Best Ultimate Tech Talk Hang Out Loud Edition Season V

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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,834
    Poor jdm. I would send you one if I had it. What was the nail polish remover supposed to do? Clean it?

    Acetone is active ingredient in nail polish remover.
    It is a solvent to certain plastics like polystytrene you know.
    That is why can dissolve stryofoam cups and packing peanuts.

    I couldn't find any alcohol, so I went for acetone.
    Laugh.

    I wanted to clean off the yucky.

    I put some nail polish remover on cotton swab, then wipe on controller.
    It is funny because where the liquid touched plastic, it turned lighter.

    Then I placed all parts into small container of acetone!
    Laugh.

    I saw the the liquid turned slight color.
    Thought it was dirt at first.

    Then I saw yellow color where the red buttons were.
    Then I see that the buttons were dissolving.
    Oh man jdm714, that's awful! I recommend you try getting yourself a bottle of Goo Gone to get rid of any grime you might need to remove. One 8 fluid ounce bottle lasts a LONG time, I'm telling ya! I've used that stuff to remove even the toughest adhesives. Once, i used it to remove super glue I accidentally spilled on one of my Sanwa buttons!

    I have a small bottle of that somewhere.
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  • KAKUKAKU Joined: Posts: 73
    seimitsu clear buttons along with its light up mods are extremely overrated.

    i understand the aesthetic value, but why sacrifice performance for looks? that never makes sense to me.

    maybe i'm just biased against the clear buttons as i personally think they're crap. i can't do standing mk into handslaps with gen without scrapping off the skin on my finger.

    how does putting LEDs in a button sacrifice performance?
  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Happiest. Duck. Ever. Joined: Posts: 9,870 mod
    So my gaming PC has been out of service for some time, due to a bad motherboard. Well, I finally upgraded, but when it came in it was bad too.

    So I had a bunch of parts all over my table, testing out different configurations to troubleshoot. For giggles I hooked up the board that wasn't working. While looking up the beep code to see if it was complaining about the same thing that the "new" bad board did (power issues) I found a section in the manual that mentioned 3-pin and 4-pin CPU fan configurations, and noticed the jumper was set to 4-pin. I figured what the hell, and switched it to 3-pin. Computer booted up with no problems.

    ... so yeah, my busted computer actually works -- I just had one jumped pin in the wrong place. Go figure.

    (and yes, I'm returning the new board, as it really is broken)
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  • FreezerBFreezerB Joined: Posts: 1,343
    I'm thinking there should be a thread guide on general troubleshooting of sticks or at least a read-this-thread-before-asking-a-question thread about sticks malfunctioning.
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  • brighennebrighenne Joined: Posts: 799
    So my gaming PC has been out of service for some time, due to a bad motherboard. Well, I finally upgraded, but when it came in it was bad too.

    So I had a bunch of parts all over my table, testing out different configurations to troubleshoot. For giggles I hooked up the board that wasn't working. While looking up the beep code to see if it was complaining about the same thing that the "new" bad board did (power issues) I found a section in the manual that mentioned 3-pin and 4-pin CPU fan configurations, and noticed the jumper was set to 4-pin. I figured what the hell, and switched it to 3-pin. Computer booted up with no problems.

    ... so yeah, my busted computer actually works -- I just had one jumped pin in the wrong place. Go figure.

    (and yes, I'm returning the new board, as it really is broken)

    That is random. Random and stupid. What manufacturer was your mobo from?

  • spenzaliispenzalii Joined: Posts: 2,031
    Happ buttons aren't manly, they are for cheap bastards, what do you expect from microswitched buttons. The whole debate between Sanwa's sensitive SW-68 switch versus Seimitsu's switches is retarded. TBH, I love both and I would prefer them any day over microswitched buttons. Momentary contact buttons ftw.

    Hey now. Some people like the tactile 'clicky' feel of a mircoswitched happ button. One of the main reasons I didn't bother with getting a stick before is that there weren't many good options for a happ based stick. Considering the cost of making the stick, I wouldn't exactly call myself a cheap bastard. To each his own though.

    I have toyed with the idea of using a JLW and some OBS-30B buttons for the closest thing I could get to a happ stick using all sanwa parts. But I'm not even sure the total outlay would be worth it (or what colors I could work out). I need to see what the depth of those buttons are to see what case they could fit.

    As for lights, I don't see how they degrade performance at all. It's just more a 'wow, look what I can do' thing more than anything. I'm wiring up a switch to cut the lights of if I chose.
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  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Happiest. Duck. Ever. Joined: Posts: 9,870 mod
    That is random. Random and stupid. What manufacturer was your mobo from?
    You're right, it's really random. It's an ASUS.

    Strangest thing, though... I'd never have thought that's what it was in a million years, especially since it did work at one time. I just turned it off one day and it stopped working. Two years later, it suddenly does. Oh well.
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  • Sugar_KaneSugar_Kane Joined: Posts: 497
    The amount of money I've wee'd down the drain fixing issues like this with my pc's over the years, is shocking. Partly the reason that I don't game on the PC any more.

    Re Buttons: I find myself flicking between sanwa's and Seimitsu clears. Sometimes I want that sanwa feel and sometimes I want the reassuring and solid 'SNAP' of hitting a seimitsu. I don't think I would cook my beans in either camp indefinately.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,386 mod
    Just picked up a HRAP 3 today for use a project box. Now for some paint/dye, buttons and plexi. In a week or so my mini Versus City should be complete.
  • LeonilLeonil Joined: Posts: 58
    Which buttons do i buy to put images on the inside of them, are they the

    Seimitsu PS-14-KN 30mm Pushbutton

    also what is the URL for shinjin's mod-ing tutorial.
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    I picked up the 2 slot Neo-Geo cab I've been trying to get for the last few weeks. The monitor was out so I ended up ghettofying it with a humble 21 inch SDTV. It makes it easier for console use since my broke ass can't afford a $300 replacement monitor. :rofl:

    neocab.jpg
    6-Button is cooler
    8-Button is dick
  • Sugar_KaneSugar_Kane Joined: Posts: 497
    I picked up the 2 slot Neo-Geo cab I've been trying to get for the last few weeks. The monitor was out so I ended up ghettofying it with a humble 21 inch SDTV. It makes it easier for console use since my broke ass can't afford a $300 replacement monitor. :rofl:

    Man I'd kill for that. Love the MVS style
  • black shoemakerblack shoemaker black hatmaker Joined: Posts: 995
    nice american mvs cab kyle. They are incredibly cheap at this one vender in PDX. I'm thinking about picking one up in a couple months and turning it into a.... MAME CABINET.

    nah just kidding :rofl:

    btw, does anybody have the file for "Seimitsu inside" graphic?
    jerb
  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    nice american mvs cab kyle. They are incredibly cheap at this one vender in PDX. I'm thinking about picking one up in a couple months and turning it into a.... MAME CABINET.

    nah just kidding :rofl:
    It feels evil gutting such a lovely cab. I'd probably get banned from the Neo-Geo forums. :lol: If mine would have come fulling working I wouldn't have touched the thing. They ordered a replacement chassis for the monitor and couldn't get it going. I paid $200 for it sans monitor. It does have the PCB and the two carts. I may resale them to try and recover some of the cost.
    6-Button is cooler
    8-Button is dick
  • Big PocketsBig Pockets likes coffee Joined: Posts: 350
    btw, does anybody have the file for "Seimitsu inside" graphic?

    This sounds like something I need as well.
  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    This sounds like something I need as well.

    I'm with Big Pockets on this one. Seimitsu parts are way too freaking good. They deserve their own sticker! LS-32 and PS-14-G for life people! :rock:
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,386 mod
    I'm with Big Pockets on this one. Seimitsu parts are way too freaking good. They deserve their own sticker! LS-32 and PS-14-G for life people! :rock:

    But would you choose an LS-32 over a Sanwa Flash?
  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    But would you choose an LS-32 over a Sanwa Flash?

    Awww man, d3v, you just asked me a tough question! :lol:

    Optical joysticks and microswitch joysticks are too different of breeds to fairly compare if you ask me. An ASCII Answer feels way too different from a Sanwa JLF for me to even consider them to be remotely similar to one another. Likewise, I really doubt that the Sanwa FLASH 1 meus sold me will be replacing the LS-32 in my heart. The LS-32 is way too good for SHMUPs and besides, it's Seimitsu. I can't abandon the company who makes my favorite buttons and my favorite legacy joystick of all time! :lovin:
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,386 mod
    Awww man, d3v, you just asked me a tough question! :lol:
    I love asking tough questions, and I haven't been able to ask any in this board for some time now.
  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    so i finally scored myself a namco stick from trading my modified ascii sanwa stick.

    the buttons were pretty dirty when i got it but after desoldering the buttons and cleaning it with rubbing alcohol, the buttons look like brand new. i have mixed feelings about this stick. not too fond of its light weight but the parts are superb. they're definitely better than anything hori put out nowadays (hraps included). everything just feels more solid. i dont think i'll use it much, but its a nice stick to collect. i'm tempted to put in an octogate, but it just feels so wrong to modify this stick even though putting in an octogate doesnt modify anything permanently.
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  • Sugar_KaneSugar_Kane Joined: Posts: 497
    I've scored 2 extra Namco's this month, waiting for delivery. I don't particularly like the buttons myself, the stick is pretty good though. The whole attraction for me is just the look of them, and the ultra low profile, they just sing to me.
  • DevilsFangDevilsFang Possibly Constipated... Joined: Posts: 306
    I got a bunch of parts laying around, and I am considering building a supergun out a HRAP. I recently built a supergun, and put it into the smallest box I could fit the power supply in. After finishing It though "Hey a HRAP is much bigger than this box, I should just integrate the supergun right into the stick." I'm sure this is no huge revelation for anyone, but it just came to me.

    I plan to mount the power supply and video encoder inside one HRAP. The Jamma harness will exit the stick where the console cord normally is. On that same side will be a computer style AC pass though for the power supply, as well as the video and audio outputs. On the right side of the stick will be a 15 pin D-Sub that will connect the stick to another HRAP (in the future) for two player support. I am also thinking about breaking the 2nd player control wires out of the Jamma before it goes into the stick to avoid the 15 pin.

    Potential problems I see:

    Space of course, its going to be tight:D

    Because of the double wall design of the HRAP, it is going to take a bit of cutting to get all the connectors mounted in the outside shell of the stick. Not really a big issue.

    Cooling the power supply, I will have to mount a fan in the stick and a vent. Might be a pain to make look right.(i.e. not a hack job)

    Not going to mount a speaker in the stick, all audio will have to be played on external speakers.

    Anyone done this before?? Any input?? What would the value of something like this be??
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,834
    Man, I was keeping that Seimitsu Inside away from everyone else.
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  • black shoemakerblack shoemaker black hatmaker Joined: Posts: 995
    Man, I was keeping that Seimitsu Inside away from everyone else.


    OWN/// man im high
    jerb
  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    You'd think buying a TV should be pretty easy; lay out your requirements, see what fits. Instead, my biggest concern (input latency) is one property that none of the manufacturers will talk about or advertise, testing yourself is only slightly difficult, but requires a store have one of the TVs in driving distance (doesn't happen) AND even then, you could end up with a TV with a different core display and properties than the one you tested.
    And the only way to be absolutely sure requires paying 5-10x as much as the matching television, just for the privilege of getting something WITHOUT the bells and whistles of the picture processing units.

    I feel the need to hug my old reliable 36" CRT, but since it seems you can't buy anything anymore with S-Video outputs, I sure as hell can't watch a DVD on it.
  • wepeelwepeel Blanka is my only hope Joined: Posts: 1,180
    After some testing, I was able to improve my wireless connection...by moving my phone away from my computer. I guess they both use the 2.4Ghz band.
    I have a wireless-g pci card in my 2001 dinosaur, and ever since I moved into this new room, my wireless has been weak. It gets better when I open the door haha but that's not always the best thing to do.
    do you believe I would take such a thing with me, and give it to a police man

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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,386 mod
    After some testing, I was able to improve my wireless connection...by moving my phone away from my computer. I guess they both use the 2.4Ghz band.
    I have a wireless-g pci card in my 2001 dinosaur, and ever since I moved into this new room, my wireless has been weak. It gets better when I open the door haha but that's not always the best thing to do.
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  • PuFFPuFF Dan Marino Joined: Posts: 2,119
    Finally dual modding my stick. Scared as hell but Hopefully ill be fine.

    Also, Seimitsu Stick, Sanwa buttons.

    No combination is better imo.
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  • KILABEEKILABEE scrub magnet Joined: Posts: 153
    i studied like a mad man and now losing sleep over something...

    its how to dual mod a stick with an MC cthulhu and a xbox360...
    FML and i have a test for school which i should have studied for...now im gonna wing it.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,386 mod
    Just ordered a plexi for the TE as well. Should arrive next week along with the parts for the HRAP (plexi, Seimitsu buttons and bubble top) Now to crank out some art for it.
  • black shoemakerblack shoemaker black hatmaker Joined: Posts: 995
    090220_seimitusanwa03.jpg

    That is fucking heaven^ 100 yen for a pushbutton is a steal. BTW, does anybody know where this is at, it looks like it's in a convention
    jerb
  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,834
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  • Big PocketsBig Pockets likes coffee Joined: Posts: 350
    You should check out these galleries from Per at Akihabarashop.jp
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  • LunaSlaveLunaSlave insert title here Joined: Posts: 150
    when I saw that picture with all the buttons, I thought to myself "Why can't my neighborhood dollar store be that cool?"
  • LuppyLuptoniumLuppyLuptonium Entertainer Supreme. Joined: Posts: 240
    I'm starting planing phases on the classiest stick ever made. Now I just need to figure out where I could actually do the woodwork on it.... and figure out a way to get a white shaft cover for a JLF.
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  • Sugar_KaneSugar_Kane Joined: Posts: 497
    I'm starting planing phases on the classiest stick ever made. Now I just need to figure out where I could actually do the woodwork on it.... and figure out a way to get a white shaft cover for a JLF.

    If it helps, I bought a Seimitsu shaft cover and all I needed to do was shave a little plastic from the inside bottom and it fitted like a glove on my JLF.
  • Ikagi-chanIkagi-chan Loves his HRAP2SA! <3 Joined: Posts: 1,980
    I got a bunch of parts laying around, and I am considering building a supergun out a HRAP. I recently built a supergun, and put it into the smallest box I could fit the power supply in. After finishing It though "Hey a HRAP is much bigger than this box, I should just integrate the supergun right into the stick." I'm sure this is no huge revelation for anyone, but it just came to me.

    I plan to mount the power supply and video encoder inside one HRAP. The Jamma harness will exit the stick where the console cord normally is. On that same side will be a computer style AC pass though for the power supply, as well as the video and audio outputs. On the right side of the stick will be a 15 pin D-Sub that will connect the stick to another HRAP (in the future) for two player support. I am also thinking about breaking the 2nd player control wires out of the Jamma before it goes into the stick to avoid the 15 pin.

    Potential problems I see:

    Space of course, its going to be tight:D

    Because of the double wall design of the HRAP, it is going to take a bit of cutting to get all the connectors mounted in the outside shell of the stick. Not really a big issue.

    Cooling the power supply, I will have to mount a fan in the stick and a vent. Might be a pain to make look right.(i.e. not a hack job)

    Not going to mount a speaker in the stick, all audio will have to be played on external speakers.

    Anyone done this before?? Any input?? What would the value of something like this be??

    DevilsFang, that would be absolutely freaking awesome if you managed to get that working. That sounds like the sort of project Gummowned would take on! :lol:

    I'm certain that would be worth a LOT though. I mean, seriously, it's an arcade machine in your lap basically, just plug in the arcade board, TV, power supply, and you're good to go right? I wouldn't have much use for it myself, but dedicated Supergunners would be able to take a lot from your project if you get it done. :tup:


    http://vat-patimon.com/archives/images/200902/aou/090220_seimitusanwa03.jpg

    That is fucking heaven^ 100 yen for a pushbutton is a steal. BTW, does anybody know where this is at, it looks like it's in a convention

    You're damn right that's heaven! God, I really wish I could go to an arcade operator's convention. It'd be the best convention I'd ever attend! :lovin:



    In any case, watching the Trading Outlet these days is crazy! It looks like the optical joystick has gotten revived momentum in this year of 2010. I'm seeing more ASCII sticks being sold this past month than I've ever seen being sold all of last year. I don't even want to tread on the prices people are willing to pay to get a Sanwa FLASH 1. I'm not one to talk since I myself paid $207.00 for mine, but everyone must be crazy paying these prices for an optical joystick, out of print and rarity be damned. :looney:
  • undamnedundamned Wake up! Time to die! Joined: Posts: 1,687
    Just started working on fitting a Dreamcast controller inside a VMU. I know it sounds impossible/ridiculous/preposterous, but I'm making really good progress. It'll end up like one of those project boxes that people make for universal joysticks. And yes, the VMU will still be fully functional (well, minus the annoying "BEEP" every time you turn the system on without fresh CR2032 batteries inside :annoy:).
    -ud
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