*The "padhacking" thread*

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  • DA_KIDDA_KID Joined: Posts: 6
    What's the easiest way to get 4 grounds out of a JLF?
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    DA_KID wrote: »
    What's the easiest way to get 4 grounds out of a JLF?
    Replace the TP-MA PCB in your JLF with 4 separate micro switches, you will have to rewire the joystick harness or get a joystick wire harness adapter.
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  • DA_KIDDA_KID Joined: Posts: 6
    could I connect the ground wire from the harness to 4 different wires?
  • DA_KIDDA_KID Joined: Posts: 6
    or desoldier the switches from the board?
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    DA_KID wrote: »
    could I connect the ground wire from the harness to 4 different wires?
    DA_KID wrote: »
    or desoldier the switches from the board?

    2nd one is more of a option. The issue with the PCB is all the switches COM (Common) or ground as we call it are interconnected which does not lead well to boards that are not common ground.
    But desoldering all the switches is a great deal of work. You are better off just cutting the traces on the PCB.

    Still if you want the easiest option, just buy individual micro switches and a 5 pin joystick harness to .187 tabs adapter
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  • Kid KaosKid Kaos Embrace Shadaloo Joined: Posts: 1,072
    has anyone pad hacked this yet? diagram? pics? i'll be ordering soon just want to see what i'll be dealing with.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151494321632?lpid=82
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  • DA_KIDDA_KID Joined: Posts: 6
    I'm just going to soldier wire straight onto the posts on the PCB.
  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,584
    DA_KID wrote: »
    I'm just going to soldier wire straight onto the posts on the PCB.
    That'll work, but you'll have to make sure to sever the Ground trace on the JLF PCB so that it is no longer a common-ground PCB.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    Yes, make sure you cut those traces very well. You do not want to leave a circuit path when you are done.
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  • Lemony VengeanceLemony Vengeance JAMMA pad hacker Extraordinaire Joined: Posts: 463
    Kid Kaos wrote: »
    has anyone pad hacked this yet? diagram? pics? i'll be ordering soon just want to see what i'll be dealing with.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151494321632?lpid=82

    The thread's here:

    http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/190681/hori-fighting-commander-4-for-ps3-and-ps4#latest

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  • ThomasPaineThomasPaine Joined: Posts: 2
    Might sound a bit like a ridiculous question, and this thread's been inactive a while, but do I need to use a butane soldering iron? I have an electric one, but I'd rather not fry the pad right at the start.
  • NENDONENDO I will meditate and then destroy you. Joined: Posts: 3,356
    Might sound a bit like a ridiculous question, and this thread's been inactive a while, but do I need to use a butane soldering iron? I have an electric one, but I'd rather not fry the pad right at the start.

    No. Any soldering iron should work provided it has a decent tip and gets hot.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    Might sound a bit like a ridiculous question, and this thread's been inactive a while, but do I need to use a butane soldering iron? I have an electric one, but I'd rather not fry the pad right at the start.
    What, where you get using a butane soldering iron from?

    Use a electric soldering Iron that produce heat 99.99 of soldering irons out there. (avoid cold weld soldering guns as it uses electrical current not heat to solder and can fry boards.).
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  • ThomasPaineThomasPaine Joined: Posts: 2
    I get that from my complete lack of knowledge. Thanks for your answer, I'll return if something else comes up
  • heczhecz AboveDaInfluence24/7 Joined: Posts: 1,270
    Is there a way to use the switch on the qanba q4 or te2 to use it for switching a pad hack instead of the ps3?
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  • nanoflowernanoflower Joined: Posts: 1
    edited June 2015
    Has anyone managed to wire up the 3-way position switch on an xbox MadCatz Fight/Brawl pad
    I'm specifically looking to remove and replace the incredibly tiny switch with a bigger one. The bigger switch would then be fitted somewhere reachable on the outside of a case/cabinet.
    The switch on the PCB has 6 solder points but I'm not sure if all should be used or ...?
    MadCatz%252520-%2525203pos.jpg

    /nano

    I figured it out in case anyone's interested:
    2 is Ground
    3waypos-small-pin-id.jpg
    Get your self a 2P3T swith like this one and you are good to go
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-hot-5pcs-SS23E04-G5-3-Position-2P3T-slide-power-switch-/360895699256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54070f5938&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    nanoflower wrote: »
    Has anyone managed to wire up the 3-way position switch on an xbox MadCatz Fight/Brawl pad
    I'm specifically looking to remove and replace the incredibly tiny switch with a bigger one. The bigger switch would then be fitted somewhere reachable on the outside of a case/cabinet.
    The switch on the PCB has 6 solder points but I'm not sure if all should be used or ...?
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jgOZyMJ2SF4/VVuLYl6GpgI/AAAAAAAAAWg/8x9D_ZzjsH0/s600/MadCatz%2520-%25203pos.jpg
    I assume you are speaking of the LS - DP - RS switch? Just set it to DP and forget it.
    No console fighter (worth buying) does not use DP only LS. There no Fighting games that use RS.
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  • oldskoolgamingoldskoolgaming STMemory Joined: Posts: 105
    edited June 2015
    Hi, so i finally got to own my first Madcatz TE 1 Stick PS3 and I intend to swap out the PCB with a SFXT Fighpad PS3 for Windows compatibility. I can safely follow along this guide which is for the swapping in the Paewang? (Thanks to Mr Myers)

    Sorry for double posting please remove this post =)
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  • ChaoticMonkChaoticMonk Shut The Front Door Joined: Posts: 999
    Hey ya'll.
    So, I'm trying to add a 360 Afterglow pcb to a PS3 Hori Fighting Edge as a dual mod. I got everything connected up but haven't set up power to the touchpanel/led for Start/Select yet (not confident enough yet with that part).
    In the mean time, I decided to test out what I've already done. Everything worked fine until I press the buttons wired up to the triggers (LT/RT). When I do that (connected to PC), the afterglow pcb disconnects and reconnects (with a flash of lights).
    I rechecked my wiring and I don't see anything unusual. Anyone got any tips please?

    360AfterglowTop.jpg

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  • EJMEJM Joined: Posts: 441
    Hey ya'll.
    So, I'm trying to add a 360 Afterglow pcb to a PS3 Hori Fighting Edge as a dual mod. I got everything connected up but haven't set up power to the touchpanel/led for Start/Select yet (not confident enough yet with that part).
    In the mean time, I decided to test out what I've already done. Everything worked fine until I press the buttons wired up to the triggers (LT/RT). When I do that (connected to PC), the afterglow pcb disconnects and reconnects (with a flash of lights).
    I rechecked my wiring and I don't see anything unusual. Anyone got any tips please?



    I've never padhacked that pad but if I were in your shoes, I would get rid of the LT & RT pots and do Toodles' trigger mod. The mod seems to fix almost all trigger problems I've encountered modding. I even built a little tester board of it that I use whenever I run across a new or strange pad.

    My tester board for triggers.
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  • ChaoticMonkChaoticMonk Shut The Front Door Joined: Posts: 999
    EJM wrote: »
    My tester board for triggers.
    Nice! I'll have to keep this handy. Opens up the number of pcbs I can make use of :)

    I replaced the pots on the afterglow pcb with 10kohm resistors and everything seems to be working.
    Just gotta wrap my head around powering the hori's touchpanel/leds and I'm done :)
  • MicronMicron Joined: Posts: 35
    The 360 controller I did was semi-common ground. I ended up finding 3 or 4 buttons to one ground. I just wired both current and ground for each button to the switch. Worked great, I'm the only person I know who had both ps3 and 360 wireless custom fight sticks. I disagree, I thought the 360 was SIGNIFICANTLY easier to solder than the ps3. Be creative when you make the battery pack. I just taped two batteries together and made bridge wires. Good luck.
    gcb wrote: »
    this thread is a monster! too much info... too much great info.

    i'm doing my xbox 360 wireless to use with MAME (and the microsoft controller receiver for PC)

    from the pic on the first page i assumed it was all common ground. and i also tested that i had continuity on all grounds... but now, the DPAD only RIGHT works using the common ground. and right triggers UP...

    should I have used the dpad individual grounds? or a different common ground like for the triggers?

    i still can't believe my eyes because the multimeter confirm that i have continuity from each and every dpad ground to the trigger button (easiest common groud to solder) that i'm using...

  • ElectroManiacElectroManiac Joined: Posts: 484
    edited July 2015
    Hello first post here

    II'm complete noob on all this fight sticks shenigans :P and padhacking for that matter.

    I want to get a fight stick (my first) and I kind want to build myself one using a Tek case. My knowledge on electronics is light though. I don't have experience on soldering but I have a friend who is really good at it.

    I have 4 360 wireless controllers and I can butchered one to try doing a padhack. How hard it is? and would I be able to use it with my PC wireless receiver?

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  • BolSadguyBolSadguy Toronto Stick Modder Joined: Posts: 1,613
    Is anyone here familiar with raw DualShock 3 padhacking? Are the shoulder buttons active low or active high? And how would I invert it so I can direct solder (if I need to invert)
  • MrHadoukenMrHadouken Joined: Posts: 6
    Okay. Just bought the silver PS2 controller model "A" from my local used game store. I opened it, and it was this PCB --

    http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram2.jpg

    Big mistake!

    However, two-to-three weeks ago, I bought the black PS2 controller model "M" from my local flea market...
  • heczhecz AboveDaInfluence24/7 Joined: Posts: 1,270
    Anybody can help making a dual mod with xbone and ds4? I saw gummos pics but no tutorial.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    hecz wrote: »
    Anybody can help making a dual mod with xbone and ds4? I saw gummos pics but no tutorial.

    I would not recommend the DS4 any more, there are easier pad hacks, mods and even standalone boards.
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  • heczhecz AboveDaInfluence24/7 Joined: Posts: 1,270
    edited March 2016
    I had them padhacked already. Im asking for the tutorial how to dual mod them
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  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    If you got that far (and it works) you already got the hard parts out of the way.
    Check out Dual Modding 101 for the basics.
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  • KoffeeKoffee Joined: Posts: 3
    edited March 2016
    Does anyone have a wiring guide for the PDP Wired Fight Pads for wii? I've been meaning to padhack one to work as a gamecube controller. (the one adapter you can buy is apparently really bad). I also need a guide to safe cuts for a GameCube controller.
  • DarksakulDarksakul I find your lack of Faith Disturbing. Joined: Posts: 24,715
    Koffee wrote: »
    Does anyone have a wiring guide for the PDP Wired Fight Pads for wii? I've been meaning to padhack one to work as a gamecube controller. (the one adapter you can buy is apparently really bad). I also need a guide to safe cuts for a GameCube controller.

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  • MicronMicron Joined: Posts: 35
    Koffee wrote: »
    Does anyone have a wiring guide for the PDP Wired Fight Pads for wii? I've been meaning to padhack one to work as a gamecube controller. (the one adapter you can buy is apparently really bad). I also need a guide to safe cuts for a GameCube controller.

    Let's see some pics, you'll probably be able to do a non common ground hack as a worst case.
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