Street Fighter IV Match Videos: Top Players (+ 2009 US & World Champ Vids)

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  • BentoBoxBentoBox Bop Alloy Joined: Posts: 668
    Thanks!

    Any idea how to embed the videos from that site with the Sakura vids you linked?
    Also, anyone have any idea what the source of the material is?

    I plan to add console character pages once I have enough top player match vids to fill out a page.
    Until then, I will be adding console character matchups against characters that already have pages. (under the pages of those characters; ex. Seth has a match vid under Ryu)

    I would love to refine/add to my "top player" lists for each character.
    Currently I am following a VERY conservative method to selecting top videos and top player names to add.
    I plan to add names from the PSN and XBLA at some point. (I want to give it some time after their player matchup patch hits)
    I plan to add US/Other names after EVO.

    That "Top SF4 players" link you sent was actually my thread. :)
    I put that up with the hope of posting what I had researched as top players and then using the community resources to edit the list.
    SRK actually ending up closing the thread. :/

    I don't know how to embed those videos so alternatively you could just download the vids and work from there:
    hey guys because i know registering for things is a pain i thought i post them as links for easier access.

    match 1
    match 2

    there flv that i just nabbed off the site. same one that Golden_Gunman posted. great vids. you can play them in an flv player or vlc that is unless someone knows how to embed these.

    And its a shame your thread had to close down :P I was actually thinking of creating a similar thread~
    Only dead fish swim with the stream~
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553

    The first two links are not working for me. (the ... in them is actually showing up in the url)

    Do you know how to embed the footage from the third link?

    I'd love to include such matches, but I don't know how to embed the image.

    Thanks for the vids!
    streetfighterdojo.com - video library of top players
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    Godlike page, really :D.

    And about the match results. You could make the font color of the results the same as the background color. So that if someone want's to see the results he/she needs to highlight the text.

    Just an idea though :P.

    I made the page with the idea of giving players a resource to improve their game.
    You get beatdown by a raving Balrog? Head to the page and check out how top players handle your shoes: how do they start the round, what spacing do they work to maintain, are they aggressive or do they turtle, how do they set-up and deliver damage, what moves do they use as counters to opponent attack set-ups, etc.
    So I made the match results show up on the page to make it easier for players to scan the matches for ones in which they can be assured their character wins/loses/trades, depending on what they want

    But I also understand and appreciate that many players are looking to these videos as an enjoyment of the game.
    And getting to experience the videos without spoilers is HUGE.

    Changing the match text color and changing the background color will also reomove info like "top players" and title of the video.
    I can make separate pages and manually delete those sections to make it work.
    Or perhaps there is a way to add html code that allows that info to be hidden and players click on it to expand?
    My HTML is still very limited, but I am hoping to grow it in line with the site.

    I DO want to offer the videos without match spoilers as an option.
    But I don't see it getting fixed in the short term.
    For now, you gotta resort to shrinking the window so that text is cut off from view. :/

    But I appreciate the input, and definitely put a higher priority on issues like this that are a VERY common want among players.

    Thanks!
    streetfighterdojo.com - video library of top players
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    AWESOME.



    I for one would. Some characters you might never get to that point, so might as well show what you have.

    Makes sense.
    And I DO need to get those character pages done anyway.

    I will start work on those character pages and put them up.

    Also, if ANYONE has an image on Fei Long on his select screen (like the ones I have where you choose character/oppoenent), please send if to me. (link it or email)
    Otherwise I'm gonna have to try to create one in MSPaint/PS.
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  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    ...
    About the results thing, can you code it like how spoilers work here?

    Just a thought, I know almost nothing about HTML coding.
    This is the example.

    Looks tight!

    I looked at the html source trying to figure out the code.
    Looks like I'll have to play around with it.
    Also, manually adding it to each match in each page will be rough.
    So I gotta figure out some way to add such things across multiple pages/vids without doing each by hand.

    HUGE thanks for that info though.
    streetfighterdojo.com - video library of top players
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    This is a great site. I think you should just delete the links that are more than 4 months old. Matches from 2008 are barely relevant anymore. The level of play has just risen that much.

    Outdating makes sense, especially on such a new game.

    I will be time stamping new vids as I post them. (ex. http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/ken_vs_gouken.html)
    And I will be going back over older vids and time stamping them time permitting.

    I would also like to continue develop player viewing options so they can sort the vids by date, player, etc.

    Due to time spent getting pages/vids/features up and my low (but growing) html skills, I plan to be growing these pages to include all these great ideas over time.

    But I TOTALLY agree that obsolete play is A STEP BACK in my goal of providing top video content for players to pull from.
    streetfighterdojo.com - video library of top players
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    Great site...but too bad I've seen a lot of these already...

    Really looking forward to seeing high level players using console chars ....especially Fei Long, Gouken, Gen and Seth =)

    http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/ryu_vs_feilong.html

    http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/ken_vs_gouken.html

    http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/ryu_vs_gen.html
    http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/ken_vs_gen.html

    http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/ryu_vs_seth.html
    http://streetfighterdojo.com/sf4/matchups/chunli_vs_seth.html

    That's a small start.

    I will add more as they show up.
    And hopefully before too long they'll be filling up their own pages. :)
    streetfighterdojo.com - video library of top players
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    Great site...but too bad I've seen a lot of these already...

    If you're just interested in the vids to see SF play, then I hear ya.

    But if you are looking to use them as a player aid, then I HIGHLY recommend using them as a resource over and over.

    I compiled the M. Bison data on the ST side of this site as a tool to learn/develop M. Bison for ST and the (then) upcoming release of HD Remix.
    At the start, my ST M. Bison was very noobish.
    But I used the vids (and other data like combos I found and saved the links to) to develop my understanding of what to do in each matchup:
    1) how to start the round
    2) do I rushdown, hardcore turtle, contain, pressure/poke? (whose corner do they end the round in? if it's the opponent's, then your character is probably aggressive)
    3) how do I set-up and deliver damage to this character
    4) how does my opponent set-up and deliver damage
    5) what is my opponents ideal range and how do I avoid being in it
    etc.

    So I would play GGPO ST, lose to a particular character, and then load up my vids and use my emotion from the loss to scour the vids for ways to tighten up my game.
    And now my HD Remix M. Bison is very solid, and I'm Ranked 15th with him on XBLA.
    Good times.

    One reason I think Japanese players do so well is that they have an AMAZING peer playgroup to play against.
    They can just walk up to other top players in a match and watch them perform, and they can learn from that.
    In many ways, these vids are like a virtual arcade, where you can walk from one match to the next and learn from top players that you just don't have real access too.
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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,702
    If you're just interested in the vids to see SF play, then I hear ya.

    But if you are looking to use them as a player aid, then I HIGHLY recommend using them as a resource over and over.

    I compiled the M. Bison data on the ST side of this site as a tool to learn/develop M. Bison for ST and the (then) upcoming release of HD Remix.
    At the start, my ST M. Bison was very noobish.
    But I used the vids (and other data I found) to develop my understanding of what to do in each matchup:
    1) how to start the round
    2) do I rushdown, hardcore turtle, contain, pressure/poke? (whose corner do they end the round in? if it's the opponent's, then your character is probably aggressive)
    3) how do I set-up and deliver damage to this character
    4) how does my opponent set-up and deliver damage
    5) what is my opponents ideal range and how do I avoid being in it
    etc.

    So I would play GGPO ST, lose to a particular character, and then load up my vids and use my emotion from the loss to scour the vids for ways to tighten up my game.
    And now my HD Remix M. Bison is very solid, and I'm Ranked 15th with him on XBLA.
    Good times.

    One reason I think Japanese players do so well is that they have an AMAZING peer playgroup to play against.
    They can just walk up to other top players in a match and watch them perform, and they can learn from that.
    In many ways, these vids are like a virtual arcade, where you can walk from one match to the next and learn from top players that you just don't have real access too.


    now i remember who you are! yeah man, we played a few times on hd remix and you always gave me the beatdowns with that bison of yours... thats how i remember your name.



    anyways i just wanted to say that your site is AWESOME, exactly what ive been waiting for... i'm sure the japs have sites like yours... prob is of course, that they're in japanese. also, i watch these vids the same way that you watch the bison vids... as a learning tool... maybe you could make up some that you would think might serve to help players to better understand certain fundamentals, like i learned ALOT about when to throw tigershots and when not to/ spacing them etc. by watching this vid of RF's sagat:











    one thing to notice here is that RF is playing against people arent up to his skill level, but are definitely good players. i've found that players of this type usually jump FORWARD over every fireball that they can... but the problem is that, in the highest level jap vids top players jump STRAIGHT UP over fireballs most of the time. so i could figure out how to play aginst those types of players theoretically, but not how to play against the aggressive jumpers... which this video does PERFECTLY. RF rarely does fireball then another immediate fireball, which he does do against top players... that one insight taught me alot. and seeing RF's fireball cadence against these weaker people i think will help out other people who have never mained a fireball character.






    just my .02






    -dime
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Get a job...

    I'm fucking with you, thanks for the effort..
  • dogfacedogface Peke Suto Joined: Posts: 1,241
    Great resource!
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    now i remember who you are! yeah man, we played a few times on hd remix and you always gave me the beatdowns with that bison of yours... thats how i remember your name.

    Yup, that's me. :)
    anyways i just wanted to say that your site is AWESOME, exactly what ive been waiting for... i'm sure the japs have sites like yours... prob is of course, that they're in japanese. also, i watch these vids the same way that you watch the bison vids... as a learning tool... maybe you could make up some that you would think might serve to help players to better understand certain fundamentals, like i learned ALOT about when to throw tigershots and when not to/ spacing them etc. by watching this vid of RF's sagat:



    one thing to notice here is that RF is playing against people arent up to his skill level, but are definitely good players. i've found that players of this type usually jump FORWARD over every fireball that they can... but the problem is that, in the highest level jap vids top players jump STRAIGHT UP over fireballs most of the time. so i could figure out how to play aginst those types of players theoretically, but not how to play against the aggressive jumpers... which this video does PERFECTLY. RF rarely does fireball then another immediate fireball, which he does do against top players... that one insight taught me alot. and seeing RF's fireball cadence against these weaker people i think will help out other people who have never mained a fireball character.

    AWESOME insight!

    It's HUGE to understand that you tackle different skilled opponents differently.
    Some players you can simply go for the jugular and put them down fast.
    Other players you need to set-up for your attack and sidestep their traps as you edge your way to the win.

    And having footage of top players playing against people of the varying skill levels goes a long way to showcase this.

    For the best results, you want to employ the most effective means to secure the win.
    If your opponent isn't a top player, you should move on that to put the match away and limit your risks.
    Even a less skilled opponent can be dangerous if you play a set-up or defensive game that gives them more time to pull something out.

    With M. Bison on Remix, if the opponent isn't defending well, I want to knock them out with a Touch Of Death Combo.
    Letting them survive longer in the match just gives them more chances to land something or build up meter to become a huge wildcard threat.
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  • fobi0fobi0 YEAH ME TOO!!! Joined: Posts: 3,108
    -snip-


    Long live the Dictator. :badboy::badboy::badboy:
    You bad...
  • FerociousWillFerociousWill ..not very ferocious Joined: Posts: 83
    This website is good shit!
  • DanSCDanSC Joined: Posts: 608
    do you have any recent fight? great site btw..
  • DarkstalkerDarkstalker King of the Ring Joined: Posts: 2,470 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Looks tight!

    I looked at the html source trying to figure out the code.
    Looks like I'll have to play around with it.
    Also, manually adding it to each match in each page will be rough.
    So I gotta figure out some way to add such things across multiple pages/vids without doing each by hand.

    HUGE thanks for that info though.

    The way I figure it, if you can implement it, the initial stages of putting the code in will be hell. After that you can copy and paste for any new vids.

    The advantage to having just a box that appears would be you don't have to code in preferences, and it allows us to see results on a match by match basis.

    Glad you like the idea, hope you can pull it off.
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  • Bojador_ptBojador_pt Joined: Posts: 420
    The first two links are not working for me. (the ... in them is actually showing up in the url)

    Do you know how to embed the footage from the third link?

    I'd love to include such matches, but I don't know how to embed the image.

    Thanks for the vids!

    Sry about that:

    http://www.getyourtournament.com/multimedia/2008/12/video-94-moval-vs-alex-valle-round-1.html

    http://www.getyourtournament.com/multimedia/2008/12/video-94-moval-vs-alex-valle-round-2.html

    There's a lot more videos in this website with high level players. I don't know how to embed this videos. Maybe someone else can help?

    If there's no way to embed maybe you can put the link instead. I know it's not the original idea having links but it's a shame to leave good vids out because of this.
    www.ptfighters.com

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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    That website is freaking sweet, my man! Awesome work......Would rep you if I coudl!!!!!!!!
  • PskellyPskelly Akuma in training Joined: Posts: 106
    Thanks a lot for posting such a great resource. I'm going to be watching this videos at work for quite some time. :-)
  • n0thingmann0thingman Nothin Joined: Posts: 608
    In the Fuerte vs guile vid, you have the players labeled dagger_g and kai

    that fuerte player in the vid is actually me- its not kai
    thats me playing dagger_g in the losers bracket of california regionals at denjin
    nothing is eternal.
    i am nothing.
  • VeeArSixVeeArSix Joined: Posts: 34
    excellent collection of vids.
    Thanks
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Excellent write up zaspacer, thank you!

    Wish I could give some +rep.
  • thxyoutoothxyoutoo Hard Bodied Hardbody Joined: Posts: 2,509
    Amazing resource. Keep it up!
    gracias y tu tambien
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    And its a shame your thread had to close down :P I was actually thinking of creating a similar thread~

    Go for it :)

    Having a list of top players is a great resource.
    And posting it on SRK forums lets you both make it public for others as well as tap into the great knowledge pool that is the SRK community.

    I pulled my list almost exclusively from Japanese Arcade rankings, with some names added based on major tournament finishes.

    I think it's better to be overly conservative and leave names off, than it is to end up with a list that has names that don't represent the very top of competitive play.

    But you can approach it however works for you. :)
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  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    I've added these links to each characters' page in the wiki under their Matchups sections.

    Awesome!!

    Big THANKS :)
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  • n0thingmann0thingman Nothin Joined: Posts: 608
    zaspacer, thats really me :(
    nothing is eternal.
    i am nothing.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Great site! But do you have to list the winners next to it? It kinda takes some of the excitement away from watching it. Maybe you could do it like this board's spoiler code, where it appears when you click it.
    Winners.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    that fuerte player in the vid is actually me- its not kai
    zaspacer, thats really me :(

    My apologies n0thingman.
    I did read your edit and did plan to update the info for the "Kai (El Fuerte) vs. Dagger_G (Guile)" to "N0thingman (El Fuerte) vs. Dagger_G (Guile)".

    I've been tied up working on a Fei Long Select image so I can add a link on the Ken page to the Ken vs. Fei Long matchup I have.

    I'll go ahead and update it now. :)
    Again, sorry for the hold-up.
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  • NateSNateS Joined: Posts: 169
    I like to be surprised by watching the video also. Maybe make the spoiler hidden by default? Also would be great to be able to comment on individual videos.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Man those are nice. Gotta learn ma Sagat in and out then practice the c.viper.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    The way I figure it, if you can implement it, the initial stages of putting the code in will be hell. After that you can copy and paste for any new vids.

    The advantage to having just a box that appears would be you don't have to code in preferences, and it allows us to see results on a match by match basis.

    Glad you like the idea, hope you can pull it off.
    I like to be surprised by watching the video also. Maybe make the spoiler hidden by default? Also would be great to be able to comment on individual videos.
    Great site! But do you have to list the winners next to it? It kinda takes some of the excitement away from watching it. Maybe you could do it like this board's spoiler code, where it appears when you click it.
    Winners.

    There has been a lot of interest in having the videos without the spoilers.
    And the set-ups Darkstalker and KevinCow proposed look really neat.

    So I do plan on setting up pages without the spoilers.
    And I will start tinkering with figuring out the html to set it up, and then exploring the best way to get it into the code.

    But...
    1) I am going to keep mirror pages with the results showing. It really was essential in my own learning process to be able to find the best videos to tighten my game. Being able to select videos where one character or the other is winning is key to that.
    2) It will take some time to implement. There are already 184 different character html matchup pages, and there will be more when I add all the console matches. I need to go back to the old content and edit all of it for mirror non-spoiler or click-to-see-spoiled pages.

    For now, the ghetto method of shrinking the screen to cut off the spoiler text is the way to do it.
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  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    Super awesome site. It's just gonna get better and better too. You are missing Mike Ross on the EHonda page though. Tons of vids on him out there. Thanks for makin it man.

    I've had my eye on Mike's vids for some time.

    But I've been very reluctant to add any non-Japanese tourney footage unless it's from a decent sized tourney or I could get some numbers on the player performing high in decent sized tourney... or I just didn't have any footage on a particular matchup and needed what seemed likely the best available.

    Mike has JUST been under a couple of those criteria, so I haven't had him on.
    I think he may have a vid or two under some of the criteria.

    Bottom line is that until I can improve my own ability to recognize top players, I am gonna rely on a very conservative procedure to get player footage onto the site.
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  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    do you have any recent fight? great site btw..

    Thanks! :)

    I do have some recent footage (well, recently posted on youtube.com anyway; late March, etc.)

    Some of it is on the site, but it is mixed in so that it's hard to pick out from the rest.
    Other recent vids I have processed onto the spreadsheet I work off of, but I haven't gotten time to put up on the site; (sidetracked trying to work on a Fei Long Select image and put character pages together for the console characters and finish my taxes) but they should be up very soon.

    I also have started tagging new vids I put up with a date tag, which will make it so that players can pick out the vid by date.
    Right now I plan to provide "date recorded" or (if that is not available) "date posted".

    The order that the vids appear on the page is determined by the skill levels of the players involved.
    But I will start using date as a secondary sorting criteria within each skill tier.
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  • bokchoibokchoi Beast Mode Joined: Posts: 97
    Great site. Easy way to consolidate SFIV vids. Thank you for doing this!!
  • n0thingmann0thingman Nothin Joined: Posts: 608
    awesome,
    now everyone knows how badly he beat me
    awesome site btw!
    nothing is eternal.
    i am nothing.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Joined: Posts: 553
    There's a lot more videos in this website with high level players. I don't know how to embed this videos. Maybe someone else can help?

    If there's no way to embed maybe you can put the link instead. I know it's not the original idea having links but it's a shame to leave good vids out because of this.

    I TOTALLY agree with you.
    It would be a shame to leave good vids out of it.

    Time permitting, I will try to figure out how to embed them.
    Or, if I can't, I'll try to find some way to incorporate them.

    Great links though, BIG thanks!

    Also, with the release of the Championship Mode, hopefully we'll get a front row seat on more top players as they duel on PSN/XBLA.
    Especially with those console characters!
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  • armaganarmagan Joined: Posts: 70
    You should add a "Submit Video" form. There're tons of good videos out there.
  • DrAg0nBoYDrAg0nBoY Joined: Posts: 46
    I TOTALLY agree with you.
    It would be a shame to leave good vids out of it.

    Time permitting, I will try to figure out how to embed them.
    Or, if I can't, I'll try to find some way to incorporate them.

    Great links though, BIG thanks!

    Also, with the release of the Championship Mode, hopefully we'll get a front row seat on more top players as they duel on PSN/XBLA.
    Especially with those console characters!

    I don't know if you saw this, but the page Bojador_pt posted has it's own youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/getyourtournament.

    I think this helps you to embend the videos to your site. If not, sorry for bothering :P.

    edit: As for the third link Bojador_pt posted in his 1. post. I can download it, and upload to youtube, if you want. Just say it.

    edit2: I think this could also be helpful: http://www.youtube.com/user/lordaborigine Theres probably also the video Bojador_pt posted in his first post.
  • dogfacedogface Peke Suto Joined: Posts: 1,241
    Do you guys know what today is?

    http://shoryuken.com/?p=1086#more-1086
  • J RekkerJ Rekker Learning Gouki Joined: Posts: 26
    Saqs is a good rose player. Seen some of his vids up on youtube.
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