"Put down the Flowchart, Scrub!" Ken Video Thread

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  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    i have 2 local tourneys this month 1 on the 5th and another on the 13th. i will get as many vids as i can as for I'm going to wmf on the 24th and i know my skill level isn't up to par. so after vids are posted any advice/tips are appreciated. atm I'm working on offense... using tatsus instead of f.srk i feel like corner carry is very useful and ken doenst get much corner pressure without the tatsu to push him there..
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    beesuit wrote: »

    still can't get this consistently and its bugging the fuck out of me cuz on trade mp dp id rather air ex tatsu for damage/stun/corner carry. have you gotten it often? more practice is needed i guess or maybe I'm doing it wrong.
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Joutai wrote: »

    you have a special place in the ken army.. thx for the vids/tech
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    beesuit wrote: »

    the trick is to plink the kick on the down back.... thx
  • ShineboxShinebox Joined: Posts: 2,689
    Damn it. Joon vs Chris wasn't streamed. Joon put him in losers.

    Glad to see you making it out to WNF Joon!
  • JoutaiJoutai Some Ken Player Joined: Posts: 644
    edited September 2014
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Wtf... looks cool. But not gonna matter if it not gonna be used in tournament
  • beesuitbeesuit Joined: Posts: 3,620
    edited September 2014
    Chris G, Chris WNF, Snake Eyez top 3
  • JoutaiJoutai Some Ken Player Joined: Posts: 644
    Omega Ryu and Ken at 25:35

  • G77G77 Master Theory Fighter! Joined: Posts: 876
    If that EX uppercut is invincible on start up, Ken is going to be awesome!!!

    Neutral jumping Yun's are gonna get wrecked!!!!!!!!!!

    Is this the Ken we've all been crying for?

    Peace,

    G.
  • Intuitive2011Intuitive2011 Cr.Mk XX Hadoken Joined: Posts: 3,644




    Hey guys, would the above OSes be practical in a real match?
    "Often times, a loss will strengthen and benefit the player more than a win, so I would say don't be afraid of losing and keeping competing." ~Infiltration
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    1st 1 looks good. 2nd one not so much imo.. too much meter
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    edited September 2014
    couple matches of me in most recent tourney. more are being uploaded i will edit post...

  • Intuitive2011Intuitive2011 Cr.Mk XX Hadoken Joined: Posts: 3,644
    lilsicx66 wrote: »
    1st 1 looks good. 2nd one not so much imo.. too much meter

    Is it not worth spending the meter for so much damage? I haven't tested it, but I think he could catch back dashes with EX SRK or EX Tatsu.
    "Often times, a loss will strengthen and benefit the player more than a win, so I would say don't be afraid of losing and keeping competing." ~Infiltration
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    If it was going to kill sure go for it.. plus u1 juggle in the corner.. but meaty step kick vs rog aint too safe. But I could see it being useful against others in the cast. I just dont like bruning super lol. Rather os and ultra or sweep or burn 1 meter
  • Intuitive2011Intuitive2011 Cr.Mk XX Hadoken Joined: Posts: 3,644
    Here's an updated OS for you :)
    Also, isn't F+MK meaty safe on block?

    "Often times, a loss will strengthen and benefit the player more than a win, so I would say don't be afraid of losing and keeping competing." ~Infiltration
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Meaty step kick isnt safe against rog. Thats the main reason why I don't like it. But to each his own. Thx for sharing. Im still gonna practice it tho just to have it in my game.
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Rather c.lk os sweep or os kara throw. It beats wakeup headbutt. But loses to ex hesdbutt and his ex dash punches
  • Intuitive2011Intuitive2011 Cr.Mk XX Hadoken Joined: Posts: 3,644
    @lilsicx66‌
    Thanks for the advice. I'm not really a SF4 player but these OS's seemed interesting to me. Also, your Ken is always fun to watch. Here's hoping I'll see you use those OS's. :smile:
    "Often times, a loss will strengthen and benefit the player more than a win, so I would say don't be afraid of losing and keeping competing." ~Infiltration
  • JoutaiJoutai Some Ken Player Joined: Posts: 644
    Momochi against Kim's Bison.

  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Watched that earlier. Momochi frustrates me when he switches to juri and loses
  • jebopjebop Joined: Posts: 6,890
    I never want to see these two play each other again. I can't take watching Ken vs Bison at high level, it's too emotional for me. I play both.

    I can't tell if Momochi thinks Juri will do better in some situations, or he's doing the whole "I bet they don't have experience" thing.
    Making man children cry on this forum is way too easy.
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Marc vs LilSicx WINNERS FINALS (TapEx USF4 Tourna…:

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    Marc vs LilSicx GRAND FINALS (TapEx USF4 Tourname…:
  • ShineboxShinebox Joined: Posts: 2,689
    jebop wrote: »
    I never want to see these two play each other again. I can't take watching Ken vs Bison at high level, it's too emotional for me. I play both.

    I can't tell if Momochi thinks Juri will do better in some situations, or he's doing the whole "I bet they don't have experience" thing.

    Kim plays KichijojiKen and Yossan all the time.

  • TarekTarek Joined: Posts: 228
    When ever i play a Bison which plays lame like the way Kim123 did. The match instantly becomes 9-1 Bisons favour.
  • Takamura13Takamura13 FADC flowchart Joined: Posts: 198
    Me(Ken) vs Essex(Evil Ryu) set on XBL EU
  • PhiloernicPhiloernic Joined: Posts: 122
    Tarek wrote: »
    When ever i play a Bison which plays lame like the way Kim123 did. The match instantly becomes 9-1 Bisons favour.
    I feel the same way. The truth is that ken has a slight advantage over dictator. I am not exactly sure why, maybe because dictator wakeup is weak to OS.
    So the point is don't give up and beat those sobs.
  • PhiloernicPhiloernic Joined: Posts: 122
    lilsicx66 wrote: »
    Meaty step kick isnt safe against rog. Thats the main reason why I don't like it. But to each his own. Thx for sharing. Im still gonna practice it tho just to have it in my game.
    lilsicx66 wrote: »
    Rather c.lk os sweep or os kara throw. It beats wakeup headbutt. But loses to ex hesdbutt and his ex dash punches

    Why isnt meaty step kick safe it's -2 on block with 5 active frames meaning you can make it go up to +2 on block max? Or you meant Boxer wakes up with headbutt/armor alot? Just a bit confused because then meaty step isnt safe vs anybody. Also why choose meaty stepkick os instead of something like meaty c.mp? Is it because of the slight forward movement on no-hit that lets the srk connect, or does it give better timing?
    The problem is midscreen i see the OS hitting the backdash with only 1 hit, that isnt enough payoff even if KD, ~30/50 dmg for a read with risk is :/ seems good in the corner tho.

    so to beat ex headbutt ex dash wakeups, is delay throw to beat ex headbutts/ex dashstraight am I right...NO i checked... the ex headbutt startup is 12 frames...so theres no delay OSing this only blocking...but then he gets to wake up with normals or back away...
    Hmm how do you get advantage on balrog's wakeup ambiguous jumpin...makes him blow a meter on armor thats all i can do...
    How good a safe jumps here again...probably good just I'm not a safejumper cuz i screw up too much...but it might be the best vs balrog...

    break

    On the otherside boxer can go to block delay tech to shut down ken's safe stuff...hmm but all characters can...OK the problem is balrogs weird hitbox and pushback makes my strings on him feel weird which makes him a harder matchup than he should be...the solution is to shorten block strings by a jab or so, and get an advantage off his jabs he tries to sneak in...prob tight traps.

    sorry this is how i think as i type help me ty.




  • TarekTarek Joined: Posts: 228
    edited September 2014
    Philoernic wrote: »
    Tarek wrote: »
    When ever i play a Bison which plays lame like the way Kim123 did. The match instantly becomes 9-1 Bisons favour.
    I feel the same way. The truth is that ken has a slight advantage over dictator. I am not exactly sure why, maybe because dictator wakeup is weak to OS.
    So the point is don't give up and beat those sobs.

    You are wrong. Chris Tatarian even confirmed that this match up is in definitely in bisons favour. Bison has a bazillion options on wake up to say F*ck your OS and delayed wake up made life even easier for Bison in USF4 because OS in general are more risky. One of the main reasons why Daigo dropped Ryu.
  • Takamura13Takamura13 FADC flowchart Joined: Posts: 198
    bison beats all shoto's 6-4 imo his toolset is a good counter to them and the ex scissor buff really shuts down fireballs now again thats just my opinion
  • TarekTarek Joined: Posts: 228
    Takamura13 wrote: »
    bison beats all shoto's 6-4 imo his toolset is a good counter to them and the ex scissor buff really shuts down fireballs now again thats just my opinion

    I agree.
  • JoutaiJoutai Some Ken Player Joined: Posts: 644
    Kichi playing against Air on stream. I'll update the post later when it's archived.

  • ShineboxShinebox Joined: Posts: 2,689
    Who is VotingAxe32 on XBL and why is he so godlike?
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242

    me vs ibuki 19;50
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    edited October 2014

    vs sagat at 3:10
    and grand finals at 35:35
  • G77G77 Master Theory Fighter! Joined: Posts: 876
    Watching you play sicx is making me want to plug my 360 back in. Love your Ken so much. You make it look effortless!!

    GG's dude.

    Peace,

    G.
  • lilsicx66lilsicx66 Joined: Posts: 1,242
    Agh im trying to get good again. I appreciate the kind words but my competition wasnt the greatest
  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Architect Joined: Posts: 5,531
    lilsicx66 wrote: »
    Agh im trying to get good again. I appreciate the kind words but my competition wasnt the greatest

    Since you're very good at playing Street Fighter, may I ask you a couple of questions in terms of execution?
    CFN: NaughtySenpai
  • TuesdayAgainTuesdayAgain Joined: Posts: 194
    uh the Shoto matchup has always been frustrating, just messing around here







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