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  • 4r54r5 FIGHTAN VIDYA GAEMS Joined: Posts: 2,579
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  • KYJellyDonutKYJellyDonut Custom Stick Junkie Joined: Posts: 860
    2 Questions:
    In the console version, within the Options Menu, there is an option to change it between Console and Arcade setup. What does having it on arcade actually change?

    What is different about Unlimited characters?

    Wondering the same thing.
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    What is different about Unlimited characters?

    boss characters basically.
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  • HBRDHBRD why Joined: Posts: 2,464
    Are they the new "gold" characters a la GG?
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  • Minerva_SCMinerva_SC Get on my level Joined: Posts: 1,684
    is there a BB "key" somewhere? on dustloop I see things like "JBC" and "JC", maybe they're character specific or something but I have no clue what it means....
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    thank ye. :karate:
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I'm a new player to the guilty gear/BB style of fighter and I have no idea where to start, I can feel the depth of the game and it's overwhelming since I'm starting from scratch.

    Anyone have any advice for a player getting into BB? What should I start with?

    edit: I've also been looking at dustloop.

    double edit: and how do you jump cancel?
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    How difficult would this be to play on a ps3 controller? I think it's 4 buttons, right? Also, are the inputs really strict(harder to do on a crappy pad)? If it's 4 buttons, I could possible play using the tekken style of index and middle finger.
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  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 10,220
    i main arakune and i'm having problems with tager... primarily tagers 5d beating everything i do in the air and ground and his 236a+ A, and 236+B are really giving me the shaft as well... i can win matches but at this point its hard... i know thats its 7-3 in arakunes favor i just dont know how to go about making it that way... it seems as if i have to curse him without getting magnetized but when hes spamming 5d and the 236 variants it kills all of my clouds except for the high one. but the high one does me no good cause the tager i play doesnt really need to jump... he just spams 236 all day...





    what am i doing wrong???





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  • 4r54r5 FIGHTAN VIDYA GAEMS Joined: Posts: 2,579
    Anyone have any advice for a player getting into BB? What should I start with?

    You can start with a more specific question.
    double edit: and how do you jump cancel?

    Jump-cancels are done the same way as special-cancels or super-cancels in most any other fighting game, just with a jump. And like special and super cancels, not all moves are jump-cancelable.

    Do a move, when the move connects, tap up.
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  • HBRDHBRD why Joined: Posts: 2,464
    I'm a new player to the guilty gear/BB style of fighter and I have no idea where to start, I can feel the depth of the game and it's overwhelming since I'm starting from scratch.

    Anyone have any advice for a player getting into BB? What should I start with?

    edit: I've also been looking at dustloop.

    double edit: and how do you jump cancel?

    1: Just play the game, it's a new system for you and you'll need to get used to it like other people had to get used to SF with IV. All characters are good but I'd stay away from Carl and Litchi especially, they're more complicated. Jin, Ragna, and Noel are pretty simple (simple =/= bad, Jin is actually really strong and has no bad matchups, just none that are overwhelmingly in his favor).

    2: Jump canceling is done by jumping when you hit with an attack that is jump cancelable. It just removes the recovery frames of the attack.
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  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    There any lag with HD projectors / LCD TVs?
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  • fundandofundando monitor cyborg Joined: Posts: 479
    Hey guys I was wondering if anyone had found or made up a track listing for the LE soundtrack. The only soundtrack listing I could find was for the OST.
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  • Black DogBlack Dog Hakumen Joined: Posts: 129
    it was posted somewhere. eitherway, someone mentioned it's in the order of the bgm select. either way, I put both CD's in iTunes and it found the tracklisting for me. Wayy too lazy to type it out though, sorry.

    So story mode...am I correct in assume it's like GG#R where there are just some random conditions you gotta fill in certain battles to get all three endings or is there some formula or something..
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  • 4r54r5 FIGHTAN VIDYA GAEMS Joined: Posts: 2,579
    There any lag with HD projectors / LCD TVs?

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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    What do the different color icons for delay stand for? My TV is an old SDTV so the writing is so blurry and small on the icons that i cant read them =(. And I couldn't seem to find mention of the different colors in the instructions.
  • radicaledward101radicaledward101 . Joined: Posts: 805
    Don't think anyone said this yet, but dust loop has the story mode mapped now! http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6067

    My apologies if this info has been posted already.

    Also, any chance the OP could consolidate some of the Q&A's in post 1 and 2? Thanks for making the thread!
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  • Beatface22Beatface22 Duck..Dodge....Runnnnnnnnnn Joined: Posts: 842
    So whats the Correct Button Layout for this game
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  • 4r54r5 FIGHTAN VIDYA GAEMS Joined: Posts: 2,579
    Arcade has two layouts that you can pick from

    Layout A:
    BCD
    A

    Layout B:
    ABC
    D

    For console, since everyone is already splintered between A or B, you might as well just go with what ever the fuck you want.

    edit: Actually, if your BB scene has never touched the arcade, then it might be worth it to get everyone playing on the same layout, then you never have to fiddle with the key config
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  • ph15hph15h Custom Title? What? Joined: Posts: 83
    2 Questions:
    In the console version, within the Options Menu, there is an option to change it between Console and Arcade setup. What does having it on arcade actually change?

    I believe it decides whether or not you can use the Right stick to perform specials and if every character gets Astrals or if its left to whatever character in the arcade had one.
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    the Glossary on the bonus disc have Frame Trap on it.

    so i was wondering if this game also has Tech Traps? lol j/w
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    So how in hell do you upload replays so they can be viewed when you check the ranking.
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  • debsdebs lowering property value Joined: Posts: 5,033
    extremely noobish question...but does the whole community really use 123456 in place of up, down, left, right, etc.??

    its so hard getting use to things like 6C, 324B because the controls are already different from whats on the ps3 controller...then you come online and have to translate directions.

    lol, i just had to complain to someone about this. ok, i'm done.
  • PelvicThrust69PelvicThrust69 Get Hype Joined: Posts: 390
    extremely noobish question...but does the whole community really use 123456 in place of up, down, left, right, etc.??

    its so hard getting use to things like 6C, 324B because the controls are already different from whats on the ps3 controller...then you come online and have to translate directions.

    lol, i just had to complain to someone about this. ok, i'm done.

    Its actually not to bad to figure out. Just look at your numpad, the numbers correspond to directions on the numpad. Once you've looked at it for awhile you'll sort of start to unconciously translate it


    Also ABCD corresponds to the actual names of the buttons in the arcade and how they're referred to in game. Since its not platform specific it actually makes things easier to talk about then referring to stuff by their button names on various controllers.

    Not to mention is easier for me to remember then j.f j.hk etc.
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  • 4r54r5 FIGHTAN VIDYA GAEMS Joined: Posts: 2,579
    the Glossary on the bonus disc have Frame Trap on it.

    so i was wondering if this game also has Tech Traps? lol j/w

    yes.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    this is gonna sound extremely noobish but what button do you press to recover in blazblue, because i feel like i press all the buttons and by the time i recover with all the spamming that im doing i end up throwing a punch instead of blocking, do i have to press a normal attack button at a certain time? or do i have to keep spamming?
  • HBRDHBRD why Joined: Posts: 2,464
    Once you are actually able to recover (different moves can be teched out of at different times, others can't be teched out of at all), you just press one button and the direction that you want to tech in. Neutral teching is the fastest, but can be unsafe depending on the situation.

    On that note, I have a question regarding Jin's ice blocks. What do you do to "waggle" out of them? Is it the joystick, or is it the A/B/C buttons?
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    Once you are actually able to recover (different moves can be teched out of at different times, others can't be teched out of at all), you just press one button and the direction that you want to tech in. Neutral teching is the fastest, but can be unsafe depending on the situation.

    On that note, I have a question regarding Jin's ice blocks. What do you do to "waggle" out of them? Is it the joystick, or is it the A/B/C buttons?

    when do you know you can recover? because i never know the difference. or do you just press a button one time and it will tech whenever it is possible like a buffer?
  • 4r54r5 FIGHTAN VIDYA GAEMS Joined: Posts: 2,579
    you can't buffer techs like that. When ever you are able to tech, tapping a button will tech. If you can't tech, tapping a button won't do anything.

    If you are having trouble teching, try tapping to each hit of your opponent's combo, but time your taps to just before your opponent's hits connect. That way, if you can tech, you tech through your opponent's next attack.

    Or you can just mash. This is what I did in GG, for strings or situations I've never seen before. And I would stop mashing as soon as I saw a tech, to keep from accidentally throwing out an attack.

    For Jin's ice stuff, only left and right do anything.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    you can't buffer techs like that. When ever you are able to tech, tapping a button will tech. If you can't tech, tapping a button won't do anything.

    If you are having trouble teching, try tapping to each hit of your opponent's combo, but time your taps to just before your opponent's hits connect. That way, if you can tech, you tech through your opponent's next attack.

    Or you can just mash. This is what I did in GG, for strings or situations I've never seen before. And I would stop mashing as soon as I saw a tech, to keep from accidentally throwing out an attack.

    For Jin's ice stuff, only left and right do anything.

    oh ok thanks alot. :bgrin:
  • jcerwinskejcerwinske Joined: Posts: 112
    I believe it decides whether or not you can use the Right stick to perform specials and if every character gets Astrals or if its left to whatever character in the arcade had one.

    I don't think that is the difference. In Battle Fantasia, there was also Console/Arcade setting. There were a couple broken aspects about the arcade version (some infinites) etc. These were fixed in the console release, probably along with some other balance adjustments. The setting basically is between the original unchanged arcade version, and then a version with any balance tweaks that may have been added for the console release.

    Not having actually PLAYED the arcade version though, I can't tell you what may have actually changed. Likely it is extremely minor... Anybody know?

    Err wait, now that I read that again, you're are right, it is probably about the difference in who has Astrals (I forgot that they were limited in the arcade version). I doubt it enables/disables the right stick easy moves though.
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  • InfilInfil una catástrofe con una pelota de beisbol Joined: Posts: 8,629
    So I've read some tier charts and I don't know whether to be disappointed or indifferent. I'm new to GG (though some others in my circle of friends have been playing GG for years), though I have a lot of experience with SF, I'm going to try to give BlazBlue a shot.

    How much effort are people going to have to put into a character in order to make these matchups accurate? In SF4, for example, it doesn't take long to figure out how to beat Gief with Seth, and even bad Giefs can beat decent Abels by doing a lot of braindead things on occasion. Those are 7-3 matchups or so, and this game has a few that are apparently worse (and many that are 7-3). But, is someone going to be able to counterpick me easily, unless they've spent 50 hours in training with this character? Are the counter strategies easy to execute?

    I guess I'm just asking how much the game's complexity masks the tier charts. Are some matchups 7-3 only because of some insanely difficult execution or strategies, or are some matchups just fundamentally flawed and it doesn't take long to learn to exploit? I want to get good at the game, but it's discouraging to know that it might be just a constant source of frustration.

    EDIT - Perhaps a more direct question. Let's say I choose to learn Tager and my friend of roughly equal SF skill chooses to learn V-13. We both have never touched GG in our lives, but have vague ideas about the fundamentals like roman cancel, faultless defense, etc. Is this going to be a bloodbath early on for me, or will it take us 200 hours of matches before the 7-3 nature starts to become apparent?
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    how do one choose unlimited form of characters?
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    how do one choose unlimited form of characters?

    If you have them unlocked, press S (taunt) over their icon. An "UNLIMITED" icon should appear to let you know you've selected the unlimited version. Select the character as normal.

    For everyone getting used to the number notation, use the number pad on your keyboard as a reference.
  • redgatoraderedgatorade Joined: Posts: 53
    I understand the game plays in 16:9 widescreen. On my TV its almost like its doesn't fit on screen. The faces are cut out of the hp gauges and characters nearly dissappear in the corners. When I play arcade the Bios are cut in half and the text trails off of the screen. I've gone to the display settings in my XBox(set to normal) and in the game, where I'm allowed to raise or lower the meters. Yet I cant make the game in its entirety fit. Do I have to play on a widescreen TV to see the whole picture? Any advice?
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    If you go into the display options in the game there are three different "zoom levels" that you can choose. The default is by far the most zoomed in. I am currently using the middle mode, which seems to let me see most of the screen.
  • stealthcatstealthcat Joined: Posts: 155
    Weird ass question, I like my stuff in excellent condition.

    Did anyone pick this up at Best Buy? I'm thinking of getting it there after the holiday weekend, but they usually use this wire security device at my local one that crushes the packaging on collector's editions (such as Resident Evil 5). Is BlazBlue's box thin enough to not have the wire security device (and the see through plastic instead)?
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    just started playing this after months of sf4, and DAMN.......... i tried picking up rachel and it was VERY hard... whos an easier character to pick up (please dont say noel)? i was watching the tutorial video for the character, and i saw that v13 doesnt look all that bad, seems like a lot of her combo revolves around her throwing drives all over the place, is she easy to pick up?
  • darkfroggydarkfroggy Joined: Posts: 266
    How do you get out of move spamming? I know in SF4 you can always DP out of it, but BB is different. I try Barrier Guard but they just close the distance and spam again.

    Ragna is giving me trouble with the huge sword spamming thing, whatever it is.
  • XgrayninjaXgrayninja Fumbling my way to the top. One loss at a time. Joined: Posts: 1,224
    If you have them unlocked, press S (taunt) over their icon. An "UNLIMITED" icon should appear to let you know you've selected the unlimited version. Select the character as normal.

    For everyone getting used to the number notation, use the number pad on your keyboard as a reference.
    Wow thanks, I finally understand what all the numbers mean. This will certainly help alot.
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    Weird ass question, I like my stuff in excellent condition.

    Did anyone pick this up at Best Buy? I'm thinking of getting it there after the holiday weekend, but they usually use this wire security device at my local one that crushes the packaging on collector's editions (such as Resident Evil 5). Is BlazBlue's box thin enough to not have the wire security device (and the see through plastic instead)?

    I work at best buy and we did not spider wrap the blazblue box.

    Every store is different though.
  • stealthcatstealthcat Joined: Posts: 155
    I work at best buy and we did not spider wrap the blazblue box.

    Every store is different though.

    Thanks, I'll check out my local store!
  • radicaledward101radicaledward101 . Joined: Posts: 805
    just started playing this after months of sf4, and DAMN.......... i tried picking up rachel and it was VERY hard... whos an easier character to pick up (please dont say noel)? i was watching the tutorial video for the character, and i saw that v13 doesnt look all that bad, seems like a lot of her combo revolves around her throwing drives all over the place, is she easy to pick up?

    Ragna is sort of a shoto... Jin also seems to have a fairly simple learning curve (until you are going for perfection that is). Carl and Rachel are proly the hardest to play (could be wrong about this). I also have trouble playing as Arakune.

    Why all the Noel hate? I love Noel! As long as you don't play like a scrub, Noel is a great character. Additionally my experience has so far consisted of a fairly balanced amount of character usage. Not sure why people are encountering a lot of Noel. Maybe bad luck?

    Also, for us n00bs, according to Tiggy ->
    -Don't air-dash a lot
    -Don't pick Carl or Bang (lol)
    -Don't spam dps or supers (won't work)
    -Don't complain...we're all DAY ONE lol

    My addition -> Don't spam D. At least not with Noel and Litchi.
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    Why all the Noel hate? I love Noel! As long as you don't play like a scrub, Noel is a great character. Additionally my experience has so far consisted of a fairly balanced amount of character usage. Not sure why people are encountering a lot of Noel. Maybe bad luck?

    oh lol naw no noel hate, i love her too! its just everyone i ask who easy character is, their reply: noel, but im not that into her fighting style thats why :/

    but yea ill try out ragna and jin, thx :)
  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Thanks for all the answer to the questions in here. Helped a lot. I was using Noel, but if she's an easier character to use, I'm doing something wrong -_- and I was hoping to learn her. I was playing in a room with a couple of friends and some guy complimented my Tao so there's hope (admittedly I learned each of her D directions and just used them to maneuver around and poke).

    Looks like I'll pick up Jin or Ragna until I'm comfortable with the games mechanics then move onto another character.

    And to the question about what's the difference between arcade and console:
    Go to the options and scroll over it. At the bottom of the screen, something scrolls by saying exactly what it does. Arcade sets to where there's no unlimited characters and Astral Finishes are limited to the characters who have it from the arcade (Ragna, Rach, 13). Console allows unlimitedes and all astral finishes.
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    Why does everyone barrier burst 5 seconds into the match when I land a 2a? Is there some genius behind this tactic that I'm missing?
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    They're probably just mashing buttons trying to ukemi. I accidentally used barrier burst a lot my first day.
  • a falling mangoa falling mango NO-YOU-CAN-NOT Joined: Posts: 709
    If you go into the display options in the game there are three different "zoom levels" that you can choose. The default is by far the most zoomed in. I am currently using the middle mode, which seems to let me see most of the screen.

    I have XBox 360 version, and there is no zoom option that I can find :sad: Then again, I only played it for about 15 mins, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a zoom option when I tried to fix the screen. Only moving the HUD around.


    Question, I connected to live and there was an update for the game...

    Any idea what it does?
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    Question, I connected to live and there was an update for the game...

    Any idea what it does?

    Already mentioned many times on the forums but it fixes the lags online to make it as godly as it was supposed to be, and adds blind select for ranked matches.
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