eagle > bison, guile, honda, cammy
eagle x rolento, sakura, chun, blanka, sagat
eagle < ???
the x means hes even with but it all just is my opinion
some people say eagle loses to sagat but i dont believe that bullshit. its mostly people who play roll-happy-sagats vs people who poke at the wrong times with eagle. then yeah sagat>eagle. but when eagle baits rolls and pokes smart. he can punish rolls for 50% custom combo or 50% level 2 into level 1. its very hard for eagle to get pressured because he has superior pokes, solid antiairs, a good roll vs fireballs (except sonic booms), and high damage combos. you shouuld take popoblo's post seriously. hes making some good points that people arent even listening to. theyre just disagreeing without knowing. sakura's RH gets punished by eagles standing fierce or even better activate standing fierce xx rush( A groove bullshit combo you know). and RC spin attack is a good lowjump stopper. even without RC he still has highcounter to deal with low jumps and low fierce at the right times. eagle is pretty toptier to me. i dont understand why people say hes not. hes got everything that toptier characters have and even more. ok bye.
I know that if Yama has a weakness, it's that he's not exactly hot stuff in A-groove, so he's not going to get much play at all on any A-team.
Rugal? I remember some guys that were solid with him, but what happened to him anyway? Shouldn't RC fix his old weakness of unreliable AA?
Well, this thread went to hell pretty fast, and it didn't even require the input of sim_rock... is that guy still even around here?
the people who say that eagle is shit compared to sagat really need to realize what the game is about. .
eagle can land his CC and do REAL damage easier in A-groove than comboing into his super in P/K. it's that simple.
NOW i know why apoc said he doesn't post much about eagle, because people think you don't know your shit and wonder why you haven't gotten top 8 at evo with him or some stupid shit.
okay, you acknowledge that eagle can punish sakura's standing rh, yet sakura somehow magically still wins the match? you're not providing enough support to prove a point. i'd like to hear what else you think on the matchup. but you said it yourself- you don't know shit about eagle. RC lariat IS the best low jump AA, and you DO need to RC it (RC mp lariat of course). and P is probably eagle's 3rd best groove, so you haven't faced eagle in his best groove, but it's okay because you still got to see his potential. geese IS NOT top tier, i don't know where you got that from.
jae hoon wrote:
Well you would have a point if you werent the same guy who said Sakura was one of the worst characters in the game when A Sak is one of the best characters if not the best character in the game.
Eagle is good no doubt high mid imo but he isnt Sagat that is true. Like I said you can play no groove Sagat and still have a chance just because its Sagat.
Now onto something else
Buk or anyone else who feels like commenting on this. You rate A Hibiki as the better Hibiki but I always felt K was alittle bit better although either isnt a wrong answer. Im going to guess that the reasoning is that she has about 800 different ways to setup her CC which does increadible damage but I could be wrong.
are you from new jersey? i'd love to play you some time.
jae hoon wrote:
Lol no and yes I do know who you are. I just find it rather surprising that you would say something like that. I would think you would be joking about that but it sounded pretty serious as this isnt the first thread you have said it in. Its common knowledge about how good Sak is and to say she isnt is just rather stupid honestly.
In from Washington actually but im deploying in this Hell called Iraq.
Spoony: To expound alittle more, Joe has trouble stopping small jumps, he doesnt have a reliable ground AA, so C groove eats him alive and he has not backup AA besides super for people who can parry well. He is to reliant on his crouching short for a reliable super combo. He has no air game to speak of. Those are some reasons why he might not be considered mid top tier.
He does however have a bit of an underrated roll, its not great but its good enough. He has an excellent pressure and chip damage game. His crouching jabs and crouching shorts are fast. I dont need to mention his lvl3 double upper. His screw upper is surprisngly quick and is good for people who love to small jump. He has an Iori like super combo. He has good speed to get across the playing field. He has a good projectile if used correctly and not abused. He also has a good RC with his RC Crazy Hands, the crazy hands are linkable to but its hella hard to pull off.
Um Geese has three bad match ups in my book, Yama Vega and Geese.
Because they can all out range him, well except for geese.
Nick T. wrote:
One thing I learned is that you may be good at RCing, but under pressure there's still the fuck up factor. You fuck up, you're dead.