Fei Long Video Thread

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  • StarNabStarNab Joined: Posts: 195
    Crazy how many anti-air rekkas you landed that could have gone into ultra. It is so common for Fei to hit people out of jump frames with the 1st rekka in blockstrings that I think Fei players should become adept at reacting to this with Ultra for a good 30-40%. Not sure how I feel about burning Super on this as I would, personally, rather save it to make my low forward scarier.

    Never even think about that !
    There are so few opportunities to land Fei's Ultra that I'll gladly throw it that way if reliable. Gotta try it in training mode.
    There were 2 distinct moments where I thought ? though:

    1. you had Viper in the right corner and she blocked your x-up...you landed...did s.fierce which she got hit by and went into rekkas. you hit-confirm off of cl.s.fierce? =O

    2. another x-up situation, viper tried to use ex flame to escape and you hit it from behind with a rekka. sick, but I wonder if that was your intention

    You seem pretty comfortable with going into the 2nd rekka at a deep range. Care to share your thoughts on that?

    1. No I confirm with rekka 1st hit. I would have thrown the 1st hit of rekka no matter what and would have mixed with delayed rekka after.

    2. No just got lucky on that one :-)

    Not sure about what you mean with 2nd rekka...
    Haven't played vipers as good as him yet. But can I fa and dash away when dealing with wake up flame kick cross over? (kinda like ChunLi's)

    Yes that's what I've been doing later (I've played an other very good Viper offline the same day). But be careful, you have to dash away very quicly because she can catch you with her cr.MP if you don't.
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  • Rioting SoulRioting Soul Joined: Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    i beat him in the finals when it mattered cause i saved the clip:rofl:,
    I hate my saved clip... I hope nobody's using that to judge the current me.
    What strength rekka did you use to link after cr.MP near the end of that vid? Is the frame data on the wiki incorrect(it says that link is impossible if I read it right)?

    Also, I wanna get some matches with you some time(dictator). If the connection is good, of course.
  • MaaZaMaaZa 198d Joined: Posts: 226
    the only way to combo off c.mp with a rekka is off counter hit, he probably used lp rekka but it is possible to followup with mp rekka

    anyway nice matches starnab

    Edit: For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, FA Taunt Cancel. (fei longs taunts start at 11:56)
  • Rioting SoulRioting Soul Joined: Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    the only way to combo off c.mp with a rekka is off counter hit

    That's what I was thinking too since the first time he did it was a counter hit. But at 10:20 he does a cr.MP that hits normally, and links a rekka afterward.
  • MaaZaMaaZa 198d Joined: Posts: 226
    I noticed that as well which I found very odd that counter hit was not displayed again on the screen. Surely if you go into training mode and test it out you cannot combo rekka off c.mp, if so a lot of us fail at training lol
  • Rioting SoulRioting Soul Joined: Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hoping against hope I guess.:sad:
  • StarNabStarNab Joined: Posts: 195
    Well I think the engine missed the counter hit display on the cr.MP.
    But if you do the maths, it's not completely impossible.

    If we refer to the frame data. It's stated that cr.MP leaves you at +5, provided you hit with the very 1st active frame. But cr.MP has 3 active frames. So if you manage to hit with the last active frame , you'll be at +7 which is exactly what LPrekka needs to link.
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  • Nemesys_SyndromeNemesys_Syndrome What the?! Where?! Joined: Posts: 2,412
    Just out of curiosity...

    why not follow up a cr.lp xx rekka after the cr.mp? it's relatively an easy link compared to the others and not to mention it's more like a hit confirm as to whether you throw out the rekka or not. Range specific maybe?
  • daffudaffu Just Say No Joined: Posts: 39
    Here are a few casual matches I had with my brother online a few weeks ago. Not sure how serious we really were being as in between these matches were some Abel and Dan mirror matches where we just dicked around. Not that I am defending my horrible play or anything lol. I know I have a lot to learn.



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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Hey, was browsing the other character threads and noticed MagMan posted a link to this Japanese Stream. Looks like the tourney starts around 12a EST (now). Check it out to spot some tactics or whatever guys. I'll be watching this for a spell, so I'm logging off, but will probably do more to the match-up thread Saturday night.

    http://www.justin.tv/nsb_sf4
  • StarNabStarNab Joined: Posts: 195
    Hey guys, i've recently discovered that the card capture I bought last week could be use on justin.tv for streaming.
    Only problem is that there's no sound. I won't be posting everytime i'll be on indeed. But if i'm having an interesting session I might drop by.
    I'm on GMT + 2 so the actual time here is 12PM.
    http://fr.justin.tv/starnab
    They see me Chicken Wing, they hatin'
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  • AvengerAvenger Wise One Joined: Posts: 141
    Here's a couple of videos of me playing some Player Matches on XBL.
    Vs Akuma


    Vs Balrog
    Vs Blanka
    Vs Rose
    Vs Rufus
    Vs Ryu
  • RPGv2RPGv2 Joined: Posts: 740
    Just won a TV from the following tourney (40 entrants)
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=7746796#post7746796

    Grand finals are here, vs rog/sim, not sure if there are more vids from this.
    http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/23784
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  • crayzieapcrayzieap Joined: Posts: 94
    Just won a TV from the following tourney (40 entrants)
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=7746796#post7746796

    Grand finals are here, vs rog/sim, not sure if there are more vids from this.
    http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/23784

    wow good stuff. best part is you did it under pressure. good usage of tenshin. kept your composure even if you missed linked and it paid off later in the rounds when you pulled off the bnb combos then :P

    might tell us what model HD tv you won? congrats!
  • crayzieapcrayzieap Joined: Posts: 94
    oh and who was your friend commenting and your personal coach :D damn i wish my best friend would be that awesome... haha

    http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/23780

    "There it is.... There it is! I called it! I called $^#! I called $^#!! I put that right in his head! &%&in ex wakeup. All those ex wakeup fools! Gonna put that $#!# in his head. Get that read! We gonna end this!" --- best friend support I've ever witnessed!!!

    "Where's my money! Where's my money!!!"
  • Super SonicSuper Sonic Joined: Posts: 1,545
    Just won a TV from the following tourney (40 entrants)
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=7746796#post7746796

    Grand finals are here, vs rog/sim, not sure if there are more vids from this.
    http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/23784

    Great Fei Long you got there. Congrats dude!
    Fighting with Conviction Leads to Victory!
  • Hotdawg_SKAHotdawg_SKA Joined: Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Just won a TV from the following tourney (40 entrants)
    http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=7746796#post7746796

    Grand finals are here, vs rog/sim, not sure if there are more vids from this.
    http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/23784

    Great Fei and congrats!

    One thing I notice though is that you could've MK CW over Dhalsim's fireball...it seemed like he would always follow up a yoga fire with a slide so you would've caught him or atleast made him more wary about coming towards you.
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  • RPGv2RPGv2 Joined: Posts: 740
    Thanks guys. Yeah the pressure was insane, most patient rog/sim I've ever faced.

    Have to admit the reads my buddy gets are always spot on, worked for the rog dashes and also sim always backdashing on my chickenwing.

    Hotdawg: yeah I forgot about the MKCW, was funny cause I went on autopilot mode during the sim match and told the people around me so they had to snap me out of it.

    Got this TV on it's way.
    http://www.toshiba.ca/gaming/regza.html
    42" model

    Took 3 tries to finally win a TV tourney and with that win I'm officially done with live tournaments until SSFIV.
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    -RANDOM THAT SHIT!!
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  • bgfbgf Joined: Posts: 198
    Real nice. And that bastard boxer is damn patient. It's like you're both waiting each other to make a mistake. It's not like it's a "stormy" match if you know what i mean, but still thrilling just to watch it. Oh, and congrats on winning the tv.
    current top three main:
    1 FeiLong 78.66% (4597)
    2 Dan 4.56% (267)
    3 ChunLi 4.14% (242)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Nice stuff RPG. Most of your stuff was pretty solid dude. Could have made better choices at certain points match-up/strat-wise, but you were right much more often than you were wrong. BnB was fresh pretty much all the way through (you only really missed when you were out of range for your final low jab into rekka after s.jabs)

    The only real things that I could even suggest switching up or working on would be:

    Ultra - in your match-up with Boxer, you used it maaad early dude...it seriously looked about the same as cl.s.fierce xx rh shien with respect to dmg...save it to get better pay-off later on...remember you get mix-up after landing ultra (Fei can move well before your opponent is able to get up...no quick-rise and left near right in front of you)

    jab rekka - often in your match-up vs Sim, you tried to attack with a normal after forcing him to block your jab rekka BEFORE conditioning him as if you had advantage here...just be aware that you do not and make use of your better, more solid options (there was one point where you shien'd a bad poke from Sim afterward...stuff like that man, good stuff)

    low strong - you could make more use of it and the options you have afterward as far as mix-up

    RH CW - use some anti-backdash/r.teleport here...mk/rh cw again, reaction jab rekka, uf. j.strong/fierce, etc

    Congrats dude and nice new set =)
  • AvengerAvenger Wise One Joined: Posts: 141
    Some more online matches
    Vs Dictator
    Vs Gouki
    Vs Boxer
    Vs Abel
    Looking for some criticism/advice.
  • Hotdawg_SKAHotdawg_SKA Joined: Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Some more online matches
    Vs Dictator
    Vs Gouki
    Vs Boxer
    Vs Abel
    Looking for some criticism/advice.

    Gotta use more flamekick FADC....especially on wakeup or after CW b/c it's such a risk. Use more meaty st. MP against your downed opponents...mix this up with tenshin, tick throws, overhead, cr. MP > rekka pressure. Also cr. MK as anti air is really useful so use it more often.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Avenger

    Thanks for uploading man. Going to critique your match vs Dic and hope to help you out in some aspects of your game if you don't mind. Don't take offense to the straight forwardness.

    :13 online kills reaction time...it happens
    walk forward with normals, block; walk forward, backdash; or use rh cw

    :15 didn't have to stay there. dash forward or ub j.fierce

    :17 didn't have to stay there

    :27 nice crumple...Dic was just walking forward w/o charge
    bad ultra punish...your ultra is barely 1/2 full...just s.fierce xx rh shien or go for s.fierce into rekka reset

    :37 poor safe jump timing..he could have ultra'd you
    ...his teleport was not free. reaction rekka or ex cw. your match must be laggy or your reaction time is lacking

    :56 you guessed right, but you did Shien too early

    :58 confused by the wake-up low strong...it did nothing for you there

    1:16 dash up and rekka punish his stomps

    1:17 bad jump, you got aa'ed for free

    1:31 not trained for your tenshin...force the block and go for cl.s.jab xx ex tenshin or try a different inside game

    2:04 his chip was not guaranteed

    In this match, Dic is content to walk backwards and charge meter for Kneepress. He is using the quick forward movement and safety on block of LK Press to establish his groundgame and gain chip at the same time. You can't use focus freely given it is 2-hitting. You can choose to:
    -play with the range of his lk scissor and try to get it to whiff or move to a distance to where you can focus the 2nd hit and crumple...this is done just by moving in and out

    -use the invincible start-up of rh cw to make him think further about randomly throwing out lk scissors

    -use your normals to hit him out of the move

    -use rekkas to hit him out of the move...neither one of you have invincibility, so you should be filling that space in front of him to safely anticipate lk scissor

    -walk him to the corner

    -move away to build meter and punish his attempts to build meter or force him to walk forward and give up his charge temporarily
  • AvengerAvenger Wise One Joined: Posts: 141
    Na man, I appreciate it. Thanks to you both.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    If you're trying to get a good rep going for yourself, hit up TKK from YouTube. Apparently, he is accepting challenges from whoever wishes. He sets up his recording materials and plays you first-to-3. Footage gets uploaded to YouTube. So, for those who play on XBL or PSN and want to get footage of your gameplay (especially those who don't play in tourney or etc or have your own equip), or just want a shot at TKK, hit him up. I randomly came across this little shindig while checking out the Claw threads.

    iirc, his handle for both systems is TheKingKindred. He is about an average player in ability, but it might be a good challenge for some of you guys.
  • Hotdawg_SKAHotdawg_SKA Joined: Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Tried adding TKK but his list is FULL!!! UGH!
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Oh, don't add him, but send him a msg via YouTube to set the date for challenge. I think you would do very well Tsua.

    Also guys:

    http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8424001

    vs my new main :P nice Fei
  • x_Rock_Lee_xx_Rock_Lee_x The God of Thunder Joined: Posts: 632
    Oh, don't add him, but send him a msg via YouTube to set the date for challenge. I think you would do very well Tsua.

    Also guys:

    http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8424001

    vs my new main :P nice Fei

    You are going to start to main Vega ?
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  • bgfbgf Joined: Posts: 198
    Played 15 set of 5 round matches with a Balrog today. Ended up losing 9-6
    Here's one of them:


    PS: all those videos above make me look like a newbie lol
    current top three main:
    1 FeiLong 78.66% (4597)
    2 Dan 4.56% (267)
    3 ChunLi 4.14% (242)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    You are going to start to main Vega ?

    Yah, I like his style (strong mid-game and footsy) as well as placing emphasis on normals and effective use thereof. it just really fits as well, since Fei didn't HAVE to dp as anti-air. if you ever fight a Claw as Fei, then you have permission to use the alternate costume since there will be slicin'. too smooth (although I think Fei beats Claw)

    j/k Seth =) I'm all over da place

    bgf

    Cool man, new vid to watch

    Notes on your match:
  • Hotdawg_SKAHotdawg_SKA Joined: Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Oh, don't add him, but send him a msg via YouTube to set the date for challenge. I think you would do very well Tsua.

    Also guys:

    http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8424001

    vs my new main :P nice Fei

    How come that Fei didn't reversal flame kick to interrupt Vega's rolling crystal flash? You can actually hit him out of it..right before he stabs you with his claw, he is vulnerable. Would've liked to see more tenshin setups as well...did to many blockstrings that lead to no damage and could've done a better job punishing backflips. Plus no cross over attempts? Somewhat too passive but otherwise, very solid Fei.
    I am Hotstuff!
  • bgfbgf Joined: Posts: 198
    How come that Fei didn't reversal flame kick to interrupt Vega's rolling crystal flash? You can actually hit him out of it..right before he stabs you with his claw, he is vulnerable.

    I tried the mash fk during block strings and only able to pull it off like twice out of fifty nine times. I dunno, but could the strength of the rolling attack has something to do with it somehow?
    current top three main:
    1 FeiLong 78.66% (4597)
    2 Dan 4.56% (267)
    3 ChunLi 4.14% (242)
  • bgfbgf Joined: Posts: 198
    bgf

    Cool man, new vid to watch

    Notes on your match:

    I should've said critics are welcomed :rofl:
    Seriously, it's not my best match, but at least I'm not ashamed of it either. In other words, I'd say that's typical of my style. So I'd appreciate any suggestions.

    (boxer's nine hit combo into ultra really hurts damn it.)
    current top three main:
    1 FeiLong 78.66% (4597)
    2 Dan 4.56% (267)
    3 ChunLi 4.14% (242)
  • john4pjohn4p Joined: Posts: 817
    Arturo Sanchez (Seth) vs Justin Wong (Fei Long) @Battlefield Arcadia #7's Finals:



    The second Battlefield Arcadia-tourney in a row won by Wong as Fei.
    I'm glad he only played a few matches as Rose (and Rufus).

    This vid is actually quite helpful as Seth is Fei's 2nd hardest matchup in my opinion (after Zangief).
  • bgfbgf Joined: Posts: 198
    Arturo Sanchez (Seth) vs Justin Wong (Fei Long) @Battlefield Arcadia #7's Finals:



    The second Battlefield Arcadia-tourney in a row won by Wong as Fei.
    I'm glad he only played a few matches as Rose (and Rufus).

    This vid is actually quite helpful as Seth is Fei's 2nd hardest matchup in my opinion (after Zangief).

    Great match. Fun to see how he uses cl.hk/hp to counter j.hp spams. Timing is really tricky though.
    I've noticed there were a few occasions where JW can finish off the match with a fk chip damage but he didn't do it, especially the one after getting in with cw. I wonder what's the reason.
    Apart from that, I'd say he pulled off combos a bit more consistent than last time.

    Seth is a bastard to fight with FeiLong, top five hardest I'd say. Not sure about being the second though. I had more problems against good sagats tbh, or I haven't played real good Seth yet.


    Oh, and it seems the commentators have more respects for FeiLong now. lol
    current top three main:
    1 FeiLong 78.66% (4597)
    2 Dan 4.56% (267)
    3 ChunLi 4.14% (242)
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Rekkas on the ground...

    s.RH/Shien as anti-air...

    EX CW to get through Booms...

    Command throw into free combo...

    low short (chained or linked) xx 3~4 into combo...

    cross-up...

    Seth doesn't duck s.jab while in crouch...

    Fei isn't as naked in that match-up as it seems to some of you guys. Seth easily loses ground here. Booms have to be used a bit further away; hence, Jwong just being able to jump over them. Wall-jumps really aren't that safe even after landing (e.g., dash up into fierce rekka).

    It takes some serious mix-ups and good guesses when Seth loses the ability to punish mistakes (when people start blocking and playing smarter).
  • john4pjohn4p Joined: Posts: 817
    Seth is a bastard to fight with FeiLong, top five hardest I'd say. Not sure about being the second though. I had more problems against good sagats tbh, or I haven't played real good Seth yet.
    Yes, really good Sagats (there are almost none at the PC version's G2-level) are probably still tougher for Fei. It's just that I haven't met many Seths online. And the good ones almost always completely shut me down...

    judge_rl wrote:
    Wall-jumps really aren't that safe even after landing (e.g., dash up into fierce rekka).
    Good to know, thanks.
  • bgfbgf Joined: Posts: 198
    Yes, really good Sagats (there are almost none at the PC version's G2-level) are probably still tougher for Fei. It's just that I haven't met many Seths online. And the good ones almost always completely shut me down...
    That's one of the issue I'd say. We haven't got as much experience in the Seth match up as most of the others.
    current top three main:
    1 FeiLong 78.66% (4597)
    2 Dan 4.56% (267)
    3 ChunLi 4.14% (242)
  • BallaticianBallatician the Thug Joined: Posts: 253
    We haven't got as much experience in the Seth match up as most of the others.

    PC version is pretty quiet... that is for sure.

    I like how Justin is using Fei's s.hk for a lot of AA's. That is something I recently started doing with out realizing it. Such a great tool with a lot of uses. Good match.
  • KiLLaKeLLyKiLLaKeLLy Higher Iron Man Joined: Posts: 594
    hey ballatician, we shoudl get some fei mirrors in sometime. im still learning, but it should be fun. you are in the bay area so we should get like 5 bars i hope. well, that is if you have xbl, im hoping that pc next to your tag is just for decoration.
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