How to paint MDF to a mirror finish worklog

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  • Duvet77Duvet77 Joined: Posts: 24

    Sorry I didn't think anyone was still following this thread so I held off on the updates for a little bit.

    I'm still following it.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    instead on using 600 before the last coat, does 800 or 1200 works? I think see big difference in 400 and 600 but the 1200 is simply tooo fine

    Anything finer than 400 will make no difference at all if you have more coats going on. 1200 is not even for normal sanding. It's used to remove scratches from previous sanding. Not to sand all by itself.

    Duvet77 - I'll keep updating for you guys.
  • LuckyDayLuckyDay Joined: Posts: 2,870
    Please do, I'm watching the thread too.

    Plus it's good for future reference once it's all completed.
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  • catchafirecatchafire My Crew Joined: Posts: 2,496
    I just royally fuc*ed my paint job... The corners got me! Even though I could sand the whole thing and start over, I don't have much time too paint. Grrr. Maybe a matted finish will make it okay...
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  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    I just royally fuc*ed my paint job... The corners got me! Even though I could sand the whole thing and start over, I don't have much time too paint. Grrr. Maybe a matted finish will make it okay...

    Ouch. I'm sorry to hear that. I can't stress that point enough. Be careful around every edge! I doubt anyone would get it right the first time though, you learn from experience.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    dont open the thread if you cant complete it.geez procastinator
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    dont open the thread if you cant complete it.geez procastinator

    I'm going to finish it. Just been really busy with real life. I've worked like the last 10 days in a row. I finally have a day off today so I'll be able to update a little later today.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Updated with the second color coat. There's nothing more I can do until that coat dries in a few days.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    so whats the minimum coats to reach the mirror finish?

    One question, I dont need stain on my wood so do you think I can go straight for gloss poly for every coat?
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    so whats the minimum coats to reach the mirror finish?

    One question, I dont need stain on my wood so do you think I can go straight for gloss poly for every coat?

    Might need a pre sealer first, but other than that yeah you can just go to poly.

    I'd say the minimum coats you need for a good paint job in general is at least 2. Doesn't matter what kind of finish you are going for. Personally I did 2 color coats and 1 clear coat.
  • Soarer5Soarer5 Joined: Posts: 223
    dont open the thread if you cant complete it.geez procastinator

    comments like that are unnecessary. he is taking time out of his busy schedule to help others, myself included. you deserve negative rep. :tdown:
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    My case is being made out of pine. Is the filler primer as important when working with pine or will a normal grey primer do the job?

    Hey mate , im in UK too, was wondering what you used as vinyl spackling?

    Thanks

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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    comments like that are unnecessary. he is taking time out of his busy schedule to help others, myself included. you deserve negative rep. :tdown:

    ^this is the one unneccesary. He didnt update after how many days. Well, dont bring up the thread if you dont have commitment to complete it. Since he apologized, you dont have to bring out the past:zzz:
  • fwirthfwirth Joined: Posts: 220
    ^this is the one unneccesary. He didnt update after how many days. Well, dont bring up the thread if you dont have commitment to complete it. Since he apologized, you dont have to bring out the past:zzz:

    soarer5's comment is completely valid as you seem to be missing the point of a worklog, where you log your progress as you do it.

    I can understand that you want to see this done and the finished product, but calling Digital a procrastinator while he waits for his paint to dry doesn't make to much sense
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    soarer5's comment is completely valid as you seem to be missing the point of a worklog, where you log your progress as you do it.

    I can understand that you want to see this done and the finished product, but calling Digital a procrastinator while he waits for his paint to dry doesn't make to much sense

    dude, do you have to wait for 3-4 days for the coat to dry?Does he live at Alaska?North/South Pole?Look at the timestamp before you post:annoy:
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    dude, do you have to wait for 3-4 days for the coat to dry?Does he live at Alaska?North/South Pole?Look at the timestamp before you post:annoy:

    Yes you do. It actually takes up to a month for paint to fully cure. 3 days is the shortest amount of time I would wait. Probably longer would be better. Anyways I never said I was going to do this in the shortest amount of time possible. This kind of technique takes time. If you don't have patience I suggest not doing it.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    weird, my poly spray paint can said recoat in 6 hours or 12 hours if weather is cold.I have done the first coat, touch dry in 2 hours and recoat in 12 hours. Second coat is alot smoother now. Im ready for the next coat and yes the weather is cold here. I admit Im impatient but thanks for the useful guides here:)

    PS: Its not useful if its not completed.2 thumbs down
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    PS: Its not useful if its not completed.2 thumbs down

    Could you please stop posting in this thread? You're childish remarks are not welcome.

    To the rest of you. I'm trying a new technique with the clear coat so I hope it comes out well. I've sanded the last color coat and put on the clear but I can't post any update pics until I get home from work later tonight. If everything goes well though I'm off of work on friday and I will have the whole thing completed then if my new technique works out well.
  • Okazaki IIIOkazaki III PARRY THAT SHIT SON Joined: Posts: 677 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Digital how would you feel about making this a general wood finish/treating thread? I have some questions about oil/varnishing I'd like to throw out in the open but I don't want to derail the thread if you only want to discuss your worklog or mirror finishes.

    ps: Keep up the good work (and don't feed the trolls ;-) )

    Edit: I do have one on-topic question: That vinyl spackling is only because the wood type is MDF? You wouldn't apply that to other wood types, right?
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    I don't know much about finishing hardwoods. Ask your questions in the woodworking thread. There are some awesome people that will help you out there.

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=191757

    Yeah that spackling is just for MDF. If you used Rosewood or something you wouldn't want to cover up that beauty.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Bump for the update. Only one more to go. Once the clear cures enough to sand in a couple days I will be able to sand and buff to a mirror finish.
  • Okazaki IIIOkazaki III PARRY THAT SHIT SON Joined: Posts: 677 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    What do you use for clear coat? Any brand names to look out for?
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    What do you use for clear coat? Any brand names to look out for?

    Edited the original with the brand that I used. It's Valspar Hi-Gloss Lacquer. Duplicolor is very good also. I would get one of those 2 brands. Whatever you do, don't buy cheap stuff. You get what you pay for.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    A guy from Bunnings(similar to home depot) showed me a piece of mirror finished wood like piano. He said total 8 coats(or more) is needed using wet/dry sand paper 800g for every coat and for the last coat 1200g.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    A guy from Bunnings(similar to home depot) showed me a piece of mirror finished wood like piano. He said total 8 coats(or more) is needed using wet/dry sand paper 800g for every coat and for the last coat 1200g.

    That guy had no idea what he was talking about.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm done with everything. I'll post all of the pics and info in about an hour. It came out very sexy.
  • UpasUpas MD's Stick Guy Joined: Posts: 824
    Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm done with everything. I'll post all of the pics and info in about an hour. It came out very sexy.

    Sweet!! Now I can start painting my case lol.
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  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Sweet!! Now I can start painting my case lol.

    Good luck with your case Upas. I don't want to look at sandpaper again for a while. Haha. This process is incredibly tedious and time consuming.

    Everything has been uploaded now in the second post of the thread. I really hope this tutorial helps a lot of people out there.
  • gnsgns Joined: Posts: 207
    Good luck with your case Upas. I don't want to look at sandpaper again for a while. Haha. This process is incredibly tedious and time consuming.

    Everything has been uploaded now in the second post of the thread. I really hope this tutorial helps a lot of people out there.

    Thanks for putting up the guide. Very comprehensive and easy to follow.

    You were right ... that is the best looking piece of useless mdf ever.
  • TamaThpsTamaThps Joined: Posts: 113
    Looks great man. I'll be using this for when I'm ready to paint.
  • brokenhalobrokenhalo Joined: Posts: 160
    oh man that finish is hot! great guide.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Thanks guys. I actually had a few swirl marks left in that last pic that I've since fixed. I'm gonna take a few more glamour shots once I get my SLR back from my friend.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,675 admin
    best guide i have ever seen. Did you use spray can or paint brush? For the last guide, did you finish it with clear coat after sanding with 1500g?
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    best guide i have ever seen. Did you use spray can or paint brush? For the last guide, did you finish it with clear coat after sanding with 1500g?

    Nope. After sanding with 1500g you buff it with rubbing compound and then a swirl remover. It was all done with spray paint. I couldn't imagine doing it with a brush. You would have to sand the hell out of it to get all those brush marks out.
  • Kaytrim's KustomsKaytrim's Kustoms Kustom Stick Builder Joined: Posts: 1,202
    This is one cool tutorial Digital717. I am filing this away for future reference.
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  • Tracer1Tracer1 Joined: Posts: 175
    Thank you for the tutorial, Digital717... I've learn a lot from this ^_^
  • pkrstdntpkrstdnt Joined: Posts: 802
    as i was putting on my first coat of clear the paint immediately cracked, and ruined all my hard work. Could this have happened because the color coat was not dry enough or i didnt wait long enough after wet sanding it?
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  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    This is one cool tutorial Digital717. I am filing this away for future reference.

    Thanks Kaytrim. Personally I would never use this method if I were selling the case. It's so tedious and time consuming that I wouldn't sell it any less than $150 at least for a blank case, and no one would buy it at that price.

    Tracer1 - Thanks man I'm glad you learned something.

    pkrstdnt - I don't know why your paint is cracking. Usually that is due to moisture or improper prep work, like not using primer or not cleaning properly.
  • fwirthfwirth Joined: Posts: 220
    Hey Digital does this mirror finish work with any other color than black, or does black look the best?
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Hey Digital does this mirror finish work with any other color than black, or does black look the best?

    You can use any color, but the darker it is the more of the mirror look you will get. Any color will look good though.
  • Okazaki IIIOkazaki III PARRY THAT SHIT SON Joined: Posts: 677 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Amazing work, thanks for this.
  • Kaytrim's KustomsKaytrim's Kustoms Kustom Stick Builder Joined: Posts: 1,202
    Thanks Kaytrim. Personally I would never use this method if I were selling the case. It's so tedious and time consuming that I wouldn't sell it any less than $150 at least for a blank case, and no one would buy it at that price.

    Tracer1 - Thanks man I'm glad you learned something.

    pkrstdnt - I don't know why your paint is cracking. Usually that is due to moisture or improper prep work, like not using primer or not cleaning properly.

    Nah it wouldn't be for a standard blank case. I would offer this as a premium option for custom stick orders.
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  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Nah it wouldn't be for a standard blank case. I would offer this as a premium option for custom stick orders.

    If you plan on doing that you should consider investing in a high quality spray gun.
  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    That is simply amazing. I will def. be trying this out on an arcade stick in the future! Thanks again for the great guide!
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    That is simply amazing. I will def. be trying this out on an arcade stick in the future! Thanks again for the great guide!

    No problem man. It's all worth it if it helps some of you guys get a great finish on your sticks!

    For anyone who attempts this post up some pics in this thread so I can see your work.

    Just as another reminder to everyone. This takes a LOT of patience, time, and work. In the end it's definitely worth it though.
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Thanks for putting up the guide. Very comprehensive and easy to follow.

    You were right ... that is the best looking piece of useless mdf ever.

    Yes it's very useless, but it looks so nice sitting on top of my dresser doing nothing! Maybe I can think of some way to use it for something.
  • CantoCanto Joined: Posts: 1,530
    Hey! Check out my result.. but I cheated, I only wetsanded the primer and put the top coat on and then did the rubbing compound and scratch thing, cause I couldn't believe how shiny it was...... but look at it with only one wet sand procedure!!! Its actually shiner in real life though:

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    I'm def. going to follow the whole procedure!
  • Digital717Digital717 Wannabe Viper Player Joined: Posts: 986
    Hey! Check out my result.. but I cheated, I only wetsanded the primer and put the top coat on and then did the rubbing compound and scratch thing, cause I couldn't believe how shiny it was...... but look at it with only one wet sand procedure!!! Its actually shiner in real life though:

    I'm def. going to follow the whole procedure!

    Rubbing compound is only for getting rid of scratches from sanding. If you didn't sand that top coat you don't need to apply rubbing compound.

    I forgot to mention in the first post that all of the steps that I took are not necessary for a great paint finish. You only have to do what I did if you want the best possible mirror finish. You can skip the clear coat step altogether though and still have a really good finish.
  • cacakingcacaking Registered SexyBeast Joined: Posts: 112
    is just having polishing compound sufficient, or do i need rubbing compound and scratch remover? thanks
  • DarkMatterDarkMatter Jamma Nation X Joined: Posts: 26
    Nice guide but you should smooth it before applying the clear.

    You see in this pic:

    lastcolorsanded.jpg

    You should keep sanding until there are no shiny spots and then apply another coat of base. Then sand the new coat with some 1000 grit. If it's smooth there then shoot some clear on. After the clear has cured then use 1500 or 2000 and wet sand it. After that you can use a fine rubbing compound and then swirl remover. It's just a more durable finish that way.
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