, anyone try using a female usb to xbox converter? I was considering getting one of these, but wanted to know if someone tested this with one of their controllers.
    You will need to run Xbox Linux or a homebrew application for that to work. It won't natively take USB input like that as best I'm aware.
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  • TwinnissTwinniss Joined: Posts: 763
    you just need to grab XBCD drivers, people found out long ago that xbox used usb connectors so some people just spliced their port and added in a real usb thing. From there people made drivers

    here ya go
    XBCD 0.2.6 http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com/index....opic=1816&st=0
    XBCD+ http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1571
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    hey doublefanboy, who got that adapter to work with SFAC green pcb 8V??
  • FunkyFFunkyF Still Scrubby Joined: Posts: 300
    you just need to grab XBCD drivers, people found out long ago that xbox used usb connectors so some people just spliced their port and added in a real usb thing. From there people made drivers

    here ya go
    XBCD 0.2.6 http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com/index....opic=1816&st=0
    XBCD+ http://redcl0ud.1.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1571

    Maybe I misread, but aren't these drivers for PC? Because I wasn't talking about taking old xbox 1 controllers and using them on PC, I was talking about using USB joysticks and using them on the old xbox.
    You will need to run Xbox Linux or a homebrew application for that to work. It won't natively take USB input like that as best I'm aware.

    On Toodles' MC Cthulhu instructions, he says that instead of wiring a MC Cthulhu for the old xbox, that you can just use that adapter. I figure that the old xbox wouldn't recognize a controller unless the drivers were native, but do PS3 controllers get recognized natively on PC? Figured if they do, maybe there's a shot that it might work. Worst case, I guess this will only work with a MC Cthulhu board.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    hey doublefanboy, who got that adapter to work with SFAC green pcb 8V??
    It was Adroc. He provided an ebay link, notice this generic adapter doesn't have a brand or anything. But Im pretty sure its the model 538.
    This thread needs a renewed bump given the popularity of this stick for US players. (Sticky perhaps?)

    My Anniversary stick is the older version with the green PCB and a "haired" Zangief on the artwork. I am looking forward to mod it to the same spec that ArcadeStickMonk had -- many thanks to you for the easy-to-follow guide.

    Regarding a converter for this stick to make it operable for the PS3, I found one that worked for me off ebay. **Note that it works for my stick, which has the 'older' green PCB. If you have the "newer" revision of the stick with the yellow PCB and the no hair Zangief, YMMV**

    Here is a link to the ebayer for reference in case you are looking for one:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-DUAL-PLAYSTATION2-PS2-TO-PS3-CONVERT-ADAPTER-CABLE_W0QQitemZ260352534724QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Accessories?hash=item260352534724&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

    Confirmed games with this adapter: SF II HD and SF4

    (oh yea..my first post :P )
  • AdrocAdroc Joined: Posts: 37
    As doublefanboy stated, the converter that I got is a generic one with no brand name -- I do not know whether it is the model 538, but this converter has 2 PS2 connectors to 1 USB interface, as shown in the picture if you click on the ebay link.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 20,835 admin
    As doublefanboy stated, the converter that I got is a generic one with no brand name -- I do not know whether it is the model 538, but this converter has 2 PS2 connectors to 1 USB interface, as shown in the picture if you click on the ebay link.
    You probably have a different adapter(my bad), the 538 only has 1 PS2 connector.
  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's my review for the Sumoto PS2->PS3 adapter.

    I ordered the converter through Ebay from the seller linked to a few pages back in the thread. Paid right away after auction ended, item shipped the next morning and I received it in 1 business day. I live about 200km away from the seller so that explains the fast delivery. All in all, no problems regarding the purchase.

    As for the converter, it's brand new and looks exactly as it does in the product page. First thing I did was plug it into the PS3 to test with an arcade stick that uses a DS1 for its PCB. No problems. Next I tested it with a regular DS2 pad and it seems to work just as fine. Next I went into training mode in SF4 and began testing the adapter performing ultra setups, links, and combos. Buttons were mapped correctly right off the bat.

    Granted I didn't test it with every character, mostly just Rufus, Ryu and Sagat's juggles, etc. However, tricks like Cammy's TK Cannon Strike, Dhalsim's Instant Air Teleport, Viper Knuckle cancels and Gief's dash forward 720 ultra were coming out just fine. I also tested for dropped inputs by holding directional inputs for a few seconds and found no problems there either.

    There is one thing I cannot seem to hit consistently however, and that's Balrog's headbutt juggled into ultra. I'm not a boxer player so the only times I use him is in challenge mode, but I need someone who owns the Sumoto to test his ultra setups. ie. C.LP, C.LP, C.LK xx Headbutt, Ultra or some variation of it. I can never land the headbutt after, I usually just end up jumping backwards. This also means I'm stuck on his hard trial 5. Thus I need someone who owns the adapter and test it with Rog so I know it's not the converter and is just my execution. Oh I also can't do Elf's RSF (2 hits max), but I heard that loop is hard as hell to perform anyway.

    I'll need to play SF4 more to get a better idea but so far everything feels good offline. Online still sucks though with the input lag but we already knew that.

    Back to the converter. I know someone already brought this up in the other converter thread, but I can confirm the 4 LEDS on it do not light up when plugged into the PS3. There's a menu button on the converter functions as the PS Button, also pressing the analog button on the DS2 will bring up the XMB.

    The Sumoto claims to support vibration. I have not yet tested the converter with any games other than SF4 so I can't say whether it really does or not. (Does SF4 even support vibration? I haven't felt any when I've played it with the DS3).

    The Sumoto also claims to convert any dancepad and racing wheel to PS3 and it has a joypad <-> guitar switch on the side. I don't own any racing wheels or play Guitar Hero so again, I can't say if it does or doesn't support them. As for dancepads, I plugged it into the PC (tested and no lag btw) to use with Stepmania. The PC detects it right away as Gamepad for PS3.

    Here's when I run into a problem. It doesn't look like the converter can recognize simultaneous left + right or up + down presses. Some converters can change into dance mode by holding Up+Select+Start but that didn't seem work either. Checking the controller properties there's no option to switch modes. Maybe I'm doing it wrong and am forgetting something or there's a workaround if I install another driver but so far after initial testing the Sumoto does not support dancepads contrary to what it says on the packaging. Anyways, I already own a Super Joy Box Pro 3 which works fine with dancepads so this isn't a major problem but I figured I should let everyone know regardless.

    Finally, I get the feeling the Sumoto converts everything to an analog signal. Even dpad inputs. Reason being the analog light is always on when the DS2 is plugged into it and I can't seem to turn it off. As mentioned, pressing the analog button on the pad acts as a PS button. Could this be a potential problem? Are there games out there that require both dpad (digital) and analog inputs to play? This is probably why the manufacturer included directional buttons on the converter itself. In any case if there is a problem with another game, chances are we'd just switch to a DS3.

    Sorry, I don't own Tekken 5: DR or VF5 and the PS3 isn't backwards compatible so a MarkMan review will still be better to measure the Sumoto's performance. I may do a followup after I get more hours of playtime with other games to confirm vibration, lag, etc.
  • TwinnissTwinniss Joined: Posts: 763
    sorry seriously misread that

    your going to need to run linux stuff on the xbox for usb controllers to work, otherwise I highly doubt it'll work

    360 is impossible due to security chip.

    thanks bad mojo. be great if you could've tested games like DR and VF5. wonder when the markman review will be up.

    Btw it probably means the simulatenous presses on benami games on 360 not pc. also does the dpad light up the dpad buttons on PC properties on does it still recognize it as analog?
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