Tekken 6 Tier List?

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  • XLCowBoyXLCowBoy Join Date: June 1991 Joined: Posts: 599
    He's not the beast he once was, but he's not as bad as people act like he is.

    Yep. This pretty much sums it up.
    If Tekken had a character that was a ball-sack, and it was playable, I'm pretty sure people would own with it. -FlyMike
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 56,753 mod
    Yeah its funny that lars is still an anomoly for a lot of tekken players. I just picked up lars cuz he looked fun. I'm basically coming back from a 3 year hiatus from tekken play (not even competitive tekken play at that) and the tekken people I met up with at nec seemed to be reakky intrigued by what lars could do. It was funny showing veterans of the game new stuff but that's why I like new characters.

    For me I can see why steve is difficult to play and people tend to stay away from him in tourneys even though he's tops. Though it seems like if steve plays perfectly u just won't win. His ability to constantly carry plus frame momentum makes him extremely strong in a game where just looking for a launch is no longer the key strategy.

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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    They arent. But they are AA tier (Christie only being lower because Eddy has longer limbs.)

    The only thing Chreddy is missing is a quick punisher. Which would make them over the top IMO (imagine if uf+3+4 gave +frames) HSD and RLX mixups are too strong in Tekken 6. They have built in evasive attacks, stances that cant be thrown, that go under mids and highs, good damage off staple launchers, excellent wall carry, nasty combo reset game, juggles off of quick lows and good damage. Not to mention your fate is sealed if they get started in a stance loop mixup in the corner.

    Chreddy could use a little more speed and a decent punisher, but they are definetely way better than over half the cast.


    But what bugs me is it will be almost what...13 years since Chreddy was introduced to the series? and they still get the most hell. Mostly from people who never spent any time learning about what they can do, which is one of the reasons they are such a threat this time around.


    And mind you, ill be controversial and say that the Japanese play a good Chreddy, but they dont stance enough. Even Qdogg plays a pretty stoic Chreddy. Somebody needs to really come out the woodworks with some unheard of shit and wow the crowd.

    Quoted for Truth!!!!
    You basically said everything I wanted to say about Chreddy. T6 Chreddy is way better than 5Dr. There mix up game got a whole lot better but your right about the punishment. The only thing I can remotly think of is u/f4 for some type of low crush. More and more people are saying that Chreddy is a force not to be reckoned with this tume around. Look at Impact Clash tourney results. There was a Chreddy in top 5. There were some pretty heavy hitter at that tournament in ATL. If Chreddy was evasive in 5DR, they are hella evasive this time around! Untechable throw setup off of HSP! RLX got a tad faster. Too many things they got better at! I love it!
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 56,753 mod
    U just have to watch misty's eddy on tekken crash to see what eddy is capable of. One of the best mix up characters in the game.

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  • e1j1e1j1 ..... Joined: Posts: 1,794
    RLX mixups are not good....

    Korea also thinks Miguel is good....

    *shrugs*
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  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    i learned a couple basic mixups with eddie and i beat an 800 win marduk my first match.... i really think eddie has potential to be a beast, i didnt even have any juggles, just mixups and i stomped this guy.
  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    Quoted for Truth!!!!
    You basically said everything I wanted to say about Chreddy. T6 Chreddy is way better than 5Dr. There mix up game got a whole lot better but your right about the punishment. The only thing I can remotly think of is u/f4 for some type of low crush. More and more people are saying that Chreddy is a force not to be reckoned with this tume around. Look at Impact Clash tourney results. There was a Chreddy in top 5. There were some pretty heavy hitter at that tournament in ATL. If Chreddy was evasive in 5DR, they are hella evasive this time around! Untechable throw setup off of HSP! RLX got a tad faster. Too many things they got better at! I love it!

    you wanna get some games in and work on some eddie shenanigans and matchups? Im pretty proficient with most of the cast and i want to take eddie to the next level.
  • Sensei RouzuSensei Rouzu Hero for fun Joined: Posts: 3,933
    I didn't think that many people played with Julia The only real thing these lists mean is that more people play with certain characters. which is why mokujin is at the bottom because hardly know one can really become a master mokujin player. You have to know everyone's movesets and adjust them to mokujin's height.

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  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    I didn't think that many people played with Julia The only real thing these lists mean is that more people play with certain characters. which is why mokujin is at the bottom because hardly know one can really become a master mokujin player. You have to know everyone's movesets and adjust them to mokujin's height.

    Julia was considered top early T6.0...along with Hwo/Baek. Run with that.

    Hwo obviously dropped but Julia and Baek still have tools to hang. The game in general is fairly balanced and everyone has gotten more than enough play. It's just now people can fool around more since it's on the console so there's a possibility of finding a few more things.

    and I've seen a lot of people run with Mokujin for jokes or for reals. It's not like it's hard to know at least the basics of everyone and at least 1 BnB juggle. Plus You're getting a bit of an advantage when Moku runs with Bears/Jack since your limbs are longer. More reach, more to work with.
    I don't got those.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 56,753 mod
    Yeah fuck tiers in Tekken. It's not a big deal any ways. You're all trying to get counter hits and sidestep each other's shit. Pick a character that can do that and you're good. That's probably what I like most about the game. As long as you are passionate about a character you can do things with them. No point in getting into long winded discussions about tiers like the SFIV thread. That's one of the reasons I started playing this game...to get away from the tier discussion. The character I use just happens to be pretty gdlk tier wise.

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  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    Yeah fuck tiers in Tekken. It's not a big deal any ways. You're all trying to get counter hits and sidestep each other's shit. Pick a character that can do that and you're good. That's probably what I like most about the game. As long as you are passionate about a character you can do things with them. No point in getting into long winded discussions about tiers like the SFIV thread. That's one of the reasons I started playing this game...to get away from the tier discussion. The character I use just happens to be pretty gdlk tier wise.

    lol yeah tiers in sf4 are fucking ridiculous, and playing a character you like and are passionate about is the way to go. In any sf its always been vega for me.... in sf4 apparently he sucks... i didnt notice, i will fuck shit up with vega all fucking day and you can point at your tiers and shove them up your ass.

    Tekken sees such a variety of characters placing in tourneys i honestly think it comes down more to player skill then anything else, ive seen some really solid zafina players and shes considered shit tier.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    tiers mean nothing. just study the game to the fullest extent and enjoy.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    yes migual top
  • DillyDilly Joined: Posts: 294
    The only thing about tiers in tekken is that the lower the tier your character is the more you have to know about your opponent's character.
  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    The only thing about tiers in tekken is that the lower the tier your character is the more you have to know about your opponent's character.

    not true...
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    you have to know about your opponent's character.

    you shoudl be doing that anyways
  • XLCowBoyXLCowBoy Join Date: June 1991 Joined: Posts: 599
    Tiers really don't mean much in T6, but stating that Bob, Steve, and Lars sucks when compared to Kaz was pretty inaccurate to say the least.
    If Tekken had a character that was a ball-sack, and it was playable, I'm pretty sure people would own with it. -FlyMike
  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    Tiers really don't mean much in T6, but stating that Bob, Steve, and Lars sucks when compared to Kaz was pretty inaccurate to say the least.

    Kazuya can be played against most of the cast in a manner that is very efficient and hard to deal with but bob and steve have too many +frame strings and good setups for Kaz to turtle and punish.

    Something that might be more productive in this thread to argue is the merits of each character... they are trying to do that on TZ but like everything over their its a disorganised fucking mess. No offense to TZ but its such a bitch to find useful and relavant shit for characters.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    you are right about the disorganization. when t5 first came out i made an ultimate thread to fix that problem. wouldve been nice if everyone just followed the example and help keep shit clean. when i post up on there i just ask the questions that have been answered already and bumping the thread. you get idiots complaining that its already been stated but do i wanna go through 20 pages of bullshit when the OP doesnt edit the first post and update?
    some mods dont do shit either.
  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    you are right about the disorganization. when t5 first came out i made an ultimate thread to fix that problem. wouldve been nice if everyone just followed the example and help keep shit clean. when i post up on there i just ask the questions that have been answered already and bumping the thread. you get idiots complaining that its already been stated but do i wanna go through 20 pages of bullshit when the OP doesnt edit the first post and update?
    some mods dont do shit either.

    its too bad srk doesnt have that large of a following from tekken players.... shits usually pretty organised around here.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    yah i see that here in srk. problem in TZ is so many noobs in there asking stupid reptitive questions and nobody even deletes the post or close threads when its obvious how irrelevant it is. some mods do, unfortunately not all of them.
  • filthyrichfilthyrich iBreakGuard Joined: Posts: 104
    i hope no1 gets mad when i say this....
    but tiers dont mean shit in this game AT ALL.


    tiers in tekken 6 (only tekken 6) are popularity contests thats all it is
  • e1j1e1j1 ..... Joined: Posts: 1,794
    Rich has a point. Which is why you'll randomly see a Mishima in top 5 in someone's list. Just let them go...this isn't DR anymore.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    you wanna get some games in and work on some eddie shenanigans and matchups? Im pretty proficient with most of the cast and i want to take eddie to the next level.

    Sure. Hopefully the online play isn't too laggy. I mostly play with people around here in person. Memphis actually has a pretty good Tekken scene.
  • *NAKM**NAKM* Street Fighter newb! Joined: Posts: 40
    With a game as balanced as T6BR, a tier list would be virtually meaningless. Tier lists only come into play with a fighter that's insanely unbalanced. Like MvsC2 or any of the MK games. That's where only a select few can compete in a tournament. With Tekken, that problem is non-existant. Every character in T6 can compete. It's just some you'll have to work harder for your win and be more patient.
  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    Sure. Hopefully the online play isn't too laggy. I mostly play with people around here in person. Memphis actually has a pretty good Tekken scene.

    same here... i just need to find new people around here. yeah my connection is always good barring someone eating up all the internet.
  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,079
    RLX mixups are not good....

    Korea also thinks Miguel is good....

    *shrugs*

    And you dont know what youre talking about.

    A mixup is a 50/50 situation how in the hell is the stance not good when it gives a mixup?

    Shut yo ass up.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    lol flame war imminent?
  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    lol flame war imminent?

    lol im starting to like this thread, whenever tiers get brought up shit gets hot and heavy.
  • DasvanuDasvanu [VØLTÄG3]+ Joined: Posts: 337
    And you dont know what youre talking about.

    A mixup is a 50/50 situation how in the hell is the stance not good when it gives a mixup?

    Shut yo ass up.

    I didn't read the previous post, but all mixups aren't 50/50.

    They're only 50/50 when you HAVE to guess, because both options are too fast to react to.


    But please correct me if I'm getting into something I shouldn't; that's just what I've understood 50/50 situations to be.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    lol im starting to like this thread, whenever tiers get brought up shit gets hot and heavy.

    ive gotten banned so many times in TZ due to my love to instigate and feed trolls in a flame war. i love reading them, it is some of the most hilarious things to read in life.

    laughter is good for the soul. scientifically it releases endorphins which is healthy.
  • frostycykefrostycyke Optic..wha? Joined: Posts: 735
    scientifically it releases endorphins which is healthy

    So does eating chocalate, and having an orgasm.

    Quick everyone! watch prime Seinfield, while eating a snickers and rubbing one out to Lili, who is top 3.
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  • *NAKM**NAKM* Street Fighter newb! Joined: Posts: 40
    And you dont know what youre talking about.

    A mixup is a 50/50 situation how in the hell is the stance not good when it gives a mixup?

    Shut yo ass up.

    RLX can get predictable. Not to mention all you have to do is generic D+4 to knock Chreddy out of it. The only decent options for getting damage are RLX+3~4 and RLX+4~3. Sadly for RLX+4~3, you can block the first hit and then low-parry the second or just block the whole thing and punish.

    It is useful in certain situations with the variety of safe pokes it has but it shouldn't be relied on heavily. It's almost like you kind of have to play Chreddy as if they didn't have RLX.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    So does eating chocalate, and having an orgasm.

    Quick everyone! watch prime Seinfield, while eating a snickers and rubbing one out to Lili, who is top 3.

    awwww no sex for you so you rub one out for the organism, tsk tsk.
  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    so...how bout the Lee wall game?


    just goofin. one thing about T6 is that it's going to be hella crazy trying to get everyone's matchup down.
    I don't got those.
  • DillyDilly Joined: Posts: 294
    RLX can get predictable. Not to mention all you have to do is generic D+4 to knock Chreddy out of it. The only decent options for getting damage are RLX+3~4 and RLX+4~3. Sadly for RLX+4~3, you can block the first hit and then low-parry the second or just block the whole thing and punish.

    It is useful in certain situations with the variety of safe pokes it has but it shouldn't be relied on heavily. It's almost like you kind of have to play Chreddy as if they didn't have RLX.

    Hiya NAKM, didn't realize you were on this forum... Still running that nasty lili?

    Anyway, chreddy has ways to force the mix-up where a generic d+4 will get beaten out, it's just a matter of setting those options up.. I mean, if you want to get technical, if chreddy isn't at +f I think you can still SW and beat both options, although you'll take 1 hit from the low, but the launch won't happen. I know this worked in DR, but not so sure in T6 so correct me if I'm wrong. You can also hop over if chreddy isn't +f the second you see him/her going into relax.

    It's actually still a very good stance, as it's extremely evasive, gives a dangerous guessing game, and the worst that can happen is a float so no one gets a full launch + juggle for the most part.
  • e1j1e1j1 ..... Joined: Posts: 1,794
    And you dont know what youre talking about.

    A mixup is a 50/50 situation how in the hell is the stance not good when it gives a mixup?

    Shut yo ass up.

    You're a scrub....just stop talking.
    It's actually still a very good stance, as it's extremely evasive, gives a dangerous guessing game, and the worst that can happen is a float so no one gets a full launch + juggle for the most part.

    :bgrin: So you think.
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  • JarekovJarekov Thou Art A Bear Joined: Posts: 1,995
    so...how bout the Lee wall game?


    just goofin. one thing about T6 is that it's going to be hella crazy trying to get everyone's matchup down.

    yeah GL with that, im just going to concentrate on matchups with high tier characters.
  • DillyDilly Joined: Posts: 294
    You're a scrub....just stop talking.



    :bgrin: So you think.

    Who can get a full launch on Chreddy during RLX?

    Risk vs Reward, when RLX is used properly, is definitely in Chreddy's favor.
    yeah GL with that, im just going to concentrate on matchups with high tier characters.

    Do that and you'll have a Raven player wipe the floor with you because you didn't know your opponent.

    Every single character in tekken can murder you, and tekken is a game that there are high-level players that use every single character. Mark my words, I'd say there's a 90% chance a Kuma player wins Strong Style...

    Seriously though, this isn't a capcom title, people don't just flock to the top-tier in tekken. They use the character they've been using in most cases, and there are players for every single character in the line up that will run through you if you don't know that match up.
  • e1j1e1j1 ..... Joined: Posts: 1,794
    Who can get a full launch on Chreddy during RLX?

    Risk vs Reward, when RLX is used properly, is definitely in Chreddy's favor.

    YOU JUST DON'T KNOW! lol

    Oh and matchups don't make this game. Every character can rape every character, it's all player skill.
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