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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    I mained Bang in CT but now I feel like my gimmicks won't work cause he is top tier and the tricks are well known now.

    I'm trying to main Mu and finished all her challenges but I still feel like I'm not good with her. Like I don't have a gameplan going in and just try to get 6C counter hits. Even though that move is so unsafe that it comes out by accident a lot when I dash and try to do a combo.

    I'm trying with Hazama but I still suck at combos with him. It's funny cause I played other Hazamas and yea, they can do a combo but they don't use the snake as much to keep people at bay while that's about the only thing I'm good at. I tend to win those battles though, seems spacing beats combos. :sweat:
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  • spinesharkspineshark whooosh Joined: Posts: 34
    I mained Bang in CT but now I feel like my gimmicks won't work cause he is top tier and the tricks are well known now.

    I'm trying to main Mu and finished all her challenges but I still feel like I'm not good with her. Like I don't have a gameplan going in and just try to get 6C counter hits. Even though that move is so unsafe that it comes out by accident a lot when I dash and try to do a combo.
    Fishing for 2C counterhits is safer and easier I think, but 6C isn't really punishable (at least by most characters) as long as you get in the habit of canceling it every time. Use :hcb:C or a D move when it touches them and you're back in the clear, plus you'll have another attack about to come out to keep the pressure up Just make sure you never whiff 6C. Nothing can save you when that happens.
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  • SAB-CASAB-CA Not the Super Argentine Backbreaker! Joined: Posts: 1,106
    Figured I'd drop in and say Makoto is up on XBL right now, as well as the patch to update for her. (If you buy her, it's the same file.)

    The file is something like 84 or so megs. 560 points, unlocks her, her 12 base colors, her 12 additional colors, and her challenge and strat mode stuff.

    I never knew she had a Parry. Hmmm. And a CROSS COUNTA outta parry by pressing D. Fun stuff.

    Anywho, just figured I'd mention it, incase it gets pulled off Live or something for showing up early...
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    Figured I'd drop in and say Makoto is up on XBL right now, as well as the patch to update for her. (If you buy her, it's the same file.)

    The file is something like 84 or so megs. 560 points, unlocks her, her 12 base colors, her 12 additional colors, and her challenge and strat mode stuff.

    I never knew she had a Parry. Hmmm. And a CROSS COUNTA outta parry by pressing D. Fun stuff.

    Anywho, just figured I'd mention it, incase it gets pulled off Live or something for showing up early...

    sick, I'm checking on that right naow!

    EDIT: Got her. She's pretty cool and so far the challenges aren't too bad (I'm on 7). I like her style and didn't know she was a charging char, the different damages thing I mean. I'll do the other challenges a little later.
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  • Peaceful JayPeaceful Jay Joined: Posts: 7
    Unlimited Makoto Footage and challenge mode.



  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,508 mod
    loving makoto, feel like i wasted my time with tao now.

    Guess i'll learn Mu or kune as 2nd's
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  • Ragnorok64Ragnorok64 My muscles have no memory. Joined: Posts: 4,947
    sick, I'm checking on that right naow!

    EDIT: Got her. She's pretty cool and so far the challenges aren't too bad (I'm on 7). I like her style and didn't know she was a charging char, the different damages thing I mean. I'll do the other challenges a little later.
    What do you mean by charge character? Does she charge up like Tsubaki? Does Arcsys have many characters in their games with charge inputs? May from Guilty Gear and Freed from Battle Fantasia, are the only ones I can think. I wonder if Platinum or Valkenhayn will have charge inputs.
  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,508 mod
    she can charge up the power of her D attacks by hold down the button slightly longer. There are 3 lvls the timing is strict tho.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    What do you mean by charge character? Does she charge up like Tsubaki? Does Arcsys have many characters in their games with charge inputs? May from Guilty Gear and Freed from Battle Fantasia, are the only ones I can think. I wonder if Platinum or Valkenhayn will have charge inputs.
    she can charge up the power of her D attacks by hold down the button slightly longer. There are 3 lvls the timing is strict tho.

    Yea, what he said. The regulars aren't that strict and if you get the first one, the rest gives you plenty of time to just look at the bar and do it as opposed to trying to memorize the timing. The one for the end of her qcf, qcf, D special is extremely strict though and I doubt I'll be able to do it consistently no matter how much practice I get.

    They haven't updated the ranked version yet and as a result you can't play her in ranked.
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  • AsteriskBlueAsteriskBlue Joined: Posts: 761
    I am really not liking this new character.

    Does anyone play Jin? I noticed alot of his bnb's start with a 6c but how does Jin actually land a 6c in a real match besides counter hit? Right now it feels like Jin is reliant on counter hits for damage.
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  • Daidoji KageDaidoji Kage Unsafe on hit... Joined: Posts: 1,944
    she can charge up the power of her D attacks by hold down the button slightly longer. There are 3 lvls the timing is strict tho.

    I may be entirely wrong because I haven't got the chance to play Makoto yet, but from the vids I watched today she seems like Tsubaki minus the need to stand around charging, plus a useful super.
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  • N4UsN4Us Joined: Posts: 236
    I'm having some issues with the Makoto DLC. I downloaded both it and the system update, yet I couldn't find her anywhere in the character select screens. I redownloaded her and went back to the title screen like it said, but still no luck. It gave me the extra achievement slots and all but am I just doing something wrong here?
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  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,508 mod
    shes at the bottom left on the select screen
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  • N4UsN4Us Joined: Posts: 236
    Nevermind, restarted the console and now she's showing.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    I am really not liking this new character.

    Does anyone play Jin? I noticed alot of his bnb's start with a 6c but how does Jin actually land a 6c in a real match besides counter hit? Right now it feels like Jin is reliant on counter hits for damage.

    You can connect 6c in an air combo (opponent not you) and if they're crouching so it's fairly easy if you're rushing and happen to catch him while crouching.
    I may be entirely wrong because I haven't got the chance to play Makoto yet, but from the vids I watched today she seems like Tsubaki minus the need to stand around charging, plus a useful super.

    Yea, guess you're right also minus the clothing. :sweat: I played a few player matches and of course I lost the first 2 but after that I started getting the hang of her and managed to actually rush down and connect some stuff. Time to search for some Makoto match vids to give me more ideas but I like her so far and don't feel cheap like when I choose Kune.
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  • CalcalCalcal Joined: Posts: 1,128
    Stuck on Makoto challenge 9.I cant get the second charged punch to connect. Pressing D immediately after 214B it doesn't come out so I have to delay it. But its only connected maybe once or twice.

    Also unlimited Makoto is Dudley.A+B is acorn throw. She gets his taunt counter,machine gun blow which takes one primer if blocked, rush upper and her 100 DD is rolling thunder. She also gets 3S Makoto's Abare Tosonami(sp?) super. She loses her mixup teleports though but she isn't tournament legal so its fine.

    Machinegun blow, Abare Tosonami,236236D combos for I think 8-9k. I can't get the last super to hit but talking with a friend he got it to land.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    Stuck on Makoto challenge 9.I cant get the second charged punch to connect. Pressing D immediately after 214B it doesn't come out so I have to delay it. But its only connected maybe once or twice.

    Also unlimited Makoto is Dudley.A+B is acorn throw. She gets his taunt counter,machine gun blow which takes one primer if blocked, rush upper and her 100 DD is rolling thunder. She also gets 3S Makoto's Abare Tosonami(sp?) super. She loses her mixup teleports though but she isn't tournament legal so its fine.

    Machinegun blow, Abare Tosonami,236236D combos for I think 8-9k. I can't get the last super to hit but talking with a friend he got it to land.

    If you still haven't done 9 look at the sample for the timing on the second charge hit. You pretty much do the ball, launch it, and a little after the ball hits the guy a second time that's when you're supposed to put in 214B, you still have to delay the D button after wards but that's how I've gotten it consistently. The dashing forward B was my problem but I think I got it down for the most part now. On to 10!

    EDIT: 10 finished, it's a lot easier than 9 that's for sure.
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  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,508 mod
    makoto's getting nerfed to the ground.



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  • krazykone123krazykone123 4D Joined: Posts: 2,847
    So do you guys think Makoto is worth the money? because I've been thinking of buying her but I wanted a little more info first
  • Lord KnightLord Knight MONEY. WOMEN. POWER. Joined: Posts: 242
    Really if they take out Parry cancel she's gonna suck balls.
  • Spooty WhiteboySpooty Whiteboy I must break you! Joined: Posts: 2,774
    Don't know if this is in the Makoto trials, but you can combo a juggled 5cc into a lvl 3 2d as long as it is near the first of the combo (and the combo doesn't start with A attacks).

    So, for her throws you can do:

    b+c, 214a~a, 5cc, 2d (lvl 3), dash, 5cc, hj cc, j cc, 623c, d (lvl 3)

    or

    4b+c, 2b, 5cc, 2d (lvl 3), dash, 5cc, hj cc, j cc, 623c, d (lvl 3)

    The second combo should work with an airthrow too.

    The timing is difficult though. The 2d has to be in first of the lvl 3 section or it will whiff.

    It would also work if you landed a random (or comboed) 623c, rapid cancel, 5cc, 2d (lvl 3), etc.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    Don't know if this is in the Makoto trials, but you can combo a juggled 5cc into a lvl 3 2d as long as it is near the first of the combo (and the combo doesn't start with A attacks).

    So, for her throws you can do:

    b+c, 214a~a, 5cc, 2d (lvl 3), dash, 5cc, hj cc, j cc, 623c, d (lvl 3)

    or

    4b+c, 2b, 5cc, 2d (lvl 3), dash, 5cc, hj cc, j cc, 623c, d (lvl 3)

    The second combo should work with an airthrow too.

    The timing is difficult though. The 2d has to be in first of the lvl 3 section or it will whiff.

    It would also work if you landed a random (or comboed) 623c, rapid cancel, 5cc, 2d (lvl 3), etc.

    Cool will give those a go a little later. I immediately found out about that 5cc when I started though, was so happy she had that in order to push people into a corner.
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  • Spooty WhiteboySpooty Whiteboy I must break you! Joined: Posts: 2,774
    I just realized that Makoto does more damage with j.cb than j.cc in juggles.
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  • KumaOsoKumaOso Trust Your Instincts Joined: Posts: 3,752
    makoto's getting nerfed to the ground.



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    Reminds me of RSF. If it's that vital to her game, they need to keep it.

    Also, I was at IPlayWinner earlier and noticed that the characters in SSF4 that I have a preference for have a strong emphasis on rushdown and mixups (meaning I've finally found my style). Do any of the characters strike you as something of this type. From what I can tell, Taokaka might be like that.
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  • CalcalCalcal Joined: Posts: 1,128
    Bang is rushdown and mixups. Litchi has range and corner lock down. Tao can cancel her drive so she passes through you or she can cancel it and jump and if it hits she can bounce away or towards you.
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  • jae hoonjae hoon Flames of Justice Joined: Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    This game frustrates me to no end, half this shit just makes no sense to me. All I can do half way worth a shit is tech out of stuff.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    This game frustrates me to no end, half this shit just makes no sense to me. All I can do half way worth a shit is tech out of stuff.

    I'm getting a little bored of the game myself. Probably just worn out after playing too much but does anyone feel like the community for this game sucks? Just can't put my finger on it but it doesn't have the same experience as other fighters, even the original Blaz.
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  • Spooty WhiteboySpooty Whiteboy I must break you! Joined: Posts: 2,774
    I'm getting a little bored of the game myself. Probably just worn out after playing too much but does anyone feel like the community for this game sucks? Just can't put my finger on it but it doesn't have the same experience as other fighters, even the original Blaz.

    The biggest issue this game has is that it has been out for months. People have been playing the pirated PC version and have already tired themselves of the game, and now that the console version is out they see now reason to buy it.
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  • krazykone123krazykone123 4D Joined: Posts: 2,847
    The biggest issue this game has is that it has been out for months. People have been playing the pirated PC version and have already tired themselves of the game, and now that the console version is out they see now reason to buy it.

    That along with the constant whining over DLC characters = recipe for disaster

    here's hoping more people pick up the game regardless though
  • TheDarkPhoenixTheDarkPhoenix BEHOLD! Joined: Posts: 12,508 mod
    after many hours of play i still suck at this game badly..... and yeah community for this game does suck.
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  • XenigmaXenigma Joined: Posts: 56
    Online population for this game has been about the same as BB:CT's was when I last played that a few weeks ago, which is to say not very big at all. Hopefully it'll pick up some, but theoretically it should be doing a lot better so soon after release...
  • YellowcornYellowcorn ... Joined: Posts: 151
    Online population for this game has been about the same as BB:CT's was when I last played that a few weeks ago, which is to say not very big at all. Hopefully it'll pick up some, but theoretically it should be doing a lot better so soon after release...

    It might pick up considering it's still pretty hard for a lot of people to get the game...
  • SylariSylari Joined: Posts: 1,445
    Well, I've also known some people, me included, who've been sort of avoiding online play for the moment, people doing arcade and story for stuff.. and people intimidated.. I know my few matches online have been a bit.. lopsided, and that can scare some people off for a while.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    Well, I've also known some people, me included, who've been sort of avoiding online play for the moment, people doing arcade and story for stuff.. and people intimidated.. I know my few matches online have been a bit.. lopsided, and that can scare some people off for a while.

    I don't care about getting owned as that's the way to get better. :sweat: It may just be me but I keep getting jerks who quit if they lose once, close the room, or boot me (when I haven't even played yet). And I keep seeing the same people make lobbies, where's everyone else at?
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  • SylariSylari Joined: Posts: 1,445
    I don't care about getting owned as that's the way to get better. :sweat: It may just be me but I keep getting jerks who quit if they lose once, close the room, or boot me (when I haven't even played yet). And I keep seeing the same people make lobbies, where's everyone else at?

    You won't care, and I won't... But a lot of people will... It's disheartening for a lot of people to lose hardcore, and it seems like I run into better players more often in this game ( size thing I guess ) .... which can really piss people off.
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  • JAMSMASTERPJAMSMASTERP Joined: Posts: 389
    I baited a burst for the first time in this game. It felt awesome. I remember playing gg with a friend and i baited his burst and airthrew him out of it. Those two experiences were so awesome. You have to predict exactly what they are going to do.

    I have parried chuns kick super and just defended alot of moves in 3s and cvs2 but they hardly compare with baiting a burst. It just feels so cool.

    I find myself actually being able to instant block a little online. At first i was just normal blocking. Now when i know something is coming i will try and ib it.

    Right now i am playing hazama. What is the timing for the qcb d then c move after his kick dd. Right now i am using dash c then down c. I am really digging his corner combos. He can do alot of damage with his back to the wall. Jumping b on counter hit is godlike. He can kick distortion drive, dash up combo. He can land into whatever b and b he wants. The only things i havent really gotten down yet are his combos where there are more than like 2 snake arm things. And for some reason i cant combo his serpent dd after dp and d reliably. LOL eternal coils of the dragon serpent. I love when he says that shit. My favorite thing to do to end a match is back throw into umm e.c.o.t.d.s. I like trying to ume shoryu sometimes with his dp and d. Sometimes i like to just style on dudes. It is alot of fun. Sometimes i feel like i can always make an epic comeback.
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  • CalcalCalcal Joined: Posts: 1,128
    I feel like I am abusing the hell out of Makoto's HCB+F D distortion. It's like an almost instant Jin bloodia punch from marvel.

    She is fun to use but it is so hard to get in on Lambda or anyone with a good distance game. At least she has a DP unlike Bang to get out of pressure.
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  • SpoonzSpoonz Trinigamer Joined: Posts: 282 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Has anyone else been getting poor connections online ? I haven't seen anything higher than 0 bar games. Things were never this bad in CT.
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  • mcginnismcginnis Smile :D Joined: Posts: 2,123
    Has anyone else been getting poor connections online ? I haven't seen anything higher than 0 bar games. Things were never this bad in CT.

    Yea, has been getting worse. I used to be able to get a 3 bar but now it's 0-1, 2 if I'm super lucky. And then those guys I do get 2 bar have the 3 bar restriction. :sad:
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  • FuziunFuziun Fuzzy Onion Joined: Posts: 1,080
    Glad to know I'm not the only one that has been experiencing that, I thought it was something going on with my end.
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