NEW "Blazblue Continum: Shift" discussion!!!!!

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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,436 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    It's probably just an error on Amazon's part.

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  • NephinelNephinel Jill - Mistress of Wyverns Joined: Posts: 705
    Hello.

    After watching the Basic Mechanics Tutorial posted earlier this morning, I'm considering picking up BlazBlue Continuum Shift: Extend soon. Totally new to this series, the only other game I've played similar to this is Guilty Gear (GGX, XX#Reload, and Accent Core) and I haven't much gameplay experience with that either (doesn't help that there's a lack of any new GG discussion and that the game is kind of hard to get into by playing solo.....not much free time on my hands to go to tournaments/casuals and all).

    Sorry if I'm being a scrubby casual about things, but are there any notable differences in fundamental gameplay from Guilty Gear to BlazBlue? Will whatever I've learned from GG carry over?
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    A bunch of what you learned from GG should carry over. However, as someone who played Blazblue before Guilty Gear, I'm possibly a little off about some things (partly since even then I haven't played GG all that much), but some basic basic things to keep in mind if you've never played it:

    - There's no 'Dust' so to speak, and there's a "Drive" system instead that is different for every character
    - Gameplay is a little bit slower
    - The Burst system is different in that you have 2 essentially, and all that
    - You have "Guard Primers", which when broken put you in "guard break" and temp stun so you can take big damage.
    - You have a "Barrier Gauge" that allows a second kind of blocking
    - Extremely basic I know, but each character has a weak, medium, strong, and Drive attack, which are known as A,B,C, and D respectively.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    There was a Barrier blocking mechanic already in GG. The Rapid Cancels in BB are similar to Roman cancels, but with much less strict timing. BB is a fair amount more defensive than GG.

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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    There was a Barrier blocking mechanic already in GG. The Rapid Cancels in BB are similar to Roman cancels, but with much less strict timing. BB is a fair amount more defensive than GG.

    Unless you're taking up Ragna in Extend.
  • AirkAirk Joined: Posts: 1,024
    A few clarifications:

    Barrier Gauge is separate from the "heat" gauge, which is what is used for Cancels and supers. I think they were the same in GG?
    Rapid Cancels are EXACTLY THE SAME as Roman Cancels. There are no FRCs, however.

    I don't really know enough about GG to comment beyond that, except to note that some people seem to think that BB has a less consistent feel than GG. Or if you want to look at it the other way, that BB has more variety than GG. ;)
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Yeah, the GG version of barrier consumed the same gauge that supers/roman cancels did.
    Unless you're taking up Ragna in Extend.

    I've played him since CT, I can't wait lol

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  • SaveTheDaySaveTheDay Joined: Posts: 61
    i'm having trouble lading some of hazama's combos. i can't seem to connect 5b, 5c, 3c, snakes benediction, devouring fang. they always tech out before devouring fang connects. what am i doing wrong?
  • NickExtremeNickExtreme Joined: Posts: 41
    i'm having trouble lading some of hazama's combos. i can't seem to connect 5b, 5c, 3c, snakes benediction, devouring fang. they always tech out before devouring fang connects. what am i doing wrong?

    3C > Serpent's Bendection ~ Devouring Fang in the middle of a combo does not combo, unless it stared with a Fatal Counter. It did in CS1, but not in CS2 or Extend. Starting with 3C then Serpernt's Benediction ~ Devouring Fang will work, but fishing for 3C with Hazama is discouraged when you have chains.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    i'm having trouble lading some of hazama's combos. i can't seem to connect 5b, 5c, 3c, snakes benediction, devouring fang. they always tech out before devouring fang connects. what am i doing wrong?

    I'm not really a Hazama player, so I admittedly don't know all that much, but I know from playing him a little bit when CS first came out, that a lot of his combos are a good deal faster than they look, and that there's something with dash canceling 6C that's apparently really tricky.
  • SaveTheDaySaveTheDay Joined: Posts: 61
    3C > Serpent's Bendection ~ Devouring Fang in the middle of a combo does not combo, unless it stared with a Fatal Counter. It did in CS1, but not in CS2 or Extend. Starting with 3C then Serpernt's Benediction ~ Devouring Fang will work, but fishing for 3C with Hazama is discouraged when you have chains.
    i'm playing cs1 (at least i think i am) i bought it off xbl
  • AirkAirk Joined: Posts: 1,024
    i'm playing cs1 (at least i think i am) i bought it off xbl

    Irrelevant where you got it - if you download the latest patch (for free) you are playing CS2 (and you should be.).

    Simple test: Go into training mode, pick Tsubaki and press and hold D. If she continues to "charge" indefinitely, you are playing CS1 and should get the patch. If she stops after charging 1.5 "stocks" worth, you are playing CS2.

    CS2 is version 1.03 on Xbox, I believe. Just go to the XBL marketplace and download the highest numbered free patch you can find.
  • SaveTheDaySaveTheDay Joined: Posts: 61
    Irrelevant where you got it - if you download the latest patch (for free) you are playing CS2 (and you should be.).

    Simple test: Go into training mode, pick Tsubaki and press and hold D. If she continues to "charge" indefinitely, you are playing CS1 and should get the patch. If she stops after charging 1.5 "stocks" worth, you are playing CS2.

    CS2 is version 1.03 on Xbox, I believe. Just go to the XBL marketplace and download the highest numbered free patch you can find.
    yeah, i'm playing cs2 thanks for clearing that up. are there any bnb's i should know for hazama in cs2 then?
  • AirkAirk Joined: Posts: 1,024
    Sadly, I am useless with Hazama, so I can't really help you there. Are you doing his challenge mode challenges? Those were all updated for CS2, so they all work, anyway. Not saying they're optimal, but they're at least functional.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Am I the only one wtf'ing at all the fuckups Arksys made in the instruction manual?

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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    Am I the only one wtf'ing at all the fuckups Arksys made in the instruction manual?

    Does that include not putting movelists in?
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    The tutorials make up for that, but just the sheer number of typos and such is crazy to me. I know that it's a nitpicky thing and really the instruction manual doesn't serve much of a purpose outside of explaining the game modes due to all the in-game instruction, but it drives me nuts when a reasonably sized company doesn't spend 5 minutes proofreading something before taking it to print.

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  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    lol hey Airk, I just now realized you were Quietwraith on XBL, you beat my head in with Tsu during some random ranked matches awhile back and I friendied you after. I'll be doing single-player modes this week but next week I'll hit you up for some matches.

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  • AirkAirk Joined: Posts: 1,024
    I don't have Extend right now, so only CS2 matches for me yet.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Ah, gotcha, welp just let me know when you get a chance to pick it up. I got heavy into AE and completely fell out of practice since you blew me up, but I at least have that whole 'S-tier Ragna' thing going for me now I guess.

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  • sektrsektr Joined: Posts: 815
    Of course EX gets delayed til the 23rd in Canada due to shipping issues, so fucking typical of Aksys same thing happened with CS...
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  • KrusivKrusiv Joined: Posts: 486
    yeah, i'm playing cs2 thanks for clearing that up. are there any bnb's i should know for hazama in cs2 then?
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    Just go to Dustloop for Blazblue info. You won't find much here on SRK.

    Yeah, it's true. Which is a shame because the series is pretty damn legit.
  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,757
    so, picked this game up today

    its no GG, but I never played GG seriously, so as far as characters go I dont really care for any of these blokes. the fighting is really fun though, simple controls like mvc3 but not as stupid of combos. connecting combos is easier than KOF but its not as pretty of a game. overall i like it and ill give it some good time. the con is that i cannot stand number notation and i see dustloop uses that, and that will likely prevent me from getting into this game hardcore
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  • RokmodeRokmode preppy asked me to change my title rip meaty mud flap Joined: Posts: 8,306
    O_O Number notation takes all of 3 seconds to understand. Just look at your numpad.
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  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,757
    it's something ill never get used to, converting it in my head "oh, 6 means down" or whatever. ill stick to the ingame tutorials
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    It took me a little too, but I understand why they use it. It's easier to type up, takes up less space writing down, and can generally be put down more quickly than doing it otherwise.
  • CallistoCallisto Level 3 Fireball Trap Queen Joined: Posts: 1,605
    Yeah it took me longer to get used to SF notations.

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  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,757
    writing d.C took me just as much time to write as 8C
    d.C 8C d.C 8C...eh to each their own. Ill look for letter notation on the net.

    this default guy the tutorial starts you out with seems to be pretty good...imma try and learn all the characters
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  • RokmodeRokmode preppy asked me to change my title rip meaty mud flap Joined: Posts: 8,306
    writing d.C took me just as much time to write as 8C
    d.C 8C d.C 8C...eh to each their own. Ill look for letter notation on the net.

    this default guy the tutorial starts you out with seems to be pretty good...imma try and learn all the characters
    What about when you get into motions with a lot of directions? It's certainly easier to just type 5 numbers than it is to type out down,down forward, forward, etc...
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  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,757
    What about when you get into motions with a lot of directions? It's certainly easier to just type 5 numbers than it is to type out down,down forward, forward, etc...
    i never typed out the whole thing, i always just typed d, f, qcf, etc.

    anyways, i wont push the issue, the game shows motions which works well for me. it seems like everything combos with this ragna bloke. havent taken it online, as this is my first time playing the game. i like how you can continue your combo as a blockstring
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  • RokmodeRokmode preppy asked me to change my title rip meaty mud flap Joined: Posts: 8,306
    i never typed out the whole thing, i always just typed d, f, qcf, etc.

    anyways, i wont push the issue, the game shows motions which works well for me. it seems like everything combos with this ragna bloke. havent taken it online, as this is my first time playing the game. i like how you can continue your combo as a blockstring
    Whatever works best for you ^_^
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  • AirkAirk Joined: Posts: 1,024
    Number notation pissed me off for a while at first too, but I got over it. It's not especially complicated, but I remain unconvinced to this day that it has any advantages _EXCEPT_ that it crosses language barriers better than anything that involves abbreviations for english words.
  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,859
    Number notation pissed me off for a while at first too, but I got over it. It's not especially complicated, but I remain unconvinced to this day that it has any advantages _EXCEPT_ that it crosses language barriers better than anything that involves abbreviations for english words.

    That's something I actually hadn't even thought of, and it's probably a good reason to use it to. I think it's done in such a way that it makes things easier for say...English and Japanese players to understand certain things about the same combos, and if you say, speak French or Spanish, then the say....236A>66C>8.D or whatever bit of a combo, would make sense still too.
  • AirkAirk Joined: Posts: 1,024
    That was the part that convinced me that number notation actually had some sort of value other than just being different for the sake of being different. Otherwise, it's kindof a wash and honestly can be easy to make mistakes in - 623 and 236 are a little bit easy to fatfinger, IMHO, as opposed to F,D,DF or QCF (or "DP"). And anyone who thinks 632146A is "easier" than HCB,F+A has been reading this notation for too long. ;)

    On the plus side, it's easy to type in if you hit numlock and actually USE your numeric pad for it. ;)
  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,757
    all i see is 134569532469543948u3 XD

    day 2 of playing this....on the ragna challenge combo where im supposed to combo after a wall bounce. i suck at stick dashing though so i keep fucking it up :(
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    Yeah, and I kind of have to use that for a "left key" since the main one on my laptop's keyboard is broken.
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    sup doods im trying to learn this game add me on psn for free wins

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  • NickRocksNickRocks DeathPlay Joined: Posts: 22,757
    doing the tutorials...the rapid cancels holy fuuuuck
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