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  • SaitsuSaitsu When a Kid, Becomes a Legend Joined: Posts: 35,254
    It won't be in DD Season 3 he defends him, Matt is gonna have to bust his ass out of jail in the first Defenders episode.
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  • white shadowwhite shadow WHAT'S MY NAME NYUKAH?!!! Joined: Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG


    Grade : 8.5/10

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    DD 9/10
    Jessica: 7/1



    I finally finished Luke Cage a day ago and it's definitely up there on the list of great Marvel series. Not to parrot @Dangerous J but I pretty much share all his sentiments.

    First and most importantly, THE MUSIC! The music was a fantastic centerpiece to the entire story, whether it was the club performances or the blaxploitation era inspired outro, everytime music was introduced it heightened the whole black experience and the overall vibe.

    Misty Knight's rack is a thing of beauty, it's a shame her character is way too stiff and surly for any sane man to realistically deal with on a permanent basis.
    I was surprised she managed to keep her arm considering what happened to her in the comics with the Antarctic vibranium and such.

    The side characters didn't feel like paltry centerpieces for Luke to save or rebuff, they all seemed to have their own philosophy that you could relate or at least understand (the hustlin' kid selling bootlegs and superhero footage for instance).

    As for the villains, Cottonmouth was brilliant, Mariah and Shades were respectably conniving and manipulating, and Diamondback was a pure psychopath full of crazy, plus his one-liners and bible verses added some humorous depth to him. All of them had varying degrees of breaking points and underlying motivations. The series' production definitely had a lot of black names on board for the humor and delivery to be realistic.
    I think what most impressed me about their Cottonmouth's and Mariah's backstory was how deep they made it, namely, how the Queenpin's traitorous husband molested Mariah, but was simultaneously trying to spare Cottonmouth a life of crime. They could've easily went the cliched route and made him into an irredeemable monster with no good qualities whatsoever, but his approach with each cousin scarred them in different ways. I thought that was masterfully done considering how many non-comic book readers see the genre as simple action and drama.

    The pacing of the story was great as well, unlike Jessica Jones, which frustratingly drew things out until I stopped caring near the end; this series kept it engaging and fresh. By making the side characters worthwhile and the flashbacks engaging and relevant, I was never questioning where everything was headed.


    My only very, very minor gripes, was...

    that the action/ choreography was predictable unlike say the martial arts action in Daredevil, due to Luke Cage being pretty much a god amongst men (which I know couldn't be helped). Diamondback was mostly a psychological and legal threat, but other than those very limited alien metal bullets nothing made me worry. Luke was pretty much slapping niggas around 90% of the time. I was also really hoping they'd retcon Shades into another powered human who survived the testing, but alas...


    I have a feeling some the tech we saw in Luke Cage will spill over into AOS.
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  • toddler316toddler316 Drunk Shit Hustler Joined: Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG


    Grade : 8.5/10

    Other Marvel Netflix shows

    DD 9/10
    Jessica: 7/1



    I finally finished Luke Cage a day ago and it's definitely up there on the list of great Marvel series. Not to parrot @Dangerous J but I pretty much share all his sentiments.

    First and most importantly, THE MUSIC! The music was a fantastic centerpiece to the entire story, whether it was the club performances or the blaxploitation era inspired outro, everytime music was introduced it heightened the whole black experience and the overall vibe.

    Misty Knight's rack is a thing of beauty, it's a shame her character is way too stiff and surly for any sane man to realistically deal with on a permanent basis.
    I was surprised she managed to keep her arm considering what happened to her in the comics with the Antarctic vibranium and such.

    The side characters didn't feel like paltry centerpieces for Luke to save or rebuff, they all seemed to have their own philosophy that you could relate or at least understand (the hustlin' kid selling bootlegs and superhero footage for instance).

    As for the villains, Cottonmouth was brilliant, Mariah and Shades were respectably conniving and manipulating, and Diamondback was a pure psychopath full of crazy, plus his one-liners and bible verses added some humorous depth to him. All of them had varying degrees of breaking points and underlying motivations. The series' production definitely had a lot of black names on board for the humor and delivery to be realistic.
    I think what most impressed me about their Cottonmouth's and Mariah's backstory was how deep they made it, namely, how the Queenpin's traitorous husband molested Mariah, but was simultaneously trying to spare Cottonmouth a life of crime. They could've easily went the cliched route and made him into an irredeemable monster with no good qualities whatsoever, but his approach with each cousin scarred them in different ways. I thought that was masterfully done considering how many non-comic book readers see the genre as simple action and drama.

    The pacing of the story was great as well, unlike Jessica Jones, which frustratingly drew things out until I stopped caring near the end; this series kept it engaging and fresh. By making the side characters worthwhile and the flashbacks engaging and relevant, I was never questioning where everything was headed.


    My only very, very minor gripes, was...

    that the action/ choreography was predictable unlike say the martial arts action in Daredevil, due to Luke Cage being pretty much a god amongst men (which I know couldn't be helped). Diamondback was mostly a psychological and legal threat, but other than those very limited alien metal bullets nothing made me worry. Luke was pretty much slapping niggas around 90% of the time. I was also really hoping they'd retcon Shades into another powered human who survived the testing, but alas...


    I have a feeling some the tech we saw in Luke Cage will spill over into AOS.

    That wasn't mama's husband, it was her brother in law and uncle to Mariah and cottonmouth
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  • white shadowwhite shadow WHAT'S MY NAME NYUKAH?!!! Joined: Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    toddler316 wrote: »


    Grade : 8.5/10

    Other Marvel Netflix shows

    DD 9/10
    Jessica: 7/1



    I finally finished Luke Cage a day ago and it's definitely up there on the list of great Marvel series. Not to parrot @Dangerous J but I pretty much share all his sentiments.

    First and most importantly, THE MUSIC! The music was a fantastic centerpiece to the entire story, whether it was the club performances or the blaxploitation era inspired outro, everytime music was introduced it heightened the whole black experience and the overall vibe.

    Misty Knight's rack is a thing of beauty, it's a shame her character is way too stiff and surly for any sane man to realistically deal with on a permanent basis.
    I was surprised she managed to keep her arm considering what happened to her in the comics with the Antarctic vibranium and such.

    The side characters didn't feel like paltry centerpieces for Luke to save or rebuff, they all seemed to have their own philosophy that you could relate or at least understand (the hustlin' kid selling bootlegs and superhero footage for instance).

    As for the villains, Cottonmouth was brilliant, Mariah and Shades were respectably conniving and manipulating, and Diamondback was a pure psychopath full of crazy, plus his one-liners and bible verses added some humorous depth to him. All of them had varying degrees of breaking points and underlying motivations. The series' production definitely had a lot of black names on board for the humor and delivery to be realistic.
    I think what most impressed me about their Cottonmouth's and Mariah's backstory was how deep they made it, namely, how the Queenpin's traitorous husband molested Mariah, but was simultaneously trying to spare Cottonmouth a life of crime. They could've easily went the cliched route and made him into an irredeemable monster with no good qualities whatsoever, but his approach with each cousin scarred them in different ways. I thought that was masterfully done considering how many non-comic book readers see the genre as simple action and drama.

    The pacing of the story was great as well, unlike Jessica Jones, which frustratingly drew things out until I stopped caring near the end; this series kept it engaging and fresh. By making the side characters worthwhile and the flashbacks engaging and relevant, I was never questioning where everything was headed.


    My only very, very minor gripes, was...

    that the action/ choreography was predictable unlike say the martial arts action in Daredevil, due to Luke Cage being pretty much a god amongst men (which I know couldn't be helped). Diamondback was mostly a psychological and legal threat, but other than those very limited alien metal bullets nothing made me worry. Luke was pretty much slapping niggas around 90% of the time. I was also really hoping they'd retcon Shades into another powered human who survived the testing, but alas...


    I have a feeling some the tech we saw in Luke Cage will spill over into AOS.

    That wasn't mama's husband, it was her brother in law and uncle to Mariah and cottonmouth

    Ah I see, I guess I misunderstood that conversation. lol
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  • toddler316toddler316 Drunk Shit Hustler Joined: Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    toddler316 wrote: »


    Grade : 8.5/10

    Other Marvel Netflix shows

    DD 9/10
    Jessica: 7/1



    I finally finished Luke Cage a day ago and it's definitely up there on the list of great Marvel series. Not to parrot @Dangerous J but I pretty much share all his sentiments.

    First and most importantly, THE MUSIC! The music was a fantastic centerpiece to the entire story, whether it was the club performances or the blaxploitation era inspired outro, everytime music was introduced it heightened the whole black experience and the overall vibe.

    Misty Knight's rack is a thing of beauty, it's a shame her character is way too stiff and surly for any sane man to realistically deal with on a permanent basis.
    I was surprised she managed to keep her arm considering what happened to her in the comics with the Antarctic vibranium and such.

    The side characters didn't feel like paltry centerpieces for Luke to save or rebuff, they all seemed to have their own philosophy that you could relate or at least understand (the hustlin' kid selling bootlegs and superhero footage for instance).

    As for the villains, Cottonmouth was brilliant, Mariah and Shades were respectably conniving and manipulating, and Diamondback was a pure psychopath full of crazy, plus his one-liners and bible verses added some humorous depth to him. All of them had varying degrees of breaking points and underlying motivations. The series' production definitely had a lot of black names on board for the humor and delivery to be realistic.
    I think what most impressed me about their Cottonmouth's and Mariah's backstory was how deep they made it, namely, how the Queenpin's traitorous husband molested Mariah, but was simultaneously trying to spare Cottonmouth a life of crime. They could've easily went the cliched route and made him into an irredeemable monster with no good qualities whatsoever, but his approach with each cousin scarred them in different ways. I thought that was masterfully done considering how many non-comic book readers see the genre as simple action and drama.

    The pacing of the story was great as well, unlike Jessica Jones, which frustratingly drew things out until I stopped caring near the end; this series kept it engaging and fresh. By making the side characters worthwhile and the flashbacks engaging and relevant, I was never questioning where everything was headed.


    My only very, very minor gripes, was...

    that the action/ choreography was predictable unlike say the martial arts action in Daredevil, due to Luke Cage being pretty much a god amongst men (which I know couldn't be helped). Diamondback was mostly a psychological and legal threat, but other than those very limited alien metal bullets nothing made me worry. Luke was pretty much slapping niggas around 90% of the time. I was also really hoping they'd retcon Shades into another powered human who survived the testing, but alas...


    I have a feeling some the tech we saw in Luke Cage will spill over into AOS.

    That wasn't mama's husband, it was her brother in law and uncle to Mariah and cottonmouth

    Ah I see, I guess I misunderstood that conversation. lol

    Np, they mentioned it during their earlier conversations.

    Plus they didn't address cottonmouth's parentage.

    Wouldn't surprise me if the uncle was actually cottonmouth's father, making that scene even more poignant.
    Russell Crowe: This is Tianamen Square. Lots of good fightin' has gone on here throughout the years.These China men can grow to over five feet tall, and in a fight, are known to kick with their legs.

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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,794
    It was jarring knowing that Cottonmouth and Mariah were suppose to be the same age. There's a 20 year age gap between the actors.
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  • maxxmaxx DIO THE DESTROYER Joined: Posts: 36,701 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    reminds me about the fact pretty much everyone got written outta family matter besides the main 4 lol.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,388
    maxx wrote: »
    reminds me about the fact pretty much everyone got written outta family matter besides the main 4 lol.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Matters

    The casting was actually pretty stable. Judy Winslow got written out (she's THAT girl who went upstairs and was never seen again), but the other four and Urkel remained for the whole series. Richie got age-advanced, but was there from season 2 till the end. Myra was there for over half the series.

    ((Show got rerun to death over here.))
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    Wasted wrote: »
    maxx wrote: »
    reminds me about the fact pretty much everyone got written outta family matter besides the main 4 lol.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Matters

    The casting was actually pretty stable. Judy Winslow got written out (she's THAT girl who went upstairs and was never seen again), but the other four and Urkel remained for the whole series. Richie got age-advanced, but was there from season 2 till the end. Myra was there for over half the series.

    ((Show got rerun to death over here.))

    judy got written out, the sister got written out, grandma, the wife was borderline written out
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,388
    Judy *was* the sister, unless you mean Laura, who got with Urkel.

    Richie's mother was written out eventually, but in all, most of the Winslow family stayed on.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,794
    Didn't Harriette actress get replaced in the last season?
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 6,388
    Didn't Harriette actress get replaced in the last season?

    Yah. She wasn't the only one, but the character was still there.
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  • Darc RequiemDarc Requiem The Light Emitting Darkness Joined: Posts: 9,205
    Didn't Harriette actress get replaced in the last season?

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  • BiousBious Seasons Greetings Joined: Posts: 11,725
    Sorry, Darc, had to hit Disagree cause looking at that hurt my soul.
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    Just watched Captain America Winter Soldier this past weekend. I'm confused about one thing: Why was the ship attacked by pirates? Was it random, or was Hydra behind it? And if Hydra was behind it...why? The information on the ship was SHIELD's anyways.
    Why bring logic to a discussion?
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    I know Pierce said that to Captain America, but since he was the bad guy, I didn't know if that information was accurate or not. Didn't know Fury said it at any point.
    Why bring logic to a discussion?
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    Too bad, the character's poopoo.
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    heel turn niggas
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    fs, could have used the budget for Punisher lol.
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    their saying hip hops gonna play a big part again. i hope they put alot of care like luke cage. wu tang on full blast
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    jae hoon wrote: »
    They actually went over the Cottonmouth issue in an interview. Essentially Cottonmouth was just supposed to be an expendable baddie and wasn't supposed to be that Good and they didn't do a good enough job with Mariah and Shades.

    i wonder if they regret killing him after that actor stunted on everybody.
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    maxx wrote: »
    jae hoon wrote: »
    They actually went over the Cottonmouth issue in an interview. Essentially Cottonmouth was just supposed to be an expendable baddie and wasn't supposed to be that Good and they didn't do a good enough job with Mariah and Shades.

    i wonder if they regret killing him after that actor stunted on everybody.
    Probably, they admitted there was a fall off after he died.
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  • SaitsuSaitsu When a Kid, Becomes a Legend Joined: Posts: 35,254
    They should've realized how great he was and reconfigured the script to let him live out the season, but alas...
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  • S00perCamS00perCam Cold as ice Joined: Posts: 2,458
    Saitsu wrote: »
    They should've realized how great he was and reconfigured the script to let him live out the season, but alas...

    You could argue this but I would argue that his arc in the show was brilliant and ending in his death the way it did was necessary not only for the show but for the character.

    Mariah could not have been sold as a villain without killing him and while I liked Cottonmouth better they obviously needed to universe build yada yada, I think she'll really shine in S2. Her development into a villain was admittedly interesting watching her operate while embracing it will be even better.

    Diamondback I actually didn't care for at all very one dimensional.

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  • SaitsuSaitsu When a Kid, Becomes a Legend Joined: Posts: 35,254
    S00perCam wrote: »
    Saitsu wrote: »
    They should've realized how great he was and reconfigured the script to let him live out the season, but alas...

    You could argue this but I would argue that his arc in the show was brilliant and ending in his death the way it did was necessary not only for the show but for the character.

    Mariah could not have been sold as a villain without killing him and while I liked Cottonmouth better they obviously needed to universe build yada yada, I think she'll really shine in S2. Her development into a villain was admittedly interesting watching her operate while embracing it will be even better.

    Diamondback I actually didn't care for at all very one dimensional.

    Don't get me wrong, I do agree that he should've died by Mariah's hands. It just shouldn't have come midway through the season, especially since Mariah didn't really buy in until the end of the season anyway and things were more about Diamondback instead.
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  • jae hoonjae hoon Flames of Justice Joined: Posts: 13,102 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Mariah is still by far the weakest villian, it can be hard turning a joke character into a serious one for a villian.
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  • S00perCamS00perCam Cold as ice Joined: Posts: 2,458
    jae hoon wrote: »
    Mariah is still by far the weakest villian, it can be hard turning a joke character into a serious one for a villian.
    Maybe I've known enough old black ladies who play saints but do dirt with out even thinking its dirt but I didn't think she was a joke and it wasn't a tough sell for me.
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    So I get a strong sense of crouching Tiger wire work from the iron fist trailer. Not sure how I feel bout that. I know it's not gonna be gritty style of dd but I was hoping for something that's along the lines of what Donnie yens been doin.
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