KOF Storyline thread

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I havent been following the new storyline since the conclusion of the NEST saga. All I know is that someone stole the Orochi power or something like that.
The new storyline just doesn't interest me at all so thats why I haven't pay attention to it. The Orochi saga was good, NEST was meh, but the new storyline so far just suck.
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  • Return of ShikiReturn of Shiki Your favorite game sucks Joined: Posts: 4,416
    The storyline they built in 2003 was quite good.

    It's just that in XI they decided to ignore most of it. And then KOF XII ignore nearly all of it.
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  • TooseriusTooserius DVERITAS Joined: Posts: 755
    the new storyline is raw
  • Heero YuyHeero Yuy Livin' On A Prayer Joined: Posts: 22
    The storyline they built in 2003 was quite good.

    It's just that in XI they decided to ignore most of it. And then KOF XII ignore nearly all of it.

    I'm curious. How did they ignore it in XI?
    Seems like Fighting games are back in vogue. With SF IV, KoF XII, SCIV, Tekken 6, VF5, and others, it's a good time to be a fan.
  • ExcelReaverExcelReaver Forever a scrub. Joined: Posts: 253
    Has there really been 11 tournaments? I hope not..Im hoping the current storyline is only around the 3rd-4th tournament.
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  • krazykone123krazykone123 4D Joined: Posts: 2,848
    I'm curious. How did they ignore it in XI?

    Lot's of un-answered questions, most of the ending's in KOF 2003 were left on a cliff hanger because of that, KOFXI was more of a dream match than a story game... I mean it had Geese and MOTW style Terry for God sakes :rofl:

    and yes there's been 11 or so tournaments counting MI (2004), MIRA (2006) along with dream matches 98, 2002 and KOFXI would count as KOF 2005 then include the rest but for some reason KOF XII is XII but not XIII since MIRA should be counted as XII right? :wasted: ah whatever SNKP says goes...
  • Phoenix AzurePhoenix Azure Joined: Posts: 1,115
    The Maximum Impact Series is based in the Fatal Fury Timeline so it goes something like The Fatal Fury Games, the MI games, and then finally, Garou.

    I can go into detail the history of KOF if u want as I can probably write a simple summary.
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  • Return of ShikiReturn of Shiki Your favorite game sucks Joined: Posts: 4,416
    Uh...KOF MI is its own universe, not related to any other SNK timeline.

    Falcoon has said this, because even though the games fit in between the end of FF and the beginning of Garou there are too many other inconsistencies with the other SNK franchises. I believe they only said it in order to assure people that MI is a dreammatch series so that just about anyone they want can show up in the games (Hanzo, Mizoguchi).

    In the KOF timeline, there have only been 9 real tournaments (94-97, 99-2001, 2003-XI) and yet somehow most characters have seemed to stop aging at all after 97'.............

    Maybe I should write a KOF Storyline FAQ, because it seems too many people are confused on the facts (not that I can blame them, the story has gotten way too convoluted and doesn't make much sense anymore).
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  • Heero YuyHeero Yuy Livin' On A Prayer Joined: Posts: 22
    Uh...KOF MI is its own universe, not related to any other SNK timeline.

    Falcoon has said this, because even though the games fit in between the end of FF and the beginning of Garou there are too many other inconsistencies with the other SNK franchises. I believe they only said it in order to assure people that MI is a dreammatch series so that just about anyone they want can show up in the games (Hanzo, Mizoguchi).

    In the KOF timeline, there have only been 9 real tournaments (94-97, 99-2001, 2003-XI) and yet somehow most characters have seemed to stop aging at all after 97'.............

    Maybe I should write a KOF Storyline FAQ, because it seems too many people are confused on the facts (not that I can blame them, the story has gotten way too convoluted and doesn't make much sense anymore).

    It's so damn true about the convolution. I wonder if a true reboot, where we start completely over is in the cards for the future?
    Seems like Fighting games are back in vogue. With SF IV, KoF XII, SCIV, Tekken 6, VF5, and others, it's a good time to be a fan.
  • ExcelReaverExcelReaver Forever a scrub. Joined: Posts: 253
    I find it better just to imagine each story arc as it's own tournament, and not 9 seperate tournaments. That would explain lack of aging better.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    In the KOF timeline, there have only been 9 real tournaments (94-97, 99-2001, 2003-XI) and yet somehow most characters have seemed to stop aging at all after 97'.............

    But we can`t have Mai getting old now, can we?
    I wonder if a true reboot, where we start completely over is in the cards for the future?

    Like 3 people care at all about KoF storyline so i really doubt that.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Well, if the tournaments were monthly it would make more sense, I think.

    I think they should've made KOF have nothing to do with FF in the first place to prevent the confusion in the storylines. They should just let anything go and let Rock Howard come in and fight his dad in KOF, who cares about plot issues. KOF is meant to be a free-for-all of SNK characters. (As long as they're in roughly the same time period)

    I think they should go with this, because the story isn't even taking itself seriously when EVERY tournament has got some villain funding it for their corrupt ways. Sometimes the reason for gathering all these warriors is very silly. (KOFMI2: We're aliens looking to anal probe the best warrior on the planet. How do you feel about that Mr. KOF?)

    The new storyline is interesting, but I don't like how effeminate and young Ash Crimson is. (Seriously, a 16 year old I love My Little Pony so much it hurts is beating the shit out of these people?) They should've made Ash into a 23 year old chick instead.
  • Return of ShikiReturn of Shiki Your favorite game sucks Joined: Posts: 4,416
    I find it better just to imagine each story arc as it's own tournament, and not 9 seperate tournaments. That would explain lack of aging better.

    That would make sense except that it wouldn't explain the constantly changing KOF sponsors.
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  • TooseriusTooserius DVERITAS Joined: Posts: 755
    i think we'll have a powerless Kyo at the end of KOF XIII
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    i think we'll have a powerless Kyo at the end of KOF XIII

    I would like to see a dead Ash to be honest.
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  • GigazordGigazord Psycho Powered Joined: Posts: 779
    I thought I read somewhere that the KOF series is like its own series and takes place in a different universe than Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting, etc series so that everyone could be in it. Hence why Terry isn't God in the KOF series.
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  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    KoF is an amalgamation of SNK franchises that runs pretty much alongside the Fatal Fury world but doesn't really take part, like a parallel world that has a bigger tournament
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I would like to see a dead Ash to be honest.
    Ditto. Can't stand that that I love My Little Pony so much it hurts is supposed to be retarded good and has Iori's flames. GTFO SNKP with that bull. Let a real man like Shingo get his flames!:annoy:

    I'm hoping that the next KOF protagonist is anywhere near as awesome as K'.
  • ShingoKickShingoKick ▌♣▐ KLB Joined: Posts: 170
    I would like to see a dead Ash to be honest.

    I hope they kill him off also and that they do it in a fantastic he's never coming back fashion. Not even for a dream match.
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    ... Ash is a cool character.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    ... Ash is a cool character.
    ...If he was a chick.
  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    So, you judge people on how they look? That's a bit shallow. It'd also decrease the character variation to have nothing but manly men. Benimaru and Shion seem to do pretty well for the way they look...
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  • TooseriusTooserius DVERITAS Joined: Posts: 755
    lol-Ash is cool-I know damn well that he's a vicious motherfucker though when it comes to fighting-he's going to beat the shit out of Kyo. And I want Shingo to get his flames as well. I think that XI was a turning point for Shingo's character anyway. He's going to become much stronger gameplay and storywise I hope.
  • ReXXXSopranoReXXXSoprano Triple Da G.O.D! Joined: Posts: 1,509
    The SNK World has always been a hard puzzle to figure out storywise but I've tried to make sense of it and this is what I've learned.

    I like to think that the world starts with Samurai Shodown, then takes the turn at Last Blade, speeds up to Art of Fighting, then a little bit after that Fatal Fury takes place, then sometime after that Garou happens and it all ends with Savage Reign/Kizuna Encounter.

    With KOF it gets real tricky because I don't think Ryo ever fights Geese but Terry still whips his ass but he survives and right after that Rugal shows up. It seems that the worlds parallel and adds in characters from the other games as need be to keep it somewhat cohesive.

    And MI just complicates shit because of it being a Dream Match with it's own story it's really hard to place the branch. I just like to put the branch right before Garou just to explain Rock's appearance.

    I still trying to really figure this out but there's gotta be some link I'm missing and I might just find it one day. But crazy ass fucked up canon is good for now.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    So, you judge people on how they look? That's a bit shallow. It'd also decrease the character variation to have nothing but manly men. Benimaru and Shion seem to do pretty well for the way they look...
    Of course I can judge people on how they look if they're in a video game. I have no problem with Benimaru, I've learned to like his style. Shion and Ash are on a whole 'nother level.

    Ash: Retardedly overpowered, the current protagonist, and he's 16. He even beat IORI and took his flames.

    Let's look back: Kyo=Awesome, K'=Cool and slick, and now Ash=:looney:

    Shion: I swear I though that was a woman. Sorry I don't like trannies. (Especially if they're broken motherfuckers)

    EDIT: Shouldn't matter to you anyway, 'cause I use him.
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    im telling you people, if only ash was a girl instead of a... :shake:
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  • orochanorochan Skullgirls NZ Joined: Posts: 141
    Ash: Retardedly overpowered, the current protagonist, and he's 16. He even beat IORI and took his flames.

    Let's look back: Kyo=Awesome, K'=Cool and slick, and now Ash=:looney:

    Shion: I swear I though that was a woman. Sorry I don't like trannies. (Especially if they're broken motherfuckers)

    The only "tranny" in a fighting game is Poison from Capcom.

    I can agree with K' being awesome, but Kyo and Iori haven't been anywhere close. ever.

    Ash beating Iori is great, shows everyone how much of a pussy Iori is!
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    The only "tranny" in a fighting game is Poison from Capcom.

    I can agree with K' being awesome, but Kyo and Iori haven't been anywhere close. ever.

    Ash beating Iori is great, shows everyone how much of a pussy Iori is!
    Doesn't stop Shion from being quite possibly the gayest fighter in KOF ever. (Except for Another Jivatma)

    I've always liked Kyo because he's an everyday guy, can't keep up with school, being the best rekka fighter ever, and has had sweet costume designs. I don't care a lot for Iori, but some no name gay frenchie beating him and taking his flames is pretty dumb. (On the other hand it's made him more fun to play as :looney:) There's a reason most SNKers don't like him outside of Japan. I'll take Shen Woo as the protagonist any day of the week.

    EDIT: I wouldn't have minded him as much if they went for his more dark designs in some comic I saw of 2k3.

    Hecatom: Exactly my point.
  • ExcelReaverExcelReaver Forever a scrub. Joined: Posts: 253
    Am I the only one who plays games and switches some aspects to my liking? I just pick Ash and say Im choosing a female character, same with Bridget in GGXXAC etc. Who cares whats 'official' twist it to how you like to envision it.

    I never knew Shion was male before this board...but to me, she's still a chick. Haha
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  • RemxiRemxi Mithan's Robe Joined: Posts: 297
    Are you that insecure that you need to do something like that? lol
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Am I the only one who plays games and switches some aspects to my liking? I just pick Ash and say Im choosing a female character, same with Bridget in GGXXAC etc. Who cares whats 'official' twist it to how you like to envision it.

    I never knew Shion was male before this board...but to me, she's still a chick. Haha
    I do the same thing myself. I imagine Sakura, Athena, and Yuri are totally legal and that Poison is all woman. I also imagine that Elizabeth is sexy man and that Ryu is a hermaphrodite.
  • ExcelReaverExcelReaver Forever a scrub. Joined: Posts: 253
    I do the same thing myself. I imagine Sakura, Athena, and Yuri are totally legal and that Poison is all woman. I also imagine that Elizabeth is sexy man and that Ryu is a hermaphrodite.

    Isnt Athena legal?

    On that note, back to thinking about Momoko for no apparent reason.
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    Boy did this topic fall off quick
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    You guys are weird.
    Has anyone thanked you today for not setting the whole world on fire?

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  • Return of ShikiReturn of Shiki Your favorite game sucks Joined: Posts: 4,416
    Well, if all the closet homos/pedos are done ranting I figured I'd revive this topic because it seems some people are actually starting to get interested in the KOF story and I find even long-time fans are often confused or misled about certain things.

    The thing that makes the overall story of KOF so engaging isn't the plot at all (as mentioned before, most of the main plots of the games are pretty fucking stupid--see especially: all of NESTS, MI2, hell just about anything Falcoon is responsible for).
    Instead it's the characters...most of the character themselves have fairly detailed personalities and histories. Most of all, some can change dramatically throughout the series...they get mature, they change their attitudes, they fall in love, they get married, they respond to changes, they get stronger, they become weaker, and even popular characters actually DIE and DON'T COME BACK (except for dreammatches).

    Rather than going into that right now, I'd like to try to rank the character's storyline power. Since for some reason, some people want to know why some characters beat certain characters in the plot.

    Orochi Saga characters:

    Kyo (before 96'): S-
    Kyo (96 & 97): S+
    Kyo (99' on): S

    Benimaru (before 99): A
    Benimaru (99' on): A+

    Daimon: A-

    Chizuru: A-

    Shingo (before 2003): D
    Shingo (after 2003): C-

    Saisyu: A+

    Iori: S-
    Orochi Iori: S+
    Iori (after XI): ???

    Mature: B+
    Vice: B+

    Yashiro: B+
    Orochi Yashiro: S

    Shermie: B-
    Orochi Shermie: A

    Chris: C-
    Orochi Chris: A-
    Vessel of Orochi: Immeasurable

    Explanations...
    --Kyo in the early saga was definitely not quite as strong. After he got beaten down by Goenitz before 96', he actually trained for the first time in his life and improved his fighting style by mastering some new moves (Aragami, Dokugami, etc.). After Orochi was defeated, he had no real reason to train anymore so his power kind of slumped a little (as seems evident in how badly Orochi Iori kicked his ass in XI).
    --Benimaru got a minor power boost after NESTS mostly because the story writers gave him a 'push', seeing as Kyo wouldn't be available to fight in KOF in 99 or 2000. It's also explained as after 97' he vowed to train a little harder in order to match Kyo. He got to lead his own teams for a few tourneys.
    --Shingo obviously got a power boost after 2001, due to his training with Saisyu. However, he is still definitely not that strong...sadly, he may already be at his max potential...
    --Saisyu might seem a little low, but I can't justify him being much stronger as he is supposed to be many years past his peak. In his prime, he might have been close to as strong as Kyo (although during his era, he didn't have the same threats that Kyo has to face...so it's unlikely he was stronger).
    --Iori is supposed to be a step behind Kyo. Orochi Iori is obviously a boost...he fought a fairly even match with Kyo in 97', beasted Kyo in XI, but then got tossed easily by Ash. So S+ seems about right.
    --CYS without their Orochi powers are NOT that strong, sorry to disappoint their many fanboys. The only thing regular CYS ever accomplished was handing Heavy D, Lucky, and Brian their own asses...which is something ANYBODY in KOF should be able to do.
    Their lives were fairly ordinary before KOF 97'--their awakened Orochi powers are supposed to be a MASSIVE boost.

    Fatal Fury/Garou:

    Terry: S-
    [FF/RealBout Terry: S]
    [Garou Terry: A+]

    Andy: B+
    Joe: B
    Tizoc: B
    Duck: C+

    Geese: S
    Krauser: S

    Yamazaki: A- (A when enraged/Orochi)
    Billy: B+
    Gato: B+

    Mary: B-
    Jenet: B-
    Raiden: B

    Explanations...
    --Sadly, Terry is somewhat nerfed in KOF in order not to steal the glory of the precious Japanese girly boys that the East Asians love so dearly. The classic SNK storyline is now separate from the KOF storyline, but I ranked FF Terry and Garou Terry just as comparison
    --Some people may argue that Andy deserves to be a little higher. I argue that Andy has always intentionally been deep under Terry's shadow and never did SHIT in Fatal Fury and has done even less in KOF.
    --Krauser may be a little better than Geese, but I think they're close enough. Geese has a minor inferiority complex towards Krauser, but that only stems from the past. In the FF timeline, Krauser and Geese are cleanly beaten by Terry but in KOF 96 they never lost to anyone. Therefore, I think it's accurate to say that they stay the same between FF and KOF.

    Art of Fighting:

    Ryo: A+
    [Future Mr. Karate: S]

    Takuma: A
    [Max power as Mr. Karate: SS]

    Robert: A-

    Eiji: B+

    Mr. Big: A-

    --In the classic FF/AOF timeline, Terry and Ryo never met--Ryo is also much older so there's no way to make a fair comparison between the two. In the KOF timeline, I believe that Ryo is meant to be a notch below Terry. In the classic timeline, Ryo as Mr. Karate is probably better than Garou Terry.
    --Ryo is close to his prime while Takuma is past his. Overall, Takuma at his maximum potential is still one of the very strongest there is (as seen in KOF 2000), although he can't exert that much energy over a long period of time.
    --Robert has always been a step below Ryo...but unlike Andy, at least he's actually done a FEW things. Like Ken compared to Ryu, Robert has too many responsibilities to devote himself to training full-time like Ryo does. So at least their difference in strength is due to Robert's schedule...unlike Andy where he trains like 10x harder than Terry and STILL lags far behind him. Yeah, Andy sucks the big one all right.
    --Mr. Big, while a boss, had never been implied to be as strong as Ryo nor Takuma (which is why he needed Yuri as a hostage in AOF).


    Koreans:

    Kim: A-

    Chang: C
    Choi: C-

    Jhun: A-

    May Lee: C+

    --Kim has always been portrayed as a serious fighter who keeps up his training consistently. Though he's never been on the same level as the main characters, he can beat Chang & Choi together any day of the week and he's been a leader for several years so that's at least better than B-rank.
    --Jhun is supposed to be Kim's equal, or at least just a smidge beneath him. Not much to go on, since Jhun never really did anything, but he has to be at least better than Lin in order to get his team in KOF 2002UM named after him.
    --May Lee is supposed to have the most potential out of Kim's many students. Chang and Choi kinda recognize her as being better, plus she's the leader of the Girls team in KOF 2002 so her being a tiny bit better than Xiangfei puts her about this level.

    Wimmenz:

    King: B+
    Mai: B
    Yuri: C+

    Kasumi: C+
    Xiangfei: C
    Hinako: C-

    Malin: B-

    --King has always been the leader of the Women's team when she's been on it (except for when Chizuru was on it), so she's without a doubt the strongest. Plus, she's actually fought in the men's ranks in the Muay Thai circuit and fought Robert to a draw in a duel before KOF 2000.

    Ikari Warriors:

    Heidern: A+

    Ralf: A
    Clark: A-

    Leona: A-
    Orochi Leona: S

    --Heidern is a tough one to gauge. He's probably not at the same S-level as the main characters, but he's undoubtedly the strongest of the Ikari warriors plus he has always been the leader of the Masters Team.
    --Ralf and Clark nearly died stopping Orochi Leona in 2003 while she was barely fazed. I think S-Rank is a good fit.

    Psycho Soldiers

    Athena: A-

    Kensou (before 99): B-
    Kensou (99-2000): C
    Kensou (2001-XI): B
    Kensou (after XI): B+
    Kensou (Dragon Spirit): ??????

    Chin: D+

    Bao (before 2001): C+
    Bao (max potential): SS(???)
    Bao (after 2001): C-

    Momoko: Get the fuck outta here

    USA Sports
    Heavy D!: D+ (or D!)
    Lucky: D
    Brian: D-

    NESTS--Cyberpunk/Cowboy Bebop ripoffs

    K': S
    Maxima: A+
    Whip: B
    Lin: B+

    Seth: B+
    Vanessa: B
    Ramon: B-

    Kula: A+
    Kula (Max potential): S+ or maybe even SS

    Foxy: A-
    Angel: B

    Nameless: S-
    Kusanagi: A

    Ash and his merry band of homosexuals

    Ash (before 2003): S+
    Ash (after 2003): SS
    Ash (after XI): ???

    Duo Lon: A
    Shen: A
    Oswald: ???

    Elizabreasts: A+

    Adelheid: S-
    Shion: S+

    I didn't do the final bosses because since they are always defeated (as is necessary for the plots), there is no real point in ranking them.
    Also, I won't do the MI or EX-exclusive characters because fuck 'em.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    The SNK World has always been a hard puzzle to figure out storywise but I've tried to make sense of it and this is what I've learned.

    I like to think that the world starts with Samurai Shodown, then takes the turn at Last Blade, speeds up to Art of Fighting, then a little bit after that Fatal Fury takes place, then sometime after that Garou happens and it all ends with Savage Reign/Kizuna Encounter.

    With KOF it gets real tricky because I don't think Ryo ever fights Geese but Terry still whips his ass but he survives and right after that Rugal shows up. It seems that the worlds parallel and adds in characters from the other games as need be to keep it somewhat cohesive.

    And MI just complicates shit because of it being a Dream Match with it's own story it's really hard to place the branch. I just like to put the branch right before Garou just to explain Rock's appearance.

    I still trying to really figure this out but there's gotta be some link I'm missing and I might just find it one day. But crazy ass fucked up canon is good for now.

    Blame it Superboy-prime it was all Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting, then he threw the first punch (retcon punch) when manipulaed by Alexander Luthor and things happen, Ryo and Terry now have the same age, then the dream macthes, to Kyo changing outfits

    thank god Infinite Crisis is over and the entire GL corps took down a depowered Superboy-prime

    seriously we do know that some plot elements carry over, Geese was still beaten by Terry etc. I'm just curious as to how these took place in the KOF universe in contrast to their FF counterparts (although i would choose to believe that every FF story before real bout took place in both universes since it does not contradict anything)

    But i'm curious in the FF world Terry and Geese are the franchise main/character bosses, with the introductoty of KOF it became Kyo and Rugal, so does the KOF chars exist in the FF universe as well.

    PS: Superboy-primes retcon punch completely invalidates K-Lantis' KOF story Faqs some years back
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    Explanations...
    --Sadly, Terry is somewhat nerfed in KOF in order not to steal the glory of the precious Japanese girly boys that the East Asians love so dearly. The classic SNK storyline is now separate from the KOF storyline, but I ranked FF Terry and Garou Terry just as comparison

    THIS IS WHAT I HATE ABOUT KOF, they replaced an Icon like Terry for some hotheaded uncoordinated "Schoolboy" that appeals only to their cultural demographics, true that Terry's fashion sense with the red cap and all are too 80's but 80's is still more "GLOBALLY' identifiable than a snotty teenager with that 90's trendy undercut wearing a schoolboy outfit aided by a fancy plot device

    this is why Ryu vs Terry was a better counterpart in the SvC/CvS dream matches espcially when Geese/SF2 Bison is the villains representation.
    --Krauser may be a little better than Geese, but I think they're close enough. Geese has a minor inferiority complex towards Krauser, but that only stems from the past. In the FF timeline, Krauser and Geese are cleanly beaten by Terry but in KOF 96 they never lost to anyone. Therefore, I think it's accurate to say that they stay the same between FF and KOF.

    But Geese still manipulated Krauser in 96, regardless I've always maintained that Krauser was always potentially MORE POWERFUL than Geese (while Geese in only vastly MORE POPULAR) the scrolls don't mean sh*t since it's only metaphorical in explanation and he still died in real bout anyway. in the KOF-verse, I kind of maintain that FF1 and 2 still happened so still in that chronology Krauser is greater than Geese as much as SF2 Bison is above SF1 Sagat, though Sagat was retconned to be as strong as SF2 Bison but still below SFA Bison, Akuma, Gill and Seth. Geese in the KOF-verse (With no mention of the scrolls whatsoever) is at least Tied to Krauser, while both are below Normal Rugal whom is below Omega Rugal, whom is below Goenitz, whom is below Orochi.

    In the classic timeline, Ryo as Mr. Karate is probably better than Garou Terry.

    I think they're just about Equal, in the same League as SF3 Ryu IMO.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • krazykone123krazykone123 4D Joined: Posts: 2,848
    im telling you people, if only ash was a girl instead of a... :shake:

    Yeah KOF really lacks female bosses, and for the record I count Maki and Chizuru as mid-bosses...
  • BogardBogard Joined: Posts: 219

    Ash and his merry band of homosexuals

    LOL...you just made my day at work. I just need a beer and keep reading that until I get off.
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  • AbhiAbhi Best Team EVER Joined: Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    In KOF 94 I always assumed Terry and Ryo were the main boys due to to them being the tutorial people and could be selected straight away on player 1 or 2

    Then Kyo robbed the FF and AOF of it
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  • KusoGakiKusoGaki King of Fighters[UK] Joined: Posts: 69

    I like to think that the world starts with Samurai Shodown, then takes the turn at Last Blade, speeds up to Art of Fighting, then a little bit after that Fatal Fury takes place, then sometime after that Garou happens and it all ends with Savage Reign/Kizuna Encounter.

    There's Buriki One too. :)
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