Namco Stick Appreciation!

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  • tusecsytusecsy Joined: Posts: 15
    Darksakul wrote: »
    tusecsy wrote: »
    Does anyone make buttons like these anymore? They seem more lightweight and responsive.
    What you could do is just swap out the microswitches of the stock Namco buttons with Sanwa SW-68 switches
    Take apart and clean the old buttons in some warm soapy water, dry them, place the new Sanwa switches in there and rewire the buttons.

    Just for the record I think replacing the buttons on this stick defeats the entire purpose of owning it. I was just asking if anyone makes buttons like this that I could use in my other sticks.

    After a day of playing though, the joystick definitely leaves something to be desired.
  • ausomecrawlausomecrawl Demonpossessed Joined: Posts: 125
    DEZALB wrote: »
    Picked up a Namco stick last week, been wanting one for awhile. I really like the buttons, PS14GN>Namco Button>PS14G imo. I swapped in sanwa and seimitsu microswitches, the sanwa felt slightly better so i went with those. The stick def needed to go, i wanted to keep the stick appearance as stock as possible, so no LS32. Most ppl put in JLF's im not a fan of JLF in general so i decided to give the hayabusa a try. Installing it was just like a JLF basically. Had to cut out a bigger section of plastic to fit the haya. Obviously in stock form the haya is too big, the case wont close. Im going to have the stock haya shaft shortened by 8mm so it will sit at 24mm when mounted with no spacers. This is being done at my job, and they are backed up so i have no idea when i will be getting it back.
    For the meantime I tried installing the Namco shaft and actuator as a temporary thing. The Namco actuator is too wide and binds up when inputting diagonals. So i modified the haya actuator and cut it down to the namco actuator length. I sanded it down afew times until it fit properly. It was alittle too long after my first trim(pic). It was still binding up alittle so i swapped out the pressure spring base with the namco stick just to try it. Ended up making a difference. When it was all said and done the stick was mounted at correct height.It feels very stiff and short, ive done shaft swap mods on other sticks with the jlf/ls56, and the haya with this mod feels alittle off. I tested it out on ST and I was able to do all my stuff, its def good enough as a place holder until my short shaft is done.
    Thought id share the install incase anybody was curious in doing it.


    This is the stock haya mounted in the namco



    Looks like When you move your stick the screws show?
  • DEZALBDEZALB "Yamazaki Nigari" Joined: Posts: 634
    edited October 2017
    you might catch a glimpse of a corner of a screw during execution. Not a big deal to me since i dont look at my hands when i play. I used to original dustwasher, not sure if the standard sanwa washer is alittle bigger and would cover more.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 25,069
    DEZALB wrote: »
    you might catch a glimpse of a corner of a screw during execution. Not a big deal to me since i dont look at my hands when i play. I used to original dustwasher, not sure if the standard sanwa washer is alittle bigger and would cover more.

    Still, it is rather well done to keep the stick looking mostly stock while installing a Sanwa JLF or in this case a Hori hayabusa
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  • ykdykd Joined: Posts: 124
    Anyone use this stick stock on a PS4 ? I see the Brook PS2 - PS3/4 adapters, and was curious if that would work, or if I would be better off replacing the PCB to use this on my PS3 and PS4. Thanks guys !
  • StrtFghtrMstrStrtFghtrMstr SRnk1VaBeachAlphaTeam Joined: Posts: 552 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    ykd wrote: »
    Anyone use this stick stock on a PS4 ? I see the Brook PS2 - PS3/4 adapters, and was curious if that would work, or if I would be better off replacing the PCB to use this on my PS3 and PS4. Thanks guys !

    Yes if it's your only one I say keep it stock, the xtokki and Brooks adapters will take care of your console and pc needs. I have a second namco and that one is completely modified.
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  • DEZALBDEZALB "Yamazaki Nigari" Joined: Posts: 634
    edited November 2017
    please delete
  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 86
    edited November 2017
    DEZALB wrote: »
    you might catch a glimpse of a corner of a screw during execution. Not a big deal to me since i dont look at my hands when i play. I used to original dustwasher, not sure if the standard sanwa washer is alittle bigger and would cover more.

    Hey man what a coincidence, just a few days ago I finally got one as well! This stick has been eluding me for years but it was well worth the wait. I will change the stick to a JLF but I'm not drilling the metal CP, instead I'm attaching the stick like I did the Tekken 6 wireless stick mod. Those T6 sticks are holding rather well, no complaints.

  • DEZALBDEZALB "Yamazaki Nigari" Joined: Posts: 634
    @electricgrave the issue with using the Jlf in stock configuration is that the namco case isnt very deep and the jlf will not fit once it is mounted at proper height. You wither have to use some of the stock namco stick parts like i did for the hayabusa, have a custom shaft made that is shorter or have the jlf shaft sit higher than the standard 23 -24 mm.
  • StrtFghtrMstrStrtFghtrMstr SRnk1VaBeachAlphaTeam Joined: Posts: 552 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I opted to use washers with longer screws when I dremeled in a Hayabusa. Future project could possibly be to make the bottom plate hinged and sit on rubber thumb screws for fast access and have some grip if used on arcade top.
    Just a veteran player enjoying competitive SFV & the CPT
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    -SFA3 Replay Tournament Champion (21-0)
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    -Namco w/HFC/SilentKuros/SilentHayabusa-Zippys
    -Namco stock
    -VLX 360 w/JLF+Silent Zippy&uSW mod/OBS-MX Reds+Silent O-Rings/Qanba/Seimetsu/PCBs360VX+HFC4, Jansen x5 19MM Turbo Panel
    -VLX 360 Stock
    -TE-S Six-Axis PCB w/ShinJN adapter
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  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 86
    DEZALB wrote: »
    @electricgrave the issue with using the Jlf in stock configuration is that the namco case isnt very deep and the jlf will not fit once it is mounted at proper height. You wither have to use some of the stock namco stick parts like i did for the hayabusa, have a custom shaft made that is shorter or have the jlf shaft sit higher than the standard 23 -24 mm.

    Thanks for the heads up. Come to think of it; The shafts on the Tekken 6 wireless and the EX sticks fit in the sanwa casing pretty good IIRC, I could try that.

  • superfenix2020superfenix2020 Joined: Posts: 12
  • DEZALBDEZALB "Yamazaki Nigari" Joined: Posts: 634
    how far does the shaft stick out? Looks higher than the standard 23-24mm

  • superfenix2020superfenix2020 Joined: Posts: 12
    DEZALB wrote: »
    how far does the shaft stick out? Looks higher than the standard 23-24mm
    The sticks are the same, I think 24mm. What happens is that with the bat put is higher than with the ball.
  • GigazordGigazord Psycho Powered Joined: Posts: 781
    Maybe the final bump for this thread. Let's post those Namco's!
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  • superfenix2020superfenix2020 Joined: Posts: 12
    I created and put a custom Art to my Namco Stick

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  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 86
    I should have posted this here to begin with, better late than never I supposse...

    NPC-102 Namco Joystick 1996...2018 JLF Install.


    I had to mod the stick a bit, starting by drilling the joystick base a bit where the bolts line up, I did it in order to use the base as is (keeping it stock) and be as close to the top as possible in order to keep the bottom from scraping at all.

    I also did some snipping of the sides where the bolts can mount on certain applicatiopns, just so it could fit in the enclosure without hacking the case.

    The tabs for the square gate needed to be a bit shorter and one of the leg clips that hold the gate also needed to be trimmed. Do not cut all the way as you will ruin the integrity of the stick BTW.

    The shaft is Namco stock which fits nicely. The actuator needed to be cut and I used the Namco actuator for sizing. I could have used the Namco actuator which I tried and although it provides a shorter throw I'm honestly not too thrilled about the nylon material.

    Finnally the spring, the Namco spring is too loose, it's nice for some but too loosey goosey for me, the sanwa spring way to stiff in this case with the shorter shaft (at least for me), so I opted for a Tekken 5 spring, stiff like seimitsu but clean travel and contact like sanwa 'cause it's all basically sanwa anyway.

    The results are excellent, proper height, no different than stock height. Looks superb, no alteraions to the case which was my main concern and a bit stiffer than stock JLF, almost like a 1.5lb spring which I could have installed but I'm happy with how it came out.

    Played some KOF'99 on PSX with glorious results, corner juggles extravaganza, charging Robah FTMW, didn't feel lost, didn't feel cheated like I did when playing it stock, lol.

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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,625
    @electricgrave
    Very clean install, I like how you kept the outside looking stock.

    I do have one big point of complaint, though:
    Installing the JLF by drilling through the restrictor plate is the n00b way to do it. :)
    The BETTER way to install a JLF from the bottom into cases like the Namco, Hori Fighting Stick VX/V3, etc is to first slice off the 4 things highlighted here:
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    (I only highlighted one, but cut off all 4).
    Then use countersunk or relatively-flat-topped screws and mount JUST the black JLF body into the same mounting holes that you've used in your installation.
    This way, the microswitch PCB and the restrictor plate install just as normal, and can be removed/replaced without having to unmount your entire JLF.
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  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 86
    edited January 23
    Thanks for the comments. I did that with the Tekken 6 wireless, yes it does work great. With the Namco I opted for the long screws simply 'cause it's what I had handy, I can still do it the other way, I just might in the future.

    Edit: NVM, I misread the last part, just realized this now. Thanks again for the suggestion.
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  • STEZO_ONESTEZO_ONE FLUSH TOWN Joined: Posts: 521
    @electricgrave thats awesome. I like that all you did was hook up the insides and didnt do anything gaudy to you outer shell. god bless your soul
  • electricgraveelectricgrave KOBURAH!!! Joined: Posts: 86
    Thanks! I rather mod the JLF itself than the case, after all JLFs are easy enough to source ATM. I always try to keep things as close to stock as I can thus providing an option for reversal if need be. This particular case is immaculate, I couldn't possibly alter it in any form and sleep sound at night, lol.

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