The Beginner's Tekken Dictionary/Basics Thread

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  • frostycykefrostycyke Optic..wha? Joined: Posts: 735
    Those were good shit, I even learned something about launcher reset's, the gears in my mind is turning about conditioning people to tech roll for fear of a launcher and then eating a tech trap.

    O.K., so I know that might not be the newest discovery, but I just started playing DR this year. soit's new to me.

    Thanks for those links
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  • Syxx573Syxx573 Jo Mama Joined: Posts: 8,963
    the videos are ok... take the info with a grain of salt though... a lot of it is wrong... at least u are trying... sorry =\
  • Mr. BastosMr. Bastos Joined: Posts: 2,151
    the videos are ok... take the info with a grain of salt though... a lot of it is wrong... at least u are trying... sorry =\

    didn't really watch them all, but what is wrong? from what I saw it seemed correct.

    EDIT: oh and did your homeboy antonio c tell you it's wrong? cuz I saw his comments, lol (assuming he's the same antionio c. that plays tekken)

    EDIT 2: nevermind saw you comments too
    "I have nothing to lose but my life, and I got that for free."
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  • Syxx573Syxx573 Jo Mama Joined: Posts: 8,963
    ya like... we watched all of em. we were gonna fix mistakes but there's way too many to even go through so we just stopped like 1 minute into part 2. could be better if more time was spent checking facts. it seemed like everything was done in one take too. antonio would be more than happy to help consult for the next one... for the right price. just stop spreading info that is not true and incorrect... and stop guessing. My favorite part is when they are trying to reversal the tackle and like rip couldn't do it so they're just like ummm. ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT. and the other one was like when they said something you can get 3 maybe 4 hits on the wall, and antonio was like... have you seen a combo video. Bruce gets like 7.. steve gets like... 10. The production was really good but i think they need some consulting from an old school player that really understands the ins and outs of the game and not just think that they do. You might know how to beat people but when it comes time to explain stuff, and you have like 2000 people who have watched your video that's seriously bad news, because they are going to think that they know and then they tell other people the wrong information.
  • Mr. BastosMr. Bastos Joined: Posts: 2,151
    ya like... we watched all of em. we were gonna fix mistakes but there's way too many to even go through so we just stopped like 1 minute into part 2. could be better if more time was spent checking facts. it seemed like everything was done in one take too. antonio would be more than happy to help consult for the next one... for the right price. just stop spreading info that is not true and incorrect... and stop guessing. My favorite part is when they are trying to reversal the tackle and like rip couldn't do it so they're just like ummm. ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT. and the other one was like when they said something you can get 3 maybe 4 hits on the wall, and antonio was like... have you seen a combo video. Bruce gets like 7.. steve gets like... 10. The production was really good but i think they need some consulting from an old school player that really understands the ins and outs of the game and not just think that they do.

    Overall I think the information was good, didn't see so much wrong with it.

    and just how oldschool is this antonio c? honestly never heard of the dude, not to down play his skill in anyway but has ever won a major? and who is to say the dudes making the vid aren't oldschool?
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  • VirtuaFighterFourVirtuaFighterFour VirtuaFighter.com Joined: Posts: 1,572
    the videos are ok... take the info with a grain of salt though... a lot of it is wrong... at least u are trying... sorry =\
    Can you do a proper writeup on what's wrong in those videos?
    VF5:FS - Akira, Jean, Wolf, Taka
    VF4/EVO/FT - Wolf, Akira, Goh, Kage, Jacky
    ST - Dictator, Hawk, Boxer, Honda, O.Hawk, Sagat, Ken, O.Boxer, Claw
    3S - Q, Gouki, Ryu III
  • gigabytegigabyte Joined: Posts: 617
    This might be a little off topic but does anyone know if there's an option to adjust the screen scale? I play on a sony 60' and the scale seems kind of off and i don't see a place to adjust it anywhere.
  • [Rip][Rip] Joined: Posts: 17
    Hi guys! Glad to see everyone likes the vids! There will be more!

    FYI, if anythings wrong we will fix it. Its not impossible to change, and its not the end of the world either. We'll be annotating the corrections for the arm bar and even give the exact frames on the tackle escapes asap! ALL FOR FREE, no consulting fees necessary!
  • Syxx573Syxx573 Jo Mama Joined: Posts: 8,963
    Can you do a proper writeup on what's wrong in those videos?

    you could have checked the comments but they were neg bombarded, some of the comments were just flat out deleted too i think. it is one thing to debate theories but being flat out wrong about FACTS is something entirely different. I'm done messing with it.

    I've been refering people to the video still because most of the info is correct and it's good for beginners but it would be like if you were in kindergarten and your teacher told you

    1+1=2
    2+2=4
    4+4=7
    7+7=14
    14+14=... I can't figure this out...well whatever!
  • insomnotekinsomnotek insomno reppa Joined: Posts: 723
    the videos are ok... take the info with a grain of salt though... a lot of it is wrong... at least u are trying... sorry =\

    you really are something syxx. next time you want to take this snob approach, you better back it up with some substance besides "i hold on to antonio c's pocket all day"
  • Syxx573Syxx573 Jo Mama Joined: Posts: 8,963
    you really are something syxx. next time you want to take this snob approach, you better back it up with some substance besides "i hold on to antonio c's pocket all day"

    its ok... whenever that tournament finals is san fran is... what next month? Then people will have a change of heart <3
  • Mr. BastosMr. Bastos Joined: Posts: 2,151
    [Rip] wrote: »
    Hi guys! Glad to see everyone likes the vids! There will be more!

    FYI, if anythings wrong we will fix it. Its not impossible to change, and its not the end of the world either. We'll be annotating the corrections for the arm bar and even give the exact frames on the tackle escapes asap! ALL FOR FREE, no consulting fees necessary!

    good stuff man, keep it coming
    its ok... whenever that tournament finals is san fran is... what next month? Then people will have a change of heart <3

    honestly, I hope you're right cuz you're hyping up this Antonio C to be a Tekken god. I mean the "thomas edison of Tekken"? really? Did he ever place at EVO? considering Heihachi wasn't banned at EVO and they played Tekken 5.0 he should have wrecked everyone, right? jus saying, hope HE can back up YOUR talk.

    IMO, someone from Cali is taking this
    "I have nothing to lose but my life, and I got that for free."
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  • Syxx573Syxx573 Jo Mama Joined: Posts: 8,963
    He's not been to evo AFAIK but been to nats 3 times.. going on 4. And has won several majors over the years so ya... And if they happen to not face each other in the tournament cuz I know RIP will be in it since he won the exhibition... which frankly i thought was awesome because I'm a pad player as well... so he's entered into the finals automatically. And if they happen to not face off in the tournament top 8 or whatever, MMs against Rip and MYK will definitely be going down.

    Like I've said, these guys know how to beat people, that is a cold hard fact that they are the top players in the country, but when it comes to the DEEP ins and outs of this game there's still some things that they still need to learn. Of course NOW it looks bad because several comments were deleted on the videos so it looks like we just kinda went in there and commented but a lot of it were rebuttals to comments that were posted. Anyway I'm done talking about this because actions speak louder than words, and after this I think you'll have a very different opinion on the matter. Egos are going to get crushed and I'm looking forward to it after viewing the disrespectful attitude that the WC has shown over the past year or so... first it was SF now it's going to be T6. :)
  • UNCONKABLE!!!!UNCONKABLE!!!! Joined: Posts: 58
    Tell Antonio C. that I am going to destroy him like I do in EVERY Tekken tournament. :lol:

    conk out,
    not a super vulcan, just...

    ANTONIO CARMONA!!!!
  • 16 Bit16 Bit High Definition Graphics Joined: Posts: 77
    I've played Antonio many times. The guy is good, very smart. I like this hype. Midwest Tekken osu!!!!
  • VirtuaFighterFourVirtuaFighterFour VirtuaFighter.com Joined: Posts: 1,572
    NOW it looks bad because several comments were deleted on the videos so it looks like we just kinda went in there and commented but a lot of it were rebuttals to comments that were posted. Anyway I'm done talking about this because actions speak louder than words, and after this I think you'll have a very different opinion on the matter.
    If you posted your corrections to SRK or TZ they would not be deleted. Why you would come out and criticize a video for not teaching beginners the system of the game correctly...but then fail to actually help the community yourself by posting the correction?

    How can you come down so hard on those tutorial videos yet refuse to offer concrete evidence of what is wrong with those videos? If you are so knowledgeable in T6BR then why not help everyone out and tell us what is wrong in those videos?

    The defense of 'they deleted my YouTube comments' is juvenile. You have a forum here where your comments will not be deleted. So why not use it?

    YouTube comments are limited to a few hundred characters anyways. It's not like you could have typed that much. Why don't you step up for everyone who is a beginner and put people on the right track? We have the people who made the video posting in this thread saying that they'll make corrections. So post those corrections, and if they are right, I'm sure everyone here at SRK or TZ or wherever will back you up.
    VF5:FS - Akira, Jean, Wolf, Taka
    VF4/EVO/FT - Wolf, Akira, Goh, Kage, Jacky
    ST - Dictator, Hawk, Boxer, Honda, O.Hawk, Sagat, Ken, O.Boxer, Claw
    3S - Q, Gouki, Ryu III
  • NeorussellNeorussell Annoy mode ON Joined: Posts: 1,105
    It's great that somebody else is creating Tutorial vids.
    Anyways, it won't stop me from creating mines.
    Variety is good.

    Tekken 6: The Art Of Standing Properly

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  • VictormaruVictormaru Legendary Sannin Joined: Posts: 734
    Oh I randomly found that video on YouTube the other day. It helped me out a lot, man. I try to show it to all my friends too. I appreciate you making that video. Good stuff.

    I wonder why nobody ever bothered to do anything like this a long time ago for the previous Tekken games, lol.
    "Please don't disappoint me." - Orochimaru
  • Mr. BastosMr. Bastos Joined: Posts: 2,151
    It's great that somebody else is creating Tutorial vids.
    Anyways, it won't stop me from creating mines.
    Variety is good.

    Tekken 6: The Art Of Standing Properly

    NeoRussell

    nice vid man :tup:
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    -Setzer FFVI

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  • ShinkuuRShinkuuR Still Pissed Joined: Posts: 1,070
    It's great that somebody else is creating Tutorial vids.
    Anyways, it won't stop me from creating mines.
    Variety is good.

    Tekken 6: The Art Of Standing Properly

    NeoRussell

    Added to first post. Good shit.
    Being the only person to follow the rules, and then getting mocked relentlessly by my peers for it... that's the kind of shit that creates supervillans.
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  • NeorussellNeorussell Annoy mode ON Joined: Posts: 1,105
    Tekken 6: The Art of Buffering.
    Pass it around.

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  • VictormaruVictormaru Legendary Sannin Joined: Posts: 734
    Wow, I didn't know you could buffer like that. That'll make things a lot easier. I'm going to practice now. Thanks, man.
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  • beejbeej Joined: Posts: 5
    any tips for fast back dash cancels with a stick?
  • ryeyooryeyoo Gotta sell drugs Joined: Posts: 134
    Just started tryign out online, and I don't get the wakeup game. I mean I know what buttons does what type of wakeup after watching the videos. It's just I get my ass handed to me to moment I get knocked down by anyone remotely decent. Is there something that'll tell me what beats what?
  • ShinkuuRShinkuuR Still Pissed Joined: Posts: 1,070
    Just started tryign out online, and I don't get the wakeup game. I mean I know what buttons does what type of wakeup after watching the videos. It's just I get my ass handed to me to moment I get knocked down by anyone remotely decent. Is there something that'll tell me what beats what?


    http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3891631#post3891631

    In short:

    Tech Roll:
    -wins against: linear ground attacks(such as stomps)
    -loses against: Tech traps, tech mixups(gotta guess), cross ups
    -advice: This is the most common type of wake up, but you will at least always have to guess when tech rolling next to someone. Most useful after getting hit with something that knocks you back.

    Back Roll:
    -wins against: linear ground attacks, tech setups and traps(will whiff more than likely)
    -loses against: up close mids(will re-float you allowing another juggle)
    -advice: The most dangerous type of wakeup, since you can get rejuggled for free. Do if mostly after attacks that have auto backroll properties.

    Kip Tech:
    -wins against: may go over lows with good timing, may interrupt mids if fast enough
    -loses against: whiff(leaves you open for launchers)
    -advice: This is most useful if used rarely and if the opponent is spaced out from you a bit, since it tends to interrupt alot of attacks on startup. Its safe on block and gives a small advantage on hit.

    Kip up Attack:b+3+4
    -wins against: lows(hops over them)
    -loses against: blocking, SW, mids during the beginning frames.
    -advice: This is really hard to beat during it's active frames as it's range would stuff almost everything, but it's at least -10 on block. It's also sidewalkable. There are different versions of this depending of the character that are safer or they rise differently(this info is for the basic Kip up Attack).

    Diving Attack:f+1+2_b,f+1+2
    -wins against: most attacks done at the same time
    -loses against: SW
    -advice: Diving attacks are mostly for repositioning purposes after a knockdown and as a (poor) mixup after a forward or backroll. If you make them block the attack late in the animation you will get advantage, but if not it's punishable. It's hard to counter after the move comes out, but the fact that you have to forward or back roll first to use it puts you at a huge risk.

    Ankle Kick:d+4 when FUFT
    -wins against: highs, most mids
    -loses against: blocking, SS, hopkicks
    -advice: This is the fastest attack you have to wakeup with, but on block you will get punished(possibly launched). You're even on hit though and you can wake up safely.

    Mid kick:
    -wins against: low crouch, slow attacks
    -loses against: whiff, block
    -advice:around -12 on block. You will get launched on whiff. Knocks down.

    Low kick:
    -wins against: highs, most mids
    -loses against: whiff, block, hopkicks
    -advice: Allows juggle on CH. Around -12 on block. You will get launched on whiff lol.

    In general just be real cafeful about get up kicking. You won't get terribly hurt on block. but you will lose 40% on whiff.

    Standing up:
    -wins against: Non guaranteed oki(stomps, etc)
    -loses against: certain attacks will cause juggle state.
    -advice: This is one of the safest options that you have since it can avoid alot of oki options and allow you to block a direction after standing, but you can get juggled with attacks during certain frames of the standing. Plus it hard for you to switch your block in reaction to an attack until you completely recover. Lets say, if you stand up and Julia is spacing you with 4~2,1 and you hold d/b to block it during the animation, if she swiches to f,f+3 you won't be able to block it if they time it right IIRC.

    *make sure to tap 2 during quickstand to recover quicker*

    Lay down:
    -wins against: attempted tech traps, refloats, etc.
    -loses against: grounded attacks
    -advice: This is the safest option you have to wake up in Tekken. While you do open yourself to strong ground attacks like stomps, you aren't at risk to eat anything more damaging and you can usually tech roll safely afterwards. If they whiff something then just quickstand.

    Side Roll
    -wins against: most ground attacks if done early
    -loses against: Bad guessing
    -advice: This is also another safe way to get up(although slower), especially when you're near the wall. The bad thing is that after the roll you end up in a worse defensive position(I think you end up face down if you were face up before), so if you guess wrong and they see the roll, then can oki you and make it generally harder to get up.



    I might have gotten some of that stuff a little wrong, but that should get you going imo.
    Being the only person to follow the rules, and then getting mocked relentlessly by my peers for it... that's the kind of shit that creates supervillans.
    -Shaft Agent

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  • ryeyooryeyoo Gotta sell drugs Joined: Posts: 134
    Wow, really big and informative post, thank you Shin
  • NeorussellNeorussell Annoy mode ON Joined: Posts: 1,105
    Ryeyoo: This video should help
    image

    ----
    Everybody seems to be getting in to this game.
    While that's good, I seem to notice that most of them are lacking in the basics department.
    Basics are important, which is the reason why I create these videos to help you achieve greatness.

    T6 Basics: Art Of Low Parry


    Practice Leads To Greatness
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    Hi guys, please visit and browse through http://tekken-maniac.blogspot.com/
  • ThreeliThreeli Joined: Posts: 21
    Quick correction to the front page

    Hwoarang's stances are:
    LFF - Left foot forward
    RFF - Right foot forward
    LFS - Left flamingo stance
    RFS - Right flamingo stance

    there's a few common moves between the flamingo stances but they're mostly different.
  • ketlordketlord Joined: Posts: 13
    Nice Post
  • Sir_FlawlessSir_Flawless Joined: Posts: 174
    Man I haven't played Tekken in ages, I think the last Tekken I might have played was 3 on PS1. I really wanna get back into this series again, I dont have the money to buy anything right now but when I do, Tekken will certainly be on the list. I see that T6 BR is pretty popular and that it only came out in 2009, but now they're making TTT 2 and they said that it will come out after SF x Tekken. So do you guy still think T6 BR will get a lot of play even after TTT 2 comes out or is it smart to just get TTT 2?
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  • J.ScogzJ.Scogz Bye Joined: Posts: 2,378
    Question: I picked up T6 last night, and I haven't touched Tekken since... About a month after I picked up T4 for PS2...
    I used to use Bryan/Bruce or Kaz/Jin in TTT... Tried Julia in 4, but hated the game (though I loved her P2 costume)

    Who's good to learn for beginners? This game feels totally different than the older ones. Like, how 3 felt after playing 2 forever.

    I can't seem to wrap around my old characters... Bryan, Bruce, Kaz, Jin, Hei, Nina, and Lee... Any advice on where to start in that regard?

    One more question... T6BR is the one on PS3, yes? I'm getting mixed answers from Google.
    It's been real.
  • manoftheleafmanoftheleaf Tech Hit Tournament Series! Joined: Posts: 544
    Question: I picked up T6 last night, and I haven't touched Tekken since... About a month after I picked up T4 for PS2...
    I used to use Bryan/Bruce or Kaz/Jin in TTT... Tried Julia in 4, but hated the game (though I loved her P2 costume)

    Who's good to learn for beginners? This game feels totally different than the older ones. Like, how 3 felt after playing 2 forever.

    I can't seem to wrap around my old characters... Bryan, Bruce, Kaz, Jin, Hei, Nina, and Lee... Any advice on where to start in that regard?

    One more question... T6BR is the one on PS3, yes? I'm getting mixed answers from Google.

    LOL I have no idea if this is a trolling comment or not! I am no where near qualified to answer this but I shall give it a shot. Yes, T6BR is on the PS3/360. Out of your old character choices I would say: Kaz and Nina are definitely not easy to use. Lee and Bruce are easy/moderate. I am not sure about Bryan, Hei or Jin. Most of the new characters: Lars, Alisa, Bob, Leo and Miguel are fairly easy to use. I am sure if you re-post this in TekkenZaibatsu forums you may get better answers. If you have then more power to you. Right now I am practicing Kazuya's EWGF, one of the hardest moves in the game. I can get it out 40% of the time but getting better at it slowly.
    No my tag is not a NARUTO reference! Its my last name translated from Hawaiian to English!
  • J.ScogzJ.Scogz Bye Joined: Posts: 2,378
    I'd rather not go to TZ.. I have one account... I don't need more.

    EWGF... that's the dragon punch?

    f, neutral, d, d/f+ RP

    That's "hard"? I can do it all the time... The one with the wave dash (Is that still in 6?) was the one that always gave me a hard time...

    I think I used to link 2 of them in TTT, followed by some other random thing... maybe part of his 10 string?
    I really haven't touched Tekken in YEARSSSSS

    Bob... He seems really fast... Top tier? I do dig Lars though...
    It's been real.
  • manoftheleafmanoftheleaf Tech Hit Tournament Series! Joined: Posts: 544
    I'd rather not go to TZ.. I have one account... I don't need more.

    EWGF... that's the dragon punch?

    f, neutral, d, d/f+ RP

    That's "hard"? I can do it all the time... The one with the wave dash (Is that still in 6?) was the one that always gave me a hard time...

    Yes and no.... there are two notations for EWGF. F N D/F+2 and F N D D/F+2 the main difference is that the second command moves you forward a bit. The standard WGF move is 15 frames and easy to pull off but the EWGF is 13 frames and is a just frame move. The D/F+2 must be done at the same time with in a 3 frame window.

    There is a difference between them. You will hear Kazuya go "DORIYA". You can connect 5 or 6 of them and its a fast punisher. It is difficult to master. Getting it 100% of the time at varying intervals from wave dash and applying it is the hardest part.

    Tiers don't matter too much in Tekken but yes Bob and Lars are on most peoples "Top 10 list"
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  • J.ScogzJ.Scogz Bye Joined: Posts: 2,378
    Ahh gotcha. See, stuff I didn't know! :-)

    Thanks. Imma play with Lars though... Seems cool... And I'm really digging this Steve guy too...
    It's been real.
  • Zelkin TalbainZelkin Talbain Joined: Posts: 25
    Am I the only one that figured out that Lee Chaolan could do two (2) bounds in one combo in the first year that Tekken 6 BR was released? I used to do it all the time until they patched it out. All you had to do was launch your opponent, then juggle with 2 left/right combos, bound them, then use his down/forward LK - RP -LK combo move to launch them towards the wall, then bound again after wall splat, and repeat the combo move again. If done correctly this used to give Lee a very impressive 12 to 15 hit combo. Just thought I should share that. ^_^
  • iminthenet2iminthenet2 Joined: Posts: 488
    On TTT2 what is Lar's new attack during Silent Entry and what's the input?
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