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  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727
    I read over that forum link an it looks like they are having mixed reviews on those..


    Nothing to do with the function or quality of the button itself, just issues with the QD adapters which I'm sure will be ironed out for the next batch.
  • MasherManMasherMan Joined: Posts: 67
    Anyone have a recommendation for a good DiY case?
  • Bacon ManicBacon Manic Werd? Joined: Posts: 97
    Nothing to do with the function or quality of the button itself, just issues with the QD adapters which I'm sure will be ironed out for the next batch.
    Yeah I guess that is true. I was looking for something I could get a bit quicker. Maybe I will just have to wait.
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  • ActionStarFeiLongActionStarFeiLong PAAAAAAAAAUL PHOENIX!!!!!!!!! Joined: Posts: 27
    eBay, Crags list, Trading Post are a few places you could try
    As i mentioned earlier in the last post in parenthesis i had tried the craiglist in most of ohio found nothing and i tried Ebay and couldn't find much. I still can't mess with trading outlet yet on here.
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  • Ace42Ace42 Joined: Posts: 6
    Absolute noob question: What sticks from the stick-list (http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/srk-newbie-saikyo-dojo-arcade-stick-faq-read-this-before-asking-questions.100617/) are PC compatible?

    From what I was reading, it was implied that nearly all of the MadCatz sticks are PC compatible out-of-the-box - is the PS3 WWE Brawl stick PC compatible? Cheers.
  • killscreenkillscreen i get distrac Joined: Posts: 101
    for anybody familiar with the hrap VX SA pcb -- is it possible to reroute the "back" button signal? i hate the cheap little button on the turbo panel, i need to mash coin sounds hard on ggpo.
  • PaperTigrePaperTigre Heartful Modder Joined: Posts: 2,106
    Yes, it is possible, the signal is pretty easy to get to on the main pcb.
  • otterotter PSN: MyBodyIsInfested Joined: Posts: 2,625
    I asked this once before but didn't get a response so forgive me. How do players at tournaments get in-game audio into their headset without cutting it off from the monitor?
  • Bacon ManicBacon Manic Werd? Joined: Posts: 97
    I asked this once before but didn't get a response so forgive me. How do players at tournaments get in-game audio into their headset without cutting it off from the monitor?
    I would imagine there is some kind of audio splitter. So that the stream can also get their audio for the game.
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  • RufusRufus An unexpected database error has occurred. Joined: Posts: 1,772
    From what I was reading, it was implied that nearly all of the MadCatz sticks are PC compatible out-of-the-box - is the PS3 WWE Brawl stick PC compatible? Cheers.

    Yes. Almost anything wired that works with the PS3 or Xbox360 is going to work on the PC.
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  • yes06kinyes06kin Joined: Posts: 40
    hey! i was wondering if there are other places to buy cases outside of FA and foehammer. I was looking at simplecases but can't seem to find more info about them.

    Thank you! =)
  • Boita-cartonBoita-carton Joined: Posts: 216
    Fellow modders, where do you guys buy the wire harness tubing ? The one that looks like fabric and keeps your wirings all sexy and tidy. Can't find where to buy it in europe, maybe I'm searching with the wrong name.
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  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727
    Fellow modders, where do you guys buy the wire harness tubing ? The one that looks like fabric and keeps your wirings all sexy and tidy.


    Braided sleeving.

    I get mine off eBay, seems the cheapest.
  • HanSoo417HanSoo417 Joined: Posts: 103
    just got a madcatz MLG fightstick and want to remove the logo on the front. any advice on how to remove the logo without damaging the plastic? someone said sugar but that didn't work.
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  • JessehJesseh Joined: Posts: 9
    I've got a Madcatz PS3 TE, how to dual mod it? I'd like to use it on my PC as well, and I've got a laptop with nvidia chipset, so it's impossible without dual modding the stick, right? So, yeah, how to do it? Thanks in advance.
  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727
    Jesseh said:

    I've got a Madcatz PS3 TE, how to dual mod it? I'd like to use it on my PC as well


    If you only want to use it on PC then it may simply be the case of finding the correct USB hub to plug the stick into. I forget the name of the type you need.

    If you wanted to dual mod it anyway then IMO use a 360 Fightpad/Brawlpad/Strekken pcb and an IMPv2 board. Lots of soldering required.
  • JessehJesseh Joined: Posts: 9
    gahrling said:

    Jesseh said:

    I've got a Madcatz PS3 TE, how to dual mod it? I'd like to use it on my PC as well


    If you only want to use it on PC then it may simply be the case of finding the correct USB hub to plug the stick into. I forget the name of the type you need.

    If you wanted to dual mod it anyway then IMO use a 360 Fightpad/Brawlpad/Strekken pcb and an IMPv2 board. Lots of soldering required.
    Soldering isn't a problem, but if there is easier way I'm willing to take it. So the USB hub would be nice, too bad you can't remember the type? Maybe someone else? Maybe?
  • Pablo_the_MexPablo_the_Mex HARDBody Joined: Posts: 7,207
    Can the new ps360 PCB power a Happ Perfect 360/Wico optical sticks?
  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Hunts bots. Also pantsu. Joined: Posts: 8,307 mod

    Can the new ps360 PCB power a Happ Perfect 360/Wico optical sticks?

    Yep.
    Additonally, the PS360+ offers easy access to its VCC and ground lines to allow for additional customization, such as LEDs, optical joysticks, or additional controller PCBs.
    Source.
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  • Pablo_the_MexPablo_the_Mex HARDBody Joined: Posts: 7,207

    Can the new ps360 PCB power a Happ Perfect 360/Wico optical sticks?

    Yep.
    Additonally, the PS360+ offers easy access to its VCC and ground lines to allow for additional customization, such as LEDs, optical joysticks, or additional controller PCBs.
    Source.
    Thanks that's what I figured, but when I initially read the documentation over at FA, I was not sure if they just meant Sanwa Flash sticks. I figure so long as I can get on the VCC easily, I can slap in any optical of my choosing. I am trying to rebuild some DC MvC2 sticks, and the ps360 may be the simplest route to take.
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  • brainsawbrainsaw Joined: Posts: 5
    Hi,
    i was wondering if someone may be able to offer some advice...
    I am in the process of building a DIY stick for PC with a hacked USB controller (generic cheapo)
    Everything went well (all buttons are working) until i tested the joystick which only reads left and down,right and up on the stick also read left and down.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated!
  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Hunts bots. Also pantsu. Joined: Posts: 8,307 mod
    brainsaw said:

    Hi,
    i was wondering if someone may be able to offer some advice...
    I am in the process of building a DIY stick for PC with a hacked USB controller (generic cheapo)
    Everything went well (all buttons are working) until i tested the joystick which only reads left and down,right and up on the stick also read left and down.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    What happens when you reverse the connector on the stick?
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  • fakesephirothfakesephiroth Joined: Posts: 1
    HELLO SRK!!! quick noobie question where can i buy a replacement round one mad catz t.e metal plate? if your asking why it's because i bought a used one for 80 bucks for my xbox 360 the previous owner managed to get the buttons real dirty the connectors for the buttons are all bent (to the side!!!) the original soldered plate that held the JLF stick is missing the only thing holding the JLF in place are four screws the previous owner put on there and to my surprise it still works!! i can just return it and get my cash back but i figured it still work why not replace the messed up cables buy new buttons and the metal plate right?? so if anyone can help me out i will really appreciate it. remember its the mad catz street fighter 4 round 1 t.e stick for the xbox 360!
  • brainsawbrainsaw Joined: Posts: 5
    Same thing,i have tried different combinations of the wires from the joysitck directions on the PCB and alll i ever get is left and down.
  • brainsawbrainsaw Joined: Posts: 5
    Would a pictue of my board soldering help at all ?
  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Hunts bots. Also pantsu. Joined: Posts: 8,307 mod
    brainsaw said:

    Would a pictue of my board soldering help at all ?

    It would help, yes.

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  • brainsawbrainsaw Joined: Posts: 5

    It would help, yes.
    Here you go.image
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  • justplainluckyjustplainlucky Joined: Posts: 6
    I have a question regarding installing the ps360+ onto a madcatz round one te (PS3).

    I heard from many people that compatibility isn't an issue, and that after installing it everything should work as normal. EXCEPT for the home button.

    I know that pressing start+select emulates the home button, which makes me wonder; does installing the ps360+ DISABLE the home button? if I press it on my ps3 (or 360 after installing it) will nothing happen?
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  • Raoul DukeRaoul Duke Look on the bright side,suicide. Joined: Posts: 963

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    I got this stick a few days ago and I am having a few issues. All the buttons work, but the directions are messed up. Up does up, left goes left, down goes up, and right goes right and also does a punch input ( I forgot which, I think it was the red colored one in SSFIV training mode, I am at work now. i prolly should have noted that down :/). I think I can figure out the directions, but the punch kinda throws me off. Anyone have any ideas? Or can someone link me to the PCB diagram? I am sure it is out there, but I am having trouble finding it.
    Thanks in advance TTT
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  • AYO?!AYO?! Buttsubusu! Bravo, bravo! Joined: Posts: 12,719
    Ok two questions, I got a PS3 SCV TE stick in the mail a few weeks ago. I take care of my stuff and keep them up and out of the way when not used and up until now it hasn't cause me any problems. But today I've had two very noticeable problems that are irritating to say the least.

    1. The Medium Punch/Triangle/Second button from the top row is out. Won't work on any PS3 fighters or my PC. I am told this is likely a quick connect issue and I'll have to open it up to toggle with the controls...something I have no idea what to do but I'm sure I can easily find, just want a second opinion here.

    2. When using the stick on the Playstation start screen, or even hitting the Playstation button on the stick itself freezes every other button and won't allow me to navigate the PS3 menu. I can press the PS button again on the controller and have it close fine. If I unplug and plug it back in, it usually works until I press the Home button or exit to the main screen where I have to again unplug/plug. Up until today this also worked fine for navigation.

    I have no idea what is causing this, I have it set on default (DP/Unlocked) and even toggling to anything different gives me no reaction.

    Just kind of baffles me and is really a headache, considering I have a 360 TE1 from about four almost five years ago that works perfectly fine with no repairs to this day.

    Any help would be appreciated.
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  • RufusRufus An unexpected database error has occurred. Joined: Posts: 1,772

    ...
    I know that pressing start+select emulates the home button, which makes me wonder; does installing the ps360+ DISABLE the home button? if I press it on my ps3 (or 360 after installing it) will nothing happen?

    For a simple install, this will probably be the case.

    I think I can figure out the directions, but the punch kinda throws me off. Anyone have any ideas?

    There may be some loose wire or solder shorting the button line to the direction lines. It could also be a bad PCB.
    AYO said:

    am told this is likely a quick connect issue and I'll have to open it up to toggle with the controls...something I have no idea what to do but I'm sure I can easily find, just want a second opinion here.

    The trial fix here is 'unplug the button, and plug it back in'. If that doesn't work, you can try manually shorting the button (connecting the two wires that go to it to each other) to see if the lines work.
    AYO said:

    When using the stick on the Playstation start screen, or even hitting the Playstation button on the stick itself freezes every other button and won't allow me to navigate the PS3 menu.

    Not familiar with this one, but could it be that the home button is sticking? Have you tried jiggling the button as you push it down, or giving the side of the stick a sharp tap? (Whack it on the side of the monitor sometimes does help.)
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  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727

    I got this stick a few days ago and I am having a few issues. All the buttons work, but the directions are messed up. Up does up, left goes left, down goes up, and right goes right and also does a punch input ( I forgot which, I think it was the red colored one in SSFIV training mode, I am at work now. i prolly should have noted that down :/). I think I can figure out the directions, but the punch kinda throws me off. Anyone have any ideas?


    I've seen this problem at least twice before, and both times it was caused by a faulty motherboard. Look into replacing it with a 360 Fightpad pcb or PS360+ board.

    I swear, Hori have made some of the worst quality pcb's..

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  • GhazManGhazMan Joined: Posts: 18
    Hi guys, sorry if this has been asked already. I recently successfully built an arcade stick for the ps3 using a ps3 sixaxis pad (spiffy shoes solderless hack) and now I've seriously got the bug to build another one. However I am in the uk and I can't seem to find a supplier in the uk for a ps360+ board as I want to make a multi console one. It will probably cost too much to ship from focus attack to the uk, also I will get stung by the customs and duty charges.

    Does anyone know any uk supplier? Or, What do you think about using one of those multi console datel sticks that cost around £30 on ebay? I could probably take the pcb out of the datel stick but I don't know if they lag or the general quality of the pcb.

    Any advice would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    GhazMan
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  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727
    GhazMan wrote: »
    Hi guys, sorry if this has been asked already. I recently successfully built an arcade stick for the ps3 using a ps3 sixaxis pad (spiffy shoes solderless hack) and now I've seriously got the bug to build another one. However I am in the uk and I can't seem to find a supplier in the uk for a ps360+ board


    *ahem*

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/162222
    GhazMan
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  • Raoul DukeRaoul Duke Look on the bright side,suicide. Joined: Posts: 963
    Can i use a Sparky PWM SMD LED Controller PCB to light up a balltop or just buttons?
    Sorry if this is a dumb question :/

    NVM found it
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  • ChoppaholicChoppaholic Joined: Posts: 38
    I am having a issue with my plexi...I took off a decal and it left the sticky adhesive behind..I went online and saw some tips like WD-40 and dish soap and water will take it off or acetone...nothing has worked so far...the adhesive is gone but it left behind a smudgy residue that will not come off..I heard Goo Gone will work but before I try it I thought id ask the experts here first...any help will be appreciated
  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727
    I am having a issue with my plexi...I took off a decal and it left the sticky adhesive behind..I went online and saw some tips like WD-40 and dish soap and water will take it off or acetone...nothing has worked so far...the adhesive is gone but it left behind a smudgy residue that will not come off..I heard Goo Gone will work but before I try it I thought id ask the experts here first...any help will be appreciated


    Basic label remover should serve you well. It uses citrus oil (usually orange or lemon) along with other chemicals to destroy the adhesive grease. Something like this:

    http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/ppc108/label-remover-200ml/dp/SA01889
  • OrcManneROrcManneR Joined: Posts: 2
    If I want to replace stick and button on my datel arcade pro, do I have to solder? The cables are already soldered to my PCB, right? Cant I just use the same cables for my new buttons?
  • JessehJesseh Joined: Posts: 9
    So, I've got PS3 TE stick. Because my PC is a laptop with nvidia chipset, I can't use the stick on my PC as is, so I'm asking here. Is there possibility of using USB hub that would make using my PS3 stick with my laptop possible? If not, I guess I have to resort to dual modding the stick, so what would be the best/ easiest way to go with this since I'm a total noobie about modding a stick? Thanks in advance, I'm in desperate need for help here.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Dark Knight Joined: Posts: 5,308
    Jesseh wrote: »
    So, I've got PS3 TE stick. Because my PC is a laptop with nvidia chipset, I can't use the stick on my PC as is, so I'm asking here. Is there possibility of using USB hub that would make using my PS3 stick with my laptop possible? If not, I guess I have to resort to dual modding the stick, so what would be the best/ easiest way to go with this since I'm a total noobie about modding a stick? Thanks in advance, I'm in desperate need for help here.
    No. A USB hub only relays the information forwards.

    The issue still lies in your PC's chipset and the stick's PCB. The older PS3 Mad Catz TE wants to do everything via UHCI, your chipset do not accept UHCI protocol.
    If you are new to modding, you want the most all in 1 piece modding solution as possible.

    If you just want PS3 and PC support go with the regular Toodles Cthulhu board as its your best and cheapest option
    If you want PS3 and Xbox 360 Support (that includes PC) go for the PS360+
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  • NefariousJoeNefariousJoe Joined: Posts: 271
    Forgive me if this has been mentioned before, but I really don't know how to phrase the problem succinctly enough for a search (I tried, but I couldn't find anything). So I have two TE sticks and they both have the exact same problem that I haven't the faintest clue how to solve.

    They both hang on the 4 position (so, back on the P1 side) to the point of continuing to, I don't know, transmit it when I move the stick or just let it go. So the character will walk in that direction longer than they should, and a half or quarter-circle motion wont work, the special wouldn't come out. Is the JLF switch sticking, you ask? No, no it is not. I thought it was a simple open up and replace job only to find that apparently that has nothing to do with it. It doesn't have to do with the stick physically getting stuck either, the problem happens when I just push the cherry switch with my finger, too. I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions?
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  • MingoDynastyMingoDynasty I make videos Joined: Posts: 5,272
    Hi I saw that the MCZ SCV stick is on sale at Gameshark store, as well as Amazon for $100 http://www.amazon.com/SoulCalibur-Arcade-FightStick-Edition-Playstation-3/dp/B006EJ38W8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360808376&sr=8-1&keywords=scv+fightstick

    I'm convinced to buy it, but should I get the PS3 or 360 version? My plan is to buy it then dual mod it; I wasn't sure if one version is easier to dual mod than the other.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Dark Knight Joined: Posts: 5,308
    If you going to dual-mod the stick any ways, go for the Xbox 360 version as ether way you need the Xbox 360 PCB.
    You might also want the existing headset jack for the Xbox 360.
    Also in general it is easier to start with a Xbox 360 stick and add PS3 support than the other way around.

    With the Xbox 360 stick you also have more options concerning what board you want to dual mod with (assuming your keeping the Xbox 360 PCB).
    The Cthulhu/ MC Cthulhu, the chimp, the Cerberus, the Kitty TE (for Mad Catz TE sticks for the Soul edition stick get the TE-S harness too), the Ps360+, the Paewang and so on.


    Now if you go with a PS360+ PCB, it does not matter which version of the stick you get as you are gutting out the PCB any ways.
    If you got the PS360+ route you could sell the Xbox 360 PCB off to a modder who might just need the PCB.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Dark Knight Joined: Posts: 5,308
    Forgive me if this has been mentioned before, but I really don't know how to phrase the problem succinctly enough for a search (I tried, but I couldn't find anything). So I have two TE sticks and they both have the exact same problem that I haven't the faintest clue how to solve.

    They both hang on the 4 position (so, back on the P1 side) to the point of continuing to, I don't know, transmit it when I move the stick or just let it go. So the character will walk in that direction longer than they should, and a half or quarter-circle motion wont work, the special wouldn't come out. Is the JLF switch sticking, you ask? No, no it is not. I thought it was a simple open up and replace job only to find that apparently that has nothing to do with it. It doesn't have to do with the stick physically getting stuck either, the problem happens when I just push the cherry switch with my finger, too. I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions?

    Sounds like the joystick it self (or one of the microswitches in the joystick) are sticking.
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  • mrwappazmrwappaz Joined: Posts: 7
    For some reason my Datel Arcade Pro Joystick is not working anymore. I modded the thing with sanwa parts and when I put it in the PS3 it worked at first but than a message pops up that says that the PS3 can't handle the electricity or something like that and than the stick just stoped working. I put the cable in again and than it worked but suddenly stoped working again and this time permanently. So I plugg it into my Xbox 360 and it doesn't work there either. Than i plugg it into my PC and a message pops up that says: a usb device is malfunctioning and has exceeded the navports energy limit. I would be really happy if i could get some help. Here's some pictures on the thing:
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  • OrcManneROrcManneR Joined: Posts: 2
    If I want to replace stick and button on my datel arcade pro, do I have to solder? The cables are already soldered to my PCB, right? Cant I just use the same cables for my new buttons?
  • gahrlinggahrling NeoEmpire.com Joined: Posts: 2,727
    I'm convinced to buy it, but should I get the PS3 or 360 version? My plan is to buy it then dual mod it; I wasn't sure if one version is easier to dual mod than the other.


    360.

    OrcManneR wrote: »
    If I want to replace stick and button on my datel arcade pro, do I have to solder? The cables are already soldered to my PCB, right? Cant I just use the same cables for my new buttons?


    1. Yes
    2. No
    3. No

  • MingoDynastyMingoDynasty I make videos Joined: Posts: 5,272
    Darksakul wrote: »
    If you going to dual-mod the stick any ways, go for the Xbox 360 version as ether way you need the Xbox 360 PCB.
    You might also want the existing headset jack for the Xbox 360.
    Also in general it is easier to start with a Xbox 360 stick and add PS3 support than the other way around.

    With the Xbox 360 stick you also have more options concerning what board you want to dual mod with (assuming your keeping the Xbox 360 PCB).
    The Cthulhu/ MC Cthulhu, the chimp, the Cerberus, the Kitty TE (for Mad Catz TE sticks for the Soul edition stick get the TE-S harness too), the Ps360+, the Paewang and so on.


    Now if you go with a PS360+ PCB, it does not matter which version of the stick you get as you are gutting out the PCB any ways.
    If you got the PS360+ route you could sell the Xbox 360 PCB off to a modder who might just need the PCB.

    gahrling wrote: »
    I'm convinced to buy it, but should I get the PS3 or 360 version? My plan is to buy it then dual mod it; I wasn't sure if one version is easier to dual mod than the other.
    360.

    Thanks for your input. I ended up buying the MCZ SCV 360 stick on Amazon because now the price is $92 USD with free shipping.

    My other question is, which dual modding route should I take? Any pros/cons of cthulhu, chimp, ps360, etc.?
    Post edited by MingoDynasty on
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