Converter Compatibility Thread

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  • DexaDexa Joined: Posts: 98
    ive just finished testing my custom psx1 pcb arcade stick with the xfps 3. for me it seems to work lag free on pc and 360. didnt have any problems with missing inputs or something.

    (there realy seem to be differences with the pcbs. i have used a scph-1200 H pcb.)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    ^ Does the Sumoto come with vibration support? It does have a PS button though right?

    Also everyone who've tested converters for lag are you all testing for dropped inputs as well? I mean, you only have to press one button for that input test program, but during actual gameplay you're moving the stick and pressing multiple buttons in quick succession. Might create lag.

    I haven't tried the Sumoto with a Dual Shock yet, just a Hori Tekken 5 stick, and it does have a PS button, as well as 4 directional buttons (?). As for dropped inputs I haven't taken it into training mode yet, but I used it for gameplay and did special moves, combos and 3 button supers without issue for over an hour. I'll make a little time to run it through the wringer later, but my initial impression is very good.
  • JeremyXGamingJeremyXGaming Joined: Posts: 44
    Perhaps I can help a bit, I have most of these adapters.

    HAIS: Press Up+Select on the D-PAD to access the XMB menu. Press the DualShock's Analog button or press and hold Up+Select to access the PS system menu. This one has a PS button on the adapter, 4 LEDs, and a memory card slot.

    Yobo: Works the same as HAIS except has no PS button on the adapter, LEDs, or mem card slot.

    The Ant Commandos/Rock Commandos: Press the Analog button to access the XMB menu, press and hold the Analog button to access the system menu. Up+Select does nothing. This one has 4 LEDs.

    Hyperkin: Press the Analog button once to access the XMB menu, double-press the Analog button to access the system menu. This one has 4 LEDs. Up+Select does nothing.

    Sumoto: same as Hyperkin but also has a PS button on the actual adapter along with 4 directional buttons (so you can use the menus from the adapter itself). This one has 4 LEDs. Up+Select does nothing.

    Tinybee: Press the Analog button once or Press Up+Select to access the XMB menu, double-press the Analog button or Press and hold Up+Select to access the system menu. This one has 4 LEDs.

    PC Type: These adapters were made for PC USB (not PS3), and have no PS button functions. You don't have to activate these adapters like you do with all of the others above (I think that these adapters are seen by the system as a PS2 gamepad, whereas the others are seen as a PS3 gamepad). The Analog button acts as just that. The DragonPlus v1, Super Dual Box Advance (Jietron), and PIII Model 538 are all this type. As far as I can tell, any PS2-PC USB adapter will work like this.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    My buddy grabbed a HVG2... it's a no go on the Tekken 5 or Pelican PS2 sticks. Took that suckaa back!!

    Still liking the Sumoto tho. Lots of tests for it tomorrow!
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Perhaps I can help a bit, I have most of these adapters.
    Thanks for the uber post. I'll get all this added once I have some spare quality time.
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  • HaiDuongRiceManHaiDuongRiceMan Psycho...ABORTION Joined: Posts: 1,504
    Looks like mine is a PS1 Digital PCB. Will look to buy a Sumoto adapter and see if it works on PS3...
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    So I finally put the Sumoto PS2/PS3 converter I got from Omega Collectibles off ebay through it's paces tonight. Used 3rd Strike as my test game this time. The test was:

    Use Akuma in training mode - do every special from both sides, use combos with cancels into a Goushoryu super art, throws, taunts and Shun Goku Satsu from both sides.

    Results:

    Hori Tekken 5 Anniversary - No issues
    Pelican Real Arcade PS2 - No issues
    Sony Dual Shock 2 - No issues
    Nuby Street Fighter Anniversary Pad - No issues
    PS1 Ascii Stick PS - No issues
    Sony Dual Shock - No issues
    GameStop PS1 Dual Analog Controller - No issues

    Now I'm no serious tournament player, but DO I know what a laggy stick feels like, and I really couldn't be more impressed with this converter. It's taken everything I've thrown at it and hasn't even hiccuped, and that includes just swapping controllers and sticks all willy-nilly all night to see if I could feel a difference. I haven't used the other good one yet, but I can't see it being too much better than this.

    Quality seems good, the cable is a little short but not too stubby, and it doesn't support rumble. That's really the only down side I can see to the Sumoto!
  • TwinnissTwinniss Joined: Posts: 785
    someone send one to markman for extensive heavy testing and for a follow up review

    we could have the new pelican/real/inPin
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    I had a busy weekend without much opportunity to troll SRK. The OP should pretty much be up to date with everyone's submissions. I also added some PS1 Digital testing I did as well as other info I've come across. Thanks for all of the recent posts.

    Yobo: I'll get this one added soon since a few people apparently own it.
    Hyperkin, Tinybee: I couldn't find enough posts on these to do a write-up.

    MarkMan also mentioned that this thread may get merged into the other converter thread. Obviously that hasn't happened but I hope I still have the ability to edit my posts.
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  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    I'll buy a HAIS (dealextreme) and test it out. I was going to go with the sumoto but the hais select+up feature is a really great feature. The REAL adapter has the same feature and I use it all the time! If the HAIS works just as good as my REAL I'll be selling my REAL and be buying a couple HAIS!

    It should be noted that the REAL is kinda flimsy. It unhooks out of the USB socket really quickly.. as in it doesn't hold tight. Also, I left one in the car for an hour and the USB head melted.. seems to be made of cheap aluminium or something lol.
  • ValarisValaris keeping watch over SRK Joined: Posts: 13,078
    By the way, the HAIS is compatible with non-dualshock ps1 controllers.
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  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    By the way, the HAIS is compatible with non-dualshock ps1 controllers.

    Oh??? Good deal! Thats what I have in my Custom sticks! :lovin:
  • VPTVPT I give up... Joined: Posts: 765
    If I can save someone $90 from buying that godawful thing then I've done well.
    You actually might have...

    I'd be interested to know your updated findings on the PS2->360 converters whenever you end up doing your tests.
  • DoughBoyDoughBoy MvC3 cameos PLZ Joined: Posts: 2,930
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11707

    Anyone tried this out yet? I can't tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I'd ask for an opinion here first.
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  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11707

    Anyone tried this out yet? I can't tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I'd ask for an opinion here first.

    You'll see many converters that look just like that on ebay and amazon.. I have one myself and in addition to it lagging it also drops inputs every now and again. I was playing megaman x3 with it and I SWORE I pressed jump at the right time in certain areas... and sure enough I was and it was just that converter lagging and dropping inputs.

    On PS3 on VF5 it doesn't even register directions for some reason.. lol.
  • DoughBoyDoughBoy MvC3 cameos PLZ Joined: Posts: 2,930
    Beautiful. Thanks for the warning, I'll steer clear.
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  • maduhbeemaduhbee Joined: Posts: 128
    okay i'm returning one TAC adapter because it's not compatible with PSX Digital Pad. I'm getting the HAIS one... but should I pay for the EMS shipping? Actually, Shipping is like 19 bucks on these bad boys! that makes this converter $30+!!! are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I'm keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think...)
  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,558
    Sony Dual Shock - No issues

    Thanks for the review and confirmation it works with PS1 DS. I'll pick this up and try it out with SF4 and MAME. Description says it works with dancepads so I'll test it with StepMania as well. PS3 isn't b/c however and I don't have VF5 so I can't test any PS2 games.

    PS button on converter is good enough for me. I play PS3 with a Logitech controller and only use the DS3 for the home button so I'm not worried about the no up+select option or rumble support.
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I'm keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think...)
    The Sumoto converter is $15 shipped on eBay and supports digital PCBs. I'd go that route since you'll probably also receive it sooner.
    I'd be interested to know your updated findings on the PS2->360 converters whenever you end up doing your tests.
    Sure thing. I'll pick up one of these whenever my stick sells (shameless plug :nono:). I'm a little short on cash otherwise from working on my Saturn to PS2/360 pads. I wish everything would get in already so I could start on those.
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  • TwinnissTwinniss Joined: Posts: 785
    Sumoto looks like a better converter to me and looks promising, just wish i could get a markman review on it now.

    As for the yobo converter, i think i got one around 07. compared to the pelican things just feel different(with inputs n stuff). perhaps theres lag on it, but it just feels different
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Sorry to bother you guys, got a lag question, kinda new to adapters. I'm still testing my logic3 adapter with a bunch of friends. Can't say I notice any lag offline, with a ps1 Hori or Namco stick, (most fadc combo's work nicely in training) the problem is when I take it online. For some reason, I whiffed a lot of moves (backthrow-ultra whiffed 5 times) when the connection seemed fine. Is it possible to notice stick lag during online only? I'd imagine I'd notice it during offline, too.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Sorry to bother you guys, got a lag question, kinda new to adapters. I'm still testing my logic3 adapter with a bunch of friends. Can't say I notice any lag offline, with a ps1 Hori or Namco stick, (most fadc combo's work nicely in training) the problem is when I take it online. For some reason, I whiffed a lot of moves (backthrow-ultra whiffed 5 times) when the connection seemed fine. Is it possible to notice stick lag during online only? I'd imagine I'd notice it during offline, too.

    I don't THINK there would be an issue, but timing is so much more critical in a player match than a cpu match maybe you were feeling some lag? Then again playing online can change the timing of a match too... that's why my first test is play for at least an hour with the converter and see if I enjoy the game... because if it lags, I won't!!
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    I don't THINK there would be an issue, but timing is so much more critical in a player match than a cpu match maybe you were feeling some lag?
    Yeah, I'm thinking it's psychological as well. The converter isn't actually working differently online vs not. It's just converting signals and doing its little electronic magic. It's not smart enough to selectively screw you over.
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  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,230
    I've seen three or four posts saying that it did not work. It's possible they all had the green pcb. Hopefully someone can confirm this.

    I got 2 yellow PCB SFAC sticks that I used the inpin converter on and it worked fine for me. Maybe we can get another confirmation from some more yellow PCB SFAC stick users with the inpin.

    Does anybody have any experience with the Total Control 3 Saturn to Dreamcast converter? I want to use it for Saturn Twin Stick use on Dreamcast and Sega Saturn HSS-130 and HSS-136 conversion for dreamcast use. thanks for this thread btw, phenomenal work
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  • NitroxNitrox Joined: Posts: 61
    Hey all
    I kinda need some help...
    I bought a TAC converter, might have been a bad idea...

    So I plug it in, turn on the ps3, and the buttons are all wonky
    Left does nothing, up and down work fine, but right acts as 'x'
    All 6 attack buttons are mixed up
    But start and select work just fine, and if you press 'em at the same time it's a ps button

    Any idea if there's a way to fix what buttons it thinks are what, it wouldn't be a problem if it was just the attack buttons but left and right too!!

    Thanks

    ***Edit***
    Incase anyone has this issue too, don't get frustrated
    I just had to play with the rocker switch and unplug the converter and plug it back in a lot, and it works! I feel like a 'tard
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    Bookmarked.
  • maduhbeemaduhbee Joined: Posts: 128
    does a PS3 > Xbox 360 converter exist yet?
  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,230
    does a PS3 > Xbox 360 converter exist yet?

    Nope
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  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    Oh wow.. I just found out about the shipping time on the HAIS....... 14-17 days!!!!!!! DAMN!
    I don't need it right now anyways.. the wait begins though! lol
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    I got 2 yellow PCB SFAC sticks that I used the inpin converter on and it worked fine for me. Maybe we can get another confirmation from some more yellow PCB SFAC stick users with the inpin.
    Thanks, that's the first I've heard of this so I'll go update.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I'd be shocked if the Sumoto didn't work too. I don't think there's anything it can't do!
  • JeremyXGamingJeremyXGaming Joined: Posts: 44
    Has anyone tested this model of HAIS adapter?

    http://tinyurl.com/ccyomf
  • TruckasaurusTruckasaurus SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY! Joined: Posts: 1,230
    I'm still researching on this EMS Total control 3 Saturn to Dreamcast converter. There are a couple of reviews for it on play-asia.com

    http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-h5-77-1-49-en-15-total+control-70-46.html

    I'll just post the cliff notes:
    -VMU port does not work
    -Maps L/R triggers to C/Z buttons (correctly)
    -And should be compatible with Twin Sticks

    Anyone have any first hand experience with this converter? I'll probably just end up getting it myself and give my experience
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  • Q.R.Q.R. yo Joined: Posts: 457
    ive searched and searched and havent found any clear answer to whether or not the HRAP2:SA works perfectly and lagfree and all that good stuff with a total control plus (ps2->dreamcast) converter, anyone have any experience? it says the HRAP2 is compatible but nothing explicitly about the SA version

    thanks
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Ok guys

    I have a SFAC: green pcb inside , V1.1 (not 3.5)

    it does not work with a generic no name ps2-ps3 converter

    i have read these forums over and over and have come to the conclusion that it does NOT work with either the TAC or the dealextreme (HAIs) converter

    any ideas on what WILL work ?

    thanks in advance guys

    note: i have also posted this in the nubytech SFAC thread

    thanks again
  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    What? SFAC green PCB doesn't work with HAIS?? Damn I have one of those in a stick of mine... I'll test it out when I get it and get back to you because I don't recall anyone saying that about them.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    thanks canto

    yeah some ppl have reported some skitzing when pressing the home button??

    thats wat i am gathering from following kyle around :D

    i just wanna get the right converter

    thanks again
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Yep. I'm still trying to gather information on the SFAC. In another thread a guy said that the color of the PCB didn't matter so much as the voltage on it. I haven't seen anyone say the Yellow PCB didn't work so I'm still going off the colors. He claimed that if the Green PCB says 3.5 next to the system cable then it will work. I just don't have enough info to verify this.

    Edit: I recently had a guy try to sell me a Yellow SFAC PCB. You may want to put up a 'Wanted to Buy' thread in the Trading Outlet to get one of these. It should be a cheap and easy swap.
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  • aggrastataggrastat Motion Wave Gun Joined: Posts: 316
    Has anyone tested this model of HAIS adapter?

    http://tinyurl.com/ccyomf

    I'd try it, where to buy?
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    ive got a yellow pcb.... i bought a no name converter which didnt work. i was advised on here that the tac would deffo work. it responds a bit, but the buttons act weird and it doesnt go lest. any ideas guys???????
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