The Legend of Zelda thread - Master Sword? Light Arrows? Tunics? Nah son. I'm fighting Ganon naked!

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  • CyntalanCyntalan Joined: Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    just beat the 3rd temple in Phantom Hourglass.

    Bow and Arrow is ass in this game. So very frustrating.

    I think the whip in TS is way worse. :annoy:
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    Aside from the horrible fucking fan, some of these weapons in Spirit Tracks are kinda cool. The lasso and the Sand wand are fun to use.

    Cynt: What's the problem with the lasso? Aside from getting 1;15 in the lasso race, it's pretty easy to use.
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    Played Zelda 1, 2, 3 (Link to the Past is a crappy name, in Japan it's called Triforce of the Gods. Nintendo USA got scared of religous folk. Can't be called 'Past' if it's confirmed to occur after Zelda 2), Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Oracle of Seasons, Oracle of Ages and am playing Gamecube Twilight Princess now. After that I'll either play Wind Waker or Minish Cap. Love the series!

    So far the Oracle Games followed by Zelda 2 are my favorites. The Oracle games for the puzzles and Zelda 2 because it's the most adult game I played - no 'snow white' Link who can talk to animals, no cuckoos, etc. - and I lean towards that a bit more. Twilight seems to be following in those foot steps kinda (Link can talk to animals only as an animal, eh I'll take it) so I'm liking it a lot so far. I suppose I always wanted the series to be more about knights and dragons even though Nintendo doesn't always see it that way. It's cool though, almost any Nintendo game you play you still get hooked on! :smile:

    All of the Zelda manga available in the US is dope! They cover the Oracle Games, Ocarina and Four Swords. 8 volumes so far.

    Anyone mess with any timeline / split time theories regarding which order the games take place? Lancun's done my favorite one and has plenty of follow ups. Of all the ones I've seen his makes the most sense. Yeah hopefully Nintendo will tell us the true order the games take place in at some point. They say they know, but won't tell us... So we are left to speculate for now. :wonder:



    Oh and if you have some free time, there's a hella recent 80+ minute fan film based on Ocarina of Time called The Hero Of Time. It contadicts a lot of aspects of the game and it is VERY BUDGET. However all things considered it's still pretty good and entertaining. Oh and it's better than Dragon Ball Evolution at least. :rofl: :tup:

    http://www.theherooftime.com/

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  • CyntalanCyntalan Joined: Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Aside from the horrible fucking fan, some of these weapons in Spirit Tracks are kinda cool. The lasso and the Sand wand are fun to use.

    Cynt: What's the problem with the lasso? Aside from getting 1;15 in the lasso race, it's pretty easy to use.

    The whip's fine for doing the tarzan, but using it for anything remotely precise such as fighting or puzzle solving, it's far too damn picky and assuming. That, and the incessant need to stop using it after you've done something sometimes but never when you want it to and always when you don't want it to made me hate the fucker. The boss fight involving that thing really irked me. Rolled off the platform so many times due to the suddenly dropping whip action, took me several swings just to grab what I needed to hit the bastard with, and always seemed to stay engaged when I really needed to get the fuck out of dodge. It's just something that I'd have no problem with if it were normal controls instead of the touch screen shit.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,779
    I loved OoT and TP. Soundtrack to both are great. I especially enjoyed the song in TP: .

    I thought that track was called Midna's Lament? eh...If you like the music from TP and OoT check out these 2 OCReMixes

    Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 'No Hope'


    that one has a very small amount of lyrics at the end.

    Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 'Mamacitas in My Valley'
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    Just beat the Ghost Ship.
    Fuck the Ocean King Temple. In the butt.
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    - Nostalgiac bastard. lol

    - Does Spirit Tracks overplay the vehicle gimmick? I liked Phantom Hourglass, but I wasn't too keen on having to travel so much in the boat. Or am I just old school?
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    [QUOTE=JackTenrac!;8091472
    - Does Spirit Tracks overplay the vehicle gimmick?[/QUOTE]

    Yes. Yes it does.
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  • CyntalanCyntalan Joined: Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    - Nostalgiac bastard. lol

    - Does Spirit Tracks overplay the vehicle gimmick? I liked Phantom Hourglass, but I wasn't too keen on having to travel so much in the boat. Or am I just old school?

    Spirit Tracks makes me want Windwaker's boat shit back. It's that bad.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,779
    Anyone mess with any timeline / split time theories regarding which order the games take place? Lancun's done my favorite one and has plenty of follow ups. Of all the ones I've seen his makes the most sense. Yeah hopefully Nintendo will tell us the true order the games take place in at some point. They say they know, but won't tell us... So we are left to speculate for now. :wonder:



    Oh and if you have some free time, there's a hella recent 80+ minute fan film based on Ocarina of Time called The Hero Of Time. It contadicts a lot of aspects of the game and it is VERY BUDGET. However all things considered it's still pretty good and entertaining. Oh and it's better than Dragon Ball Evolution at least. :rofl: :tup:

    http://www.theherooftime.com/

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    Supposedly in an interview Aonuma said that there's actually 2 timelines going on now in the LOZ universe. Which made me :wtf:. God damn Ocarina of Time...time traveling seems to always mess up stuff since Majora's Mask technically probbably takes place in the same breath as OoT since Link went back. I was going to attempt to do a timeline but trying to deal with the time travel thing is making my head hurt lol.


    I also didn't know that they finished that fan movie. I wanted to see it so thanks for the Link.

    Edit:

    oh yeah...I'm gonna go ahead and post this again.

    http://movies.ign.com/dor/articles/863515/legend-of-zelda-movie-trailer/videos/legendofzelda_filmtrailer_040108.html
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    The past few zeldas have sucked. Nintendo needs to follow capcom's lead and do a new 8-bit zelda in LOZ style.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,779
    ^ an 8 bit Zelda? I don't know...that sounds not as appealing as playing 8-bit MM to me. I suppose it would have to be dependent on how it was done.


    Hey Sano...Nintendo shut down that fan film.

    Nintendo Pulls Plug on Zelda Fan Film:
    http://wii.ign.com/articles/105/1057971p1.html
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    The past few zeldas have sucked. Nintendo needs to follow capcom's lead and do a new 8-bit zelda in LOZ style.

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    The OG Zelda was great, but no one wants to see that again, besides they actually redid it back in SNES days in Japan on Nintendo's satellite system or something.

    What Nintendo needs to do is reuse the Wind Waker graphics, shit is still to this day one of the best cel shading I have ever seen done on a console. They've done nice stuff with the DS games, but I would love to see that beautiful animation that the GC was displaying in all its glory in WW, pushed further along. With maybe less ocean.
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  • CyntalanCyntalan Joined: Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    ^ an 8 bit Zelda? I don't know...that sounds not as appealing as playing 8-bit MM to me. I suppose it would have to be dependent on how it was done.


    Hey Sano...Nintendo shut down that fan film.

    Nintendo Pulls Plug on Zelda Fan Film:
    http://wii.ign.com/articles/105/1057971p1.html


    Pff... two weeks it took Nintendo to put a stop on it after its release. That's roughly 13 days too slow for someone to put a stop on something being released on the internet. You know it's being torrented harder than the Star Wars Christmas Special right about now.
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    Hey Sano...Nintendo shut down that fan film.

    Nintendo Pulls Plug on Zelda Fan Film:
    http://wii.ign.com/articles/105/1057971p1.html

    Wow. A fan film? That's random. :rofl: Nintendo's wild like that sometimes.

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  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    The past few zeldas have sucked. Nintendo needs to follow capcom's lead and do a new 8-bit zelda in LOZ style.

    I don't think that's necessary, although if they did do that, they had better include a Second Quest. Hell, do that anyway with the newer Zeldas. What I really want is a straight-up Zelda game, 8-bit or otherwise.

    I beat Spirit Tracks yesterday. I'm done with these versions of Zelda.
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    I beat Spirit Tracks yesterday. I'm done with these versions of Zelda.

    Your thoughts on the train part of the last boss?
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  • CyntalanCyntalan Joined: Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Your thoughts on the train part of the last boss?


    ...wat? :wtf:

    Seriously? A train segment in the middle of the fucking final boss?

    Glad I fucking stopped playing. Got to a point that truly pissed me off so much I refuse to go further. It was in the 4th segment of the Spirit Temple, where you had to fire an arrow through a series of those redirectors, one of which the Phantom was supposed to hold up. The problem was that I had, in the process of figuring out how, isolated myself on a place surrounded by lava death, and the Phantom holding said redirector... but couldn't put it down. As far as I can tell, the only way to make the Phantom put it down is to leave the floor, as I spent a good hour trying to find out. My only choice was to meet my liquid hot magma fate... to which I had to do the whole thing over. After I found out this, I said "fuck it" and put it down for good.

    Seriously, fuck Spirit Tracks.
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    Your thoughts on the train part of the last boss?

    You mean the part that played like an unfun version of Pac-Man? Or the part that came after?
    The train boss seemed easy enough. The part where you had to change tracks so you don't collide into him had me stumped (I guess I didn't stop fast enough, or was I supposed to speed up?), but it wasn't a one-hit kill so it wasn't too bad. I actually like the boss battle after that, where you had to make your way to Zelda's body.

    Oh, and when I learned I had to play the flute during the very last battle...I wasn't impressed.

    @Cyntalan: You can make Zelda drop whatever she's holding by hitting her with something.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,779
    Wow. A fan film? That's random. :rofl: Nintendo's wild like that sometimes.

    "OMG THEY KILLED THE ZELDA MOVIE! YOU BASTARDS!" :rofl:


    That makes me wonder if they're going to attack There Will Be Brawl as well.

    As soon as I'm done with M&L, I'm going to pop in Spirit Tracks and play it. The game is really that frustrating?
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    That makes me wonder if they're going to attack There Will Be Brawl as well.

    As soon as I'm done with M&L, I'm going to pop in Spirit Tracks and play it. The game is really that frustrating?

    For me it was to a degree, but ultimately, it was more annoying than anything. The train crap was so agonizing it hardly made the game worth playing everything else that could have been good about it, and my above example was just the icing on the cake for me. Call me crazy, but I think it's an unforgivable oversight to have a method in which the only way out of the situation you're in is to kill yourself/reset. Of course, if I'm proven wrong and there IS some way to make the Phantom drop the redirector, then I'll take back the unforgivable oversight accusation, but I spent a good long while trying to find out how with no avail. Every interaction with the Phantom is "guide and assume", so any object interaction requires an object to interact with... there didn't seem to be an "object" anywhere that would interact w/ the Phantom after that was in hand.

    Honestly, I don't understand why, if they programmed in the "switch" button between Link and Phantom, that they didn't just let you fucking control the Phantom instead of give it orders. That whole process was on the annoying side, and I'd constantly fuck up and accidentally switch back to Link forgetting that I had to draw a fucking line for the Phantom to follow. That would've solved the whole problem I had above in the first place.
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    You mean the part that played like an unfun version of Pac-Man? Or the part that came after?
    The train boss seemed easy enough. The part where you had to change tracks so you don't collide into him had me stumped (I guess I didn't stop fast enough, or was I supposed to speed up?), but it wasn't a one-hit kill so it wasn't too bad. I actually like the boss battle after that, where you had to make your way to Zelda's body.

    Oh, and when I learned I had to play the flute during the very last battle...I wasn't impressed.

    @Cyntalan: You can make Zelda drop whatever she's holding by hitting her with something.

    Couldn't agree more with the whole thing. I fucking HATED the flute in the last battle. I wanted to throw my DS out the window.
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    @Cyntalan: You can make Zelda drop whatever she's holding by hitting her with something.

    like what? Like, chuck a pot at her? In the place I was in, it was isolated totally, on higher ground than her, and I was out of inventory at the time, which is why I failed at finishing the puzzle. I don't think I actually HAD anything to hit her with with the difference in height.
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    like what? Like, chuck a pot at her? In the place I was in, it was isolated totally, on higher ground than her, and I was out of inventory at the time, which is why I failed at finishing the puzzle. I don't think I actually HAD anything to hit her with with the difference in height.

    Yeah, you can hit her with pretty much anything. You could try tossing bombs at her if you have any.
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    Yeah, you can hit her with pretty much anything. You could try tossing bombs at her if you have any.
    I didn't have any at the time. :sweat:

    Regardless of how much I fucked myself over, I can't think of an instance in a past Zelda where the only choice remaining was to jump in the pit and start over. I noticed in almost every other isolated setup they had something that'd drop an item refill of some sort in order to bail yourself out at the very least, but not in this case. :bluu:

    It was the last straw in this, and hearing about shit like train fights and mid-fight flute playing only makes me not want to pick it up again even more.
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    New Zelda coming Q4 2010? (Warning: Kotaku): http://kotaku.com/5441242/report-new-zelda-out-by-end-of-2010-first-ds-successor-details
    Kotaku wrote:
    The paper also noted that the newest Legend of Zelda sequel will go on sale before the end of 2010 with no note whether this refers only to Japan. The game was first announced at the E3 game expo in Los Angeles back in 2009.

    They quoted a reliable source, so it's not them talking out of their ass.
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    is it me or is twilight princess the easiest zelda game ever created...everything was self-explanatory even if this was your first zelda..

    the hardest is link's awakening on the game boy..using no guides
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    is it me or is twilight princess the easiest zelda game ever created...everything was self-explanatory even if this was your first zelda..

    the hardest is link's awakening on the game boy..using no guides

    imo Zelda 2 was the hardest, the sidescrolling shit had me pissed and i could never seem to find where to go......

    but other than that they are never very hard to me anyways. I think the only ones i haven't played are the oracles and the ds games.


    Ima get flamed for this but i feel TP is second only to OoT /cringe. Followed closely by LttP
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    The hardest Zelda game for me is Oracle of Seasons, without using guides. Figuring out the puzzles was super hard.
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    New Zelda coming Q4 2010? (Warning: Kotaku): http://kotaku.com/5441242/report-new-zelda-out-by-end-of-2010-first-ds-successor-details



    They quoted a reliable source, so it's not them talking out of their ass.


    Yeah, it is a legit quote

    Although, I hope Iwata is bullshitting on them actually getting the next Zelda out by 2010. The fact is, given all we've seen or even heard about the game has been one vague poster image and conflicting accounts from Miyamoto and Aonuma, I don't think concert development has been going on for long. So a 2010 release may mean we could be getting a rushed game (probably simplified for all audiences as well), instead of the well crafted masterpieces we've gotten with previous Zelda games.
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    Yeah, it is a legit quote

    Although, I hope Iwata is bullshitting on them actually getting the next Zelda out by 2010. The fact is, given all we've seen or even heard about the game has been one vague poster image and conflicting accounts from Miyamoto and Aonuma, I don't think concert development has been going on for long. So a 2010 release may mean we could be getting a rushed game (probably simplified for all audiences as well), instead of the well crafted masterpieces we've gotten with previous Zelda games.

    The thing is, we don't know how long this game has been in development. For all we know, they might have started work on the next game right after TP was released. Nintendo isn't known to rush games. There's a chance the game could get delayed.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,779
    Yeah, it is a legit quote

    Although, I hope Iwata is bullshitting on them actually getting the next Zelda out by 2010. The fact is, given all we've seen or even heard about the game has been one vague poster image and conflicting accounts from Miyamoto and Aonuma, I don't think concert development has been going on for long. So a 2010 release may mean we could be getting a rushed game (probably simplified for all audiences as well), instead of the well crafted masterpieces we've gotten with previous Zelda games.


    ppffft...Nintendo? Rushed? Zelda? please...Miyamoto ain't having that lol. If there's so much as a speck out of place that Miyamoto doesn't like the he's going to 'upend the tea table' and end up delaying the game.
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    OOT>Oracle>LTTP>the rest.


    Was anyone disappointed with TP? it was great and I liked all the ideas in it but it just wasn't as fun as most other zeldas IMO.
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    OOT>Oracle>LTTP>the rest.


    Was anyone disappointed with TP? it was great and I liked all the ideas in it but it just wasn't as fun as most other zeldas IMO.

    Not enough new content. Great looks, the wolf thing was interesting but as a whole, they didn't really add a lot to it that was memorable.
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    I played since Zelda II, never played the first Zelda. I'll get around to it, someday..

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    ahem. I got to play a bit of TP at my buddy's and I think the control sucks. It might be better now that we have wiimotion plus.
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    ^ No TP's controls won't get better if you're talking about waggle for sword swipes.
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    Reggie: New Zelda Wii Title Has To Be Perfect
    http://wii.ign.com/articles/106/1060447p1.html

    uh huh...There's no way I'm expecting this to show up in 2010.
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    Reggie: New Zelda Wii Title Has To Be Perfect
    http://wii.ign.com/articles/106/1060447p1.html

    uh huh...There's no way I'm expecting this to show up in 2010.

    I'm thinking holiday season...for Japan at least.

    Anyway, LttP is my favorite (also my first I still remember how many times I died when I finally beat that game and that was about...12 years ago), after that they aren't in any particular order but I did like MM better than OoT and TP was good for the story line (big Zelda lore fangirl), the ending, and Midina, but it was too easy. I wish Nintendo would get beyond the three hit for most boss battles.
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    I still gotta finish up both lttp and MM at some piont....so many games I eventually have to just sit down and finish.