KOF XII - Leona thread

X20ASTRIKEFREEDOMX20ASTRIKEFREEDOM Aka. Kusanagi-StyleJoined: Posts: 809
Leona Heidern
Fighting Style : Martial arts + Heidern-style assasination techniques
Birthdate : 10th January
Nationality : Unknown
Blood Group : B+
Height : 176 cm
Weight : 66 kg
Likes : None
Fav. Food : Vegetables
Strong Sports : None
Important Things : None
Hated Things : Blood

THROW
Leona Crush: close, b or f + A + C

COMMAND MOVES
Strike Arch: f + B

SPECIAL MOVES
Baltic Launcher: b~f + P
Moon Slasher: d~u + P
Earring Bakudan: qcb + K
Grand Saber (Idou): b~f + B (Urashi Idou) or D (Zen)
Grand Saber (Hanten): Grand Saber, B (Zen) or D (Urashi Idou)
Grand Saber (Kougeki): Grand Saber, P
X-Caliber: qcb + P in air

DESPERATION MOVE
V-Slasher: qcf,hcb + P in air
Villains

[Krax - lvl 30] [Scyfher - lvl 30] [Psycho Frame - lvl 30]
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  • SAB-CASAB-CA Not the Super Argentine Backbreaker! Joined: Posts: 1,106
    Wow, that's a nice amount of variation on Grand Saber. Expecially considering I've not seen anyone really USE the move effectively in all the Leona play in these videos.

    So she can run forward and slash, and she also has a backrun of some sort, right? What do all the variations do?

    I like her amount of aerial control in this game, from what I've seen. This looks to be one of the most aggressive X-Caliber variations yet, and it seems much more versatile than the :d:~:u: style she had for the move in 98.

    I'll miss Rebel Spark (Sayonara.... -BOOM!!-), but V-Slasher looks just as wonderful as ever here. Earring Bakudan actually looks like it has a small bit more speed than usual, which sounds good, and I get the feeling her Baltic Launcher will be a fantastic thing for her to use in CC's, and could be good Clash-Bait for Burn Knuckle crazy Terry, or an aggressive Robert, or Joe.

    Oh, and Moon Slasher looks beautiful here. The actual image of the moon within the slash is strikingly slick. Reminds me of games where Joe Higashi actually had the image of tigers in his Tiger/Slash Kicks...
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  • krazykone123krazykone123 4D Joined: Posts: 2,851
    Hope she retains V-Slasher combos, that and she's not wearing her jacket good on ya SNKP :tup:
  • X20ASTRIKEFREEDOMX20ASTRIKEFREEDOM Aka. Kusanagi-Style Joined: Posts: 809
    Hope she retains V-Slasher combos, that and she's not wearing her jacket good on ya SNKP :tup:

    She can still do St.C>fwd.B>V-Slasher
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Hope she retains V-Slasher combos, that and she's not wearing her jacket good on ya SNKP :tup:
    Her costume's completely different in this one though. Remember she used a red shirt underneath with a green tie and green army shorts. I have to agree though that SNKP did it well, she's even more sexy now.
  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    I've got to say I liked the old costume better, but her moves are still stylish as ever.

    Anyways yeah, close d, f+b, v slasher is still intact, plus you can use the x-calibur like a low damage v-slasher. That means d, fwd+b, qcb+P works, although I dunno how the damage stacks up against stuff like d+c, moon slasher.

    Questions for people who've played it already:
    1: still no comboes into saber? (or baltic launcher, hehehe)
    2: does it seem like you could link anything off of her x-caliber combo? (wishful thinking)
    3: any ideas on which combos seem to have higher dmg output? (moon slasher vs x-caliber)

    EDIT: and yes, the rebel spark will be missed.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    St C >CD > A ver. Baltic Launcher > V-Slasher works in corner I think.

    With Grand saber if you do the D version you can alternate beween pressing B & D after while she is running to make her continually change direction of her run.

    So if you do the D version she will start running backwards, if you press B during that run she will change direction & start running forwards & if you press D during that forward run, she will start running backwards again. You can do this for as ong as you want. :lol:
  • SAB-CASAB-CA Not the Super Argentine Backbreaker! Joined: Posts: 1,106
    St C >CD > A ver. Baltic Launcher > V-Slasher works in corner I think.

    With Grand saber if you do the D version you can alternate beween pressing B & D after while she is running to make her continually change direction of her run.

    So if you do the D version she will start running backwards, if you press B during that run she will change direction & start running forwards & if you press D during that forward run, she will start running backwards again. You can do this for as ong as you want. :lol:

    1st: Baltic Launcher in corner combos? I like! XD

    2nd: LoL, so THAT'S how Grand Saber works, eh? LoL, I could see you bating :snkc::snkd: attacks, and then rushing out of range, only to turn and punish after that ^_^ And annoying high-fireball characters (Like Athena and Robert) with it. Sounds fun! Thanks for the info!
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  • Ben ReedBen Reed c. LK is my co-pilot Joined: Posts: 1,010
    What does she have for instant overhead into V-Slasher?
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  • RemxiRemxi Mithan's Robe Joined: Posts: 297
    Can anyone link to some vids that shows some decent level play with Leona? I'm mainly interested in this new Grand Saber and how fast it is to change direction (i.e. is it viable to fake people out by running back/forth).
  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    Instant overhead>v slasher? Can you cancel aerials? I don't think that'll work...it'd be cool tho.

    The saber changes directions instantly, no turning animation or anything. I'm still really trying to figure out how to use it well but, potential is definitely there. Time for some tekken 6 style dancing around trying to bait stuff. Sorry I got no video links.
    TvC Brah
  • Phoenix AzurePhoenix Azure Joined: Posts: 1,115
    Does she still run under regular projectiles still? Cause if it does, then the running back and forth will really put her at an advantage against Robert, Ash, and Athena players.
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  • TooseriusTooserius DVERITAS Joined: Posts: 755
    looks like Leona may be a devastating character
  • TooseriusTooserius DVERITAS Joined: Posts: 755
    is it possible that she may be grabbed as she is turning around or is she granted invincibility in the frames she's turning around?
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    Oh god I can't wait to get my hands on her...
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  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    OK things:

    1st, the saber running is retardedly fast and there are no turn animations. It goes under some projectiles (kensou,Robert?) but not all (Athena). She doesn't have the double knee D, don't try to use it to combo, but her stand D is a really nice anti air.

    Looks like 6B>(214C/2363214C) is the finisher of choice. CCs are fun. You can just hammer on C for a while, then 6B,super. Guard attack is kind of bad. Slow and has some stupidly short range, you can use it tho. Moon slasher is super pro anti hops, be ready to throw it out on reaction to hops and most pressure strings just die.

    She seems to do really well against slower chars (raiden, iori), had a lot of trouble v. Athena.
    TvC Brah
  • SoundatronSoundatron Energon Guzzler Joined: Posts: 518
    well no point for the double knee really w/o Rebel Spark.
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  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    Plus it looks like she's lost the bomb planting, so close D is quite unnecessary... Please, more info, is that her best CC so far? I want to know everything before I even TOUCH kofxii!!

    EDIT: By unnecessary, I mean not as needed as before...
    EDIT2: By not as needed, I mean... ah forget it. Give combos!
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  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    I can't really say about best, but the CC I posted pretty much ain't it. Because of weird floaty properties, my guess is you could maybe hit something to launch, baltic launcher, super at the end. Just a guess tho. I'll try it this weekend some time but I'm bad at baiting CCs so we'll see.

    As far as combos go, I haven't come up w/ anything too interesting, there's old school moon slasher combos like:
    j.C,2a,2a,moon slasher
    j.C,2c,moon slasher
    But it seems like you get more dmg if you use the x-caliber i.e.
    j.C,5C,6B,214C
    j.C,2B,5B,6B,214C(I think it worked like this...I was feeling pretty scrubby tho so execution was less than precise)
    And yeah, replace x-caliber with v-slasher for super combo.

    EDIT: Btw, if you're crouching, you can get a 2 hit anti air combo with 2C,moon slasher for a good chunk of dmg, but you have to time it a hair later than you might want to or the moon slasher can whiff.
    TvC Brah
  • RemxiRemxi Mithan's Robe Joined: Posts: 297
    j.C,2B,5B,6B,214C(I think it worked like this...I was feeling pretty scrubby tho so execution was less than precise)

    EDIT: Btw, if you're crouching, you can get a 2 hit anti air combo with 2C,moon slasher for a good chunk of dmg, but you have to time it a hair later than you might want to or the moon slasher can whiff.

    Nice combo. Is close s.B still like it is in the other games (i.e. she turns around and kicks you in the shin with the back of her boot)?

    Also is that anti air c.C, Moon Slasher on counter hit only?
  • gamingsagegamingsage shoto 4 lyfe Joined: Posts: 210
    Those combos you posted look TOO good. :encore: I wonder if anything special happens in the game if you pick all 3 characters from one team.
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  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    Do you need to charge during the CC? Or is it like Ash's LDM from XI?
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  • RemxiRemxi Mithan's Robe Joined: Posts: 297
    Will Baltic Lancher hit a crouching opponent? Also, what's the difference between the A and C version?
  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    Baltic launcher will not hit a crouching opponent, it'll whiff even on some opponents standing. I dunno what the difference is. Yes you need to charge during the CC. No, the light kick is unfortunately not the backwards shin kick, it's just a little forwards shin kick.
    TvC Brah
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    Is her Baltic Launcher different with A and C? or does she do both stationary now?
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  • BlueTerroristBlueTerrorist Joined: Posts: 37
    What's this?! I so like what I'm hearing right now, looks like I'm gonna be with her for another KOF lol:cool:. Glad she's back, looks better than ever (might be wrong about that but opinions ftw?)

    Gonna miss sticking people with bombs though, love doing that when my opponent is at near death and run off while they panic. Ahh, good times :rock:.
  • scottindscottind Joined: Posts: 1,518
    How do you do her lvl 2 V-Slasher? the v-slasher needs to be done in the air but the CC is on on the ground.
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    How do you do her lvl 2 V-Slasher? the v-slasher needs to be done in the air but the CC is on on the ground.

    Either TK it or hit it after the f+B?
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  • DRXxDRXx Air Lariat+SPD pokes Joined: Posts: 17
    i was just thinking how it would be if they kept the orochi transformation (u, d, u, d, u, d+BD)
    freaking awesome!
    BTW, she's so sexy. Can't wait for the console version. :D
  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    OK based on those scans that got posted up, Leona's best CC goes something like this:

    6B, Moon Slasher x3 (!), V-Slasher

    Enjoy.
    TvC Brah
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    OK based on those scans that got posted up, Leona's best CC goes something like this:

    6B, Moon Slasher x3 (!), V-Slasher

    Enjoy.
    So wait, you don't need to charge during CCs?
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    If they're launched high enough, it'd be possible with charge...

    Unless he meant X-Calibre, since 6B should leave Leona airborne...
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  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    I dunno, I'll try it out next time I'm at the machines. I think oro's right about because launches on CC's are really floaty, the thing that makes me thing proto might be right though is the 6B>moon slasher. I don't know if you'd have enough time to charge down after hitting the 6B to hit that quickly and make it worth it. I could see it though, since you'd have to wait until after she hits the ground again on the 6b before hitting the slasher.
    TvC Brah
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    Does her forward or back dash leave the ground? I do instant V-Slashers out of her backdash in 2k2um when I need to shock someone in my face like a counter
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  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    Back dash does, forward is the old school low down run.
    TvC Brah
  • BlueTerroristBlueTerrorist Joined: Posts: 37
    I played this at Chinatown Fair today. It was awesome, gotta get used to things though. Should I make vids of my Leona when I get the chance? She got me mad victories for me today :tup:.
  • TooseriusTooserius DVERITAS Joined: Posts: 755
    is it possible that she may be grabbed as she is turning around or is she granted invincibility in the frames she's turning around?

    I mean during her running move
  • FatalFuryDFatalFuryD Feint Cancel Addict Joined: Posts: 956
    I played this at Chinatown Fair today. It was awesome, gotta get used to things though. Should I make vids of my Leona when I get the chance? She got me mad victories for me today :tup:.

    Yeah, go for it man. East coast dudes always play things interestingly
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  • yourmotheryourmother 大五 運命腹 Joined: Posts: 1,528
    is it possible that she may be grabbed as she is turning around or is she granted invincibility in the frames she's turning around?

    I mean during her running move

    This has already been asked. I tried to explain, there is no turning animation, she's running one way, then immediately running the other way, so there's no way for her to have invincibility on frames that she doesn't have.
    TvC Brah
  • AnakronAnakron Alpha Male Joined: Posts: 2,391
    yourmother, most of the combos you listed work well. I didn't try the j.C, c.B, s.B, f+B, tkb+C. My problem is her CC's though. Whenever I try doing 6B in it I end up getting her dash. I'll have to give it another go. I found out that you can combo into moon slasher after baltic launcher though.

    Some fun things I like to do are canceling c.B into her command dash backwards and punishing with the follow up. Seems pretty safe on block IF SPACED RIGHT?...
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Is her Baltic Launcher different with A and C? or does she do both stationary now?


    yea there is the A version the orb is next to her and the C version is in the air but she doesn't hop into it like before so it could make for a good anti-air
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