The American Government Thread: Closed for 5 days and the World went crazy.

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  • CyntalanCyntalan SRK's Meta-Moderator™ Joined: Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    The confirmation bias is strong today. :coffee:
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  • PreppyPreppy act like you're used to it Joined: Posts: 13,915 admin
    Preppy wrote: »
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    lol - "Sarah Palin, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent Visited the Trump White House to Destroy What Remains of America’s Respectability"

    I appreciate that the Patriots Visit now actually has its own Snopes page:
    * http://www.snopes.com/patriots-white-house-attendance/
    ... this is a pretty random political season. Coming Soon(TM): The Trump(TM) Official Attendance Tracker. Help officially resolve those niggling penis-length competitions! It's kind of funny that they needled him on it, but it's also sad that Trump took the bait. At some point hopefully he'll realize it just doesn't matter.

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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,032
    edited April 21
    Shattered is a fucking gold mine. It's a good thing that the US isn't being run now by a crazy bitch who would shoot any messager who brought her bad news.

    Nah, but it is ran by a crazy bitch launching missles when he reads headlines presented from fox news



    Just want to say a lot of people are making excuses for trump. Saying everything is not his fault. Then we got guys constantly posting his tweets as some sort of holy diatribe.

    I will say this about trump, he is a piece of shit

    But this is good

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/freed-egyptian-american-prisoner-returns-home-following-trump-intervention/2017/04/20/d569fe1e-2608-11e7-bb9d-8cd6118e1409_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_usegypt-1035pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.44503c31b407

    The question is what did trump offer them to sweeten that deal? How much money is egypt getting
  • k4polok4polo Your Lethal Assassin Joined: Posts: 4,631
    edited April 21
    YagamiFire wrote: »
    k4polo wrote: »
    *quickly tries to avoid the question*

    We're done until you can answer the question posed to you. I'm not engaging in your goalpost moving to Trump & the Republican congress when we were talking about what individuals in this thread want (y'know, the deaths of a bunch of poor people).

    At the time, I didn't answer your questions since they seemed pretty stupid to answer. And was on Mobile. But I suppose I will answer them.

    Where the fuck did all the lower income people come from in the last couple years if they were dead after suffering BEFORE OBAMACARE? There were actually lower income people that died before Obamacare but we didn't do that sort of analysis tracking back then when insurance companies contained most of the power. Alot of them survived but are still faced with big debts from before Obamacare since they didn't have the subsidies to cover their expenses. Not all of them died obviously.

    How do they exist? Why weren't they already dead? Answer above answer this question.
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  • YagamiFireYagamiFire Hobby: Resurrection Joined: Posts: 2,841
    edited April 21
    Wow. You really are so unbelievably brainwashed you think just throwing more money at stuff will undoubtedly be beneficial. Holy fuck. And, of course, you have no way to even prove it but you KNOW it.

    You really believe replacing or repealing all-together Obamacare directly makes people responsible for death. What a fucking twisted world-view that you'd never turn back on yourself but instead just project onto some monolithic nanny-state entity entirely divorced from human beings.

    Dude, just find a cult. You don't know a damn thing about how anything works.

    Fuck.

    EDIT: Good god just saw the "when insurance companies contained most of the power". Goddamn. Yeah, Obamacare totally made insurance companies less powerful. The fuck?

    Like I said, you'd never in a million goddamn years turned this line of thinking back on yourself...because if you were honest about it it would destroy you emotionally...and personally...and financially.
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    K4polo doing the bold thing exactly like another poster of this thread
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,032
    edited April 21
    The guy runs a website preaching white pride though

    http://www.npiamerica.org

    Like they book these people knowing what it brings

    I hate college speakers in general because i hate pc speak, but if the opposite is racist fuck heads

    I am not down

    Look free speech is great, just keep god, racism, and pc talk out of my schools
  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,032
    All i am saying is that if you bring in a polarizing figure it leads to this

    But hey i am all for protests

    The president says protesters hinder his right to free speech.

    It sounds really dumb
  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 19,857 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    YagamiFire wrote: »
    This is what these people want out of government and authority

    THIS is what sane people are against.

    These people are transparently power mad authoritarian psychopaths. These demands are lunacy


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  • StarhammerStarhammer The Laughing Man of SRK. Joined: Posts: 19,857 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    shoulda put this one in the other post, but whatever.

    This is a fellow I've been watching of late who tends to make videos about the current political situations, but from a standpoint which tends to focus on immigration and its effects here in America. Open your ears and hit the switch.



    So, it took the PRESIDENT making a freaking EXECUTIVE ORDER to make fuckers hire.....................well, AMERICANS...................IN AMERICA!!!

    God do I hope these things pick up traction and SOON. A brother wants to front that cheddar.

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    Lol, hell no.
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  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Starhammer wrote: »
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    I didn't watch the video but places like Norway are always brought up as an example of "doing it right" and "socialism works". It's funny when the lovers of diversity use a country with an extremely white majority with some of the most strict immigration policies in the civilized world as an example of socialism working. Illegal immigrants are much better off here in the US.

    I'm all about people coming here but you can't have relaxed immigration policies combined with social programs out the ass, especially when everyone isn't paying income taxes like the rest of us.
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    It's always funny to see people calling out the claim Mexico will pay for the wall like they expected Mexico would cut a check or something. Anyone who actually thought THAT was the message being sent is a bit silly.
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    Trump latest tweet is his best yet!

    I am starting to feel bad for his supporters.

    Seriously its like you know this test is coming up and when it about to approach and you realize you didn't study so you want to blame the test and not your own incompetence. He went 0-10 on his first 100 day plan BTW(pic below). The guy has ALL 3 branches too which makes this even more Sad!.

    But seriously member after the first week they said its not been a month, then they said give him 100 days, and now they say give him a year. YOU MEMBER.. I MEMBER!!!

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  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 24,414
    edited April 21
    Reticently wrote: »
    *US cowardly going after WikiLeaks*

    Fucking cowards. So it's come to this... Well, at least we know Assange is still alive.
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  • DoctaMarioDoctaMario Sometimes It Snows In April... Joined: Posts: 3,319
    I'm interested to see what effects Trump's cuts to these various organizations will have. I feel like they'll be bad, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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    Is it possible that any of those budgets were inflated?

    Of course.

    Is the danger of occasionally having to audit the expenses of a prevention program greater than the danger of raising a generation of people mentally impaired from lead poisoning?
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    money is getting out of the pockets of bureaucrats but of course liberals will turn that into problem
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    At first glance a lot that spending may seem redundant, but then you start to realize some of the differences between developed and developing nations.

  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,828
    How is it dooming? The regulations are still in the books, and if people still feel this string about it, they can make private organizations to sue companies for breaking the law.

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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 3,603
    edited April 21
    pedoviejo wrote: »
    How is it dooming? The regulations are still in the books, and if people still feel this string about it, they can make private organizations to sue companies for breaking the law.

    What standing would private citizens have to seek recourse before harm is done? Hence the 'doom' part. Which turns the purpose of the regulations on their ear as their intent is to prevent harm.

    Not to mention that it is far easier to prevent harm through active monitoring than it is to ascertain who the responsible party is after the fact.
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    Reticently wrote: »

    I'll place this card face down and end my turn. Can't wait for the trap to spring.

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  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 21
    Reticently wrote: »
    SNIP
    LOL @ this even being a legal issue in the United States. GTFO. Gonna name my baby ABSOLUTELY HARAM!
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  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 14,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    YagamiFire wrote: »
    Wow. You really are so unbelievably brainwashed you think just throwing more money at stuff will undoubtedly be beneficial. Holy fuck. And, of course, you have no way to even prove it but you KNOW it.
    Here is a perfect example. Look at the amount of money thrown into the roads and public transportation in NY. Now look at the roads and public transportation in NY. People take advantage of public funding because it's easier to get more money out of politicians when it's not their money they're giving away. Everyone thinks that their problems will be solved by sending their money to the government as if they will use the money wisely. How often are people actually held accountable for the enormous amount of wasted money in government? Nobody should be jumping to hand their money over to people who act as if its an unlimited resource with no consequences.

    I'm not sure I follow here. People take advantage of public funding when it's not their money being given away? That's exactly what taxes are though. You pay taxes to provide for public services such as road maintenance and public transportation. Everyone contributes when they pay taxes, but yes, ultimately it's up to local government to budget correctly. My state, California, is awful at budgeting money as well. Roads and highways are in constant need of repair. Budgeting correctly will help, yes, but isn't that just throwing more money into one problem, while taking funds away from another problem? How do you fix this? It doesn't help that in states like California and NY, the population is practically growing faster than public services can keep up. An example would be the BART, a public train transportation system in the bay area, was built several years ago with a certain population growth in mind. Unfortunately, the tech boom in the bay area meant a huge population increase, and the BART is now struggling to maintain itself.
  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 21
    Reticently wrote: »
    Is it possible that any of those budgets were inflated?

    Of course.

    Is the danger of occasionally having to audit the expenses of a prevention program greater than the danger of raising a generation of people mentally impaired from lead poisoning?

    Are these cuts going to increase people's exposure to lead for sure? I honestly don't know, that's why I'm asking. I'll look into it when I have a chance.

    Also are they actually occasionally audited?
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 3,603
    Reticently wrote: »
    Is it possible that any of those budgets were inflated?

    Of course.

    Is the danger of occasionally having to audit the expenses of a prevention program greater than the danger of raising a generation of people mentally impaired from lead poisoning?

    Are these cuts going to increase people's exposure to lead for sure? I honestly don't know, that's why I'm asking. I'll look into it when I have a chance.

    Yeah, actually. There are multiple vectors for lead exposure, of course, and I doubt the increased risk from each vector will be equally apportioned. But at a minimum we can say that after about 100 years lead water mains start to degrade and leach into drinking water, and guess how old most of the public water systems in the US are?

    Plus lead based paint control in buildings older than 1978, and remediation for soil in places exposed due to industrial or automotive exhaust.
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  • TyphlosionTyphlosion Russian Hacker Joined: Posts: 1,078
    YagamiFire wrote: »
    Wow. You really are so unbelievably brainwashed you think just throwing more money at stuff will undoubtedly be beneficial. Holy fuck. And, of course, you have no way to even prove it but you KNOW it.
    Here is a perfect example. Look at the amount of money thrown into the roads and public transportation in NY. Now look at the roads and public transportation in NY. People take advantage of public funding because it's easier to get more money out of politicians when it's not their money they're giving away. Everyone thinks that their problems will be solved by sending their money to the government as if they will use the money wisely. How often are people actually held accountable for the enormous amount of wasted money in government? Nobody should be jumping to hand their money over to people who act as if its an unlimited resource with no consequences.

    I'm not sure I follow here. People take advantage of public funding when it's not their money being given away? That's exactly what taxes are though. You pay taxes to provide for public services such as road maintenance and public transportation. Everyone contributes when they pay taxes, but yes, ultimately it's up to local government to budget correctly. My state, California, is awful at budgeting money as well. Roads and highways are in constant need of repair. Budgeting correctly will help, yes, but isn't that just throwing more money into one problem, while taking funds away from another problem? How do you fix this? It doesn't help that in states like California and NY, the population is practically growing faster than public services can keep up. An example would be the BART, a public train transportation system in the bay area, was built several years ago with a certain population growth in mind. Unfortunately, the tech boom in the bay area meant a huge population increase, and the BART is now struggling to maintain itself.

    Clearly the solution is to privatize everything, make every road a toll road, every single aspect of transportation controlled by few companies, even though it'll be much more expensive in the long run for consumers it'll be more efficient and we can hold these companies accountable by wagging our fingers at them and bailing them out because they would be such an integral part of the local economy that them shutting down would absolutely destroy businesses and livelihoods there. Also if no companies want to invest in something that might be a loss for them such as public transportation then we should have never funded it in the first place. Funding things that can't turn a profit is anti-american and anybody that can't get their own form of transportation to work just needs to git gud. The founding fathers would be disappointed if we did anything but extol our unabashed love for unfettered capitalism. Ben Franklin would be absolutely ashamed at the prospect of providing things for people that wasn't profitable, like libraries and education, this is why PBS and NPR need to burn in the wellspring of dark flames that is hell or as I like to call it "socialism".
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    What the fuck...........

    That will teach me to unhide your posts smh.
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  • ParryAllParryAll Dangerous Posts Joined: Posts: 3,311
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    What the fuck...........

    That will teach me to unhide your posts smh.

    Lmao.

    Well at least I didn't do the Ultimate Warrior one.



    They're wrestling promos dude. If you're not a fan of old school WWF you won't get it.

    If people find it funny I'll leave it up if people don't get it I'll delete it. You gotta read the promos using the wrestlers voice.
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  • Captain RyuCaptain Ryu Scoot Magee Joined: Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 21
    I'm not sure I follow here. People take advantage of public funding when it's not their money being given away? That's exactly what taxes are though. You pay taxes to provide for public services such as road maintenance and public transportation.

    What I mean is it's a lot easier for politicians to recklessly spend our tax dollars. It's a lot easier to obtain a raise from a politician than it is from someone actually trying to run a business. Prices for government services as well as road work and etc are extremely inflated in part due to hand outs in return for political support. We have construction companies with local government contracts assigning way more people than actually needed for certain jobs. On top of that they're taking way longer than they should. I'm sorry but I cringe every time I see some fat fuck dragging a shovel down the road at a snails pace and a group of guys just hanging around while all being paid a high hourly wage from our tax dollars.

    Another factor to wasted tax dollars is baseline budgeting. It gives incentive to spend an entire budget even if it's not needed in order to not receive a cut in funding.
    Everyone contributes when they pay taxes, but yes, ultimately it's up to local government to budget correctly. My state, California, is awful at budgeting money as well. Roads and highways are in constant need of repair. Budgeting correctly will help, yes, but isn't that just throwing more money into one problem, while taking funds away from another problem?

    Budgeting correctly does not just mean throwing more money into something. It also includes factoring in wasteful spending and etc. There's obviously something wrong if the costs to maintain go up dramatically every year.
    How do you fix this? It doesn't help that in states like California and NY, the population is practically growing faster than public services can keep up. An example would be the BART, a public train transportation system in the bay area, was built several years ago with a certain population growth in mind. Unfortunately, the tech boom in the bay area meant a huge population increase, and the BART is now struggling to maintain itself.

    But if there's more people there's more tax revenues. If there's a legitimate reason to build a bigger train for a bigger population that's fine. My issue is the money that is wasted for no reason.
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  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 14,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I'm not sure I follow here. People take advantage of public funding when it's not their money being given away? That's exactly what taxes are though. You pay taxes to provide for public services such as road maintenance and public transportation.

    What I mean is it's a lot easier for politicians to recklessly spend our tax dollars. It's a lot easier to obtain a raise from a politician than it is from someone actually trying to run a business. Prices for government services as well as road work and etc are extremely inflated in part due to hand outs in return for political support. We have construction companies with local government contracts assigning way more people than actually needed for certain jobs. On top of that they're taking way longer than they should.

    Another factor to wasted tax dollars is baseline budgeting. It gives incentive to spend an entire budget even if it's not needed in order to not receive a cut in funding.
    Everyone contributes when they pay taxes, but yes, ultimately it's up to local government to budget correctly. My state, California, is awful at budgeting money as well. Roads and highways are in constant need of repair. Budgeting correctly will help, yes, but isn't that just throwing more money into one problem, while taking funds away from another problem?

    Budgeting correctly does not just mean throwing more money into something. It also includes factoring in wasteful spending and etc. There's obviously something wrong if the costs to maintain go up dramatically every year.
    How do you fix this? It doesn't help that in states like California and NY, the population is practically growing faster than public services can keep up. An example would be the BART, a public train transportation system in the bay area, was built several years ago with a certain population growth in mind. Unfortunately, the tech boom in the bay area meant a huge population increase, and the BART is now struggling to maintain itself.

    But if there's more people there's more tax revenues. If there's a legitimate reason to build a bigger train for a bigger population that's fine. My issue is the money that is wasted for no reason.

    If there's more people, it means more traffic, which means more wear, which means more maintenance required. More people doesn't mean more money to fix the BART. The point is that the population is growing faster than the system can keep up. It's not a simple "lol build a bigger train". I agree that wasteful spending and improper budgeting are issues, but I just don't know how government fixes that since they haven't been able to do it in forever. Is privatizing everything the solution? I certainly don't think it is for reasons Typhlosion posted, even if it was hyperbole.
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