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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    do ittttt

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  • lebotlebot Joined: Posts: 97
    Hello. Anyway I can join the group as well?Would like to get some pointers from y'all awesome Sakura players.

    Long live Sakura army!!
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    yeah here's the link https://www.facebook.com/groups/1520157458270453/ im sure fergus doesnt mind adding you
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    Awesome! Thanks. I've requested to join.
  • Fergus2k8Fergus2k8 Let's Rock! Joined: Posts: 2,642
    edited November 2014
    snip

    I'm a big fan of your series! Just one little thing, with the otoshi setups in Ultra, it's worth mentioning that DWU will have an impact on them
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    Michael I'm so jealous of your video editing lol

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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    edited December 2014
    Ok so the basic safejump off mp.srk as most here know, immediate j.hk (5f safejump) you can immediately whiff cl.mp and nj.hk for another 4f safe jump if they dont quickrise. Instead of doing the 2nd safejump you can instead whiff cl.mp and do lk.tatsu to corpse hop and get a meaty normal, this is actually pretty hard to react to, also cause reversals not to work unless they know you will do it and reversal the opposite direction, also takes away back charge vs charge chars, will lose to corner mashing though (wiggle stick from downback to down forward). Dunno if it works on everyone only tried on Ryu, Viper (really good vs her as her hp.thunder knuckle is qcb) and Balrog (figured he has a dumb hitbox so if it works on him it will work on most chars).

    Just another gimmick that might catch some people a few times per set lol.
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  • TheBlackHombreTheBlackHombre Aesthetic Joined: Posts: 1,659
    unwnd wrote: »
    Ok so the basic safejump off mp.srk as most here know, immediate j.hk (5f safejump) you can immediately whiff cl.mp and nj.hk for another 4f safe jump if they dont quickrise. Instead of doing the 2nd safejump you can instead whiff cl.mp and do lk.tatsu to corpse hop and get a meaty normal, this is actually pretty hard to react to, also cause reversals not to work unless they know you will do it and reversal the opposite direction, also takes away back charge vs charge chars, will lose to corner mashing though (wiggle stick from downback to down forward). Dunno if it works on everyone only tried on Ryu, Viper (really good vs her as her hp.thunder knuckle is qcb) and Balrog (figured he has a dumb hitbox so if it works on him it will work on most chars).

    Just another gimmick that might catch some people a few times per set lol.
    Sounds similar to the setup Callisto came up with I believe.
    hp dp, walk forward, j.mk (crossup), whiff cr.MP, lk tatsu (hits meaty)
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Are there any 4f safe jumps from a M or H Shou ender or is it all 5? Also I've never really understood the alternate timing characters properly, can someone explain the actual timing differences on Cammy/Blanka/etc?

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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    Callisto wrote: »
    Are there any 4f safe jumps from a M or H Shou ender or is it all 5? Also I've never really understood the alternate timing characters properly, can someone explain the actual timing differences on Cammy/Blanka/etc?

    You can get a manual 4f safejump off hp.srk but its pretty hard to time it correctly (at least for me).

    Cammy, Sagat and Decapre all wake up 1f slower than everyone so mp.srk safejump is a 4f safejump (irrelevant though because they have 5f reversals anyway), whiff cl.mp nj.hk setup for non quickrise whiffs on them though, Blanka wakes up 2f (I think, might be 3f but pretty sure 2f) slower than normal so mp.srk safejump doesnt work on him at all unless you were to walk 1f forward afer mp.srk I guess which to me isn't worth risking.

  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Exactly the info I was looking for, thanks!

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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    edited December 2014
    DWU safejump on Blanka after fwd throw: whiff far.mk, j.mk. (4f safejump)

    Couldn't find any reliable non-dwu/non hard knockdown safejumps on him at all :(
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    I have a couple of ideas I'll try out tonight if I get time

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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    edited December 2014
    Here you go:



    I'm pretty sure you can swap j.hk for j.mk to get a crossup on the sweep setup, and from what I can tell that's what you need to use to get it to work in the corner
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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    Messing around in training I realised you can punish El Fuerte's Qbomb on hit if it doesn't knockdown with reversal hp.srk.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    I may or may not be the actual best

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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    Damn lol taunt safejumps, thats gdlk. Any chance you know how many frames you can cancel taunt after? I'll go ask in the USF4 General Discussion.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    No idea, it may differ by character. I was worried it'd be different by taunt too but it seems consistent between all of them from what I could tell.

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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Someone on reddit said they believe it's 40f universally

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  • FlyerfiFlyerfi Pleasant Man Joined: Posts: 14
    Hey guys, I made this. Let me know what you think, I love feedback (good or bad). This video really won't show off anything "new" for you guys but I wanted to highlight combos and setups that work against everybody in the cast; as this is more for beginners than anyone else.

  • TheBlackHombreTheBlackHombre Aesthetic Joined: Posts: 1,659
    Flyerfi wrote: »
    Hey guys, I made this. Let me know what you think, I love feedback (good or bad). This video really won't show off anything "new" for you guys but I wanted to highlight combos and setups that work against everybody in the cast; as this is more for beginners than anyone else.
    Wow, amazing video! This is the kind of stuff I love to see, quick, simple, and easy to understand for beginners; no offense to the other video makers of course. Do you mind if I embed your video into my character guide (whenever I update it), you will be linked and credited of course!
  • FlyerfiFlyerfi Pleasant Man Joined: Posts: 14
    Of course I don't mind. Thanks for the feedback :)
  • TheBlackHombreTheBlackHombre Aesthetic Joined: Posts: 1,659
    Ultra 1.04 Change List
    Sakura
    -EX Shunpukyaku, first 1-3 hits now force stand, hitbox increased downward so she doesn't hop over the opponent
    -EX Hadoken, travel speed differs by the button combinations, recovery frame is now 44 from 48

    Yay no more EX tatsu passing over crouching opponents. Also our fireball recovery is better so it may be possible to block long range jumps in now. :smile:
  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    I'm just glad there was no nerfs lol, every time I look at patch notes i'm just hoping i'm not gonna see "lk.tatsu adjusted to be -1 on block" or something.

    Anyway I suppose ex.tatsu buff is nice but situational, more of a fix than anything and ex.hado is kinda useless since it's one of the worst ways to spend meter as it is, really would have preferred to see a proper ex.srk buff so if the first rep hits the second always will too.
  • TheBlackHombreTheBlackHombre Aesthetic Joined: Posts: 1,659
    unwnd wrote: »
    I'm just glad there was no nerfs lol, every time I look at patch notes i'm just hoping i'm not gonna see "lk.tatsu adjusted to be -1 on block" or something.

    Anyway I suppose ex.tatsu buff is nice but situational, more of a fix than anything and ex.hado is kinda useless since it's one of the worst ways to spend meter as it is, really would have preferred to see a proper ex.srk buff so if the first rep hits the second always will too.

    oh shit didn't realize it was for ex hadoken. thought it was regular fireball :(
  • 0sh0sh AKA Vadsamoht Joined: Posts: 537
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    unwnd wrote: »
    really would have preferred to see a proper ex.srk buff so if the first rep hits the second always will too.
    This so much. Still glad that they fixed EX shunpu - I've lost way too many matches because of that going over crouchers.

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  • A-LXA-LX Joined: Posts: 489
    doesn't the new ex tatsu buff mean you can probably do cr.mp into ex tatsu now since its forces standing? And probably some other combos as well
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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    Holy crap lp+hp ex.fireball is like poison ex.fireball speed, still won't be spending meter on it often though.
  • A-LXA-LX Joined: Posts: 489
    yeah the speed is insane
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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    No EX Shou fix sucks (tbh I still have the issues they said they fixed with non-EX ones), but these buffs seem very legit, not broken but really useful.

    Sak is going to be a monster in terms of closing out rounds that are in chip territory. I believe it should now have the same recovery as level 2 charged hado I don't see what someone can really do about EX hado > dash up Shou in a chip scenario.

    Tatsu buff is nice, I don't think it was even 100% needed but I do get bopped for autopiloting blockstrings and going over then sometimes so it'll be nice.

    I think I'm going to have to revisit some of the videos I've done depending on how much hurtboxes changed on Elena and Poison, wondering if the s.hp ender combos still work.

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  • A-LXA-LX Joined: Posts: 489
    I checked on elena the far st.hp combos still work, also after cross up you still cant connect 2 lights on poison, so i'm not sure what they fixed about her hurt boxes. Also the ex fireball is only fast if you don't charge it, if you do you always get the old speed.
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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    edited December 2014
    Does CL.HP x2 > CR.MP still work fine on Poison as well?

    Edit: Not that it really matters now with the EX.Tatsu buff, but with new EX.Hado can you do something like S.HP xx EX.Hado > U2 in the corner now?

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  • 0sh0sh AKA Vadsamoht Joined: Posts: 537
    Callisto wrote: »
    Tatsu buff is nice, I don't think it was even 100% needed but I do get bopped for autopiloting blockstrings and going over then sometimes so it'll be nice.
    Well they didn't fix the same thing with HK tatsu, but that's actually fine with me because it seems to happen more consistently with HK than EX across the cast and can theoretically be used for gimmicky mixups unlike EX where you get punished because of the final kick.

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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    I like HK version the way it is bc sometimes it gets me random crossups and makes the other person throw their hands up while I whisper "that's a setup" in their ear when it's not

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  • unwndunwnd Joined: Posts: 451
    Callisto wrote: »
    Does CL.HP x2 > CR.MP still work fine on Poison as well?

    Edit: Not that it really matters now with the EX.Tatsu buff, but with new EX.Hado can you do something like S.HP xx EX.Hado > U2 in the corner now?

    All Poison combos seem to work just as they did in 1.03
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    Ex Hado was always underrated imo, glad it's even better now.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    edited December 2014
    CL.MK CL.MK CL.HP S.HP Standing-only Tatsu route doesn't work from jumpins anymore, just from FADC

    It looks like meaty Tatsu far S.HP xx EX.Hado with the fast one lets you U2

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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    EX fireball buff is extremely good, does great damage since it counterhits often.

    Ryu matchup got really tough, his fireball buff is nuts.

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  • TheBlackHombreTheBlackHombre Aesthetic Joined: Posts: 1,659
    I'm actually loving the EX fireball buff, I've always used the EX fireball to create space before. But it's godly now, I can confidently throw fireballs outside footsie range now.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    edited December 2014
    Also ended up playing sets against Chun and Juri last night. Juri felt a bit easier since the disparity in meter gain from fireball fights wasn't so big, and I was blowing up a lot of fireballs with L+H EX.Hado. Both matches benefited from Tatsu buff, not worrying about going over during block pressure was huge.

    Had a bunch of instances of getting a couple of hits but no knockdown from H.Shou vs. Rufus and the EX.Shou drop vs. Ryu, if they can just fix Shou I wouldn't ask for anything else.

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    Sakura's new Wild Costume:


    Im personally not the biggest fan of this one but watevs. :D
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    Needs less carrots
  • sandwichcookiesandwichcookie Unregistered User. Joined: Posts: 1,178
    has anyone with less clumsy hands than mine found any cool combos with omega sakura's new moves? I figured out you can link close standing fierce off her EX dive kick if you do it right off the ground so I know I should be able to cancel that into whatever but I can rarely get my hands to cooperate and do what I want.

    lol, I just wanna do cool TKCS combos like cammy...
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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    I haven't tried Omega version yet, I figured we already played an Omega character in the regular game so why bother lol XD

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  • A-LXA-LX Joined: Posts: 489
    yeah she's less fun in omega imo, because you can't do tatsu loops anymore because of the bigger pushback
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    Great video by shano ^

    Since we can now combo ex fireball into Ultra 2 in the corner, do we have a new 1 bar punish? I can't test it now so I'd appreciate it if someone could compare the numbers of:

    St.HP xx ex fireball, u2

    St.HP xx ex tatsu, whiff St. MP or backdash, u2
  • 0sh0sh AKA Vadsamoht Joined: Posts: 537
    Since we can now combo ex fireball into Ultra 2 in the corner, do we have a new 1 bar punish? I can't test it now so I'd appreciate it if someone could compare the numbers of:

    St.HP xx ex fireball, u2

    St.HP xx ex tatsu, whiff St. MP or backdash, u2
    St.HP xx ex fireball, u2 404 damage/220 stun

    St.HP xx ex tatsu, u2 449 damage/260 stun
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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Yeah I tested last night, there's no situation in which EX Hado does better than EX Tatsu > late L Shou. That said, fishing with EX Hado in the corner a la Ryu seems totally viable now

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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    edited December 2014
    Sooo, Far S.HP xx EX.Hado FADC U2 is a thing lol

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