The Optical Joystick Discussion

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  • FreezerBFreezerB Joined: Posts: 1,343
    Just out of curiosity, how are the newer P360s? Getting interested in the whole optical joysticks and might as well start at the most accessible.
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  • spideymanspideyman Much Luv to the Midwest Joined: Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    i have a mas stick with a p360 that is a few years old. it's not a wico p360 but i really like it. i use my mas for mvc2 and jap sticks for everything else.
    Much love to the midwest.
  • XMetalXMetal Just Be Madness Joined: Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    i know this was posted somewhere else awhile ago, but i couldn't finde it. can someone link me to the picture that shows how to solder the wires on the ascii clone to the pcb?
  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    I believe this is JDM's diagram..

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  • XMetalXMetal Just Be Madness Joined: Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    ah, thanks so much beast.
  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    Thank you jdm714.
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Thank you jdm714.
    jdm714 is my hero. He knows everything about everything. I want to see a thread where he is corrected so I can feel better about myself. :lol:
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  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    ah, thanks so much beast.

    Thank JDM!! I didn't make it, just passing the info along!
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  • meusmeus Joined: Posts: 2,051
    Yo Ladies and Gentlemens i found the deal of the year and its brand new never used Sanwa Flash1 complete with fucking awesome sticker too.

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  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    How and where?!? Meus you're my hero !! Lol that's too awesome.. Where's your time machine cause I want to buy a BNIB Flash1 also.. Words can't describe.. Can't wait for my ASCII to get here too haha
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  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    Holy shit, meus, how and where is the question of the hour lol, Congrats man, you astound me!


    edit: also how much was the steal??!
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  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    edit: also how much was the steal??!

    if he tells you it might make your ears bleed and your wallet cry... hahah
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  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    haha most likely, I'll take the info via PM too ;] ~~ ~
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  • meusmeus Joined: Posts: 2,051
    How and where?!? Meus you're my hero !! Lol that's too awesome.. Where's your time machine cause I want to buy a BNIB Flash1 also.. Words can't describe.. Can't wait for my ASCII to get here too haha
    How/ by looking on the web site. Where/ on japan country and auction with highest bid won. If i had time machine would have won lots of lottery and buy few flash1 too. Also thanks for ur kind words.
    Holy shit, meus, how and where is the question of the hour lol, Congrats man, you astound me!

    edit: also how much was the steal??!
    Thanks, How same asnwer upper question. If ppl want and need it bad also by looking hard ur dreams will come true.
    Price come to 175 usd
    if he tells you it might make your ears bleed and your wallet cry... hahah
    Price come to 175 usd
    haha most likely, I'll take the info via PM too ;] ~~ ~
    it wasnt cheap but its brand new flash1 cant ask more.
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  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    very good price especially since its brand spanking new, you gotta show me the ways of your japanese auction searching! Godly, man! great stuff, I wanna see that dual flashed out HSS lol
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  • meusmeus Joined: Posts: 2,051
    very good price especially since its brand spanking new, you gotta show me the ways of your japanese auction searching! Godly, man! great stuff, I wanna see that dual flashed out HSS lol
    Thanks the way of my hunt on japan auction is jedi way lol. That is my first flash1 brand new. I had second one scored but the deal went soar so noo 2nd flasf1 for me : (. But im close to score second one again but this time need only more money for it.

    My dual hss will have ascii asnwer on it. Im putting both flash1 on my B_E cases the twins.
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  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    Yo Ladies and Gentlemens i found the deal of the year and its brand new never used Sanwa Flash1 complete with fucking awesome sticker too.

    http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt2/meus/s0z_9-img540x400-1263718735uggkwp99.jpg
    http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt2/meus/s0z_9-img530x400-1263718727pg3brc99.jpg

    I'll never understand why Sanwa threw in a GT-Y Octagonal Gate with every JLHS-8Y FLASH 1 or HS-ASSY FLASH 1 PCB though. But, I suppose they were just trying something different with their joysticks. Great stuff on that brand new FLASH 1 though, meus! It even comes with both wiring harnesses with the quick-disconnects on them and that weird pink accessory thing that came with the FLASH 1s. I STILL have not a clue as to what exactly it's for though! :xeye:

    I'll definitely get one of these someday! And when I do, I'll be doing what you're planning on doing and buying a case from Br0ken_Engli5h and putting it in there. There's not a single joystick case out there more deserving of such a great joystick, in my opinion!
  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    It is a Wire Tap from JST.
    JST CL Connector.

    http://www.jst-mfg.com/product/pdf/eng/eCL.pdf
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  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    It is a Wire Tap from JST.
    JST CL Connector.

    http://www.jst-mfg.com/product/pdf/eng/eCL.pdf

    Oho, jdm714 comes to my rescue again! That's a great specifications sheet, though I still wouldn't know what a wire tap does. I think I get it; it would provide voltage to the Sanwa FLASH 1's voltage wire without having to cut and splice the main voltage wire of the arcade cabinet or something. I do hope someone can explain this one.
  • brighennebrighenne Joined: Posts: 799
    Yeah, that's basically it, you can tap into a preexisting voltage wire without having to solder a new wire to the source.

  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    Not solder; arcade cabinets have a power supply that uses screw down barrier strips for the outgoing power. You can either use that fork QD and screw it down on the +5v source on the power supply, or use the tap to get the power from one of the other wires coming from it, or from the jamma harness.
  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    Yeah, that's basically it, you can tap into a preexisting voltage wire without having to solder a new wire to the source.
    Not solder; arcade cabinets have a power supply that uses screw down barrier strips for the outgoing power. You can either use that fork QD and screw it down on the +5v source on the power supply, or use the tap to get the power from one of the other wires coming from it, or from the jamma harness.

    Aha! Thanks for the replies brighenne and Toodles. Good to know it's not an absolutely necessary component to installing a FLASH 1 into a home arcade stick. :bgrin:

    Speaking of which, does anybody know if the Wico or Happ Perfect 360, ASCII Answer, and Sanwa FLASH 1 PCBs use the same or similar optical mechanisms? I'm just wondering what kind of parts I'd need to buy in order to replace the optics on a dying joystick.
  • dogworthdogworth Joined: Posts: 107
    ascii may have used optics made by sharp, that are now discontinued.
  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    Uh, those look identical to the LED/receiver pairs in the p360 and sanwa flash, and the only company I know of that makes that model isn't sharp. You have a citation somewhere?
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  • dogworthdogworth Joined: Posts: 107
    actually, i don't have anything concrete. i was told by someone who seemed to know what they were talking about that is was made by sharp and was given a part number for them which is discontinued. i'd prefer what i was told to be wrong and would like the correct info if someone has it. i'm looking to fix a burned out ascii. i'll edit the previous post and see if i can get more info about it.
  • XMetalXMetal Just Be Madness Joined: Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    i heard before that the ascii flash clone has a shorter engage distance than the jlf. can someone confirm this and tell me by how much?
  • FreezerBFreezerB Joined: Posts: 1,343
    Can anyone tell me which ASCII sticks have the optical in them? I'd like to try and snipe one in an auction.
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    For PlayStation
    ASCII Stick 3 (?????????3)
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    ASCII Stick Zero 3 (?????????ZERO3)
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    ASCII Stick Justice (????????? ??????)
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    For Dreamcast
    ASCII Stick FT (?????????FT)
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    ASCII Stick FT Special: SNK Version (?????????FT SP SNK?????)
    ?plugin=ref&serial=205

    ASCII Stick FT Special: Capcom Version (?????????FT SP ?????????)
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  • eczangiefeczangief GOD OF 1-HANDED ROM Joined: Posts: 1,877
    If anyone buys the ASCII Stick 3 (programmable) to gut the Opticlone I'll buy the rest of it back form you :]]]]] In fact please do.

    AFAIK there IS a microswitch version of the SNK/Capcom sticks as well so be careful.
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    The SNK and Capcom for PlayStation do not have Optical Joystick.
    But the Dreamcast of SNK and Capcom do have Optical.

    That is why I list only for Dreamcast, and not for PlayStation.
    So there is not really anything to be careful about.
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  • eczangiefeczangief GOD OF 1-HANDED ROM Joined: Posts: 1,877
    I think I've seen them for DC on eBay where they were listed as "***Microswitch Version***" however it could be that the seller jsut swapped out the good bits. :]
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  • masturfadermasturfader Fr:Russia with glove Joined: Posts: 1,425
    crack that sucker open JD
  • meusmeus Joined: Posts: 2,051
    At jdm nice find on the ascii stick now u have optical stick with complete setup plus 2 bonus games.
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  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    Something awesome!

    Congratulations on your find jdm714! I'm insanely happy for you; now you've got an ASCII Optical for your own use! :clapdos:

    Are you planning on taking it out of the stick and transplanting it somewhere else or modding the ASCII Stick FT Special SNK Edition for a different console? Perhaps you're gonna keep it as is and use it for your own Dreamcast?
  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    congrats on the ASCII get !!
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    Who here the one bought this?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330399018893

    I didn't go for it because I didn't want to use more money.
    Went from $61 to $71 to $81 to $86 in the last sixty seconds.

    End $86.00 Bid + $15.00 Shipping = $101.00 total.
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  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    hahah i was in the battle and 71 was me.. and then tried to shoot for 85 ... i tried to keep the cost low but yea.. i shouldnt have played but couldnt resist at the chance for a deal. good shiet for whoever eles I was shooting with.. lol
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    Laugh.
    Cool.
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  • brighennebrighenne Joined: Posts: 799
    So I'm currently searching for a flash dust washer...does anyone have a high res scan that I might use to replicate one if I can't find one?

    btw, congrats jdm, I know I kept seeing posts about you never getting to use one before.

  • kasprfotokasprfoto part time player, part time modder Joined: Posts: 774
    nice find JDM! that SNK version is awesome =)
  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    Congrats jdm =] , I gotta get one of those soon...hmMmm, cant wait to see your impressions :D
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  • spideymanspideyman Much Luv to the Midwest Joined: Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    dang, i was watching that auction but didn't get a chance to get on at the last second. i was planning to throw down $90 on it. it would have been my second one then. oh well........
    Much love to the midwest.
  • meusmeus Joined: Posts: 2,051
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Oh shit meus! Did you buy the aluminum case with the FLASH1? You win if so. I wish I had that kind of disposable income.
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    The NHTRAN328 came with Sanwa FLASH1.
    Bought from fujifilm.

    http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=187341
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  • beastSPLbeastSPL you must drink!! Joined: Posts: 448
    Yo Meus!!! Meus!!!! That's just too awesome.. Wait.. You have. 3rd Flash now right??? The one in the aluminum case, the brand new one, and uhhh another one I can't remember.. Congrats my friend! That looks like a mint Justice stick too!
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  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980

    Great haul, meus! I'm glad to see SOMEONE bought that fujifilm NHTRAN328 stick. I was getting really worried when I saw it unsold after, what was it, 2, 3 weeks? :xeye:

    Anyways, I love the way the ASCII Stick Justice looks. It's very glossy, to say the least, especially the buttons! :lol:
  • meusmeus Joined: Posts: 2,051
    Oh shit meus! Did you buy the aluminum case with the FLASH1? You win if so. I wish I had that kind of disposable income.
    Yes i did Sir...........
    The NHTRAN328 came with Sanwa FLASH1.
    Bought from fujifilm.

    http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=187341
    He is right...............
    Yo Meus!!! Meus!!!! That's just too awesome.. Wait.. You have. 3rd Flash now right??? The one in the aluminum case, the brand new one, and uhhh another one I can't remember.. Congrats my friend! That looks like a mint Justice stick too!
    Thanks beast and i only have 2 flash1 sanwa and 4 optical clones.
    Great haul, meus! I'm glad to see SOMEONE bought that fujifilm NHTRAN328 stick. I was getting really worried when I saw it unsold after, what was it, 2, 3 weeks? :xeye:

    Anyways, I love the way the ASCII Stick Justice looks. It's very glossy, to say the least, especially the buttons! :lol:

    Thanks Ikag........
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  • MiniFooMiniFoo (notmeth)AMPHETAMINE Joined: Posts: 368
    I was very tempted to get that Project Justice stick on YJA, just because I knew that it was going to end up in meus' possession if I didn't. lol
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