Best Ultimate Tech Talk Hang Out Loud Edition Season V

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  • NiteWalkerNiteWalker For me it was Friday. Joined: Posts: 1,668
    Fpr ps1/2 gaming?
    Wegas were definitely top tier a ways back. I had a 32" I paid $1100 for a long time. That thing weighed almost 200lbs.
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  • MiniFooMiniFoo (notmeth)AMPHETAMINE Joined: Posts: 368
    I still have a 34" Wega, and it weighs exactly 200 pounds. Still love it, though.
  • KazujiroKazujiro PSN ID: Kazujiro XBLive: Kazujiro SRK Joined: Posts: 1,631
    Fpr ps1/2 gaming?
    Wegas were definitely top tier a ways back. I had a 32" I paid $1100 for a long time. That thing weighed almost 200lbs.

    Yeah, for gaming with my PS1/PS2/Saturn/N64/SNES/NES systems. My 27" Wega's picture is so bad right now, it was never the same after I paid to have it repaired (it weighs around 150 lbs.)
  • PaperTigrePaperTigre すごい!!!!! Joined: Posts: 2,200
    try out an LS-56, they're the sex.
    Can the LS-56 be mounted in any mass production stick, like say the TE?
  • FreezerBFreezerB Joined: Posts: 1,343
    It's like I have to follow and uber specific recipe where one teaspoon of salt gives you cake, and 1.01 teaspoon of salt gives you crabs.

    I'm going to try and use this analogy all the time.

    That and I gotta get my hands on an optical that won't break the bank. As a university student, this is going to stupid hard.
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  • d_mentiad_mentia Joined: Posts: 205
    Can the LS-56 be mounted in any mass production stick, like say the TE?

    not without modification to the TE's mounting bracket
  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    Can the LS-56 be mounted in any mass production stick, like say the TE?

    Yes.

    For Universal Mounting Bracket like TE, replace default VF Mounting Plate with MS Mounting Plate.
    For non-Universal Mounting Bracket like HRAP 3, then use default VF Mounting Plate.

    Ok, here we go.
    HRAP with no Universal Mounting Bracket.

    PlayStation 2
    HRAP ver.B
    HRAP Amazon Edition
    HRAP SA

    PlayStation 2 with Game License
    HRAP Soul Caliber III
    HRAP Arcana Heart
    HRAP Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2
    HRAP Fate/unlimited codes

    PlayStation 3
    HRAP 3
    HRAP 3 Amazon Edition

    PlayStation 3 with Game License
    HRAP Street Fighter IV
    HRAP BlazBlue
    HRAP Tekken 6

    Xbox 360
    None

    Xbox 360 with Game License
    HRAP Konamistyle Otomedius Gorgeous
    HRAP Tekken 6

    Ok, here we go.
    HRAP with Universal Mounting Bracket.

    PlayStation 2
    HRAP
    HRAP SE

    HRAP 2
    HRAP 2 SA

    PlayStation 2 with Game License
    HRAP Capcom Fighting Jam
    HRAP Tekken 5

    PlayStation 3
    HRAP 3 SA
    HRAP 3 SE

    PlayStation 3 with Game License
    None

    Xbox 360
    HRAP EX
    HRAP EX SA
    HRAP EX SE

    Xbox 360 with Game License
    HRAP Deathsmiles
    HRAP Mushihimesama Futari

    "d_mentia wrote: »
    Can the LS-56 be mounted in any mass production stick, like say the TE?

    not without modification to the TE's mounting bracket

    What?
    TE Mounting Bracket does not need modify.

    Just replace the the VF Mounting Plate that comes with Seimitsu LS-56(-01).
    Replace the VF with Seimitsu MS Mounting Plate.

    MS Mounting Plate is default on Seimitsu LS-33 and LS-55(-01).
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,451 mod
    I still have a 34" Wega, and it weighs exactly 200 pounds. Still love it, though.

    My dad got a 50" Grand Wega for his home theatre. I loved playing games on it since it brought back memories of playing at the arcades in the late 90's when Megalo 50 cabs were pretty common here.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
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  • FunkyFFunkyF Still Scrubby Joined: Posts: 302
    my button ranking:

    top: sanwa obsf/n 30, ps-14g. these are easily the best buttons i've used so far. i rank them highly because its super easy to slide from hp to lp and back. the only downside is that the sanwa are too sensitive at times and the ps-14g are a bit loud.

    Trying out the PS-14gs. Only like them for MvC2 right now, but prefer Sanwas for anything else. Going to give it more time before I completely write them off.

    Still waiting for my LS-32-01, hoping it lives up to the hype!
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,451 mod
    Thank you very much I think Im going with the LS-55 spring over the JLF. Things going to be TIGHT

    You might want to give the stock stick in the TvC SE a whirl since it's stiffer than the JLF, heck a few folks in the thread for that stick actually prefer it to the JLF.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Trying out the PS-14gs. Only like them for MvC2 right now, but prefer Sanwas for anything else. Going to give it more time before I completely write them off.
    I started putting PS-14G on everything after using a Namco and then EX SE. I prefer them to Sanwas and PS-14GN (though I wish they were screw rather than snap-in.) I seem to manage to break off the damned snap-in tabs every time I remove them from a case.

    I was looking up a PCB diagram on Slagcoin yesterday and ended up mirroring the site. If anyone has time to look it over for missing content, broken images, etc. I would appreciate it. I didn't see any when I was skimming it over.

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  • kasprfotokasprfoto part time player, part time modder Joined: Posts: 774
    i also fell in love with PS-14-G's. Kyle, do you have any of Art's Plexi with PS-14-G's mounted? i'm contemplating whether to order some Plexi from Art but don't want to switch to another button (since the plexi adds extra thickness to the CP).
  • Chris [BEANS]Chris [BEANS] Game Over Joined: Posts: 128
    Hmmmm.... Where can I get the clear nuts from the PS-14-KN without buying the whole button?

    I want to use the nuts on the OBSN 30 buttons I have, and don't want to use big orange nuts (oo-er!!).
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  • Fenrir171Fenrir171 c.fp abuser Joined: Posts: 388
    Clicky sticks FTW. I can never feel comfortable playing on a stick that doesn't click.

    yeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss i still find it a bit oddly disconcerting that i cant ear a click... sometimes it makes me feel like i havnt pressed the button...
    I seem to manage to break off the damned snap-in tabs every time I remove them from a case.

    i did this a few days ago on my se when i went to move around the buttons... sad panda...

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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    Just buy Nuts AkihabaraShop.jp from.
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  • black shoemakerblack shoemaker black hatmaker Joined: Posts: 995
    My dad got a 50" Grand Wega for his home theatre. I loved playing games on it since it brought back memories of playing at the arcades in the late 90's when Megalo 50 cabs were pretty common here.

    :wow:50 inch CRT?!??! I bet that weighs 500+. He got that in the Philippines??!? All I know is that if I bought one from Manilla, it wouldn't make the trip down here to Bias City.
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  • RaishinXRaishinX I fell off Joined: Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I seem to manage to break off the damned snap-in tabs every time I remove them from a case.

    Jesus Christ I thought that was just me....
    i just stared at beast for 5 minutes.... hes looking right at me
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    i also fell in love with PS-14-G's. Kyle, do you have any of Art's Plexi with PS-14-G's mounted? i'm contemplating whether to order some Plexi from Art but don't want to switch to another button (since the plexi adds extra thickness to the CP).
    I have a plexi from Art on my TE but that one has PS-14-GN. Unfortunately there's not an all white PS-14G. You have to get a black rim on it which looked weird with a Vewlix red/white color scheme.
    Jesus Christ I thought that was just me....
    What's worse is that I've done it plenty of times and I always manage to break at least one in a set. I press them very gently and they still give. Maybe it's my manly Happ hands. The tabs on my SE stick all but disintegrated. I would highly recommend against removing those buttons unless you're swapping them out.

    And good god at the 50'' CRT. I have a 27'' CRT on my desk that weights at least 100 lbs.
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  • MiniFooMiniFoo (notmeth)AMPHETAMINE Joined: Posts: 368
    And good god at the 50'' CRT. I have a 27'' CRT on my desk that weights at least 100 lbs.

    I'm pretty sure Grand WEGAs are rear-projection, so that makes them a bit lighter.
  • FreezerBFreezerB Joined: Posts: 1,343
    A friend of mine had a 50+ WEGA and it took a moving crew of 7 to move that thing.
    <Toodles> Seven boards assembled. All popped in and tested. All seven with the IC soldered on backwards.
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    A friend of mine had a 50+ WEGA and it took a moving crew of 7 to move that thing.
    :lol:

    Our 36'' CRT takes two people. I keep a 27'' on my desk that hurts my back to rotate between horizontal and vertical. I have to really want to play a game to change it. It's stuck in the vertical position about 90% of the time for shmups.

    I'm getting to the point where I want to try something new. I have a dozen or so sticks and I don't want to feel like I'm actually collecting the things. So far I've tried (excluding knock-offs and cheap sticks):

    iL (Happ) Competition/Super
    JLF
    ASCII Optical
    LS-32
    LS-40 coming today
    LS-56

    I want to get an older Wico P360 but I haven't managed to snag one. I also wanted to try a Suzo stick but no one makes cases that fit them. I'd also take a PS2 Saulabi stick if I could find one at a decent price.
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  • FunkyFFunkyF Still Scrubby Joined: Posts: 302
    Had an extended play session yesterday with the PS-14-Gs and they are starting to grow on me.
    Maybe it's my manly Happ hands.

    This made me lol.
    [Insert witty signature]
  • RoboKrikitRoboKrikit nuclear Joined: Posts: 1,943
    I was just on a conf call at work (outage) and ignoring my 2-year-old behind me. I turned around to find him dunking a red PS-14-K into a bowl of thick sugary milk left over from Fruit Loops. He'd also spooned some onto my TvC stick.

    HAPPY TIMES
  • Crimson_Zero12Crimson_Zero12 ¬_¬ SIDE-EYE MADNESS ¬_¬ Joined: Posts: 659
    So I have an electrical problem with my SE. I recently tossed a PS1 analog pcb in it and the SE's freaked out. When I press two buttons (say, jab and strong) and a diagonal, start and select activate and the diagonal deactivates. Then, when I press three (same two, but hitting short as my third) plus a diagonal, fierce activates with it. Any more and everything activates. I looked through all of my wiring and found nothing different that I've done on my first two dual-mods. I figured that I was fucked.

    So I continue fucking with the inputs and watching the lights activate for no reason and I try the PS2 side of it with a PS3 converter. Everything works just the way it should and I go to try the SE part of it. This time, it works the way it should. I take the converter off and hit up FBA to playtest it before using it for anything else. The same problem as before. I rethink it and notice the only difference is the converter, so I put it back on and try again. Problem solved.

    I'm just leaving this here for anyone that experiences the same issue. I found a fix and I'm content with that.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,451 mod
    I'm pretty sure Grand WEGAs are rear-projection, so that makes them a bit lighter.

    At the very least my dad's is. That said, it takes two people to move it slightly (including the matching base table) whenever we have to access stuff in the back.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • Mr. WarzardMr. Warzard CvS2 Commissioner Gordon Joined: Posts: 783
    No luck in the SF anniversary thread, so I figured I'd repost my question here. I just modded my stick with happ parts, and one of my buttons makes a really loud echoing sound whenever it is pressed during gameplay. The other 7 buttons make a similar sound if you listen closely for it, but this one is super loud. Is this common with new happ buttons and will it go away over time, or is the button maybe defective? So far it seems to work ok.
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  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,209 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    so my order from akihabara shop came today. i ordered some ps-14g buttons to replace the ps-14gn buttons i sold, some seimitsu pearl buttons, one ls-32 round gate, ls-33, ls-55-01, ls-56 shaft and an ls-55 spring, seimitsu octagonal gate, and some other stuff.

    first up, the ls-32 with the round gate is awesome. i <3 non square gates.

    as for my the seimitsu pearl, i'll say they're mid tier. it feels ultra smooth, like a cross between a sanwa obsf/obsn and a seimitsu ps-14. my main gripe is that the buttons are noticeably smaller than the sanwa obsf/n. even though they're 30mm buttons, the plunger takes up quite a lot of room.

    next is the ls-55 with an octagonal gate. its a pretty solid stick. it feels like a cross between the jlf with octagonal gate and an ls-32. it has the large throw from the jlf octagonal and the stiffness of the ls-32. it feels pretty sturdy.

    las but not least is the ls-33. from what i read at slagcoin.com, the ls-56 shaft is compatible with the ls-33 as the stock shaft is too low to be mounted on most arcade sticks. however, i was having problems putting the ls-56 shaft on the ls-33 as it grinds the metal washer. it turns out that you need to put on the shaft cover in order for the shaft to work correctly in the ls-33, which akihabarashop forgot. having no other choice, i took the shaft cover from my used ls-56 and put in on the new ls-56 shaft and then start to put the ls-33 together. it worked like a charm. i was doing vipers fff on my first try which normally takes me 2 to 3 tries to get. the spring was loose but not as bad as people made it out to be. imo, sanwa springs tend to be looser. nevertheless, i replaced the ls-33 spring with an ls-55 spring and it works perfect. definitely my second favorite stick at the moment.
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  • EvelgestEvelgest set the lab on fire. Joined: Posts: 1,385
    I changed the artwork for my custom.. again.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,451 mod
    Random thought: would it be possibly to mod the WiiShaft with quality arcade parts for TVC?
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • spenzaliispenzalii Joined: Posts: 2,017
    I've got to get used to Seimitsu or Sanwa buttons and sticks at some point. My latest work in progress is using a JLW with happ buttons (I'm used to the tension of a competition and I haven't been able to convince myself I don't need the clicky, tactile fee of a cherry switch under the buttons yet). I wonder if it's worth getting a TE or SE and tossing a JLW inside for practice. At least changing the art woud be a snap. I don't think I want to put custom money behind something I may or may not like. But who knows...
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  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    I really would like to use a joytick on my PSP =[ So many greater fighters, and the only option is a shitty analog and "ok" d-pad!
    homebrewers should make an app for joystick detection..!!
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    Broke the nozzle on a full can of laquer :(
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,451 mod
    I really would like to use a joytick on my PSP =[ So many greater fighters, and the only option is a shitty analog and "ok" d-pad!
    homebrewers should make an app for joystick detection..!!

    Well if you had a PSP Go, you could padhack a Sixaxis and use it with that.

    Actually, has anyone very tried to "padhack" a PSP and put it inside a stick case?
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
  • Ketchy KechKetchy Kech RAZALASH Joined: Posts: 862
    Well if you had a PSP Go, you could padhack a Sixaxis and use it with that.

    Actually, has anyone very tried to "padhack" a PSP and put it inside a stick case?

    Can you really? PS3 Sixaxis works with PSP GO? :] I guess ill hold out until it has CFW/homebrew/backup playable capabilities....
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    I wish somebody had a flash dust washer for me.

  • RoboKrikitRoboKrikit nuclear Joined: Posts: 1,943
    I've got to get used to Seimitsu or Sanwa buttons and sticks at some point. My latest work in progress is using a JLW with happ buttons (I'm used to the tension of a competition and I haven't been able to convince myself I don't need the clicky, tactile fee of a cherry switch under the buttons yet). I wonder if it's worth getting a TE or SE and tossing a JLW inside for practice. At least changing the art woud be a snap. I don't think I want to put custom money behind something I may or may not like. But who knows...

    I hate to post advice on stuff I haven't tried yet, but you might be interested in these:

    OBS-30A.jpg
    Sanwa OBS-30A

    OBS-30B.jpg
    Sanwa OBS-30B

    I was planning on picking up some in my next akihabarashop order just for kicks, to try them out and post some impressions. You can get the OBS-M-1 switch separately if you already have OBSN- or OBSF-30s, as they appear to be identical button housings with a different type of switch attached. It also looks like you can swap in Cherry switches if the Omrons it comes with feel too stiff. I recall a post from Per some years back saying he really liked them stock, though.

    You can find them at akihabarashop.jp under Arcade > Buttons > Special.

    Just based on looking at these, I think they'd be pretty nice for a Cherry-style microswitch button. The plunger is relatively short and appears to be centered directly over the switch actuator (unlike Happs), so it should have a pretty direct feel. No way for me to tell how stiff the spring in there is, or if there even is one besides whatever is in the Omron switch. Maybe someone else here has tried these.

    [Note for TEs: I doubt these can fit without cutting up the center plate inside the TE housing.]
  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,830
    The Microswitches are riveted in the thing.
    So it really hard to remove.

    TheRealNeoGeo couldn't remove it.
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  • Saikyo JoeSaikyo Joe that awkward moment Joined: Posts: 2,458
    I was wondering if this was a good alternative to buying and modding a PS3 stick or modding my Xbox stick, as I have to attend the FR tournament and the onlyl PS3 stick I have is a T6 one, and no PS2 stick.
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    The answer to your question is no.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,451 mod
    I was wondering if this was a good alternative to buying and modding a PS3 stick or modding my Xbox stick, as I have to attend the FR tournament and the onlyl PS3 stick I have is a T6 one, and no PS2 stick.
    Why buy a new stick you're going to have to mod anyway when you can simply just mod your existing stick?
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    If there's anything we do best, it's breaking games and then making everyone suffer with all the cheapness.
    -PersiaXO
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