How to fix Mortal Kombat

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  • Kalyx triaDKalyx triaD Serious Business Joined: Posts: 2,919
    Having a block button doesn't bother me. And Free Fall is actually cool, makes the fights epic in a way.
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 56,776 mod
    The best way to fix Mortal Kombat is to play MK2 or UMK3 instead.

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  • hacksparrowhacksparrow Banned Joined: Posts: 331
    i want to change the control panel on a mortal kombat 2 cab to seimitsu parts is there a lot of milling involved? shouldnt this be in tech talk?
  • Bob SagatBob Sagat Akuma Thurman Joined: Posts: 1,547
    i want to change the control panel on a mortal kombat 2 cab to seimitsu parts is there a lot of milling involved? shouldnt this be in tech talk?

    That's what a lot of people were about to ask you.
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  • Black ShroudBlack Shroud Spirits Society Joined: Posts: 1,167
    SF doesn't have MK characters.
    Samurai Shodown series would be a better pick, having violence and even bigger character/special move variety, and cast, than MK. Also, its mythology is just as big as MK's.
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  • SimpleKissSimpleKiss Getting Hit in the Mouth Joined: Posts: 1,005
    I hear UMK3 is the shit. If that game is fucking awesome why hasn't it gotten more respect around here? Honestly curious. Would be nice to see more legit MK stuff around. And I think a lot of people want MK to be legit, because they have some really awesome characters.

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  • Pablo_the_MexPablo_the_Mex Blond Kanye Status Joined: Posts: 8,225
    It wasn't until I saw that one guys youtube page from Venezuela that I FINALLY saw what real high level UMK3 looks like. Good stuff. Now MKvsDC, that was horrible.

  • Kim Sue-ilKim Sue-il Call me JoJo! Joined: Posts: 1,799
    If they made it just like UMK3 or MK2

    /thread

    Best solution! Close thread.
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  • ShotgunSteveShotgunSteve Goes by Henners Joined: Posts: 575
    I think a lot of people here want a viable competitive MK game because it sells. MK with 2 and 3 became more popular than SF, despite SF being a better game. The style was more approachble to the masses, I remember hearing far more hype for MK4 than SF3.

    Also I think boon thinks he invented the fireball.

    "since the beginning, one of the things that's separated us from other fighting games is the crazy moves we've put in it, like fireballs and all the magic moves, so to speak."
  • EkshEksh whatistheswitcherlov Joined: Posts: 308
    It wasn't until I saw that one guys youtube page from Venezuela that I FINALLY saw what real high level UMK3 looks like. Good stuff. Now MKvsDC, that was horrible.

    Got a link?

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  • Black ShroudBlack Shroud Spirits Society Joined: Posts: 1,167
    Also I think boon thinks he invented the fireball.

    "since the beginning, one of the things that's separated us from other fighting games is the crazy moves we've put in it, like fireballs and all the magic moves, so to speak."

    And in MKA we got move/style swapping all over the place, with 16 characters sharing same grab, and 1/3 of cast sharing teleport behind back. You can choose character with your eyes closed, and theres big chance you will have "fireball, forward charge, teleport behind back" movelist.
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  • Kalyx triaDKalyx triaD Serious Business Joined: Posts: 2,919
    Kalyx, any way that you could repost that MK blog to this site's blog function?

    Posted it, it's up in the blog section. Enjoy.
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  • pheraipherai LIVE FOREVER Joined: Posts: 11,885 mod
    Strawman, that wasn't my stance.

    You called him a fanboy of some sub-type you created right here and now, and then made a generalization about fighting game fans not wanting MK to be better (wrong). Nobody argued that MK wasn't crappy (case in point this thread) so don't try to use that in defense.

    I haven't heard any huge outcry of competitive fighting game players for MK for be a competitive fighting game.

    And how does the concept of a fanboy who constantly forgets the numerous faults of the previous iteration of a series not make sense to you?
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  • ShotgunSteveShotgunSteve Goes by Henners Joined: Posts: 575
    I haven't heard any huge outcry of competitive fighting game players for MK for be a competitive fighting game.

    And how does the concept of a fanboy who constantly forgets the numerous faults of the previous iteration of a series not make sense to you?

    I don't forget the faults, I just enjoy them through the faults the style of the game appeals to me. I never have said MK was EVER a competitive title. I was just saying it could have become one if it changed.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    The only way to fix Mortal Kombat is to not play it.
  • NotGoodNotGood Joined: Posts: 287
    UMK3 and MK2 were pretty great......Mortal Kombat is pretty cool in its own way.

    They just need to fix some of the obvious shit in MKDC and that game would be pretty good too.
  • NecrotrophicNecrotrophic Isn't a communist. Joined: Posts: 5,910
    people who say umk3 is good obviously never played it online. that game is not only hugely unbalanced, it has many glitches. if you dont play as kabal h.smoke, stryker or lao youre screwed because once those infinites start its all over


    and LOL at people saying mk has a good story. its convoluted, contradictory and overall seems like a vince mcmahon rejection.
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  • NeoBloodNeoBlood kara bank account Joined: Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    OP pretty much described EVERY OTHER fighting game in his first post. Although I agree that I'll play any other fighter before MK.
  • hacksparrowhacksparrow Banned Joined: Posts: 331
    like have 2 directional inputs? thats got to be the most idiotic thing ever for any thing, why didnt they do both directionals on one side? its a stupid system in the first place but may have been tolerable if it where on R3/RS like an fps but no u have to switch. i was blown away by this pure garbage input idea

    edit; quote dint go thru for mvd aka mitral valve disease, wot kind of name is that? dc universe? bah
  • nano5896nano5896 BlightedAgent Joined: Posts: 282
    people who say umk3 is good obviously never played it online. that game is not only hugely unbalanced, it has many glitches. if you dont play as kabal h.smoke, stryker or lao youre screwed because once those infinites start its all over


    and LOL at people saying mk has a good story. its convoluted, contradictory and overall seems like a vince mcmahon rejection.

    Isn't Kung Loa's infinite the easiest infinite to do?
  • MrMoonMrMoon Registered User Joined: Posts: 365
    This kind of thread was hated on the old SRK, but now it's kinda accepted...so...

    I've done a lot of thinking, I like the style of Mortal Kombat. And the games are fun to dick around with. I wish they would be competitive, but unfortunately they just aren't designed that way. Mortal Kombat 2 had a combo system that through flaws in programming allowed air juggles and combos, MK3 tried to make it competitive by forcing a dial-a-combo system that made it more approachable but hindered real game play.

    1) 2D
    3) Mortal Kombat 2 gameplay style
    3) add Hit Stun
    4) More variation with "normal" moves
    5) 3 games and all had a very abusable Back+LK sweep...let's change that
    6) back to block
    7) add super meter
    8) change run to FF instead of a button
    9) maybe a parry or just defend defense move
    10) less abusive LP spam.


    Wow, Shutup.

    1. I agree with 2d
    2. No MK2 was one of the worst umk3 was far superior
    3. Hit stun? Does this look like fucking MVC or a Capcom Game?
    4. Variations? Of what?
    5. Uhhh Okay? I never noticed it
    6. Back to block? This isnt super turbo, It would defeat the purpose of MERCY or some fatalities like scorpions block back back forward p, I think thats for trilogy, I don't remember his UMK3 one but i have the book around here and the MK2 FT/Strats Book
    7. This isnt super turbo
    8. This isn't 3rd Strike
    9. This isn't 3rd Strike or Garou stop trying to make it the same game just combined
    10. You just sadi that for # 5, Repeating Yourself?

    If you're gonna make a thread like this, Give some real reasons why its bad, And what should REALLY be changed instead of stupid shit. Sorry if my post seems rude just being honest.
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  • ShotgunSteveShotgunSteve Goes by Henners Joined: Posts: 575
    Mr Moon, c.LP = b+LK ?
  • clue2025clue2025 Brazilian Jiu-jitsu player Joined: Posts: 2,805
    people who say umk3 is good obviously never played it online. that game is not only hugely unbalanced, it has many glitches. if you dont play as kabal h.smoke, stryker or lao youre screwed because once those infinites start its all over


    and LOL at people saying mk has a good story. its convoluted, contradictory and overall seems like a vince mcmahon rejection.

    Has the only place you've ever played it been online?

    Yeah it's unbalanced but it's still tons of fun, like MARVEL fun. And Stryker isn't even that good outside of his loop. At Seasons Beatings I watched Lex (I think it was him) DESTROY people with Nightwolf when he wasn't using Kung Lao. And Nightwolf is top 10, but he's not top 5.

    Game is HYPE. Straight up.

    Where's Tim Static at?!
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  • NecrotrophicNecrotrophic Isn't a communist. Joined: Posts: 5,910
    Has the only place you've ever played it been online?

    Yeah it's unbalanced but it's still tons of fun, like MARVEL fun. And Stryker isn't even that good outside of his loop. At Seasons Beatings I watched Lex (I think it was him) DESTROY people with Nightwolf when he wasn't using Kung Lao. And Nightwolf is top 10, but he's not top 5.

    Game is HYPE. Straight up.

    Where's Tim Static at?!
    u can def still enjoy it, but i cant enjoy it, or any mk game these days simply because its so messed up.
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  • digimonemporerdigimonemporer Joined: Posts: 2,612
    I (still) like MKA. Especially the Wii version with the infinites removed and added game mechanics (and I don't mean using the nunchuku lol).

    But if they made a new 2d MK, i'd definitely would play it. :tup:
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    Where the hell is Tim Static?
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    Where the hell is Tim Static?

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  • Hanzo_HasashiHanzo_Hasashi Primal Rage rules Joined: Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    It wasn't until I saw that one guys youtube page from Venezuela that I FINALLY saw what real high level UMK3 looks like. Good stuff. Now MKvsDC, that was horrible.

    Wow thx for the mention and props Pablo! And for the link for Kesh:

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  • Kalyx triaDKalyx triaD Serious Business Joined: Posts: 2,919
    I haven't heard any huge outcry of competitive fighting game players for MK for be a competitive fighting game.

    Again not my stance. I see it's not strawman'ing so much as a comprehension issue. Where the Hell did you get "huge outcry" from? Stop arguing in bad faith. Just stop.
    And how does the concept of a fanboy who constantly forgets the numerous faults of the previous iteration of a series not make sense to you?

    Hmm...
    I don't forget the faults, I just enjoy them through the faults the style of the game appeals to me. I never have said MK was EVER a competitive title. I was just saying it could have become one if it changed.

    Yeah, that pretty much covers it.
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  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    Where the hell is Tim Static?

    I am right here. :coffee:

    I think the point of what the OP was trying to say is appreciated, but he lost me at point #2. No, no new MK should ever be just like MKII, unless its gore wise, and now it just doesnt matter anymore.

    BRB with more
  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    This kind of thread was hated on the old SRK, but now it's kinda accepted...so...

    I've done a lot of thinking, I like the style of Mortal Kombat. And the games are fun to dick around with. I wish they would be competitive, but unfortunately they just aren't designed that way. Mortal Kombat 2 had a combo system that through flaws in programming allowed air juggles and combos, MK3 tried to make it competitive by forcing a dial-a-combo system that made it more approachable but hindered real game play.

    1) 2D
    3) Mortal Kombat 2 gameplay style
    3) add Hit Stun
    4) More variation with "normal" moves
    5) 3 games and all had a very abusable Back+LK sweep...let's change that
    6) back to block
    7) add super meter
    8) change run to FF instead of a button
    9) maybe a parry or just defend defense move
    10) less abusive LP spam.

    WOW, The only one worth repeating was #1.

    The MK community does NOT approve this post.

    ugh.

    MK isnt SF, never will. (insert funny joke thats NEVER been said here, har har har)

    What makes MK, MK is block and run buttons. Kara jabs. no super meters. rushdown, pop-ups and sweeps. (your a tool if you get sweep raped, sorry.)

    OP, next time consult someone who knows that they are talking about before you make an ass even more of MK. thanks.
  • ShotgunSteveShotgunSteve Goes by Henners Joined: Posts: 575
    WOW, The only one worth repeating was #1.

    The MK community does NOT approve this post.

    ugh.

    MK isnt SF, never will. (insert funny joke thats NEVER been said here, har har har)

    What makes MK, MK is block and run buttons. Kara jabs. no super meters. rushdown, pop-ups and sweeps. (your a tool if you get sweep raped, sorry.)

    OP, next time consult someone who knows that they are talking about before you make an ass even more of MK. thanks.

    did i say I represent the community? no. excuse me for having an opinion that differs.

    I should have to CONSULT someone to maek sure my opinion matches in the DISCUSSION section?

    Since it seems you're the pinnacle of the MK community Tim Static, what in your opinion could help MK? Or do you like it just the way it is.
  • D-ProtoD-Proto Execution God Joined: Posts: 824
    did i say I represent the community? no. excuse me for having an opinion that differs.

    I should have to CONSULT someone to maek sure my opinion matches in the DISCUSSION section?

    Since it seems you're the pinnacle of the MK community Tim Static, what in your opinion could help MK? Or do you like it just the way it is.

    just give up man
    seriously
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    did i say I represent the community? no. excuse me for having an opinion that differs.

    I should have to CONSULT someone to maek sure my opinion matches in the DISCUSSION section?

    Since it seems you're the pinnacle of the MK community Tim Static, what in your opinion could help MK? Or do you like it just the way it is.

    Well, since you want to turn MK into SF then just stick with SF bro. It saddens me to say that, but thats what your trying to do.

    While MKII was the most popular MK game ever, the gameplay in MKII is just SO slow and dated.

    The first couple things Ed Boon and his staff must do to make MK viable again is do it in 2d again (w/ 3d sprites and to revisit the way they made MK3/UMK3. It was the ONLY time in the whole series they did a 2nd game based on the same style gameplay. (even tho technically UMK3 is just Mk3 Revision 3.2)

    UMK3 IS the holy grail of all MK games, period. The gameplay, the depth & the style has never again been rivaled in the series, period. Thats a fact and anything else is just personal opinions.
  • oBryantoBryant HATE...is it in you? Joined: Posts: 320
    This kind of thread was hated on the old SRK, but now it's kinda accepted...so...

    I've done a lot of thinking, I like the style of Mortal Kombat. And the games are fun to dick around with. I wish they would be competitive, but unfortunately they just aren't designed that way. Mortal Kombat 2 had a combo system that through flaws in programming allowed air juggles and combos, MK3 tried to make it competitive by forcing a dial-a-combo system that made it more approachable but hindered real game play.

    1) 2D
    3) Mortal Kombat 2 gameplay style
    3) add Hit Stun
    4) More variation with "normal" moves
    5) 3 games and all had a very abusable Back+LK sweep...let's change that
    6) back to block
    7) add super meter
    8) change run to FF instead of a button
    9) maybe a parry or just defend defense move
    10) less abusive LP spam.

    You are a dip shit..
    I hate you.
  • YinYin fun fun fun Joined: Posts: 3,396
    Yeah, UMK3-style in 2.5d (or high res photo-sprites lol) would be awesome and imo that would be getting MK back on the right path.
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  • ShotgunSteveShotgunSteve Goes by Henners Joined: Posts: 575
    Well, since you want to turn MK into SF then just stick with SF bro. It saddens me to say that, but thats what your trying to do.

    While MKII was the most popular MK game ever, the gameplay in MKII is just SO slow and dated.

    The first couple things Ed Boon and his staff must do to make MK viable again is do it in 2d again (w/ 3d sprites and to revisit the way they made MK3/UMK3. It was the ONLY time in the whole series they did a 2nd game based on the same style gameplay. (even tho technically UMK3 is just Mk3 Revision 3.2)

    UMK3 IS the holy grail of all MK games, period. The gameplay, the depth & the style has never again been rivaled in the series, period. Thats a fact and anything else is just personal opinions.

    I wasn't trying to do anything, the MKProjects that throw MK characters into mugen are trying to make MK into SF.

    I was just throwing ideas on if MK evolved (similar to how SF evolved and added more technical aspects, super meters, parry) if it could have maintained into the public eye (or at least the general fighting game community's eye).

    Does the MK community like dial-combos? with MK2 I was thinking more of the combos that aren't preset.
  • OJuggernautOOJuggernautO Tyler "Juggs" Smith Joined: Posts: 512
    To "save" MK, they need to make the new game like UMK3. Just new gen style. That does not mean 3D, MK going 3D is one of the main reasons it's regarded as terrible. Stick to UMK3 game play, and 2D.
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