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  • ManaNinjaManaNinja Just passin through Joined: Posts: 39
    His fighting style and stance. His claws and spike tipped shoes. His gadgets to swing across the screen and crawl along the top of the screen. And yes, his 30s film noir detective look. I thought he was cool.

    This just brings to mind.. How many other noir detective types are there in other fighters?..

    For that matter acrobats, cavemen, or gladiators from Atlantis?

    Not to say this game is a gem among fighters, but it did do somethings with the story of the fighters that stayed with me for awhile. I def enjoyed the way this game brought "heroes" from all over into one game.

    Wait what was the point of their conflict with each other?!

    King of fighters and Tekken had the challenge of who was the strongest, and MK had the fight to save the world, but what was the point of this one?
  • Desmond DelaghettoDesmond Delaghetto Ghetto Strategies Joined: Posts: 622
    I thought the game had the most unique story ever in a fighting game, period. I remember reading the character biographies when I was younger, and all the stories were really good. The music they had for it was really haunting and sad; it really gave the game a really somber kinda feel.

    I also liked the fact that the main boss in the game wasn't evil. He was actually kinda depressed the way things turned out from all the fucked up shit in past history. He was still a bitch to fight though.

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  • 123-Genei-Jin123-Genei-Jin , ?????, Profit! Joined: Posts: 538
    I love this game and still have the Sega CD version around. I played the original cartridge version with my friends backl in the day but we only had a single 6 button pad :rofl:, so the loser/contender had to play with the old 3 buttons pad. Good times.
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  • LittleJimmy1983LittleJimmy1983 Darksakul for mod 2018 Joined: Posts: 938
    Stage fatalities for this game were the best I've ever seen. The 1920's stage where the car pulls up and the losing character gets shot by guys with tommy guns leaning out the car windows was an extremely creative idea for those days.
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  • EsuraEsura Joined: Posts: 356
    This just brings to mind.. How many other noir detective types are there in other fighters?..

    For that matter acrobats, cavemen, or gladiators from Atlantis?

    Not to say this game is a gem among fighters, but it did do somethings with the story of the fighters that stayed with me for awhile. I def enjoyed the way this game brought "heroes" from all over into one game.

    Wait what was the point of their conflict with each other?!

    King of fighters and Tekken had the challenge of who was the strongest, and MK had the fight to save the world, but what was the point of this one?

    Their conflict was to reclaim their souls (thus their life) in a tournament and a fight against Eternal Champion. The winner will return to Earth with the chance to change their fate and restore balance to the universe.
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  • ThePurpleBunnyThePurpleBunny Joined: Posts: 17,265
    Sega CD version had an awesome soundtrack too.

    And you could play as wild animals, including (but not limited to), a Congressman.

    The fact you had to fight both Eternal and Dark champions 8 different times was hardcore.
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  • EsuraEsura Joined: Posts: 356
    Sega CD version had an awesome soundtrack too.

    And you could play as wild animals, including (but not limited to), a Congressman.

    The fact you had to fight both Eternal and Dark champions 8 different times was hardcore.

    So true....

    Also, if you lose during any of the Eternal and Dark Champion fights, you have to start over.......from the BEGINNING of the game, not boss fight. If you lose, it'll just give you a bad ending, like A3 did if you lost to Bison. You have to beat all 8 back to back, with the same health bar that barely refilled. And they were cheap. I say that they were 10x cheaper than A3 Bison, each.
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  • hubcapsignstophubcapsignstop my structure is so dirty Joined: Posts: 1,443
    now that i think of it
    Seth's alt costume is eternal champion?
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  • INCIDENTINCIDENT ACTION BASTARD! Joined: Posts: 335
    now that i think of it
    Seth's alt costume is eternal champion?

    No, considering 1) Seth isn't a being of pure energy/soul/something ethereal and 2) EC sported a traditional hakama and top where Seth just has.......Pants.

    I found it interesting how EC and DC fought with different aspects of nature. Also, EC as a playable character did the Gen-style switching....To the point they had to make two versions of EC (to cover all eight animal forms).

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  • TiberiousTiberious Oh noes! Teh FURRY! Joined: Posts: 1,067
    This just brings to mind.. How many other noir detective types are there in other fighters?..

    For that matter acrobats, cavemen, or gladiators from Atlantis?

    Not to say this game is a gem among fighters, but it did do somethings with the story of the fighters that stayed with me for awhile. I def enjoyed the way this game brought "heroes" from all over into one game.

    Wait what was the point of their conflict with each other?!

    King of fighters and Tekken had the challenge of who was the strongest, and MK had the fight to save the world, but what was the point of this one?

    The backstory is... definately different. The Eternal Champion is symbiotically linked with the condition of the human spirit. In the distant future, man declines, and eventually fades away.

    The Eternal finds that certain individuals would have had a great positive impact on history (to him) had they not been killed before realizing their greatness. In traveling back to rescue them right before their death, he uses up much of his energies, and so he can only send one back.

    All the rescued fighters are allowed to view what has and will happen, as well as train for the contest. The winner among the nine faces the Eternal for a final test. If they pass, they get sent back to their life, and can change their fate.

    For the CD version, it's revealed that every time the Eternal runs his contest, the result is unchanged. The Dark Eternal, who had formed shortly after the regular Eternal, had hidden several rightful participants (the new characters), meaning that until the true full contest was held, it wouldn't resolve.

    There were plans for a third installment, likely on the Saturn, that would've had a 3rd Eternal, representing chaos. Sega of Japan axed it, though.
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  • MadeManG74MadeManG74 Joined: Posts: 669
    I don't know if EC's story was all that original though, considering 'World Heroes' had a very similar one of taking fighters from different times. I do think that EC chose some great characters for it though.
  • EsuraEsura Joined: Posts: 356
    I don't know if EC's story was all that original though, considering 'World Heroes' had a very similar one of taking fighters from different times. I do think that EC chose some great characters for it though.

    But not for the sake of their soul and the future like EC though.

    SEGA needs to scap VF series and make EC, or at least make EC on the side like Namco does with SC.
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  • MadeManG74MadeManG74 Joined: Posts: 669
    But not for the sake of their soul and the future like EC though.

    SEGA needs to scap VF series and make EC, or at least make EC on the side like Namco does with SC.

    I could never want them to scrap VF, which is my favourite fighting series, but I agree I would love to see another EC come around. Like I said earlier, doing it in a comic book art style with cell shading would fit the game perfectly I think.
  • AnotakAnotak mad scientist Joined: Posts: 1,890
    taking fighters from different times was done in Time Killers and Blood Storm as well
  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,417
    taking fighters from different times was done in Time Killers and Blood Storm as well

    Yeah but Time Killers really sucked. :tdown: At least EC had a good story behind it. Shame the rest of the game didn't match up.
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  • ThePurpleBunnyThePurpleBunny Joined: Posts: 17,265
    Blood Storm's story was not the same as EC or Time Killers. That was a "king has been killed and a contest is held to find a new ruler" story.
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  • FreightFreight Joined: Posts: 12
    I played the shit out of this game - I more or less mained every character. This is going back ~13 years, but off the top of my head I would rank the players as follows:

    God tier:
    Trident

    2nd tier:
    Xavier
    Shadow
    Blade

    3rd tier:
    Slash (for mediocre players, Slash is arguably #1, but he gets owned against elites)
    Jetta

    Shit tier:
    Midnight
    Larcen
    Rax
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  • Sonic HedgehogSonic Hedgehog FistoftheWind Joined: Posts: 474 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    The story read that they were each awarded a place in the tournament because each character was robbed of their life before their true "time to go." I think I have the instruction manual in storage. It went into detail about how each character was cheated out of life.
  • caliagent#3caliagent#3 Caliagent Bobblehead Joined: Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I played the shit out of this game - I more or less mained every character. This is going back ~13 years, but off the top of my head I would rank the players as follows:

    God tier:
    Trident

    2nd tier:
    Xavier
    Shadow
    Blade

    3rd tier:
    Slash (for mediocre players, Slash is arguably #1, but he gets owned against elites)
    Jetta

    Shit tier:
    Midnight
    Larcen
    Rax

    Shadow and Jetta are undeniably the 2 best characters in the game. How are you gonna consistently beat shadow mode or jetta's speed up?
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  • FlyMikeFlyMike Rsk Rating $$$ Joined: Posts: 3,091
    I loved Rax and Midnight. Figures that people would find them shitty..... :sad:


    Stop comparing this game to other games that had people from other times. This one had a good story and graphics, decent gameplay, great music, and was fucking COOL.

    I would've loved to see this series take off, or at least make it to 3 or 4. Too much potential ruined. I wonder why they dropped it anyway. Sega is.........iffy.
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  • RampageRampage Lurkin' Joined: Posts: 4,993
    I used to like to use Midnight, too, but always accepted that he was somewhat limited.
    Xavier and Shadow, on the other hand, were the shit.
  • UbersaurusUbersaurus RIP Kinn "ROBOTRON" Joined: Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I loved Rax and Midnight. Figures that people would find them shitty..... :sad:


    Stop comparing this game to other games that had people from other times. This one had a good story and graphics, decent gameplay, great music, and was fucking COOL.

    I would've loved to see this series take off, or at least make it to 3 or 4. Too much potential ruined. I wonder why they dropped it anyway. Sega is.........iffy.

    The 3rd and final game in the series was planned for Saturn, but Sega of Japan killed it, because they didn't want a game made by Sega of America to possibly be more popular than Virtua Fighter. Their stated excuse was "they didn't want to take away sales," which is silly considering that they'd get it all anyway.

    But Sega always had that sort of rivalry between the Japan and American branches, probably owing to how successful the US one was compared to the Japanese. Eternal Champions 3 was just another victim. Read up on some of the weird ideas for it though, it sounds like it would have been a fairly unique game.
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  • FlyMikeFlyMike Rsk Rating $$$ Joined: Posts: 3,091
    I had heard about it. Something about in-game decisions affecting brancing paths and a fuckton of other impressive shit for a FIGHTING GAME. I can't think of the other plans but I remember some of them made me go wtf.

    Sega hating on Sega. Stupid dumbasses.
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  • monkeyspankmonkeyspank Paulina James Joined: Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Damn this game lol, man i found it to be kinda hard when i was a kid lol. But damn i would use midnight,jetta, xavier, and who didnt use trident? That dude was easy to use lol (only one i beat the game w/when i was a kid).
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  • JorantJorant Joined: Posts: 222
    Seeing it on the back of the box when the Saturn first came out is what got me so excited to own the system. If you look at the first run Saturn box, it shows a picture of the game and even says "ETERNAL CHAMPIONS". I remember being very pissed off when it never came out. Damn.
  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    tiers for this game should be posted on what speed cuz speed changes things. Rax is the easiest to tell. His slide normaly goes like I dunno a quarter of the screen. Or something on regular speed. But on overdrive(I think thats what they called turbo)it goes full screen. Theres other moves that are effected by this as well. One horrible example would be I think its midnights strong? press the button and youve won the match automatically.


    No seriously. Just keep pressing it. Its a infinite. I dunno if it works the same on normal speed. But a friend of mine showed me once. And yea... ethier you get hit by it, and your redizzyed for the rest of the match. Or you are stuck in block stun the rest of the match. One of the more dum things ive seen in video games. Another might be that boss in ninja turtles with that jump move over and over again. Its dum. Again I dunno if it works like that on normal speed. But on turbo, it does....


    Also there is a way to play with no yin yang meter on turbo. But I forget what it is off hand.
  • MadeManG74MadeManG74 Joined: Posts: 669
    I had heard about it. Something about in-game decisions affecting brancing paths and a fuckton of other impressive shit for a FIGHTING GAME. I can't think of the other plans but I remember some of them made me go wtf.

    Sega hating on Sega. Stupid dumbasses.

    So true, Sega was a mess back in the Saturn days, especially with stuff like that and Sonic Xtreme or whatever it was. I heard it was caused due to issues between Japan and USA and use of hte NiGHTS engine or something.

    Ah well, getting back to EC, I always thought that Rax was top tier for some reason. I used to get owned by his flying knees all the time.
  • caliagent#3caliagent#3 Caliagent Bobblehead Joined: Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    Also there is a way to play with no yin yang meter on turbo. But I forget what it is off hand.

    You could just go into the options and turn off the whole "lose your ying yang metere" thing. But then the game would be extremely broken lol. Infinite shadow mode, infinite smoke mode for midnight, infinite speed up for jetta, infinite teleport for xavier, infinite "you can't touch me moves" for trident, etc.
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  • dialupsuckydialupsucky FINAL SHOWDOWN Joined: Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    You had to put in a code to turn off yin yang meter on turbo. Only on normal speed can you regularly just turn off yin yang mode. That is unless there is diff versions of the game.
  • caliagent#3caliagent#3 Caliagent Bobblehead Joined: Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    You had to put in a code to turn off yin yang meter on turbo. Only on normal speed can you regularly just turn off yin yang mode. That is unless there is diff versions of the game.


    ah ok. 99% of the time i played on normal speed. I only played on turbo once, and it was way too hectic, so i never messed with it again.
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  • JorantJorant Joined: Posts: 222
    The whole Yin Yang thing is the only thing I didn't like about the game, and (sadly) the only thing that made it unique. If they could retool the game without it and not having over powered moves because of it, that would be cool.
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    This game was one of the worsts game ever follow by Martials Champion back in the day lol
  • Arjay9975Arjay9975 STILL playing Virtua Fighter Joined: Posts: 43 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I would love to see a remake of this title. Back when I played this game, the story had me compelled to the point where I wanted to see the ending for every character. None of the characters were truly evil, so you felt that every one of them deserved the chance to go back and prevent their untimely death. That was the tragic part of the game, though, since the Eternal Champion only had enough power to restore one.
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  • EternalChampions2018EternalChampions2018 Joined: Posts: 21
    ManaNinja wrote: »
    His fighting style and stance. His claws and spike tipped shoes. His gadgets to swing across the screen and crawl along the top of the screen. And yes, his 30s film noir detective look. I thought he was cool.

    This just brings to mind.. How many other noir detective types are there in other fighters?..

    For that matter acrobats, cavemen, or gladiators from Atlantis?

    Not to say this game is a gem among fighters, but it did do somethings with the story of the fighters that stayed with me for awhile. I def enjoyed the way this game brought "heroes" from all over into one game.

    Wait what was the point of their conflict with each other?!

    King of fighters and Tekken had the challenge of who was the strongest, and MK had the fight to save the world, but what was the point of this one?

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