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  • .Guy..Guy. STUPID SEXY ROCKET RACCOON! Joined: Posts: 1,997
    As for earlier comments, I've always said since the start that Marvel is fair. It's insane and easy to lose sure, but you have access to all the tools everyone else does. If you're great at the game you'll use those tools and beat people using them too. If that weren't the case, no one would ever be 'better', and competitive gaming would be a shitfest of random prizes and promotions.

    I never got into Skullgirls because of personal reasons (I never seem to play anything that isn't a male animal) but I still liked the gameplay and Samson-I mean Filia was fun to use. Calling it a fair Marvel is a stretch if you agree with my notion.

    RNG is the only thing I'd feel is unfair tbh. Only a handful of fighters have that in competitive play and most of the time anyone who uses RNG is bad.
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  • .Guy..Guy. STUPID SEXY ROCKET RACCOON! Joined: Posts: 1,997
    edited August 7
    PVL_93_RU wrote: »

    See, I agree with you on everything here (except the character passes part simply because I have no desire to buy any chars I know I won't touch).

    But if someone told me years ago that videogaming and content would go in this direction, I would've said 'yeah, I believe it'. Not only was it not a new concept, but it was already starting with the introduction of dlc years ago to begin with.

    As much as I hate it, I still buy it. I can be honest about that because if I called Capcom an asshole for what they're doing and out them for it, I'd be lying to myself thinking this is 'right' when it's the way the world is. When these things start being so expensive that even lower class can't handle it? That when I'll give up and just sit around in sadness.

    This also brings up that no matter what you know is on the disc, what the devs give you is what they give you. You know what you're paying for when you buy it, they show you exactly what you get. Anything more is extra.

    It's bullshit, but life is bullshit. Fuck life.
    Some overdo it, but Capcom really, really needs to stop giving people ammunition.

    ...you right though. Cuck Fapcom.
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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 9,964
    At the very least SFxT's DLC fiasco's only saving grace was that the pack costed like 15$ (instead of 30 for Character Pass), and you got 12 characters at once (instead of 6 overtime)

    Still a shitty decision to have characters already in the game and still have the arrogance to ask money for basically an unlock key

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  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Giving your waifu the pipeu Joined: Posts: 6,777
    edited August 7
    The SFXT DLC characters were $20. The funny thing is that price remains the same 5 yrs later.

    https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/street-fighter-x-tekken-additional-characters-pack-(12-chars)/cid=UP0102-BLUS30722_00-00307SYSEXPCHA02

    Link is acting weird, but it's still up on PSN. Gotta copy/paste the whole thing to see it.

    Once you had hackers showing off all of the characters right after release, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Capcom's strategy for it in MVCI just seemed to be presented wrong. I know they're all about the "games as a service" thing nowadays, but they literally presented Sigma as DLC in their first story trailer. I couldn't even believe it. Once you see characters like Wesker, Vergil, Akuma, Phoenix Wright, and Viewtiful Joe skipped over, you begin to realize that they're likely holding those characters back for future DLC. That's why people are quick to get pissed.

    With the way they were talking, pumping out a lot of characters seems to be what they intend to do. If 6 characters are planned for 2017, I wonder if they're going to plan more for 2018. Then again, we see how hard it is for SFV to get through 6 characters in a yr, so you never know.
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  • OceanMachineOceanMachine ROCKET LAUNCHER GOD Joined: Posts: 9,006
    I feel there's a couple passionate people at Capcom, then a bunch of idiots that lost any clue of what marketing is. For fighting games at least, since RE7 launch was good and they still do well with their Monster Hunter games.
    It almost feels like they do the bare minimum to keep their dominant place in the FG market. Which is sad because in the meanwhile many others are doing thing that can potentially outclass them.
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 55,282 mod
    edited August 7
    flicky wrote: »
    The good thing about this game is that nobody has thoroughly criticised the system mechanics, there's been a few little concerns like projectile reflection, but there's been nothing major like X-Factor damage and MvC3 Sentinel, people seem happy with things like damage scaling. Almost every criticism has been aesthetic and I kind of think that's a good thing, I mean this isn't some street grade rock, this is pure crack cocaine straight from the pot, additcts gonna be dusting off their MAS sticks for this one.
    There have been criticisms of various gameplay systems, but they always get dismissed with "Let's wait and see for the final version," or "It's MAHVEL so it's okay!"
    If you argue an issue with a mechanic in MAHVEL you already know where it's gonna go. It's not going to be "oh yeah that should definitely change" after every criticism. Healthy criticism of the gameplay is fine, just don't expect people to see your way 100 percent after dealing with what they dealt with in Marvel 3.
    What constitutes "healthy criticism," though? I haven't seen a single criticism of the mechanics that you haven't shot down or dismissed. Even when people thought a character should be more crazy and more "Mahvel" you still buried your head in the sand and said everything's fine.

    Shot down and dismissed aren't the words i would use. I just strongly disagree. Just have my view that I feel will pan out. Just like you had your views about KI and I had no problem with. Just explained why i didn't agree with them. Your views didn't bother me and I appreciated them even though I mostly didn't agree with them

    I've had plenty of discussions with players about games where I think one way and they think the other way. Nothing wrong with that and I have no problem with people feeling that Ryu needs a bunch of stuff that he's never really had in Marvel. Especially when Marvel 3 already proved that he can get a bunch of flashy stuff and still be mediocre. I feel he can work within this game without too much fluff.

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  • PVL_93_RUPVL_93_RU When's Dragon Ball? Joined: Posts: 9,964
    edited August 7
    I feel there's a couple passionate people at Capcom, then a bunch of idiots that lost any clue of what marketing is. For fighting games at least, since RE7 launch was good and they still do well with their Monster Hunter games.
    It almost feels like they do the bare minimum to keep their dominant place in the FG market. Which is sad because in the meanwhile many others are doing thing that can potentially outclass them.

    The board of directors (and their utterly shitty business decisions) is what completely fucks over both SFV and MVCI. Both games could use another year worth of development time and polish. Instead SFV got pushed out early for the sake of eSports and MVCI is getting pushed out early to serve as an advertisement platform for Marvel movies
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  • UnsafeUnsafe Joined: Posts: 13
    Did anyone do input lag testing on the story demo or at any of the events with the vs demo? Just curious.
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    I see. Man I wonder what PC is gonna be like.
  • Evil CanadianEvil Canadian T.Hawk is a good guy Joined: Posts: 7,246
    Yup that's him. He was already troll marked before I became a mod. I'll let who marked him speak for themselves when they are available

    Trolls make me so mad :(
  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Giving your waifu the pipeu Joined: Posts: 6,777
    If this game doesn't have 2P rematch, I'm going to rage-piss on myself. I do not want to see thumbs-up 2.0.
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  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 696
    flicky wrote: »
    The good thing about this game is that nobody has thoroughly criticised the system mechanics, there's been a few little concerns like projectile reflection, but there's been nothing major like X-Factor damage and MvC3 Sentinel, people seem happy with things like damage scaling. Almost every criticism has been aesthetic and I kind of think that's a good thing, I mean this isn't some street grade rock, this is pure crack cocaine straight from the pot, additcts gonna be dusting off their MAS sticks for this one.

    Can tell you never read my posts...

    I actually think the advanced guard reflecting is good. It can help a lone character combat being chipped to death by projectiles. But then again you never want to be blocking in a Marvel game. But if blocking becomes a thing in this game among all the other changes I dislike about Infinite (which include system mechanic changes, delayering of the games depth and the over reduction of mechanics that added depth in the series, as well as the reduced damaged and the removal of a lot of mechanics from the current installment), I will place my drop a cinder block on my copy of the game on G.P.
    And I was fine with Sentinel and X Factor Damage... it was Zero, MorriDoom and Vergil that I wanted to be balanced out.

    .....

    Dumb question, but the counter switch mechanic... only helps bring a partner in during a combo? So in other words, if you have only one remaining character, you can't break the combo?

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  • Doctrine DarkDoctrine Dark Giving your waifu the pipeu Joined: Posts: 6,777
    The Counter Switch can bring them in even if you aren't in the middle of eating a combo. I've seen some do it while they were falling in the air.

    But yes, if you're down to your last character, you can't use it.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,045 mod
    The Counter Switch can bring them in even if you aren't in the middle of eating a combo. I've seen some do it while they were falling in the air.

    But yes, if you're down to your last character, you can't use it.

    I think that falling bit still counts as them in some form of hitstun, so it's still in the combo.
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  • willselesswillseless Joined: Posts: 2,313
    The SFXT DLC characters were $20. The funny thing is that price remains the same 5 yrs later.

    https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/street-fighter-x-tekken-additional-characters-pack-(12-chars)/cid=UP0102-BLUS30722_00-00307SYSEXPCHA02

    Link is acting weird, but it's still up on PSN. Gotta copy/paste the whole thing to see it.

    Once you had hackers showing off all of the characters right after release, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Capcom's strategy for it in MVCI just seemed to be presented wrong. I know they're all about the "games as a service" thing nowadays, but they literally presented Sigma as DLC in their first story trailer. I couldn't even believe it. Once you see characters like Wesker, Vergil, Akuma, Phoenix Wright, and Viewtiful Joe skipped over, you begin to realize that they're likely holding those characters back for future DLC. That's why people are quick to get pissed.

    With the way they were talking, pumping out a lot of characters seems to be what they intend to do. If 6 characters are planned for 2017, I wonder if they're going to plan more for 2018. Then again, we see how hard it is for SFV to get through 6 characters in a yr, so you never know.

    At least MVC is known for having characters from different franchises, so I won't give a single fuck for dlc characters that aren't from Breath of Fire, unlike other games where you didn't have any relation with a character before and can just buy them for their tools, design and etc.
  • ZonkZonk Jackpot! Joined: Posts: 81
    Every game on UE4 seems to have at least 6 frames of input delay. Harada claimed UE4 adds 3-4 frames. PC with VSync off could at best be 5 frames. I assume it will be the same for DBFZ, as it's also on UE4.
    :hp:
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 55,282 mod
    If this game doesn't have 2P rematch, I'm going to rage-piss on myself. I do not want to see thumbs-up 2.0.

    There will be no saltier thumbs than Marvel thumbs. I have to see somebody struggle to put their thumb up because of the dumb shit they just went through lol

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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,045 mod
    willseless wrote: »
    The SFXT DLC characters were $20. The funny thing is that price remains the same 5 yrs later.

    https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/street-fighter-x-tekken-additional-characters-pack-(12-chars)/cid=UP0102-BLUS30722_00-00307SYSEXPCHA02

    Link is acting weird, but it's still up on PSN. Gotta copy/paste the whole thing to see it.

    Once you had hackers showing off all of the characters right after release, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Capcom's strategy for it in MVCI just seemed to be presented wrong. I know they're all about the "games as a service" thing nowadays, but they literally presented Sigma as DLC in their first story trailer. I couldn't even believe it. Once you see characters like Wesker, Vergil, Akuma, Phoenix Wright, and Viewtiful Joe skipped over, you begin to realize that they're likely holding those characters back for future DLC. That's why people are quick to get pissed.

    With the way they were talking, pumping out a lot of characters seems to be what they intend to do. If 6 characters are planned for 2017, I wonder if they're going to plan more for 2018. Then again, we see how hard it is for SFV to get through 6 characters in a yr, so you never know.

    At least MVC is known for having characters from different franchises, so I won't give a single fuck for dlc characters that aren't from Breath of Fire, unlike other games where you didn't have any relation with a character before and can just buy them for their tools, design and etc.

    Some have brought up that other games, admittedly non-fighters, seem to have less delay. We'll see when DBFZ comes out.
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  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 5,469
    https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017/aug/07/reflecting-projectiles-pushblock-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite-easier-it-seems-video-shows-timing-isnt-very-strict/

    Hmm. Projectile reflecting is actually easy, it turns out.

    Looks like d3v was talking out of his ass. As usual.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,045 mod
    PSYCH0J0SH wrote: »
    https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017/aug/07/reflecting-projectiles-pushblock-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite-easier-it-seems-video-shows-timing-isnt-very-strict/

    Hmm. Projectile reflecting is actually easy, it turns out.

    Looks like d3v was talking out of his ass. As usual.

    Yeah, because I got that information from other players who've had more hands on time with the game than me I was definitely talking out of my ass.

    It's a game in development, stuff can change. What may have been true in other builds may not necessarily be so in another one.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
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  • PSYCH0J0SHPSYCH0J0SH Joined: Posts: 5,469
    d3v wrote: »
    PSYCH0J0SH wrote: »
    https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017/aug/07/reflecting-projectiles-pushblock-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite-easier-it-seems-video-shows-timing-isnt-very-strict/

    Hmm. Projectile reflecting is actually easy, it turns out.

    Looks like d3v was talking out of his ass. As usual.

    Yeah, because I got that information from other players who've had more hands on time with the game than me I was definitely talking out of my ass.

    It's a game in development, stuff can change. What may have been true in other builds may not necessarily be so in another one.

    Here's a couple of things that won't change.

    1. The game being shit.
    2. Your virginity.
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    0 to asshole in 2 posts.
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    I disagree and don't like your opinion, so you haven't had sex. Yup, another Psycho conversation.

    That's what happens when the representative from 4chan has the floor.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,045 mod
    I usually try not to step in unless people actually start complaining to me, but going straight to insults in 2 posts, without provocation, is something that we can't let slide.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 55,282 mod
    He's behind bars so often that it might as well just be his standard av.


    Little more than one month before the badness starts.

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    d3v wrote: »
    I usually try not to step in unless people actually start complaining to me, but going straight to insults in 2 posts, without provocation, is something that we can't let slide.

    Lol is that not how SRK rolls? Or does it only matter if you're not shitting on Capcpom and it's affiliates?

    I know everyone's ban happy because Capcpom ain't got it anymore, but y'all could at least fire back before reaching for Mjolnir.
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  • NoChartNoChart Some say it's vanity, some say it's charm. Joined: Posts: 892
    po pimpus wrote: »
    Lol is that not how SRK rolls? Or does it only matter if you're not shitting on Capcpom and it's affiliates?

    I know everyone's ban happy because Capcpom ain't got it anymore, but y'all could at least fire back before reaching for Mjolnir.

    Tuck your hate-boner back into your pants, Po. There's no defending Psych0J0sh's bullshit, and there are plenty of dissenting opinions on this forum that don't resort to his garbage-water spewing to make a point.
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    I wonder what the Soul Gem is gonna do. I am assuming reviving a teammate which could be crazy. Fuuuuck Capcom reveal it already!!
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    interesting video about mvci and the plans for adding it to the cpt by the left behind dude. probably wasn't supposed to be uploaded.
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  • quicksquicks Joined: Posts: 3,137
    Definitely should not have been uploaded.

    Interesting fact it cost 300,000 for some costumes and some stages????

    But it's to be expected, we'll probably see it ,
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,045 mod
    Numbers are probably based on CPT numbers.

    Some of the stuff regarding how much it costs to sponsor are in line with what I know for CPT.
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  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 696
    Spending nearly $1.5 mil to make just under $700k profit?

    I know some brothers that could flip for 100-150% returns. Capcom be dealing with some weed shotters. They need Dame Dash, some Mexicans, Tommy, Ghost and Tasha handling their finances.
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    Any sort of profit is good enough for fighting games as esports. There's a ton of stuff that we can't really do (because no one in the FGC would want to do it) such as team or city buy in for millions, etc. like what other companies are doing.
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
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  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 696
    I was being a fool- there are people spending $200 on pre-orders, Capcom saved costs by reusing assets from Umvc3... they're virtually in profit within a month. Dlcs and tournaments are just increasing their profit.

    It was interesting to see how the business side of things worked in the video. Had no idea the kind of resources and licensing, and strategy even, that went into a game and tournaments.
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  • digos25digos25 PIMBA PIMBA PIMBA Joined: Posts: 530
    Does anyone know if Thanos projectil can be reflected?
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,045 mod
    digos25 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Thanos projectil can be reflected?

    Best to assume it can.
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